Any feelings about falcon in this exchange?
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
not knowing SoA makes this worse tbh
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
Just a quick question with regards to mischops and math. Have you been factoring in that nighkills are delayed? Does that matter at all in determining how many mistakes we’re allowed to make?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:00 pmI don't know why that's despair. That's a very subjective assessment, so I'll just ask a related but different question:
- Would it be wise for me, as a town member, to keep pummeling away at what I have been doing without reconsidering my approach with no dead mafia and only one mischop still available?
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
no protection on falcon here (since I just got burned on protecting falcon for no good reason) but I'd lean town there
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
Maybe it doesn't have to be this way.
@Son of Anarch would you be able to provide a link to a single past town game and past mafia game from other places you've played?
I rarely make this token request, but now it might actually help.
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I see little strategic benefit in pushing you as a suspect at this moment, but I don’t think mafia falcon would require a strategic benefit beyond appearing town at this very moment.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
I have been treating the poisons as regular kills by the numbers. Let me consider that now though since you do represent an extra vote today.
11 vs. 4 to start
sig dead, Lime Coke dead, SPF dead
8 vs. 4 currently
If we miss today, plus Sloonei dead, we enter Night 3 at 6 vs. 4
Poison
Start Day 4 at 6 vs. 4 (traditionally Mimlo, but now Limlo because of the dying civilian).
I don't think we gain a day because of poison. I could be missing something.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
I told you your solve was wrong based on the falcon/limecoke limecoke/Dolby interactions, but you promptly ignored me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:12 pm So clearly my solve was wrong. I did nothing in the night phase except distance myself from this game. This is my first 0 for 2 start in a while, and I am going to take that as a signal that I need to step back and re-engage this game in some manner other than what I have been doing. I am going to be less of a noisy butt, but I will still be here working through it and chatting.
I'm open to just about any theories out there. Sloonei being poisoned is kind of a bizarre gift that spares the game mass tinfoil and also maximizes his 48-hour utility for us.
I will sheep anything you put out though because I have no clout.
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I responded directly to you and didn't ignore a thing. I did tell you that your view of "how things work" is wrong, as a holistic representation of how Mafia is played on this site when you disparage it for absolutely no reason.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:09 pm I told you your solve was wrong based on the falcon/limecoke limecoke/Dolby interactions, but you promptly ignored me.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
we can sleep and go to 5v4JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:09 pmI have been treating the poisons as regular kills by the numbers. Let me consider that now though since you do represent an extra vote today.
11 vs. 4 to start
sig dead, Lime Coke dead, SPF dead
8 vs. 4 currently
If we miss today, plus Sloonei dead, we enter Night 3 at 6 vs. 4
Poison
Start Day 4 at 6 vs. 4 (traditionally Mimlo, but now Limlo because of the dying civilian).
I don't think we gain a day because of poison. I could be missing something.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:11 pmI responded directly to you and didn't ignore a thing. I did tell you that your view of "how things work" is wrong, as a holistic representation of how Mafia is played on this site when you disparage it for absolutely no reason.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:09 pm I told you your solve was wrong based on the falcon/limecoke limecoke/Dolby interactions, but you promptly ignored me.
I will sheep anything you put out though because I have no clout.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
That sounds right. I think. It'd be 5 vs. 4 with town already dying. Hit mafia and town dies, go to night phase 4 vs. 3. Later-rinse-repeat down to 2 vs. 1, only one player survives. I'm talking to myself.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
so like ok can we clear either of the d1 zero posters
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
I'm betting G is close to always a wolf here barring a spurt of life
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
Oh dolby also probably a wolf
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
I claimed fruit vendor in my second post for anyone who's interested in figuring out pr reading
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No immediate protest to either of those assertions.
I think they've both sounded tone-town at points, but the standard is higher than that now.
I think they've both sounded tone-town at points, but the standard is higher than that now.
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oh third post
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:24 pm @Marmot how do you feel about the flood of confident town reads you have received in this game?
I probably deserve it, but it doesn't mean much til we flip wolves.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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Where'd my name go?
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
I'd be curious to hear the solve that makes this group of 4 town.
Are you voicing a suspicion of falcon here?
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d1
Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:28 pmBest way I can describe it is that Tony seems like a chump and his setup talk was somethin' I also was thinkin' about before the game and I just found your entrance kinda wittySloonei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:20 pmCan you articulate said vibes in a manner similar to what you did for Jay and spf?Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:13 pmYep. Good vibes man, good vibes.Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:10 pmYou say that you like “everyone” on this page, but only comment on 2 of the 4. Do tony and I have good traits?Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:07 pm Oh and by the way, I was kinda thinkin' about this earlier.
Isn't it better for the fruit vendor to claim right away? Basically an IC, yeah? Could have me (the watcher) go on 'em too. I know it's delayed mechanics and all, but still useful as long as I'm not killed.
And for everyone's efforts on this page, I'm gonna slap a small townread on all of you good folk right away. I'm warning ya though, my mind changes easily, but gettin' good vibes from this crowd. I like Jimmy's idea too, about Stayposi being naturally on guard about his early buddy-buddy with her. He seems like a good player, so I think her being naturally curious about all of that is pretty nice as far as ground zero reads go.
I smell a jib here.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:36 am Man this game ain't spicy enough. You all are being way too careful. So ya know what? I'm gonna toss out a spicy take here and get a temp check:
I think Lime Coke's entrance to the thread was relatively safe in a wolf-y way. Man's dropped a townread on Sloonei after Jimmy already said he thought Sloonei was town and then half his explanation, as that nice lass StayPosi pointed out, was about somethin' to do with what Sloonei did after he made the read.
Oh yeah and as far as TSP goes. Well, I think I might be pickin' up what Sloonei is puttin' down here. Originally I was thinking in my head that TSP agreeing and changing his mind was kinda villagery, but now after Sloonei revealed the meta was fake, I'm almost wonderin' if TSP changed his mind to not try to outright disagree with the meta, but discredit it in a way.
Anyways, that's all I got for now. I'm pretty tired and my eyes are drooping... I'll probably still be stalkin' the thread because I'm doing some raids, but won't bother writing more until the morning.
Quick take here. Lime Coke is town and TSP is the current claimed fruit vendor, and these are SoA's first tow voiced suspicions.
This suspicion of TSP is interesting given that SoA had previously claimed watcher per Tony's suggestion.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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If SoA is scum, his Day 1 is incredibly well-orchestrated and hard to see as being anything but town, but here's another nitpick.
This post is interesting because he asks Sloonei, not if sig is town, but if he and sig are both town. Very specific choice of words here that I think is intentional.
Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:36 pm Sloonei, that post got me thinkin' and now I'm kinda wonderin'... Are you sayin' you think this dialogue between me and sig could be town/town?
This post is interesting because he asks Sloonei, not if sig is town, but if he and sig are both town. Very specific choice of words here that I think is intentional.
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I kinda want SoA to talk about someone other than falcon. As far as I can tell, that's his only scumread at this point.
The only other scumreads I can find this game are sig, Lime Coke, and Sloonei. And well, you know the rest.
The only other scumreads I can find this game are sig, Lime Coke, and Sloonei. And well, you know the rest.
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It's Day 3 and I haven't made a readlist yet. It probably matches a lot of other people's tbh.
TSP
JJJ
Dizzy
ilario
NAA
Johanna
G-Man
falcon
Dolby
SoA
This solve doesn't feel amazing though for reasons that I can't put my finger on.
TSP
JJJ
Dizzy
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NAA
Johanna
G-Man
falcon
Dolby
SoA
This solve doesn't feel amazing though for reasons that I can't put my finger on.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
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Actually I can put my finger on it I think. Everyone yellow and above has put consistent effort since the beginning of the game, where as everyone in the orange (exception of perhaps Dolby), has had noticeable gaps in activitiy.
My eyes are drooping, I'm off to bed and will try again tomorrer
My eyes are drooping, I'm off to bed and will try again tomorrer
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
I think I dreamt that Jay was poisoned, so I came in thinking Jay was poisoned despite not having seen the thread yet, and only now do I realise it was a dream. Spoopy.
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LMAODyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:13 pm Actually, I'll just reveal now. Spf was targeted by G-man AND Johanna (of course lol). So one of these are scum and one is the sleepwalker, I'm guessing
Hardclaiming sleepwalker.
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I'll take it!Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:14 pmBest role use should go to G-Man or Johanna for sleepwalking to my targetJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:13 pm Best Role Use vote currently in flux. Stay tuned folks. Drama will unfold soon.
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Where my mind went.Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:20 pmJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:19 pm Maybe there's somehow insight in the fact that mafia didn't believe Tony's claim. I dunno what insight that'd be, but here's a post.
Because Tony is mafia.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
I think as stated yesterday, that JJJ and Sloonei are always the same alignment. Therefore, JJJ town.
Why is TSP alive is my biggest question. I'm not chopping an uncontested claim but still. I briefly voted G-Man after Dizzy's claim but I'm on No Vote as I try to sort out my thoughts.
I think in my first catch up post I already indicated SoA as a most likely wolf in the D1 towncore and D2 did not alleviate those suspicions so I am very happy to go there.
I always want to see more of Dolby, I stil feel like I haven't seen enough from him but I might need to bow to the consensus that he should be chopped.
I am very flip floppy on Falcon. He often feels performative but he also has many posts that ring honest.
I do not know G-Man.
I feel like J's PoE might contain up to three wolves rather than all four, but I really can't say who the fourth would be and who in the PoE would not be a wolf I think there's reasonable doubt on all of them to scum read them but also there is very little certainty.
Finally, I'm off
Why is TSP alive is my biggest question. I'm not chopping an uncontested claim but still. I briefly voted G-Man after Dizzy's claim but I'm on No Vote as I try to sort out my thoughts.
I think in my first catch up post I already indicated SoA as a most likely wolf in the D1 towncore and D2 did not alleviate those suspicions so I am very happy to go there.
I always want to see more of Dolby, I stil feel like I haven't seen enough from him but I might need to bow to the consensus that he should be chopped.
I am very flip floppy on Falcon. He often feels performative but he also has many posts that ring honest.
I do not know G-Man.
I feel like J's PoE might contain up to three wolves rather than all four, but I really can't say who the fourth would be and who in the PoE would not be a wolf I think there's reasonable doubt on all of them to scum read them but also there is very little certainty.
Finally, I'm off
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
Anyway, I'm voting [VOTE:
SonofAnarch] aubergine for now.
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Hmmmm I think gman is the most likely to be a hit fmpov
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And then afterwards I’d probably explore into falcon/Dolby
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A part of me would hate losing to NAA if he’s mafia, but I think he’s probably just town
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The fact that the current state of gamesolving here on The Syndicate requires an equation of X posts + Y interactions, I accept that I will never leave the POE, probably in any game. There are plenty of reasons that my content has been what it’s been this game (lackluster for the most part), but it’s an equation of (Thread Volume + New Faces) x RL^10. I realize that “RL is busy” is basically part of my meta now, which is sad that those who are familiar with me already know to lower their expectations of me until they can’t because POE, but that’s where we are. I’m not sharing my RL component until post-game because it’s external and doing so just sounds like a lame attempt at asking for sympathy and space. Because the game started at 11-4, there’s room for neither sympathy nor space after the D1 mischop.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:48 pm @Dolby
@falcon45ca
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For those of you that is/are town-aligned, our ability to win this game is likely contingent upon your desire to win. I don't want this to sound like PRESSURE, and it's certainly not intended as hostile. You've all already done things to contribute. What I mean is that if there are mafia members outside this group, they've already established a foothold in this thread that is going to be extremely difficult to break without your intervention (specifically yours). I'm sure it's irritating to be continually stuck within a POE pool every time you click on the thread, but now is the best and perhaps last chance to turn that around. After two mischops to start the game, I think almost every member of the town faction is going to be open-minded to a new view of the game. I am absolutely listening to everything you have to say and will be stoked every time I see a new post pop up from each of you.
Some or all of you might find me suspicious. That's okay. It's a natural thing to expect under the circumstances. I will try my best to follow my own advice here and give you the best chance of finding my own innocence.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
There are 11 players in the game
1 is me
1 is dead
2 are PRs
1 has the most clout
2 are in a 50/50
That leaves, by my count 4 players with 3 mafia. The game seems straight forward from here. Not easy, but straight forward.
1 is me
1 is dead
2 are PRs
1 has the most clout
2 are in a 50/50
That leaves, by my count 4 players with 3 mafia. The game seems straight forward from here. Not easy, but straight forward.
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Based on what I just said, this gives Ilario 75% solve, the fact that he doesn't have it means he's mafia.
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This post makes little sense given the above.
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Still 3/5 better than 1/2, strategy remains the same with me and JJJ concensus town.
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I'm taking Marmot as my town pick, so everyone else is required to do the same because there aren't enough votes to kill without me.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d3
What do you think of the potential for ilario and Dyslexicon to both be mafia?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:28 amBased on what I just said, this gives Ilario 75% solve, the fact that he doesn't have it means he's mafia.
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we can't stop here...this is bat country!
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There's some interesting language here...you pummeling away, the wording there makes it sound as tho it's fatiguing for you, defeating.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:00 pmI don't know why that's despair. That's a very subjective assessment, so I'll just ask a related but different question:
- Would it be wise for me, as a town member, to keep pummeling away at what I have been doing without reconsidering my approach with no dead mafia and only one mischop still available?
You've had quite a bit of success playing Maf, you're a very talented player. Tell me, do you throw out your playbook cuz' of 2 mislynches?
This post is also subtly seeded with the despair I mentioned, and it's antithetical to your town play IMO
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I'm going to be afk most of the day, feel free to self-resolve any questions you might have via my vote.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:13 amWhat do you think of the potential for ilario and Dyslexicon to both be mafia?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:28 amBased on what I just said, this gives Ilario 75% solve, the fact that he doesn't have it means he's mafia.
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