Ted Lasso Mafia - game over!

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

BTW I think Bereft is mafia but I refuse to push anyone this game so

[robyn]

town (unordered)
wigly
dm
bereft
cape
rondo

rest

How the fuck am I not town lol

how'd you arrive at michelle towny asf to michelle wolf in like 10 minutes

[robyn]

BTW I think Bereft is mafia but I refuse to push anyone this game so

he's town

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

town (unordered)
wigly
dm
bereft
cape
rondo

rest

How the fuck am I not town lol

how'd you arrive at michelle towny asf to michelle wolf in like 10 minutes

That should be pretty easy to figure out with some critical thinking and me saying I'm confused about 300 times

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

BTW I think Bereft is mafia but I refuse to push anyone this game so

he's town

Press X

[robyn]

town (unordered)
wigly
dm
bereft
cape
rondo

rest

How the fuck am I not town lol

how'd you arrive at michelle towny asf to michelle wolf in like 10 minutes

That should be pretty easy to figure out with some critical thinking and me saying I'm confused about 300 times

it's not, besides bereft what townreads and scumreads do you have

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

town (unordered)
wigly
dm
bereft
cape
rondo

rest

How the fuck am I not town lol

how'd you arrive at michelle towny asf to michelle wolf in like 10 minutes

That should be pretty easy to figure out with some critical thinking and me saying I'm confused about 300 times

it's not, besides bereft what townreads and scumreads do you have

Well I have a readslist most of it didn't change except for the very fucking obvious reason I realized michelle was a wolf

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Gave*

[robyn]

I have laid out reasons why these six players are town:

robyn, Bereft, DrWilgy, DarlingMonroe, RondoDimBuckle, and Cape90

If I am wrong about any of those, my entire process tumbles. I'd be grateful to hear of any disagreement from anyone. If those town reads are correct, then it leaves the POE of seven names I mentioned earlier. That's one more than a game-winning POE pool would allow for (six players). On that basis, I'd also love to hear everyone's top town read in this pile:

ts account, Scotty, S~V~S, LoRab, Michelle, Thunal, Abigail

full disclosure i'm outright sheeping jjj today

[robyn]

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

[robyn]

GTH reads on my POE pool:

Abigail - mafia
LoRab - mafia
Michelle - mafia
Scotty - town
S~V~S - mafia
Thunal - town
ts account - mafia

One mafia too many, but that's okay with me. Also I am probably far too biased by my own analytic workload to be able to achieve proper "GTH reads" at this point, but whatever I AM bored.

[Scotty]

Its

[Scotty]

Shit it cut me off

I was gonna say it’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood

I’m not around much until a bit later tomorrow but I just wanna say- good job on Michelle. I have a lot to say in regards to the end of D1 now that we know Michelle’s alignment. D2 is helpful too, in that I think we had some absolute bus drivers

But for now:
Rondo and Thunal didn’t think I had a stroke, and that in and of itself is suspect

[robyn]

Shit it cut me off

I was gonna say it’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood

I’m not around much until a bit later tomorrow but I just wanna say- good job on Michelle. I have a lot to say in regards to the end of D1 now that we know Michelle’s alignment. D2 is helpful too, in that I think we had some absolute bus drivers

But for now:
Rondo and Thunal didn’t think I had a stroke, and that in and of itself is suspect

rondo did, thunal played eod weirdly and her general play around michelle was strange

[robyn]

@Scotty what are your reads, and welcome back

[RondoDimBuckle]

town (unordered)
wigly
dm
bereft
cape
rondo

rest

How the fuck am I not town lol

how'd you arrive at michelle towny asf to michelle wolf in like 10 minutes

That should be pretty easy to figure out with some critical thinking and me saying I'm confused about 300 times

Robyn, I trust Cape and Bereft are town because of you. Trust neon is town because of me. I have two strong reasons and will say neither

[RondoDimBuckle]

I have laid out reasons why these six players are town:

robyn, Bereft, DrWilgy, DarlingMonroe, RondoDimBuckle, and Cape90

If I am wrong about any of those, my entire process tumbles. I'd be grateful to hear of any disagreement from anyone. If those town reads are correct, then it leaves the POE of seven names I mentioned earlier. That's one more than a game-winning POE pool would allow for (six players). On that basis, I'd also love to hear everyone's top town read in this pile:

ts account, Scotty, S~V~S, LoRab, Michelle, Thunal, Abigail

full disclosure i'm outright sheeping jjj today

Scotty can go but I dont think Scotty is the one we are looking for

[robyn]

town (unordered)
wigly
dm
bereft
cape
rondo

rest

How the fuck am I not town lol

how'd you arrive at michelle towny asf to michelle wolf in like 10 minutes

That should be pretty easy to figure out with some critical thinking and me saying I'm confused about 300 times

Robyn, I trust Cape and Bereft are town because of you. Trust neon is town because of me. I have two strong reasons and will say neither

i didn't come into the thread with a chop abbie quota, i just have no clue about her alignment, etc etc you and cape and i think bereft all think she's town and i've never been able to read her. so yeah, i trust

[RondoDimBuckle]

Shit it cut me off

I was gonna say it’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood

I’m not around much until a bit later tomorrow but I just wanna say- good job on Michelle. I have a lot to say in regards to the end of D1 now that we know Michelle’s alignment. D2 is helpful too, in that I think we had some absolute bus drivers

But for now:
Rondo and Thunal didn’t think I had a stroke, and that in and of itself is suspect

this is bullshit, I read the setup. Its 80% likely they shoot their shot night 1 to draw focus away from or try to shield a wolf

[RondoDimBuckle]

Shit it cut me off

I was gonna say it’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood

I’m not around much until a bit later tomorrow but I just wanna say- good job on Michelle. I have a lot to say in regards to the end of D1 now that we know Michelle’s alignment. D2 is helpful too, in that I think we had some absolute bus drivers

But for now:
Rondo and Thunal didn’t think I had a stroke, and that in and of itself is suspect

rondo did, thunal played eod weirdly and her general play around michelle was strange

1 out of 4 is redeeming right?

[Bereft]

I mean, neon's claim of why Mich is town may be verifiable, and in the case that it is verifiable, you can simply, ya know, take it.

[robyn]

Shit it cut me off

I was gonna say it’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood

I’m not around much until a bit later tomorrow but I just wanna say- good job on Michelle. I have a lot to say in regards to the end of D1 now that we know Michelle’s alignment. D2 is helpful too, in that I think we had some absolute bus drivers

But for now:
Rondo and Thunal didn’t think I had a stroke, and that in and of itself is suspect

rondo did, thunal played eod weirdly and her general play around michelle was strange

1 out of 4 is redeeming right?

yeah, i'd tinfoil in your position too, it's just i was having the good game

thunal doesn't die today either though

[ts account]

https://tenor.com/view/ted-lasso-1x01-hey-gif-20619787

[robyn]

lol, hello ts account, do you have an MU account?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I mean, neon's claim of why Mich is town may be verifiable, and in the case that it is verifiable, you can simply, ya know, take it.

town?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Shit it cut me off

I was gonna say it’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood

I’m not around much until a bit later tomorrow but I just wanna say- good job on Michelle. I have a lot to say in regards to the end of D1 now that we know Michelle’s alignment. D2 is helpful too, in that I think we had some absolute bus drivers

But for now:
Rondo and Thunal didn’t think I had a stroke, and that in and of itself is suspect

rondo did, thunal played eod weirdly and her general play around michelle was strange

1 out of 4 is redeeming right?

yeah, i'd tinfoil in your position too, it's just i was having the good game

thunal doesn't die today either though

why not?

[RondoDimBuckle]

https://tenor.com/view/ted-lasso-1x01-hey-gif-20619787

[VOTE: TS Account ] aubergine

what a lack luster entrance after avoiding the two day phases so far. I had thought TS would join with something worth reading. Killing now.

[ts account]

there are 4 whole pages of posts with "ts account" in them
yall wild

someone fill me in, I see JJJ got nkd and one of their most recent posts has a POE in it. Are we following that, generally?

[ts account]

lol, hello ts account, do you have an MU account?

yeah I'm Mikey

[robyn]

there are 4 whole pages of posts with "ts account" in them
yall wild

someone fill me in, I see JJJ got nkd and one of their most recent posts has a POE in it. Are we following that, generally?

we are

[robyn]

lol, hello ts account, do you have an MU account?

yeah I'm Mikey

mikey who

[robyn]

Shit it cut me off

I was gonna say it’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood

I’m not around much until a bit later tomorrow but I just wanna say- good job on Michelle. I have a lot to say in regards to the end of D1 now that we know Michelle’s alignment. D2 is helpful too, in that I think we had some absolute bus drivers

But for now:
Rondo and Thunal didn’t think I had a stroke, and that in and of itself is suspect

rondo did, thunal played eod weirdly and her general play around michelle was strange

1 out of 4 is redeeming right?

yeah, i'd tinfoil in your position too, it's just i was having the good game

thunal doesn't die today either though

why not?

thunal is either cop with a green on michelle or scum

[ts account]

lol, hello ts account, do you have an MU account?

yeah I'm Mikey

mikey who

last I checked there's only one mikey
I've phased out of mafia for a while tho, signed up here out of sheer boredom and wondered how some of the old folks like JJJ, Sloonei, Macdougall, etc were doing

[RondoDimBuckle]

Shit it cut me off

I was gonna say it’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood

I’m not around much until a bit later tomorrow but I just wanna say- good job on Michelle. I have a lot to say in regards to the end of D1 now that we know Michelle’s alignment. D2 is helpful too, in that I think we had some absolute bus drivers

But for now:
Rondo and Thunal didn’t think I had a stroke, and that in and of itself is suspect

rondo did, thunal played eod weirdly and her general play around michelle was strange

1 out of 4 is redeeming right?

yeah, i'd tinfoil in your position too, it's just i was having the good game

thunal doesn't die today either though

why not?

thunal is either cop with a green on michelle or scum

actually, now my neon read makes less sense. I thought she was town without it but you're right I forgot about the flip. recind my neon shield but I still think she is town.

[RondoDimBuckle]

there are 4 whole pages of posts with "ts account" in them
yall wild

someone fill me in, I see JJJ got nkd and one of their most recent posts has a POE in it. Are we following that, generally?

Sure, the game begins at page 1 and continues from there. Michelle is wolf. Seanzie, Loncon, JJJ are town. Go for it

[ts account]

iirc, the iso meta here is big, so if you wanted to know who I am for the sake of that, here's a link to my profile https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/me ... -NSM-Mikey

this is old, of course, and my meta as of late has shifted a bit toward tryharding as wolf and skimming as town

[robyn]

iirc, the iso meta here is big, so if you wanted to know who I am for the sake of that, here's a link to my profile https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/me ... -NSM-Mikey

this is old, of course, and my meta as of late has shifted a bit toward tryharding as wolf and skimming as town

ah, i’ve seen you play before

anyway ur p much consensus scum

[ts account]

iirc, the iso meta here is big, so if you wanted to know who I am for the sake of that, here's a link to my profile https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/me ... -NSM-Mikey

this is old, of course, and my meta as of late has shifted a bit toward tryharding as wolf and skimming as town

ah, i’ve seen you play before

anyway ur p much consensus scum

that's pretty silly considering I haven't even been here

[Bereft]

I though someone said on reliable authority that ts account was a ladd alt lolololololol.

But yeah I may or may not have played with NSM Mikey eons ago.

[robyn]

iirc, the iso meta here is big, so if you wanted to know who I am for the sake of that, here's a link to my profile https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/me ... -NSM-Mikey

this is old, of course, and my meta as of late has shifted a bit toward tryharding as wolf and skimming as town

ah, i’ve seen you play before

anyway ur p much consensus scum

that's pretty silly considering I haven't even been here

towncore is just that good

[Scotty]

BTW I think Bereft is mafia but I refuse to push anyone this game so

maybe.

I think my worldview has shifted with an actual flip and am not sure if pursuing the big talkers of D2 is correct.

I haven’t read the last 3 hours of EOD2 but I think I caught you saying you were really adamant on Michelle over Lorab at the last moment. Where did that come from?

I’ll iso you later but I would like your answer to that

[robyn]

I though someone said on reliable authority that ts account was a ladd alt lolololololol.

But yeah I may or may not have played with NSM Mikey eons ago.

i was trolling and was spectating a ladd game from almost 2 years ago, literally hit me after the fact that ladd was hydra’ing with michelle. and i was sorta baiting a nk

[ts account]

iirc, the iso meta here is big, so if you wanted to know who I am for the sake of that, here's a link to my profile https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/me ... -NSM-Mikey

this is old, of course, and my meta as of late has shifted a bit toward tryharding as wolf and skimming as town

ah, i’ve seen you play before

anyway ur p much consensus scum

that's pretty silly considering I haven't even been here

towncore is just that good

apparently not
I would trust JJJ's towncore since they're good at mafia and confirmed town
that should leave me in the poe, not "consensus scum" lol

[ts account]

what does "BTSC" mean?

[robyn]

means a private discord chat, or a private chat in general, where the info isn’t in the thread

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I... kinda probs just vote Scotty today though I think the gimmick posting was wolf on wolf fr

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Night night

[ts account]

means a private discord chat, or a private chat in general, where the info isn’t in the thread

hm I've only ever heard it called OOC/OOTC

weird

[Scotty]

Spoiler: show

Looking at LoRab voters: (Hopefully stuff formats correctly)

Bereft:

I think Bereft's read on Scotty/LoRab is actually kind of towny and the world he presented with them and the strong language he used to make his argument #2496/#2517. All this despite his resistance to the Michelle wagon which to me kind of read as scummy #2476/#2477. But like even that is kinda towny on virtue of being this sort of stream of consciousness type of way. I like his confidence on his Rondo townread also.
Sidenote: I was getting kind of worried about Rondo just powerwolfing based on the pushes that he's done earlier, but have felt better about Rondo as he started talking more throughout the day, like for me, my thinking on Rondo went from "he's town" to "eh, like he could just be trying to eliminate towns through pushing whatever" back to "he's town" in short.
I kind of think #2342 was weak on a gut level.
Also Bereft saying the current wagons are bad but then suggesting ts account as a top wolf was funny to me (#2335) with the linked 2342, which is part of the reason why I have my issues with Bereft to be completely honest. Though I will say I don't mind the notion that Scotty could be mafia.
I think beyond this point, I do not really get like a whole lot out of Bereft's day 2, but I am in the zone of thinking he believes what he says which to me is a good look even with my said qualms there.

DarlingMonroe:

Despite seemingly also suspecting Michelle, DarlingMonroe was on LoRab. DM was also voting/tinfoiling Bereft which I find interesting... probably slightly towny. I randomly like #2191 even though I am also left a tad confused by it, but it does show a confidence in their own words. #2167 sort of pinged me when it came to Bereft, like in the sort of way where DarlingMonroe was pushing Bereft on the virtue that he is a strong player. On top of that if his thought processes throughout the game come across in the same exact way as Thunal's, wouldn't this be a cause for concern for DarlingMonroe?
#2166 I am also slightly concerned about because is seems like DM is calling Princess Abigail town only because she didn't ping them as much as the other four DM listed, which isn't really a real read on Princess Abigail.

OKAY I HAVE A POSSIBLY SILLY QUESTION
In #2127 DarlingMonroe says "And I understand LoRab is busy IRL..." right? So is this a scumslip? I mean you could maybe assume as much from them not showing up to the thread, but they haven't completely said outright that they were busy IRL directly so maybe they got the hear from LoRab from... somewhere else? Dun dun dun.
IDK if I actually believe that.
Uh.
Anyways...
#2103 points out all the no voters that were not voting day 2 in a... lateish stage. Also if S~V~S is actually mafia, DarlingMonroe is ALWAYS just town for #849.
Thinking lightly town just off last game when they were town were basically not voted off because of their PR claim, despite honestly not being all that towny (this is from the perspective of me being mafia though). Also I saw more OMGUS going on with her in her previous towngame which idk if that's like a reliable thing.

SIDENOTE: #2151 from S~V~S seems sketchy to me, though they voted Michelle.

Scotty:

The completely cursed slot himself, making hard to dechipher posts. Kinda found what he was trying to communicate from what I deciphered to be just kind of in the zone of "blendy okayness" IE: #2178 him questioning Thunal here I believe.
I'm guessing the curse is a thing that could be for anything, I think if Michelle flipped villager, this is exactly where I think mafia would be, but now with the flip, I am not so sure. Like I am sure scotty could maybe talk them out of sus better then Michelle, but it could also mean that Scotty is a mafia PR more powerful then Michelle, like maybe a Rupert...
Scotty did start day 2 by voting Michelle.
Going back to day 1 #1046 pinged me, especially if niche=michelle idk. Like mafia would talk to their partners in that way in a freak outty type of way. I find it rather sloppy also that Scotty asked about why people thought Seanzie was a hit, then to tell people to go on Seanzie because he trusted the wagon composition there more then Michelle wagon (comprised of Rondo/Neon/JJJ/DrWilgy, who ALL VOTED MICHELLE DAY 2 AS WELL) (PS: Thanks Rondo for that spreadsheet thing). ALSO #738 this aside is actually really scummy because it goes against his snap decision that "oh kill Seanzie because I like wagon comp on there" thing that he talked about, like ew.
Do not feel so great about #893 just in retrospect and the halphazard Michelle townread he slapped at the end here. Had LC and DM as mafia at the time, insert bad WIFOMy read that Scotty doesn't kill LC because of this.
I feel like if Scotty is mafia, I kinda feel like they might have misused the curse thing because it feels more right to let Scotty talk himself out of being sussed as mafia and to give Michelle the cursed thing? I cannot help but to have that little voice in my head that says that, but I do find Scotty suspicious otherwise for this and already said day 1 reasons. I just hope he can actually communicate today and maybe point to important points he made day 2 or whatever that he wants to be clear, if this is an all game thing, oh boy.

Thunal33:

Thunal kept defending Michelle... interestingly, but I don't think it's outing for reasons. Mostly with how much detail Thunal was putting into continuously talking about Michelle.
Thunal talked about how town is controlling the thread even though they have also talked about not liking the wagons being like 2/2/2 at the time.
I believe the talking that was going on with Princess Abigail is not w/w with Abigail. #2015 is kinda a lame defense of Michelle if you actually read what Michelle is saying there, which I have my doubts that Thunal really did there...
I like Thunal in the #1737 chain of confidence here in terms of their robyn read.
Overall I could see this as wolf, but I am not super convinced for reasons. Like I see Abigail's readslist, then subsequent vote on Michelle and just thinking of those 2 things, like I would have to check back and see what Abigail did in that span of time in developing her read on Michelle if that happened but it does raise concerns just because I don't remember things.

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Which kinda transitions into I think some funny business might be happening with the wagons. As I pointed out earlier, day 1 had 4 people on the Michelle wagon, and those SAME 4 people are also there day 2, Rondo almost wasn't. Which just seems oddly consistent to me. And LoRab is certainly not towny which makes me question things. I certainly like the names on Michelle technically more then LoRab, my only decent TR on there is Bereft, and those aren't as strong as robyn/JJJ/Rondo on the Michelle wagon so that could also be a sign. Uh yeah wanted to check Abigail specifically next because if there was a bus there, it's like I would likely look there first or S~V~S on like an off chance it's DrWilgy (i feel like i have paid the least attention to Wilgy to be honest so it would probably be fine to check here after Abigail even though my gut says I TR him). This is some food for thought, I am busy tonight, finals week is so much fun!

Holy anal sis wall bat man !

Another day another Cape suspicion

RE: me - yesterday was almost a wash for me, and I have to agree with you, because even I felt blendy in the most unblendy way possible. It was truly *exhausting* to post, and it definitely reflected in my contributions. As a voyeur, not only was I behind, but even if people were able to get through my bullshit, it wasn’t worth the effort to try and clarify bits and pieces. JJJ only got maybe a fraction of what I was saying so my posts were more frustration than solving, so me pointing to specific points today is probably more PTSD because I don’t even want to look at that shit again.

RE: my Seanzie vote- I don’t remember pitching people to vote Seanzie, I just hopped on in the last bit with a split decision to vote him because you/robyn/JJJ were voting there. DESPITE the fact that I definitely was advocating against it to (Jjj?) earlier. It was more of a unifying vote as opposed to stray, ya feel?

Here’s a summary of my Day 2 in my head:
I was settled on Michelle as the counter wagon for almost the entire day, then I started getting cold feett with the big talkers basically controlling the thread and bereft was the one that just seemed like he was on the outside, keeping his vote open, being *there* but I couldn’t pinpoint him as leading any charges. It was the most blendy high posting job of this garm, and a part of me was thinking both Lorab and Michelle were just t/t.

I was able to come in the last 10 min to see a movement on Lorab/michelle. I don’t even know what the count was, but it seemed like there was some squirrelly shit happening with others trying to launch away from Michelle. And I picked wrong! Again!

I came into today thinking Lorax is basically cleared. Is she not? If not, why?

I wanna start cleaning people,and her wagon forming against Michele screams patsy (yes I know I voted there)

[ts account]

I never jump to hasty conclusions off of toan reads from a single post but

wowee