RED vs. BLUE- Ivanka & Jared BTSC

[G-Man]

This is a BTSC thread for Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner. If any players besides these two can see this thread, then, well, the cat is out of the bag I guess.

[insertnamehere]

Hello, hello, hello.

[G-Man]

Jared hasn't read his PM yet. I hope 24 hours will be enough for Day 0. We'll see.

[leetic]

Hello

[insertnamehere]

leeeetic! Glad to see you hubby.

So, do you have a lot of stuff going on right now? If there ever was a game that needed an AoT style badass super active Leetic, this'd be the one.

There are so many savvy pro players in this thing it makes my head spin.

Any intial reads you maybe don't want to share with the class?

@G-Man, we can discuss our powers and whatnot, right?

[G-Man]

Yes, the two of you can discuss your powers. Please let me know if either of you have questions. If you see me online, chances are I will check this thread once or twice to see if any questions have been asked.

[leetic]

I'll try to be as active as possible, but since school is starting tomorrow I don't think I'll have AoT levela of activity.

[insertnamehere]

dude, you need to get in the thread and explain your posts. They almost lynched both of us for it.

[insertnamehere]

How far back is Leetic on the replacement queue?

He hasn't posted for five days, and seems utterly occupied by school.

[G-Man]

Leetic has not requested to be replaced. If he's is absent and misses a second vote, I will see if anyone else is available.

[insertnamehere]

[insertnamehere]

heyyyy golden

[Golden]

Hey dude. So, here we go... good to know I can trust you.

I really think Jay is good. He would be playing the baddie game of his life to have me fooled.

Sorry about the PoE stuff... I'll explain here in more detail but suffice to say that on occasion I like to play hardheaded and oversimplify my thought process in the thread so that people don't know the full extent of my thinking.

What are you thinking? I think MM, epi and Wilgy are the most likely candidates, but I also really don't like the way Sloonei takes out scotty and then goes completely silent.

I feel good about Quin.

[Golden]

Also, apologies for not ruling you out in the thread and now saying slight town. I don't want to out you as my btsc partner, and I don't think an abrupt turn is a good look. Ideally, we could be two of the last three left in this game and guarantee a town win, although I don't know quite how the math works around there being a final three or a final four.

[Golden]

Question, how do you feel about the marmot?

[insertnamehere]

I'm not sure how much you've read of Day 3, but I essentially tried to lead a lynch against 3J. He lead a bus against Rey.

Rey flipped civ.

Nothing has changed my opinion on 3J. I think he's bad, bad, bad. I don't agree with your reason for civ reading him, and I think he's deliberately trying to buddy up to you solely because you both have similar controversial playstyles. At this point, every post that the guy makes sets my skin a-crawlin'. I don't think he's been even relatively right or civ friendly once in this entire game. Yes, I realize that he contributes reads, and ISO's, and posts more than I could ever dream of, but that seems to be 3J's MO regardless of playstyle.

I also realize that nothing has changed in regards toward your read of 3J.

Aaaand there's a good chance Day 4 will be LYLO. If we want to win, we need to lynch a baddie.

So we're at a bit of an impasse here.

I doubt that you're going to budge on your read of the game.

I doubt that I'm going to budge on my read of the game.

I doubt that either of us knowing the other is civ is going to impact either of our reads on the game.

yeahhhhhh

[insertnamehere]

Does knowing that I've been civ this entire time make his Day 1 vote any more suspicious to you?

[Golden]

INH, you are wrong about Jay. Dead wrong. He is not bad. There is no way in hell he is bad.

[Golden]

At this point I'm kind of up for lynching Jay just to be over this though. It's ridiculous and myopic.

[insertnamehere]

INH, you are wrong about Jay. Dead wrong. He is not bad. There is no way in hell he is bad.

Golden, you are wrong about Jay. Dead wrong. He is not civ. There is no way in hell he is civ.

[Golden]

What are you doing inh? Why are you calling out my playstyle in the thread? I don't understand.

[Golden]

Does knowing that I've been civ this entire time make his Day 1 vote any more suspicious to you?

Why would it? I don't expect townies to be correct...

I think the thing is, that I know Jay well enough to know that just because he is loud and puts lots of effort in doesn't mean he is correct. When I'm trying to figure out who is good and bad, I don't tend to be influenced by how correct they are.

Jay went out of his way to look into you and then convince ME I was wrong to think you were bad, later in the game just before I died. Why do you think he did that?

[Golden]

Can you give me some insight into what you are going for?

I'm trying here... I'm not going to go with you on Jay, but I don't think we need to be fighting each other so hard in the thread.

[Golden]

I get the sense that you have decided to stop talking to me...

I hope I can trust you.

[insertnamehere]

I didn't intentionally stop talking to you, I just took a step back from the game in general. Things were getting unreasonably tense in the game, and it was just something that I wasn't particularly enjoying and I don't think anyone else was either.

I tried to intentionally distance us in the thread. I don't want a target on our backs when it comes to NK's, or at least a larger one than there already is. I thought the best way to do that was to emphasize our opposing gameplay "styles".

[Golden]

I think it's going to work out ok. No way any sensible person will nk you at this point because I think only my vouching was keeping you alive. Possibly me, but if I just make it through the night we have half the players left and can finish this sucker off.

Sorry for frustrating you.

[insertnamehere]

So, here we are.

It's us, 3J, and MM.

One of them is the Serial Killer.

One of them is Donald Trump.

Yes, Donald's in the game. In fact, I protected him a couple nights back.

Here's my role:

You are IVANKA TRUMP, a member of the Trump family. You are one of Donald Trump's most trusted children and advisers. You're strong bond to your family gives you the strength to protect them. Each night, you may protect one member of the Trump Family. This will keep them safe from nightkills on the night you send their name in. PM your protection choice by the end of the night phase, specifying which Trump family member (not a player name) that you wish to protect. You cannot protect anyone whose last name is not Trump, so you cannot protect your husband.

I protected myself last night. Stupid move, I know, but I was worried that the SK would see us as a Power Couple last night, and attempt to NK the more annoying one. :P

I asked G-Man whether or not he would tell me if a name I submitted was an actual role. He said yes. I attempted to protect Donald Night 3 to test this theory. Yup. He's here.

It looks very likely that the SK's objective is to kill Trump, and that's how he satisfies his win condition. It's certainly what the host posts have been hinting at.

We'll probably decide this lynch. We better pick the right one.

[Golden]

I really don't think it can be Jay. Imagine, his whole goal this game is survival... so why doesn't he NK you much sooner? Or at least attempt to? Why are you still alive? It's kind of a miracle that he is still alive.

But, since it's d-day, it is time I heard you on this... so do you have reasons I shouldn't be looking at this so simply?