Interactions between Glorfindel and
Scotty 2.0 / sprityo
Glorfindel:
Glorfindel wrote:Apologies for being late to this party, my friends. FWIW, I can see the logic behind your case here Sloonei and whilst I've not considered LoRab seriously as a baddie before, I think your case here holds more water than that against Elohcin. I find the collapse in the wagon on Sprityo to be intriguing - as ambivalent as I feel towards him, I'd not have touched that wagon with a 10 foot barge pole...
Glorfindel states in confident language that he wouldn't have taken part in a sprityo lynch on Day 3.
Glorfindel wrote:In my view, I think this analysis suggests to me that Scotty is clearly suspicious and not simply for the performance of his predecessor. I think his indiscriminate criticism of my voting record looks suspicious on that basis alone and he seems to have some difficulty making a logical case against it (with good reason). I also find Sprityo's early interactions with Jay mildly suspicious as do I judge his continual sniping at one of my strongest Town reads all game (Sloonei). His reads appear to me to have been limited and (apart from Sloonei) without a lot of structured arguments to support them. Having just gone through all that, I'm prepared to place my vote on Scotty pending other developments.
This post comes from a larger
post in which Glorfindel cast suspicion on Scotty 2.0. The highlighted assertion is a bit different from the previous post where he suggested he wouldn't have touched a sprityo wagon with a 10 foot pole.
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sprityo:
Never mentioned Glorfindel.
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Scotty 2.0:
Scotty wrote:I don't like Glorfindel's voting record.
Day 1, early Mac vote. Disappears later and lets the wind of time dictate the lynch.
Day 2, no vote.
Day 3, he makes the second to last vote in the poll and votes for LoRab to tie the lynch. Motel room brings down the hammer on Elo. (Good look for MR)
Day 4, (which i just read) he says he broke the tie, but I can't tell. This one I'm not as bothered about, because he had expressed suspicion of INH prior to the vote. This EoD makes me twitch slightly because we DONT have a lynch and so it's hard to analyze if anyone was protecting someone with votes. I'd like to believe that Wilgy is still bad. But Glorf could be an accomplice.
I don't know Glorf's baddie game all that well. I could be looking for truffles in the wrong forest.
Critical of Glorfindel's voting record on Day 5. I think his reasoning is understandable. On some level I also like that he elected to investigate voting records specifically soon after rejoining the game, since that's much easier content to judge at face value when one hasn't gotten caught up with a game.
Scotty wrote:Dom: GOOD
DrWilgy: BAD
Epignosis 2.0: GOOD
Glorfindel: BAD
Indiglo: BAD
insertnamehere: GOOD
JaggedJimmyJay: GOOD
LoRab: GOOD
MacDougall: GOOD
motel room: GOOD
Quin: BAD
Sloonei: BAD
I feel like Glorf could go either way for me, and I'm still operating under the assumption that INH saved himself.
Quin is literally a gut read based on dribblings of post she he has made, and I have no evidence to think him bad besides that.
Glorfindel is a bad GTH read, but with a caveat. It might be meaningful that he felt the need to say this at all, particularly given that he had made the specific effort prior to raise suspicion about his voting record.
Scotty wrote:Scotty wrote:Scotty wrote:hey guys, /9446 ;94 my lack of knvvsmt i
Kill me
anyway, sorry for my lack of involvement. I've had to rely on wifi here in Canada and it's not the nicest thing to rely on.
I need to make a vote, but unfortunately haven't been reading this phase.
I might vote for Dom or Glorf. Who wants it less?
End of Day 6. He expressed a willingness to lynch either Glorfindel or Dom.
Scotty wrote:Voting Dom. I could very well vote Glorf too. So many changed votes makes me wonder if Glorf is actually bad, not around, and his teammates are attempting to stir the pot away from him.
Who is stirring the pot away from him?
Scotty wrote:Rip motel room.
Nice post about my voting patterns, Glorf. Looks a lot like what I'd do if I were bad (and had time to do so).
I feel best about voting Glorf, even though he has a small train now. I wait to see who, if anyone, comes to his aid.
Glorf
I don't like this highlighted thing. Scotty is saying his Glorfindel vote is his preferred vote
despite the small train, and then he flips his hand of cards face up to negate his proposed strategy by saying exactly what he is doing. This seems pointless and thus possibly fake.
Scotty wrote:JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Any other general thoughts emerging from the EOD chaos and motel room's demise, Scotty?
That I made a huge mistake in Wilgy.
That my pick for baddies right now are Dom, Glorf and Sloon.
That Sloon is currently voting Glorf makes him look better. At first I thought maybe Wilgy (max) may have been in BTSC with Sloon, but I'm not so sure he would have voted Wilgy at all if that were the case.
I'm actually feeling pretty confident Wilgy didn't have BTSC with anyone alive.
He was willing to judge Sloonei based upon his vote for Glorfindel. Perhaps premature.
Scotty wrote:I don't suspect Epi right now due to my trust of predecessor, but I wouldn't put it past him to put his trust in LoRab, knowing she is good.
Is LoRab good? I dunno- I'd like to think so. Her biggest question mark of the game of course came from her vote for INH after we tempeorarily deduced he could be Silvertonghe.
I still believe INH to be Silvertongue.
I think dom is stirring shit this game, and I would as easily vote him over Glorf if votes piled there.
You're our best weapon right now in that the mafia are not killing you, so you're like Florida in the 2000 election
Vague accusation of Dom in the midst of a generally anti-Glorfindel atmosphere.
Scotty wrote:Glorfindel wrote:JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Glorfindel my friend I am going to keep spamming these questions until they are answered.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Glorfindel, I still need answers to these questions:
1. Are you bad?
2. Are you a member of a team that killed anyone in this group: MovingPictures07, MacDougall, motel room?
I'm going to adjust the first question.
1. Are you a member of the team in this Mafia game called the Skags?
Please still answer both.
My dear friend, I'm sorry - I hadn't seen these questions when you'd posted them originally but I saw that you had asked them earlier today. I am trying to work through all of the things that I've been asked and will answer your questions in due course. I trust that I can impose upon your patience for that?
What even kind of answer is this?
It's like the judge asking the jury after a lengthy murder trial whether the defendant is guilty or not guilty and the foreman triumphantly responding, "I had a great breakfast today!"
I don't understand why someone as thoughtful and well spoken as Glorf (and he is) wouldn't be keen in answering a yes or no question but instead answer in an offhanded remark telling JJJ to take a number
I think at this point Scotty had picked up on why I was asking Glorfindel those questions, so I am not inclined to give him bonus points (or deduct points) for this post.
It's a lot of the same after that. Scotty has become progressively more anti-Glorfindel.
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Conclusion:
There's one moment I thought looked nice, and one that I thought looked bad. I think he's a compatible team mate at least and I don't struggle to envision them being in full on distance mode right now -- particularly given Glorfindel's big case against him which was inconsistent with his own prior stated read.