Escape From Russia [GAME OVER]

[Arete]

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[112]

It's the main reason that, despite my own thoughts, I am not voting 112.

why would you trust my read over your own?

A) I'm not reading (much),

2) I think you know 112 better than I do, and

d) I think mafia is comfortable with a 112 lynch. Therefore I am not. I want shit shaken up.

(Whoever gets the holiday film reference gets a prize)

i don’t know 112 at all. this is our first game together

Interesting.

Btw, I have played with scum!112 in a turbo before, but turbos don't count so I won't include that meta.

I don't think I've ever been scum in a turbo and only recall playing in one. You might be thinking of .113

[Ash Lael]

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Don’t really like it, but we need to coalesce and his reasons for attacking Arete are awful, so okay.

[112]

Can we chop Wilgy?

[Hally]

Can we chop Wilgy?

remind me why again?

[112]

Can we chop Wilgy?

remind me why again?

viewtopic.php?f=100&t=1953&p=676083#p676083

[Epignosis]

like, I have trouble seeing how a reasonable native speaker of English* would interpret my sentence like that

and it kinda feels like you picked out a random line from my post and completely ignored my actual argument so that you could vote me and have a reason other than OMGUS

because the reason you're presenting does not make sense

*I don't know if you're a native English speaker, if you're not then I'm sorry and I'm not trying to insult you

Native English speaker?

I'll do you one better.

I'm an English teacher.

Ok, so

Why is Arete a wolf?

The mafia is extremely comfortable with the present state of affairs.

....so your argument is that because in your opinion the Mafia is comfortable with the present state of affairs, I'm a wolf for writing a post saying 'the Mafia is comfortable with the present state of affairs, let's try to change the state of affairs to a different one'?

I said the same thing. I have to pick someone to change the state of affairs.

I picked you.

[Epignosis]

I knew votes would come together on me. Mind the reasons why so that after I'm gone you can make better decisions.

I keep hearing a lot of "this person is good, this person is good."

Nobody is bad then, heh?

Well, two people are, and it isn't me. So once I am relieved of my duties here as a warm body civilian voter, I hope you will reconsider folks like Arete and Ash who "Don't really like it" but they're comfortable with it and can't be bothered to find something they like more.

[Hally]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

[Epignosis]

like, I have trouble seeing how a reasonable native speaker of English* would interpret my sentence like that

and it kinda feels like you picked out a random line from my post and completely ignored my actual argument so that you could vote me and have a reason other than OMGUS

because the reason you're presenting does not make sense

*I don't know if you're a native English speaker, if you're not then I'm sorry and I'm not trying to insult you

Native English speaker?

I'll do you one better.

I'm an English teacher.

then presumably you should have been able to use context clues to figure out that my sentence was narrating my present state of mind rather than implying Wilgy's alignment would be different depending on when we flipped him!

What you meant was, "Right now, I don't think Wilgy is a hit." I knew that.

That isn't what your statement said.

Who is Tony's partner and why?

right now I'm leaning you as one of them, as you probably guessed from the fact that I'm voting you

And this is your best evidence:

Epi isn't a current wagon and is getting a pass for no clear reason so that could maybe be a hit? but I'm not, like, confident of that

That isn't me being a teammate of Tony.

You are mafia.

[Arete]

like, I have trouble seeing how a reasonable native speaker of English* would interpret my sentence like that

and it kinda feels like you picked out a random line from my post and completely ignored my actual argument so that you could vote me and have a reason other than OMGUS

because the reason you're presenting does not make sense

*I don't know if you're a native English speaker, if you're not then I'm sorry and I'm not trying to insult you

Native English speaker?

I'll do you one better.

I'm an English teacher.

Ok, so

Why is Arete a wolf?

The mafia is extremely comfortable with the present state of affairs.

....so your argument is that because in your opinion the Mafia is comfortable with the present state of affairs, I'm a wolf for writing a post saying 'the Mafia is comfortable with the present state of affairs, let's try to change the state of affairs to a different one'?

I said the same thing. I have to pick someone to change the state of affairs.

I picked you.

okay

so this question is going to sound super loaded

but why did you only try to Change The State Of Affairs after I was like 'hm, mafia seems comfortable with this state of affairs, what if we voted Epi instead of Wilgy,' like, if you thought Mafia were comfortable with the state of affairs in the thread then why did you not bring that up sooner

[Ash Lael]

I knew votes would come together on me. Mind the reasons why so that after I'm gone you can make better decisions.

I keep hearing a lot of "this person is good, this person is good."

Nobody is bad then, heh?

Well, two people are, and it isn't me. So once I am relieved of my duties here as a warm body civilian voter, I hope you will reconsider folks like Arete and Ash who "Don't really like it" but they're comfortable with it and can't be bothered to find something they like more.

I have someone I like more, it’s 112. I’ve been arguing for that lynch.

But it’s 20 min to deadline and the lead wagon had 2 votes. We have to come together and that means someone has to compromise.

[Ash Lael]

Oh and now the Epi wagon is dying.

[Ash Lael]

This game is stupid.

[G-Man]

Hey folks, we're going to do that thing again where I lock the thread after the poll closes.

If you have admin rights that can bypass that, kindly don't post once the poll deadline passes.

[mention]112[/mention]
[mention]Arete[/mention]
[mention]Ash Lael[/mention]
[mention]DrWilgy[/mention]
[mention]Epignosis[/mention]
[mention]Hally[/mention]
[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention]
[mention]Poison Chan[/mention]

[Epignosis]

like, I have trouble seeing how a reasonable native speaker of English* would interpret my sentence like that

and it kinda feels like you picked out a random line from my post and completely ignored my actual argument so that you could vote me and have a reason other than OMGUS

because the reason you're presenting does not make sense

*I don't know if you're a native English speaker, if you're not then I'm sorry and I'm not trying to insult you

Native English speaker?

I'll do you one better.

I'm an English teacher.

Ok, so

Why is Arete a wolf?

The mafia is extremely comfortable with the present state of affairs.

....so your argument is that because in your opinion the Mafia is comfortable with the present state of affairs, I'm a wolf for writing a post saying 'the Mafia is comfortable with the present state of affairs, let's try to change the state of affairs to a different one'?

I said the same thing. I have to pick someone to change the state of affairs.

I picked you.

okay

so this question is going to sound super loaded

but why did you only try to Change The State Of Affairs after I was like 'hm, mafia seems comfortable with this state of affairs, what if we voted Epi instead of Wilgy,' like, if you thought Mafia were comfortable with the state of affairs in the thread then why did you not bring that up sooner

Are you paying attention? I've been trying to Change the State of Affairstm since ages ago.

[Epignosis]

Oh and now the Epi wagon is dying.

[112]

Change The State of Affairs

#Biden2020

[Epignosis]

I knew votes would come together on me. Mind the reasons why so that after I'm gone you can make better decisions.

I keep hearing a lot of "this person is good, this person is good."

Nobody is bad then, heh?

Well, two people are, and it isn't me. So once I am relieved of my duties here as a warm body civilian voter, I hope you will reconsider folks like Arete and Ash who "Don't really like it" but they're comfortable with it and can't be bothered to find something they like more.

I have someone I like more, it’s 112. I’ve been arguing for that lynch.

But it’s 20 min to deadline and the lead wagon had 2 votes. We have to come together and that means someone has to compromise.

I have argued in favor of it too.

Hally says we're donkeys for it.

I don't think Hally is mafia.

What say you to that?

[112]

Change The State of Affairs

#Biden2020

Doesn't have the same ring to it as MAGA, I'll admit.

[Epignosis]

Change The State of Affairs

#Biden2020

That's right. We change the state of affairs by electing a guy who has been in office for 40+ years.

[Hally]

what if im a donkey though? that’s distinctly possible

[112]

what if im a donkey though? that’s distinctly possible

hally don't say those things

[Epignosis]

Suppose I let Arete and Ash lynch me and I don't change my vote.

I show up as the civilian that I am.

What does that do to your opinion of other people and them? Go.

[Ash Lael]

I knew votes would come together on me. Mind the reasons why so that after I'm gone you can make better decisions.

I keep hearing a lot of "this person is good, this person is good."

Nobody is bad then, heh?

Well, two people are, and it isn't me. So once I am relieved of my duties here as a warm body civilian voter, I hope you will reconsider folks like Arete and Ash who "Don't really like it" but they're comfortable with it and can't be bothered to find something they like more.

I have someone I like more, it’s 112. I’ve been arguing for that lynch.

But it’s 20 min to deadline and the lead wagon had 2 votes. We have to come together and that means someone has to compromise.

I have argued in favor of it too.

Hally says we're donkeys for it.

I don't think Hally is mafia.

What say you to that?

Honestly right now I think the team is exactly Hally/112 and all this soft claim stuff from Hally is some kind of mind game.

But even if I’m wrong (and yeah I could be easily), Hally is not an oracle. She can be wrong as easily as the rest of us.

[Arete]

like, I have trouble seeing how a reasonable native speaker of English* would interpret my sentence like that

and it kinda feels like you picked out a random line from my post and completely ignored my actual argument so that you could vote me and have a reason other than OMGUS

because the reason you're presenting does not make sense

*I don't know if you're a native English speaker, if you're not then I'm sorry and I'm not trying to insult you

Native English speaker?

I'll do you one better.

I'm an English teacher.

then presumably you should have been able to use context clues to figure out that my sentence was narrating my present state of mind rather than implying Wilgy's alignment would be different depending on when we flipped him!

What you meant was, "Right now, I don't think Wilgy is a hit." I knew that.

That isn't what your statement said.

Who is Tony's partner and why?

right now I'm leaning you as one of them, as you probably guessed from the fact that I'm voting you

And this is your best evidence:

Epi isn't a current wagon and is getting a pass for no clear reason so that could maybe be a hit? but I'm not, like, confident of that

That isn't me being a teammate of Tony.

You are mafia.

you are one of two players this game that I don't have non-associative reasons to townread (the other being Wilgy) and I think the threadstate points to Wilgy being a villager

before I brought you up no one was particularly interested in pressuring you for no clear reason, people who are getting zero pressure when no one townreads them and no one can really even point to a reason they're town are >>rand Mafia

your response to me switching my vote to you was actually awful, you OMGUS-voted me while inventing a reason that involved blatantly misconstruing my sentence. when further pressured for reasons you came up with reasons that were actively illogical and contradictory to the point that I have a hard time seeing it as anything but trying to invent reasons where they don't exist so that your vote looks more justified

you claim to be dissatisfied with the threadstate but have done nothing to change it for the first 46 hours of the day, as far as I can tell you did not care about it at all until you were being pressured. your actions are inconsistent with your supposed mindset.

none of these reasons are 'you are specifically aligned with Tony based on associations' but that doesn't make them invalid

[112]

Suppose I let Arete and Ash lynch me and I don't change my vote.

I show up as the civilian that I am.

What does that do to your opinion of other people and them? Go.

Nothing.

[Epignosis]

like, I have trouble seeing how a reasonable native speaker of English* would interpret my sentence like that

and it kinda feels like you picked out a random line from my post and completely ignored my actual argument so that you could vote me and have a reason other than OMGUS

because the reason you're presenting does not make sense

*I don't know if you're a native English speaker, if you're not then I'm sorry and I'm not trying to insult you

Native English speaker?

I'll do you one better.

I'm an English teacher.

then presumably you should have been able to use context clues to figure out that my sentence was narrating my present state of mind rather than implying Wilgy's alignment would be different depending on when we flipped him!

What you meant was, "Right now, I don't think Wilgy is a hit." I knew that.

That isn't what your statement said.

Who is Tony's partner and why?

right now I'm leaning you as one of them, as you probably guessed from the fact that I'm voting you

And this is your best evidence:

Epi isn't a current wagon and is getting a pass for no clear reason so that could maybe be a hit? but I'm not, like, confident of that

That isn't me being a teammate of Tony.

You are mafia.

you are one of two players this game that I don't have non-associative reasons to townread (the other being Wilgy) and I think the threadstate points to Wilgy being a villager

before I brought you up no one was particularly interested in pressuring you for no clear reason, people who are getting zero pressure when no one townreads them and no one can really even point to a reason they're town are >>rand Mafia

your response to me switching my vote to you was actually awful, you OMGUS-voted me while inventing a reason that involved blatantly misconstruing my sentence. when further pressured for reasons you came up with reasons that were actively illogical and contradictory to the point that I have a hard time seeing it as anything but trying to invent reasons where they don't exist so that your vote looks more justified

you claim to be dissatisfied with the threadstate but have done nothing to change it for the first 46 hours of the day, as far as I can tell you did not care about it at all until you were being pressured. your actions are inconsistent with your supposed mindset.

none of these reasons are 'you are specifically aligned with Tony based on associations' but that doesn't make them invalid

[Hally]

imagine listening to my reads on anyone

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

[Ash Lael]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

Going back to the vote I believe in.

[112]

guys

guys!

guys!!!

we're on page 112

[112]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

Going back to the vote I believe in.

'tis a sad day.

[Hally]

watch me be wrong and 112 is actually scum

distinctly possible

[112]

Wilgy is the way.

[Arete]

I have a really dumb tinfoil that Hally is a villager and Wilgy is also a villager and wolves specifically want Wilgy to be voted out because if V!Wilgy gets voted out, V!Hally dies, the last poison rands to a villager, and a nightkill happens that makes parity

this is probably silly

[112]

watch me be wrong and 112 is actually scum

distinctly possible

actually it's an impossibility, but don't let my insider knowledge sway you

[112]

nanook switching back to me without posting is sketchy

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

[Epignosis]

nanook switching back to me without posting is sketchy

Everything Nanook has done today is sketchy. I would lynch him.

[112]

Wilgy/Nanook team???

[Epignosis]

112 has been present today, which is more than I can say for most everyone else (including me).

[112]

112 has been present today, which is more than I can say for most everyone else (including me).

I would make my best effort to be present if I were maf.

[Poison]

It's the main reason that, despite my own thoughts, I am not voting 112.

why would you trust my read over your own?

A) I'm not reading (much),

2) I think you know 112 better than I do, and

d) I think mafia is comfortable with a 112 lynch. Therefore I am not. I want shit shaken up.

(Whoever gets the holiday film reference gets a prize)

i don’t know 112 at all. this is our first game together

Interesting.

Btw, I have played with scum!112 in a turbo before, but turbos don't count so I won't include that meta.

I don't think I've ever been scum in a turbo and only recall playing in one. You might be thinking of .113

It was a pretty recent game. I'll check it out later.

[Epignosis]

Hey Arete my fellow.

I'm not getting lynched today. Where is your vote going? You have a few minutes left to decide.

[Poison]

Look at the wagons

[Arete]

I don't like either of these wagons but if we get to T-2 minutes and it's still tied I'll break it

[Epignosis]

112 has been present today, which is more than I can say for most everyone else (including me).

I would make my best effort to be present if I were maf.

I gather that. I think you are genuine and I trust Hally judgment anyway. If I am wrong and you win, so be it.

[Epignosis]

I don't like either of these wagons but if we get to T-2 minutes and it's still tied I'll break it

Pretend I'm bad.

Who is my remaining partner?

[Arete]

Hey Arete my fellow.

I'm not getting lynched today. Where is your vote going? You have a few minutes left to decide.

if I had to vote one of the top wagons now I would vote 112 because I like the wagon composition better

I don't really believe in either of them being a hit but, like, I'm not 100 percent confident in them being V/V or anything