Bread Mafia [Game Over]

[staypositivefriend]

Aight Esooa:

Shielded LC a lot
Hasn't tunneled a mafia
Hasn't really pushed any reads or shown any insightful scum hunting

She's probably just mafia.

Pays to read ISOs people.

if LC is town then i'm not so sure, but i agree that a LC!scum world increases esooa's scum equity

[nutella]

Aight Esooa:

Shielded LC a lot
Hasn't tunneled a mafia
Hasn't really pushed any reads or shown any insightful scum hunting

She's probably just mafia.

Pays to read ISOs people.

ok

[tutuu]

The max wagon on LC

Long Con
7
54%
Voters: MacDougall, nutella, Made, EllieDelight, Alison, staypositivefriend, Esooa

Tutuu I am isoing Esooa and I very doubty that she voted LC dudesta. She has straight up townread him the entire day.

Love it

[Michelle]

Three friends have a nice meal together, and the bill is $25

The three friends pay $10 each, which the waiter gives to the Cashier

The Cashier hands back $5 to the Waiter

But the Waiter can't split $5 three ways, so he gives the friends one dollar each and keeps 2 dollars as a tip.

They all paid $10 and got $1 back. $10-$1 = $9

There were three of them 3 X $9 = $27

If they paid $27 and the waiter kept $2: $27+$2=$29

Where did the other dollar go? $30 - $1 = $29

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Okay, let me think.

Hmu with the solve, i have to go to work

[tutuu]

Post below!

[nutella]

you didn't quite get it right tutuu lol

[nutella]

the problem is it's misdirecting you into thinking two numbers need to match when they don't, they are different totals

i'm accustomed to the hotel version which i think is easier to understand bc it frames it as a price change

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_dollar_riddle

[nutella]

i guess you were sort of on the right track actually just sort of approached a slightly different way

[Made]

you didn't quite get it right tutuu lol

25 + 3 is 28 not 27
The 28th dollar is the 3rd one, no?

Then the 29th and 30th are given to the waiter?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I looked over Esooa’s posts. I don’t feel Mac’s read really, but I can’t say I was super duper inspired either. So fine Nanook can be in my solve instead

[EllieDelight]

hey made what are you better at Scum or Town?
Would you mind if i looked at some old games as both?
Thank you:)

hey @Made , can you answer these? or at least let me know youre not planning to?

[tutuu]

you didn't quite get it right tutuu lol

Another way to say this is, the $27 already includes the bellhop's tip. To add the $2 to the $27 would be to double-count it.

quote from the wikipedia page

The friends paid 27 dollars, but 2 of those dollars are already taken by the waiter. They paid 25 dollars + 2 for the waiter.

So saying 27 + 2 = 29 is a lie. You are counting the 2 dollars for the waiter twice.

what i said

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

you didn't quite get it right tutuu lol

25 + 3 is 28 not 27
The 28th dollar is the 3rd one, no?

Then the 29th and 30th are given to the waiter?

The two numbers aren’t really connected and there’s no reason they should sum up to the same number

[nutella]

you didn't quite get it right tutuu lol

Another way to say this is, the $27 already includes the bellhop's tip. To add the $2 to the $27 would be to double-count it.

quote from the wikipedia page

The friends paid 27 dollars, but 2 of those dollars are already taken by the waiter. They paid 25 dollars + 2 for the waiter.

So saying 27 + 2 = 29 is a lie. You are counting the 2 dollars for the waiter twice.

what i said

yea youre right i got confused again lmao

[tutuu]

pat pat i forgive you because you're cute

[nutella]

im sorry tutuu youre demonstrably better at math than me :P

[Made]

hey made what are you better at Scum or Town?
Would you mind if i looked at some old games as both?
Thank you:)

hey @Made , can you answer these? or at least let me know youre not planning to?

Hi sorry forgot. I’m better town player. Most recent game I was bad /w LC. Game before that I was also bad

[MacDougall]

Esooa's LC progression is bad.

grogu lc scum

Day 0 has this consensus opinion that everyone had.

Whether I'm town or scum, Grogu is surely town.

i feel like lc!scum made this post just so that people would look back at it later and wonder what the wifom means, lol

the wording is so sus

not even day 1 and he's anti-spew tbh

More of dis. So she's like you know, off LC on d0. Important to note that it's SPF pushing this bceause come day 1 Esooa flips perspectives and has SPF mafia and LC as so town she shields him constantly.

I think lc is town

Day 1. Suddenly LC is town.

mac what's your lc read

mac what's your lc read

I dunno

gth then

I appear and she prompts me to give an LC read. Which is actually a loaded question because I had not long prior posted this...

Hey Jay doesn't LC have to be scum for that read to be valid tho? What does it mean for poor Grogu if LC flips town?

Which heavily indicated that I in fact was humouring LC town. So she made this post specifically to get me to further vocalise that fact. More sheilding of LC.

I feel like Omega is threadspewed mafia

imo they're the most likely scum. I think it' s possible Alison is scum and I think if she is it's VERY likely with Spf. I think LC is town because he put effort into giving reads that sounded real when he was the consensus lynch, rather than anti-spew, and because his vt claim isn't what I'd expect in his position as mafia, among other things

Locks onto a read I give, shades Alison along the way. Preflip associates her to SPF. Explains LC townread. Someone fact check how much effort he gave into giving reads. @Esooa what are the "other things".

realistically, i'm probably never going to vote outside of the pool of LC/grogu/made today. i would be shocked if that pool didn't have at least one mafia.

why not DOOM or ellie

Offers SPF alternative options, random pairing. Mafia do this.

i switched my vote to made because it felt right

but i might switch back

awfully convenient that you're putting Made up for contention to be a wagon when Ellie is gaining traction and LC is losing it

Abrupt shading of SPF (and LC?). Weird gotcha post based on nothing.

I think LC's reads make a lot of sense from his PoV as town and that's a good look too

More justification of LC town that is actually nothing.

oof if i get baked im gonna be upset, this game is fun. like, cmon guys, we literally have this game solved. if i die that you'll see my reads are right and it just means i can't participate.
and i already said i have a reason for playing different, im just not gonna share it.

how is the game solved? Also you probably should share it considering you're gonna be baked if not lmfao

LC is scum, Michelle is scum. 3rd person will make themselves known.

kinda not feeling either of these scum reads rn

More sheilding of LC when town push him.

esooa, are you scum

yes

Scum claim. Esooa does this as mafia. No I am not joking.

esooa, are you scum

yes

Dope! Who are your teammates??

LC Alison

More jokes.

Ellie top wagon over LC we did it boys

Sorry about the rand Esooa and Con.

[tutuu]

im sorry tutuu youre demonstrably better at math than me :P

nooo im dumb and stupid and annoying and ugly and you're smart and funny and kind and pretty and gracious and i dont deserve your compliments. im sorry. ur the goat. i love you. hug.

[MacDougall]

Here's the thing:

Esooa hasn't been trying to find scum today. She's been trying to convince everyone to kill someone who isn't LC.

That's just her mafia play and it's just because LC is mafia.

I am sorry but like the chance I am wrong here is very low.

[MacDougall]

Btw she also shielded Michelle a lil bit. Look at the current votes on Ellie (yeah I just moved so what).

[nutella]

ok mac's long post about esooa is convincing

that lc progression is bad indeed

the point about prodding him to give a read is. wow

[MacDougall]

Though there was that blow up between them.

Bit of staged distancing?

Neither of them were like scum reading the other. It was just this weird blow up over nothing.

Eh don't need to solve that yet.

[nutella]

Here's the thing:

Esooa hasn't been trying to find scum today. She's been trying to convince everyone to kill someone who isn't LC.

That's just her mafia play and it's just because LC is mafia.

I am sorry but like the chance I am wrong here is very low.

im sold u da goat

[MacDougall]

ok mac's long post about esooa is convincing

that lc progression is bad indeed

the point about prodding him to give a read is. wow

yeah I thought that one was good ay

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Mac while you’re working on caffeine could you please glance at it from LC’s perspective too thanks

[Made]

hey made what are you better at Scum or Town?
Would you mind if i looked at some old games as both?
Thank you:)

hey @Made , can you answer these? or at least let me know youre not planning to?

Hi sorry forgot. I’m better town player. Most recent game I was bad /w LC. Game before that I was also bad

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 245&t=2000
Here the me bad game. Master Corridor I was good in and a lot of players in that game are in this one

[tutuu]

Here's the thing:

Esooa hasn't been trying to find scum today. She's been trying to convince everyone to kill someone who isn't LC.

That's just her mafia play and it's just because LC is mafia.

I am sorry but like the chance I am wrong here is very low.

This doesn't make sense to me. Eso protecting her partner LC. If that's what she's doing she's doing an atrocious job of doing it. She's not convincing anyone and not even attempting to convince anyone.

I think Eso is town, but if she is Mafia, she is TMIing Long Con town imo.

If Eso and LC are w/w, then it's because wolves have basically given up / conceded and the last wolf is also not even trying anymore.

[Made]

Also Mac, why not just go for the hammer on LC?

[nutella]

Here's the thing:

Esooa hasn't been trying to find scum today. She's been trying to convince everyone to kill someone who isn't LC.

That's just her mafia play and it's just because LC is mafia.

I am sorry but like the chance I am wrong here is very low.

This doesn't make sense to me. Eso protecting her partner LC. If that's what she's doing she's doing an atrocious job of doing it. She's not convincing anyone and not even attempting to convince anyone.

I think Eso is town, but if she is Mafia, she is TMIing Long Con town imo.

If Eso and LC are w/w, then it's because wolves have basically given up / conceded and the last wolf is also not even trying anymore.

i mean she could be trying imo, she's pushed her meta wolfread of ellie p hard, it's just not really taking.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If it’s Esooa/LC, Grogu is a clean fit.

But whatever one at a time

[tutuu]

Alright, fair enough.

[nutella]

If it’s Esooa/LC, Grogu is a clean fit.

But whatever one at a time

sweep sweep sweep

[DaughterOfOmega]

@DaughterOfOmega, when and why did I become a town read?

I said earlier, a lot earlier I think

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Here's the thing:

Esooa hasn't been trying to find scum today. She's been trying to convince everyone to kill someone who isn't LC.

That's just her mafia play and it's just because LC is mafia.

I am sorry but like the chance I am wrong here is very low.

This doesn't make sense to me. Eso protecting her partner LC. If that's what she's doing she's doing an atrocious job of doing it. She's not convincing anyone and not even attempting to convince anyone.

I think Eso is town, but if she is Mafia, she is TMIing Long Con town imo.

If Eso and LC are w/w, then it's because wolves have basically given up / conceded and the last wolf is also not even trying anymore.

i mean she could be trying imo, she's pushed her meta wolfread of ellie p hard, it's just not really taking.

I mean

Ellie looked viable for a bit and may still be so

I think it probably took some amount

[staypositivefriend]

Long con is a great name, but also scummy.

Oof, so tired, I need a coffee. Anyway, scum is in Nanook, Michelle, Alison, and maybe JJJ.

Alright, con is looking better.
I also did not like michelle and nanook as much.
I have not seen JJ or Ali

grogu lc scum

Hello E, what is lc? I am not scum.

lc is long con

Oh ok.
So you are saying LC and I are baddies?
I guarantee I am now.

lmao @ grogu's progression on LC

[nutella]

Here's the thing:

Esooa hasn't been trying to find scum today. She's been trying to convince everyone to kill someone who isn't LC.

That's just her mafia play and it's just because LC is mafia.

I am sorry but like the chance I am wrong here is very low.

This doesn't make sense to me. Eso protecting her partner LC. If that's what she's doing she's doing an atrocious job of doing it. She's not convincing anyone and not even attempting to convince anyone.

I think Eso is town, but if she is Mafia, she is TMIing Long Con town imo.

If Eso and LC are w/w, then it's because wolves have basically given up / conceded and the last wolf is also not even trying anymore.

i mean she could be trying imo, she's pushed her meta wolfread of ellie p hard, it's just not really taking.

I mean

Ellie looked viable for a bit and may still be so

I think it probably took some amount

yeah, like her shielding of LC did have a noticeable effect for a chunk of time

[nutella]

Long con is a great name, but also scummy.

Oof, so tired, I need a coffee. Anyway, scum is in Nanook, Michelle, Alison, and maybe JJJ.

Alright, con is looking better.
I also did not like michelle and nanook as much.
I have not seen JJ or Ali

grogu lc scum

Hello E, what is lc? I am not scum.

lc is long con

Oh ok.
So you are saying LC and I are baddies?
I guarantee I am now.

lmao @ grogu's progression on LC

yes

[DaughterOfOmega]

I'm either killing the baby yoda or voting off a wagon, since my other reads have a lot of town reads

[nutella]

we're gonna sweep the bakeoff

paul hollywood will be so impressed

[staypositivefriend]

grogu lc scum

Hello E, what is lc? I am not scum.

lc is long con

Oh ok.
So you are saying LC and I are baddies?
I guarantee I am now.

if the theory about LC/esooa/grogu is true, then this is a post that encompasses literally all of the mafia

feels a bit too easy to me, but i'm prolly just gonna wanna flip LC today and go from there

[tutuu]

I might end up voting on LC even if I don't scumread him.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Macdougal
Michelle
Grogu
Jay
Nutella

Is my list of current suspects, I'm not sure where I'd vote at the moment, I want to see more from them all

I dropped SPF off my towncore, added Jay

dropped Nutella from the scum list

update before dinner

I don’t see an explanation between these two posts or after them @DaughterOfOmega

[MacDougall]

Sia is the greatest pop songwriter to emerge on this side of the millennium to date. Taking arguments.

I only know her Christmad album. Top notch. Townread Joseph.

grogu lc scum

grogu lc scum

Hello E, what is lc? I am not scum.

It's ME!! I'm that scum!

I dunno

If you're just doing bog standard stuff why're you cagey about your plans?

whats cagey mean

cag·ey
/ˈkājē/
adjective
~ reluctant to give information owing to caution or suspicion.

Nothing

Whether I'm town or scum, Grogu is surely town.

i feel like lc!scum made this post just so that people would look back at it later and wonder what the wifom means, lol

the wording is so sus

not even day 1 and he's anti-spew tbh

Are you saying I'm a real go-getter?

Bats away her prod. Nothing.

Vote tags!

[ vote ]Esooa[ /vote ]

without the spaces

You can also click the vote button in Full Editor to place the tags.

Lol chooses Esooa to use as his placeholder. Fun.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Is this about that logicless scumslip conclusion from earlier?

That was initially why I suspected you, but I think "gets pressured by Alison/nutella early and then starts saying weird anti spew stuff" is a bad progression for you specifically.

What have you done D0? What are your reads?

You guys pressured me? I don't recall that. I chilled out on Day 0 like a good patriot.

Give me stances on:

- the players in the game (ie. a readslist)

- the idea of a "towncore" that's been floating around

Hmm... okay, well you are obvious scum. Nanook as well. DK is town, Esooa I think I thought was town, Made town, Grogu town, Mac town. JJJ shifty. tutuu pattable. Michelle town, SPF probscum but maybetown.

The idea of a towncore is awful, shoot from the hip, I say!

Next time you want something from me, I expect more politeness. This was a freebie.

Has Esooa as town in his reads. Why? I dunno.

I think lc is town

Jeez, don't lose your nerve now!

I need to be honest. I can't read Long Con. I shouldn't fake the confidence and say a number just for the sake of keeping my "image".

Long Con has often times faked frustration as Mafia. It's not a towntell for him.

He has slanked and been active as either alignment. Neither of these things are towntells or scumtells for him.

Actually let me double think on that claim. Have I seen him active as town? @Long Con would you call yourself as active as Town as you are when you are Mafia?

Am I wrong to think that you are more enthusiastic about the game when you are Mafia or 3P compared to when you are Town?

Anyway. Having contrarian or non-contrarian reads is also a thing I've seen him do as either alignments.

I don't think that people realize just how hard/impossible he is to read.

From my personal and subjective point of view, everyone who claims that they can read Long Con with confidence is faking that confidence.

How active I am depends on when we are talking about in the game

I think lc is town

this is false, you think lc is mafia

i don't understand the dynamic between you two and cannot tell if/when something is a joke, e.g. this

Ellie doesn't want to let go of an easy town yeet, because if you A-listers are even mostly right about who is town/towncore, then losing a scum such as Ellie in the first Day would be devastating.

I dunno this is nothing to do with Esooa but LC gets all "A-listers" and discrediting us for mind melding as mafia pretty commonly these days when we corner him.

You are saying Ellie is lying about the amount of games she's played when that's straight up not true

You are her lawyer or what?
What from i wanted an interaction with her was not in english?
Is not like you have a ton of experience yourself and when you jump and stop an interaction not adressed at you accusing someone of bulshitting you have to explain why becasue is not a natural behaviour. And the fact you know her irl is not relevant for the game.

Remember you didn't want to explain earlier how do you perceive the gamestate because allegedly you waited for content, but you can't observe you can stay in your place when the convo is about someone else.

where is your head at?

Sounds to me like Esooa still feels a little responsible for Ellie's Mafia experience, which I would understand.

Oooh defends Esooa lol.

You are saying Ellie is lying about the amount of games she's played when that's straight up not true

You are her lawyer or what?
What from i wanted an interaction with her was not in english?
Is not like you have a ton of experience yourself and when you jump and stop an interaction not adressed at you accusing someone of bulshitting you have to explain why becasue is not a natural behaviour. And the fact you know her irl is not relevant for the game.

Remember you didn't want to explain earlier how do you perceive the gamestate because allegedly you waited for content, but you can't observe you can stay in your place when the convo is about someone else.

where is your head at?

you are literally

straight up

lying

about verifiable, numerical, things

for no fucking reason

so I am telling you to stop

I don’t want to stop
I don't lie, i was saying your friend is too bold to be a noob.
That's not lying, is showing my opinion
You can't shot my mouth by being rude.
I want to talk with Ellie, not you.
I have a read for you.

@EllieDelight explain me how you see your game, what alignament was nicer for you to play, and what's your goal when playing.

she ISN'T too bold to be a newb because she is a newb, this is literally factual, it isn't an opinion, it is factually correct that she is new to mafia and you can either acknowledge that or just be factually incorrect

Kind of a compliment, isn't it?

Dunno, this means nothing to me.

I think LC's reads make a lot of sense from his PoV as town and that's a good look too

Why does this make me slightly angry?

Weird. Maybe the first point against them together? I dunno. Fakeable reaction if the anger is derived from him not appreciating her outing herself to save him. Let the tunnel continue!

Yeah it's whatever. They look like teammates to me.

[nutella]

on this hype note im going to bed


sneak preview of my dreams tonight:

[MacDougall]

Here's the thing:

Esooa hasn't been trying to find scum today. She's been trying to convince everyone to kill someone who isn't LC.

That's just her mafia play and it's just because LC is mafia.

I am sorry but like the chance I am wrong here is very low.

This doesn't make sense to me. Eso protecting her partner LC. If that's what she's doing she's doing an atrocious job of doing it. She's not convincing anyone and not even attempting to convince anyone.

I think Eso is town, but if she is Mafia, she is TMIing Long Con town imo.

If Eso and LC are w/w, then it's because wolves have basically given up / conceded and the last wolf is also not even trying anymore.

You gonna have to trust me here.

[MacDougall]

Also Mac, why not just go for the hammer on LC?

u... what?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

i love grogu

[MacDougall]

I'm either killing the baby yoda or voting off a wagon, since my other reads have a lot of town reads

dude just stay the course where you are lmao

[DaughterOfOmega]

Macdougal
Michelle
Grogu
Jay
Nutella

Is my list of current suspects, I'm not sure where I'd vote at the moment, I want to see more from them all

I dropped SPF off my towncore, added Jay

dropped Nutella from the scum list

update before dinner

I don’t see an explanation between these two posts or after them @DaughterOfOmega

You asked when

Also to answer this I'd have to return to reading the pages before than and give the explanation I had at the time I made the read. I don't remember stuff like that most of the time.