Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]

[Seanzie]

It occurs to me that from a wagons perspective, Sonny being mafia might be a tiny tick back in the teammate direction for Made. It depends on when Sonny was around late in Day 1, but he now represents an official nutella voter and not-Made voter who flipped mafia. If Made was a save, they didn't ALL go for it.

I don't think this is an uptick.

Sonny's last post of D1 was 5 hours before EoD:

bad bunny rejoining the game after 10 years and deciding the game's two most active hunters and its most active overall player are her three mafia reads is so bad I have to wonder if it can even be bullshit. Is this a player known for contrarianism (or undue paranoia of effortful hunters), PerC people?

Whatever she's doing doesn't make sense to me.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Damm. Nearly half of the first "Interactions Of" that JJJ did are dead lol.

[Sloonei]

What Would Hawk Do?

[Allcrab]

What Would Hawk Do?

Survive off a diet of mostly small rodents?

[Seanzie]

What Would Hawk Do?

Survive off a diet of mostly small rodents?

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[Allcrab]

What Would Hawk Do?

Survive off a diet of mostly small rodents?

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Aaaaaand that's all we've got time for today, folks! I've compiled this nice list of my last will and testament:

Gnome https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 19#p802419 - also she didn't vote at EoD1
Dana https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 96#p802490
Martin https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 01#p802518
Fable https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 50#p802569
Owner https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 00#p803794
Act https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 91#p803991
LoMo https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 39#p803928
Sonny https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 58#p803858
Orange https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 73#p803873

Gonna go solve puzzles now bye

Summary of reads:

Gnome - 82% mafia
Martin - 43% mafia, possible 3p
Fable - 30% mafia
Act - 40% mafia
Monkey - 28% mafia
Sonnycrush - ~75% mafia

Hawk was having fun with the numbers and grants they don't mean much. But they give an impression. I included Sonnycrush as a baseline.

[Sloonei]

Damn, what a solve.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

[Guillotine]

@Guillotine you very vocally implored me to shoot you. If you are town, this guarantees that a civilian dies. Why is that ideal?

Pride and selfishness, i wanted Seanzie to be scum so much that i wanted you to clear me so i could go full power on him for his ill intended biased push on me.

I'm sorry.

[Seanzie]

@Guillotine you very vocally implored me to shoot you. If you are town, this guarantees that a civilian dies. Why is that ideal?

Pride and selfishness, i wanted Seanzie to be scum so much that i wanted you to clear me so i could go full power on him for his ill intended biased push on me.

I'm sorry.

So now you think I am not scum?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

In truth Mac is probably a better tinfoil than Nanook just because my very first impression of him was negative.

[Sloonei]

@Guillotine you very vocally implored me to shoot you. If you are town, this guarantees that a civilian dies. Why is that ideal?

Pride and selfishness, i wanted Seanzie to be scum so much that i wanted you to clear me so i could go full power on him for his ill intended biased push on me.

I'm sorry.

I am noting that you refer to your seanzie suspicion in the past tense. What changed?

[Guillotine]

@Guillotine you very vocally implored me to shoot you. If you are town, this guarantees that a civilian dies. Why is that ideal?

Pride and selfishness, i wanted Seanzie to be scum so much that i wanted you to clear me so i could go full power on him for his ill intended biased push on me.

I'm sorry.

So now you think I am not scum?

In retrospect I think you've been an asshole (in game asshole lol) but it's hard to believe you'd hellbuss Nutella and also put OC as first option before me as scum, bussing OC in turn as well.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

hello everyone i actualy only fecognise some of you but i am excited to play here

i have not been able to catch upw tith everything but i have started to

so far i have these people town: Act (though am becoming cautious with him the more i read), Jay, Tangrow, Guil, Dana, Alison (lesser town read)

Just gonna throw this scrap into the kennel for the lads to tunnel. OC's first post.

[Allcrab]

Strong town
Jay
Sonny
Guillo
Tangy

Town leans
Gnome
Alison
Martin I guess sheeping alison
Dana
Mac
Sloonei
Hawk? Liked their style
Act maybe at this point

Gav Nook LC are more tbd
Dont remember anyone else

Going to sleep for like 12 hours gl

There is 1 wolf between Jay, Sonny and Tangy. Nutella had more deep and meaningful interactions with Tangy than Jay and Sonny up to this point. She made no effort to defend Jay from me when I tried to push him nor did any kind of "Jay is just town" deflated shit so that means she probably was enjoying him getting pushed and just townreads him here to pocket him. So the mafia between them is probably Sonny.

In the leans I would say that Martin, Hawk and Act are probably not mafia because she would be too conscious of over-elaboration as a tell. There is probably 1 mafia in this list though and it is probably Garden Gnome.

There is probably one between Gavial and Long Con also.

Eh, I get it, scum can group people together with a teammate, but I was being widely town read, if there is scum in her strong town reads it isn't me so keep digging.

Interesting about the overelaboration thing (as in overarching mafia interesting) never really considered that.

I'm quoting this more for what mac is saying here.

Does he just straight up call out a teammate off of a Nutella post if they're teamed?

That seems too harsh to me but idk mac well enough to say for sure.

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: Act] aubergine however, felt like an instigator when everyone was attacking me and then dipped out when the fire was lit. I still remember Act's discredit on me along with Nutella when i was putting Nutella under the scope for her scummy push on me.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'd say that's a nice moment for Mac, yes, crab.

[Seanzie]

@Guillotine you very vocally implored me to shoot you. If you are town, this guarantees that a civilian dies. Why is that ideal?

Pride and selfishness, i wanted Seanzie to be scum so much that i wanted you to clear me so i could go full power on him for his ill intended biased push on me.

I'm sorry.

So now you think I am not scum?

In retrospect I think you've been an asshole (in game asshole lol) but it's hard to believe you'd hellbuss Nutella and also put OC as first option before me as scum, bussing OC in turn as well.

So, given the threadstate (which was clearly pro-OC, anti-Guillo shot), you don't think I as a wolf would try to blend in? Do you think that no one who voted OC is a wolf?

[Guillotine]

hello everyone i actualy only fecognise some of you but i am excited to play here

i have not been able to catch upw tith everything but i have started to

so far i have these people town: Act (though am becoming cautious with him the more i read), Jay, Tangrow, Guil, Dana, Alison (lesser town read)

Just gonna throw this scrap into the kennel for the lads to tunnel. OC's first post.

Im abandoning my galaxy brain backburning deathtunnel on you.

I dont think scum!you brings this post to our attention when he is in the scum's town read list.

[Alison]

It occurs to me that from a wagons perspective, Sonny being mafia might be a tiny tick back in the teammate direction for Made. It depends on when Sonny was around late in Day 1, but he now represents an official nutella voter and not-Made voter who flipped mafia. If Made was a save, they didn't ALL go for it.

Yeah we have to look at Made now.

[Alison]

@Made gibe reads list

[Alison]

Are there any notable Sonny/orangecrush and Act interactions?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Are there any notable Sonny/orangecrush and Act interactions?

I just posted a single ugly one. I am working on a full review now.

[Alison]

Are there any notable Sonny/orangecrush and Act interactions?

I just posted a single ugly one. I am working on a full review now.

That does look bad.

[VOTE: Actvscenei] aubergine

@Garden Gnome please explain concisely why orange's interactions with you are beyond the realm of bussing.

[Alison]

In truth Mac is probably a better tinfoil than Nanook just because my very first impression of him was negative.

The actual reason to tinfoil Mac is that he tried to sell us on orange not asking to be shot if they were scum.

However I am more interested in clearing the POE and have little interest in tinfoil right now.

[Guillotine]

@Guillotine you very vocally implored me to shoot you. If you are town, this guarantees that a civilian dies. Why is that ideal?

Pride and selfishness, i wanted Seanzie to be scum so much that i wanted you to clear me so i could go full power on him for his ill intended biased push on me.

I'm sorry.

So now you think I am not scum?

In retrospect I think you've been an asshole (in game asshole lol) but it's hard to believe you'd hellbuss Nutella and also put OC as first option before me as scum, bussing OC in turn as well.

So, given the threadstate (which was clearly pro-OC, anti-Guillo shot), you don't think I as a wolf would try to blend in? Do you think that no one who voted OC is a wolf?

I mean... im a hellbusser when i have to, but i dont think you put in all that effort to thunderdome with me and then decide to tell Sloonei to shoot OC over me. This is based on logic (for what that logic is worth) because i havent played with scum!you.
I dont know if scum has voted for OC, i havent have time to reevaluate my reads.

[Allcrab]

I do think gnome getting on orange's case about wolf reading them before they have a chance to breathe is a slightly good look for gnome.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

However I am more interested in clearing the POE and have little interest in tinfoil right now.

Generally agreed. I don't mind it being visited a bit as a sort of pressure release valve. But this game has all the markings of Easy Mode and there's no reason to deviate.

[Alison]

Ehhhhhh

I think a significant amount of the player list tends more towards individual mafia play than the kind of organized team play you're accustomed to

what does this mean?

That the gamestate reads around owner you're making don't necessarily apply imo

yeah maybe but also maybe she's not mafia anyway because of maths and this game being a game of rng

Yeah, could be ig

Idk maybe you're right, where do you wanna go if not owner? I'll follow you for a bit

Seth seems pretty adamant he has a red check on Hawk.

Bad Bunny looks bad.

Sonny would be a death blow to the mafia if that were a hit.

I am not entirely sold on Made being a save either.

Sonny has 155 posts. He made 139 of them before a mafioso flipped, and 16 of them after a mafioso flipped.

I think he is a candidate for demoralized mafia.

Sonny has 155 posts. He made 139 of them before a mafioso flipped, and 16 of them after a mafioso flipped.

I think he is a candidate for demoralized mafia.

I think you might find it's worse than that. I think most of Sonny's posts occurred during the first half of d1 even.

These posts were made at a time where Sonny was under little pressure.

Mac is town.

[Guillotine]

@Guillotine you very vocally implored me to shoot you. If you are town, this guarantees that a civilian dies. Why is that ideal?

Pride and selfishness, i wanted Seanzie to be scum so much that i wanted you to clear me so i could go full power on him for his ill intended biased push on me.

I'm sorry.

So now you think I am not scum?

In retrospect I think you've been an asshole (in game asshole lol) but it's hard to believe you'd hellbuss Nutella and also put OC as first option before me as scum, bussing OC in turn as well.

So, given the threadstate (which was clearly pro-OC, anti-Guillo shot), you don't think I as a wolf would try to blend in? Do you think that no one who voted OC is a wolf?

I mean... im a hellbusser when i have to, but i dont think you put in all that effort to thunderdome with me and then decide to tell Sloonei to shoot OC over me. This is based on logic (for what that logic is worth) because i havent played with scum!you.
I dont know if scum has voted for OC, i havent have time to reevaluate my reads.

I meant this to say im a hellbusser when i have to when i rand scum.

[Seanzie]

Ehhhhhh

I think a significant amount of the player list tends more towards individual mafia play than the kind of organized team play you're accustomed to

what does this mean?

That the gamestate reads around owner you're making don't necessarily apply imo

yeah maybe but also maybe she's not mafia anyway because of maths and this game being a game of rng

Yeah, could be ig

Idk maybe you're right, where do you wanna go if not owner? I'll follow you for a bit

Seth seems pretty adamant he has a red check on Hawk.

Bad Bunny looks bad.

Sonny would be a death blow to the mafia if that were a hit.

I am not entirely sold on Made being a save either.

Sonny has 155 posts. He made 139 of them before a mafioso flipped, and 16 of them after a mafioso flipped.

I think he is a candidate for demoralized mafia.

Sonny has 155 posts. He made 139 of them before a mafioso flipped, and 16 of them after a mafioso flipped.

I think he is a candidate for demoralized mafia.

I think you might find it's worse than that. I think most of Sonny's posts occurred during the first half of d1 even.

These posts were made at a time where Sonny was under little pressure.

Mac is town.

Damn, is Guillo right about you?

Those timestamps.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Okay Act is almost definitely mafia. I'll share shortly, but after looking bad in both the Owner and nutella reviews, it's only somehow worse with Sonnycrush.

[Allcrab]

Has made really not made a post since d2 or is their ISO broken? .-.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Has made really not made a post since d2 or is their ISO broken? .-.

He has. Sometimes the ISO links are wonky.

[Sloonei]

Has made really not made a post since d2 or is their ISO broken? .-.

made was here earlier this phase. sometimes isos be broke like that.

he did not know that tangy was confirmed town when he was here 24 hours ago.

[Sloonei]

correction: tangy is not confirmed town. Tangy is confirmed not-mafia.

[Alison]

Act and orange have treated each other negatively this day phase. However, it's hard to rule out a pairing between them just based on that, because they are almost certainly obligated to bus or out themselves as mafia teammates in this situation. I peered further back into the bus, back before orange and Act were in hot water, to see how they treated each other.

You’re voting for Orange, but you seen pretty firm on your scum read of Gnome. You’ve done an ISO of those you just listed, putting work into those reads, and you’re voting Orange?

@Actvscenei whobshould Sloonei shoot in the butt? Who should we vote out?

If I had the shot, it would be between you and Orange. Whoever wasn’t the shot, we vote.

These posts struck me as concerning. The first one is made in response to hawk, who is flipped town. In other words, Act is trying to discredit/call into question a townie's scumread of orange. The second one looks like a desperate attempt to try to take JJJ down with orange.

@Actvscenei am I mafia?

I don’t know, are you?

You’re not interested in sorting me. You’re interested in serving big helpings of question casserole to provide the appearance of sorting.

Actually this is something I noticed about act that they ask a million questions but then said they don't make reads lists which I found very strange because it's almost like they want to create the impression that they are solving with all the questions and using the questions yo build fake reads which don't even exist in any firm. I don't think town solving would involve adding all these questions and then refusing to provide reads list but also I don't know act

This post was made today. The last time orange spoke about Act, it was to have her as a confident townread. In other words, orange had Act as a pretty confident townread, and suddenly seized on JJJ's suspicion to turn on her today without any visible reasoning or progression. Make of this what you will - if I had to guess, it looked like orange realized they had to bus Act today, and seized on the first plausible angle to make that push on. I guess some people could interpret it as scum trying to opportunistically bury town so I welcome input on this U-turn on Act's alignment.

My final conclusion is that I have no strong reason to rule out an Act/Orange partnership, and some concerning posts that point in that direction.

[Guillotine]

Tangrowth has really really drop off from this game.

[Alison]

Damn, is Guillo right about you?

Those timestamps.

Huh?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Interactions of Sonnycrush and Actvscenei

From Sonnycrush

Spoiler: show

Why is Act getting love?

Wait, @Guillotine is a percy player?

Are you known as anything else?

They hosted a game there recently iirc

Sometimes they go by guillotina

Oh, well I was going to give them points for how they engaged with Act v Dana stuff as I understand why people read Act's jumpiness and questions as bothersom if they don't know that her paranoia is paranoid about being paranoid o.o if they know her though, it's meh.

If act has a read on gnome already she's a hot stinking liar

tell me more

Act is uncertain at best and tends to find Gnome scummy regardless. So yeah, it's true, if she had a read on Gnome it would be shady. That said, I like her play so far. Did I miss her give a read on Gnome tho? Thought she was raising why it was shady that Dana didn't find Gnome shady as that tends to be the default of those who don't know better.

Not fully caught up but so far I have 6 Percy's who haven't even posted yet =/ sad.

Do you have any loose impressions of the Percys that have posted?

Act and Guillotine (who I don't think I actually know) are looking townie to me.
Kito is in standard slank mode which is fine and meh.
Hawk didn't give much when she was here so wait and see.
Gnome is Gnome, my default is to not read/sheep others on her until there is evidence of something or I'll end up tunneling nothing.

I expect Belzy, Owner and Seanzie at the least to post enough to give reads and am sad they're not here yet.

Tbh I expected more.

I'm still responding to page 1 of 15, not there yet. I'm really curious about why a wagon is on Act.

I can see why those who don't know Act are suspect, her first question really is redundant, but I think it's largely around people not knowing her. Her question to Dana was what I was thinking when I saw the nervous post and I think it's valid to expect those who don't know Gnome to be suspect of her. Anyway, catch up.

Seriously smh, how did I get first so easily.

I like your first posts. Nice to meet you!

Likewise!

What do you like about them?

They feel genuine. I also feel the progression works. So, yeah. I like ‘em.

This is something I haven't seen from act in a while lol.

Finding someone genuine?


Unrelated, screw nested quotes. Really.

@Sonny, did you give a read on Owner? If not, what do you think of her?

Felt like she was here for 2 minutes, posted next to nothing of value, didn't read everything, than left. I was, err, underwhelmed. I expect left-of-centre from her, not meh.

General question for our Percy friends, or for those to whom it applies:

hello everyone! I'm so nervous but also very excited to make lots of new friends!!

A few of you have either voiced direct suspicion of Dana for this post or suggested that you would have or could have done so in the ensuing dialogue relating to Act and Guillotine.

Why? What about this Dana post is worrisome, or could be worrisome? I ask this to develop my ability to interpret everyone involved, perhaps even Dana herself. My first instinct is that not everyone voicing a sentiment like this is being honest, but determining who is not going to be easy if the conversation continues to exist on this vague plane of woulds/coulds/nulls. Help an angry bear out.

It's jarring wording to me and I've no issue with Act jumping on it, had she not I would have myself to see where it led. After that it becomes WIFOM, should town be nervous, probably not. Would scum say they were nervous, probably not, but could someone be scum and honest about how they feel, could do, depends on the player. The fact none of the locals seemed bothered by it despite the conversation dwelling there for some time makes it more meh.

here's some preliminary day 1 "reads" (not sure how read-y they will be bc I feel like I never have super strong feelings.. im sure some of you might not particularly appreciate that but its just how it be sometimes early on, im sorry)


[READS LIST]

This list though.... What prompted you to do this?

You have a problem with it?

[READS LIST BASED ON NUTELLA INTERACTIONS]

Actvscenei: Says first post is wolfy. Gave awk vibes. Had TMI on Tang. Changed to Act may just be like this. Says voted Act for backtracking on Tang. Backs off Act - Mentions/interacts with her a bit but is kinda meh overall

Owner of a Lonely Heart: Owner calls her scum for a weird word, she seems to push owner forward although votes LoMo, keeps her name out there though - Probably town

[READS LIST SNIP]

@Actvscenei is there anyone besides Dana that you have a read on? Your singular focus is singular.

Anyone:

Without looking, tell me an Actvscenei read other than “Dana is mafia”.

Couldn't. But Act would be aware of how she comes across, locking down on one player isn't a good look to sell as scum.

hello everyone i actualy only fecognise some of you but i am excited to play here

i have not been able to catch upw tith everything but i have started to

so far i have these people town: Act (though am becoming cautious with him the more i read), Jay, Tangrow, Guil, Dana, Alison (lesser town read)

I'm kind of flipping back and forth between current day and reading back

My thoughts on the healer thing is that I don't see any reason we can't have multiple healers when we now know that there have been multiple poisons, that obviously doesn't mean anything for the alignment of each one so that's an important thing to remember

The one thing that sticks out is 1-shot and 2-shot claims. I have no real reason for thinking this but I think they would both be 1 or both be 2 OR are different Alignments if both real. It just seems kinda random to give town a 1 shot and a 2 shot of the same role instead of just two 1 shots or a 3 shot. Maybe it's my ocd lol

Anyway I'm more concern with Gnome and Mac at the current times

Did you see my post to Hawk? I asked her some questions and brought up some things that don’t make sense to me. Can you make sense of my concerns?

I think they think they wasted a shot because Alison was already healed by Martin so they both healed the same person which would mean one shot was wasted.

But then instead of saying that it kind of looks like they think they wasted a shot because they were roleblocked but I don't think that would affect a day action lol

So it's all a bit confusiong and doesn't really make sense as an entire post

I do agree a shot was wasted though if both targeted Alison

@orangecrush since you're here, would you mind listing out some townreads/scumreads you have as of where you're at right now? Explanations are welcome but not necessary. It will just help give us some content to read you off of.

im town reading Act, Dana, Guil, Tangrowth

town lean for Jay and Martin and Sloonei

scum reading Gnome and Mac

scum lean on Hawk

can elaborate on any you wish just ask

Actually self admittedly shit posting is anti town because it disrupts the thread which could be used for good solving discussion and it clogs up the thread with stuffs that we don't need. Like I've already said Gavlis did this in the last hame I played exactly the same and yes he was scum

Fake red checking someone if you are town would be hilariously anti-town so the question is Just how bad are you as town because if the answer is not very then the plausible explanation is anti-town you is not actually town this game.

Any reasonablly good town lplayer doesn't have to fake check someone to get people to vote them too they can get those votes anyway, wouldn't you agree with that?

lets kill this

Sonny's posting plummeted after a bad start to the game by scum and now his replacement is trying to get mac run up for shitposting and faking checks

I can't speak for sunny but I do stand by my reads and am confident in them despite the hawk flip and in my head it makes a lot of sense that such play would be by a scum player, especially after recent games I played. I totally understand voting me though and to be honest I've had a hard time catching up with the game

You say you understand why people are voting you. Why do you think people are voting you?

The games I have played I have been able to make people know I am town but these games I have been caught up and this game I know I'm still not even half way through the thread and I've been trying to catch up but I've also been busy , I was wrong about hawk being scum which sucks too and look bad but the things I have noticed and pointed out are things I hope are considered because I have died early last few games and it is very frustrating seeing things and not being able to point them out

@Actvscenei am I mafia?

I don’t know, are you?

You’re not interested in sorting me. You’re interested in serving big helpings of question casserole to provide the appearance of sorting.

Actually this is something I noticed about act that they ask a million questions but then said they don't make reads lists which I found very strange because it's almost like they want to create the impression that they are solving with all the questions and using the questions yo build fake reads which don't even exist in any firm. I don't think town solving would involve adding all these questions and then refusing to provide reads list but also I don't know act

Bad bunny says I do not have many posts and should be left to be alivr but actually I have a lot of posts this feels like they're trying to get on the right side of defending me for when I flip town I'm getting q bad vibe

Bunny is dead. Why should we care about your bad vibes here? Are you suggesting we yeet bunny?

how is this suspicious at all...

Because I get the sense that Orange is grasping rather than actually scum hunting.

But I have over 100 posts, that's more than people that have been here alive from the beginning. So actually what bunny said was not true at all and felt much like a fake defense of me

Bunny might be mafia but they are poisoned. If they survive the poison they are probably outed mafia from it anyway. So even if you're right it kinda doesn't matter.

Ok but act saying I'm grapsing at straws is stupid because bad bunny defending me with such defense is super weird and seems like looking for town credit. If they are poison and then they survive then they would look very bad

@Actvscenei am I mafia?

I don’t know, are you?

You’re not interested in sorting me. You’re interested in serving big helpings of question casserole to provide the appearance of sorting.

Actually this is something I noticed about act that they ask a million questions but then said they don't make reads lists which I found very strange because it's almost like they want to create the impression that they are solving with all the questions and using the questions yo build fake reads which don't even exist in any firm. I don't think town solving would involve adding all these questions and then refusing to provide reads list but also I don't know act

Reads lists are WIFOM and easily fabricated. What isn’t easily fabricated is game interaction. Want to know my leans? Read the game, not a reads list.

Having q concrete and easily referenced read list is pro town. Why do all the hard work and then make it more difficult for town to benefit from unless you want to create the image of solving while maintaining some ambiguity towards your actual stance s I don't like that

how is this suspicious at all...

Because I get the sense that Orange is grasping rather than actually scum hunting.

But I have over 100 posts, that's more than people that have been here alive from the beginning. So actually what bunny said was not true at all and felt much like a fake defense of me

Bunny might be mafia but they are poisoned. If they survive the poison they are probably outed mafia from it anyway. So even if you're right it kinda doesn't matter.

Ok but act saying I'm grapsing at straws is stupid because bad bunny defending me with such defense is super weird and seems like looking for town credit. If they are poison and then they survive then they would look very bad

So you think they're both mafia? ok you only need 1 more for auto. Who is it? Consider carefully.

You are probably not with actr especially if the day vig is real but I think one of you is scum

But I have over 100 posts, that's more than people that have been here alive from the beginning. So actually what bunny said was not true at all and felt much like a fake defense of me

Bunny might be mafia but they are poisoned. If they survive the poison they are probably outed mafia from it anyway. So even if you're right it kinda doesn't matter.

Ok but act saying I'm grapsing at straws is stupid because bad bunny defending me with such defense is super weird and seems like looking for town credit. If they are poison and then they survive then they would look very bad

So you think they're both mafia? ok you only need 1 more for auto. Who is it? Consider carefully.

You are probably not with actr especially if the day vig is real but I think one of you is scum

act, bunny, ?

who fits?

I have to read through interaction s to see what fits but Gnome would be my third on top of act or you and bunny rigjt now.

@Sloonei I think my preferred shot is Act now.

Do you think that the dayvig is fake

Taste the rainbow. I tried to re-orient my colors a bit to make them more intuitive.

Orange - These are null/neutral/NAI comments and interactions. It's not comprehensive. You do get a sense for it being Sonny's initial reception of Act though, even as Act took early suspicion in the game. He didn't really "resist" that suspicion, but he put a bunch of nuggets into the thread to suggest her behavior was NAI. Kinda lame.

Green - These posts are defensive of or positive on Act. OC especially adopted a pro-Act stance at least for the initial portion of their play. I'll more to say about that in the red section.

Cyan - Sonny reviewed the Act/nutella interactions, found a weird progression, and couldn't say anything but "meh".

Red - These are statements of suspicion or anything that can be interpreted as such. Sonny's read on Act was pretty variable as one can see in the colors and doesn't seem to follow a tangible path beyond "what am I responding to?" -- Sonny's view of Act is dependent upon the questions or comments he encounters about Act. Not super groovy. The more significant reds to me though come from OC. We saw that OC opened the game with a clearly positive view of Act, but that sharply turns for the worse with OC's first red post.

FOLLOW THE TIME STAMPS.

dayvig Actv

sorry if yr town

OC's first negative review of Act came six minutes after Mac pulled this. As we'll see in the pink portion, OC seemed to think this was real or least that it could be real.

OC wanted to get out in front of Act flipping mafia. Terrible look. I can sympathize a bit, because for many games Mac's move is against the rules. But this is our game.

Blue - Also note a couple of instances of Act providing OC with gentle prompts to help get them involved. Kind, but also convenient.

Pink - Per the last one, OC was entertaining Mac's dayvig as real. Also note that they were trying to create a Mac/Act dichotomy, which to me is suggestive of a teammate among them (and given context it'd clearly be Act if either one).

Gonna post this half now in case there's discussion to be had. I also have to pee really bad. I'll look at Act's side of the story next.

[Sloonei]

Tangrowth has really really drop off from this game.

This is not alarming. It is a blessing for tangy to have graced us at all this game. She rarely has time for games these days.

[Seanzie]

Damn, is Guillo right about you?

Those timestamps.

Huh?

You quoted posts from both you and Mac in close chronological order. Were you looking back at the thread at that time to make that read?

[Alison]

Tangrowth has really really drop off from this game.

This is not alarming. It is a blessing for tangy to have graced us at all this game. She rarely has time for games these days.

Corroborating this. Tangy is well known to be busy IRL and rarely has time for games. I'm not surprised she dropped off after being towncleared.

[Alison]

Damn, is Guillo right about you?

Those timestamps.

Huh?

You quoted posts from both you and Mac in close chronological order. Were you looking back at the thread at that time to make that read?

No, I was thinking about Mac because I just wrote a post about tinfoiling him, then I remembered he attacked Sonny pretty harshly in an interaction we had, so I went back in my ISO to find it, and quoted it, and I think it looks great for Mac.

I don't get what you were trying to say, what's wrong with looking back at the thread?

[Garden Gnome]

Are there any notable Sonny/orangecrush and Act interactions?

I just posted a single ugly one. I am working on a full review now.

That does look bad.

[VOTE: Actvscenei] aubergine

@Garden Gnome please explain concisely why orange's interactions with you are beyond the realm of bussing.

Since I rarely bus as scum, that's a question that I am going to have trouble answering. Also, I don't know how orange would interact with anyone as scum. She read my D1 play, which included not voting at the end of the day (I wasn't home at the time and had no access to a computer), and decided that I looked like an easy mis-yeet. My D1 play looked confused, and it was.

Also, orange has already lost two teammates to yeets. It wouldn't make much sense for her to sacrifice a teammate.

I hope that helps.

[Seanzie]

Damn, is Guillo right about you?

Those timestamps.

Huh?

You quoted posts from both you and Mac in close chronological order. Were you looking back at the thread at that time to make that read?

No, I was thinking about Mac because I just wrote a post about tinfoiling him, then I remembered he attacked Sonny pretty harshly in an interaction we had, so I went back in my ISO to find it, and quoted it, and I think it looks great for Mac.

I don't get what you were trying to say, what's wrong with looking back at the thread?

Nothing is wrong with looking back at the thread.

Sonny just flipped and out of vanity, I've been looking over the thread where I figure out Sonny was scum. It was about 5 minutes prior to those posts you gave. I think it is not unreasonable to think that Mac's posts there were in direct response to a Sonny disheartened because I was just pushing hard on them. You described it as a situation having little pressure on Sonny. I disagree.

[Alison]

Actvscenei
Allcrab
bad bunny
Garden Gnome
Guillotine
JaggedJimmyJay
lost monkey
MacDougall
Made
MartinGG99
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sloonei
Seanzie
Tangrowth

I have strong reasons to eliminate the following players from consideration for the exe today: bunny (dies anyway), Guillotine (sufficiently townie via paranoia and dynamic play), JaggedJimmyJay (obvious town, likely spewed town by mafia), lost monkey (extremely credible and corroborated watcher claim, nutella tried to get him killed), MacDougall (buried both Sonny and nutella), MartinGG99 (because I say so), NANOOK (good interactions with nutella, tried to pressure Sloonei to make a shot when Sloonei had orange as a default shot but was considering other options), Sloonei (desperado duh), Seanzie (red checked Owner), Tangrowth (desperado duh)

That leaves:

Actvscenei
Allcrab
Garden Gnome
Made

Act is my top suspect since me and JJJ basically concluded that she had suspicious interactions with flipped mafia at the same time. Allcrab is probably the towniest person here because I think he has been townie on play today and looks very good if Act is mafia. Made seems to have been coasting by on being the counterwagon but Sonny's vote points towards something fishy going on in the D1 wagons. That's suspicious. I keep putting Gnome in my POE because frankly she won't get out but to be honest deep down I feel like she's erratic as either alignment and is probably sort of rand.

Act
Made
Gnome
Allcrab

Scummiest to towniest.

This is my solve. You guys have sold me on Made, congrats. (Sonny's vote helped.)

[Alison]

Are there any notable Sonny/orangecrush and Act interactions?

I just posted a single ugly one. I am working on a full review now.

That does look bad.

[VOTE: Actvscenei] aubergine

@Garden Gnome please explain concisely why orange's interactions with you are beyond the realm of bussing.

Since I rarely bus as scum, that's a question that I am going to have trouble answering. Also, I don't know how orange would interact with anyone as scum. She read my D1 play, which included not voting at the end of the day (I wasn't home at the time and had no access to a computer), and decided that I looked like an easy mis-yeet. My D1 play looked confused, and it was.

Also, orange has already lost two teammates to yeets. It wouldn't make much sense for her to sacrifice a teammate.

I hope that helps.

This is a townie response from gnome.

[Allcrab]

After reading through again kinda where I'm at although I don't agree with martin being clear at all I'm at Act>Martin>Made and if wolves arn't gone by then start freaking out lol.