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You are all jumping to obvious narratives or trying to catch "a-ha!" contradictions that won't hold themselves which makes me feel you think I'm easy to yeet since you don't know me and are trying to get a wagon rolling.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:37 pmWell I can't argue w/ a gut read.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:30 pmI only remember TF2, anything before that is Land Before Time.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:15 pmFair enough.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:00 pm Like I don't stop engaging with a player's opinions just because I think they are scum. I always assume there is a (very high) chance I'm wrong, so I have to treat their opinions seriously.
If you are town, you're overthinking, and it's worth telling you that.
You've hosted a number of games I've played in, and have the benefit of an 'eagle eye' w/ re: to my town meta. What makes you think I'm scum this game?
Also not really a meta guy tbh.
But if I have to answer, it's mostly gut feeling. Your initial posts felt forced and your pustuit of me feels more like someone trying to manipulate others to make a wagon than actually believing in it.
Maybe I'm wrong, but for D1 first half that's pretty good.
My 'pursuit' of you has been...what, roughly 3 posts? And my 1st posts had nothing to do with you, so I assume you mean I'm also forcing those posts?
Tell me, why do they feel forced? Does this feel...forced right now?
Cuz this is what I'd call a classic false narrative
Never expressed frustration as mafia in Molly Maguire, mainly because I was widely townread the entire game.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:04 pmI think he did last time he was mafia? Idk I don't really remember but I seem to recall hearing about it afterwards, in the Molly maguire game I wanna sayTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:03 pmtown, and it's kinda a thing, but he's gotten better at it and he's a good wolf I think and could probably fake itDrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:56 pmDoes the frustration being genuine make him Scum or Town?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:54 pm I can't tell if Lime Coke is trying to simulate frustration or if he's actually going to the moon.
So now you're applying my sus of Sprityo (a-ha moment) to yourself as well? What's the obvious narrative? Cuz I believe I just accused you of weaving a false narrative, now your gut-read on me has evolved to include a narrative push as well.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:49 amYou are all jumping to obvious narratives or trying to catch "a-ha!" contradictions that won't hold themselves which makes me feel you think I'm easy to yeet since you don't know me and are trying to get a wagon rolling.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:37 pmWell I can't argue w/ a gut read.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:30 pmI only remember TF2, anything before that is Land Before Time.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:15 pmFair enough.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:00 pm Like I don't stop engaging with a player's opinions just because I think they are scum. I always assume there is a (very high) chance I'm wrong, so I have to treat their opinions seriously.
If you are town, you're overthinking, and it's worth telling you that.
You've hosted a number of games I've played in, and have the benefit of an 'eagle eye' w/ re: to my town meta. What makes you think I'm scum this game?
Also not really a meta guy tbh.
But if I have to answer, it's mostly gut feeling. Your initial posts felt forced and your pustuit of me feels more like someone trying to manipulate others to make a wagon than actually believing in it.
Maybe I'm wrong, but for D1 first half that's pretty good.
My 'pursuit' of you has been...what, roughly 3 posts? And my 1st posts had nothing to do with you, so I assume you mean I'm also forcing those posts?
Tell me, why do they feel forced? Does this feel...forced right now?
Cuz this is what I'd call a classic false narrative
I don't feel like you believe the things you are saying tbh.
I don't solve. Solving is a myth. And I'm really skeptical about people who tell me they can read others precisely (I know those people exist but I don't think they are common).falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:50 am What about my posts/tone feels false to you? Is it just gut-feels...is that how you usually solve? I'm not overly familiar w/ your playstyle.
Can you elaborate? What's the towncore you speak of?G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:09 am Upon reading the game thread, I am not impressed with the game state so far. There seems to be a fair amount of know-it-all-ism, leading to early assumptions and flimsy towncore construction. Either that or I'm still just a horrible D1 player and most of you are just fishing.
Dolby seemed constructive in his efforts. There's too much one-off posting going around, but he isn't afraid to multi-quote and build.
Falcon has almost maxed out his post count for the phase. I don't like that.
I will never be able to refer to Lime Coke as LC. Sorry.
It is good to see DDL back in the arena.
That's more of a scumtell than otherwise imo.
I don't solve. Solving is a myth.
I’m always wolfy eh?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:12 am Oh my God, so town, how does he do it?:
Lime Coke
Townread:
Falcon - Despite how I felt about him in the early going, I think him widely suspecting and asking questions towards everyone in the game is probably town indicative of Falcon. Even if it's questioning EVERYTHING and at points is pingy as hell, that's just how he is as town.
NotAnAxehole - More of a vibe read but probably in townrange..Spoiler: show
Townlean:
Dragon - I think his assessments are fine? Can see him misreading Falcon if both are town because of playstyle, and as I've said Falcon can just naturally come off as scummy when he's town with his scumhunting style. His read on me looked fine. Decent look so far.Spoiler: show
Scumleaning:
Gavial - His 2 "catch-up" posts remind me of Baby Mafia where he was mafia, and it was mostly just responding to fluff to have a convo about something and just pinging people for pictures.
DrWilgy - When he was scum during Coffia he was way more aggressive than when I've seen him as town. This game feels relatively the same in terms of just him hard scumreading two players instantly, one of them being me for an intro post that means jackshit.
The rest would be...
Nanook
Sprityo
Dolby
TSP
Sig
These all have content that I can't garner anything on in terms of a read. However if I'm correct on my 2 scumleans it might not be as much of an issue? Would be a nice change for once.
And then FingerSplints and G-Man both have only posted 1 time.
Neutral makes more sense but like, meh your one person that using normal thinking.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:05 am I don't remember anything useful about Sig and that's not good. Even when everyone is suspecting him, town Sig says things.
LC I think is fine. Frustration feels honest.
I'm tending to like NAA and Wilgy because they agree with me but that makes me paranoid.
I know Dolby said things but I don't remember them. So lean scum.
Kinda like TSP so far.
Gavial is a neutral, there isnt much to say about early spamming and uninformed vote. Could yeet, don't feel strongly about doing so.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:03 am vote: gav because he's the only person of the three people with two votes right now who I'd be fine with going over on day 1
RudeDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:24 am Oh there are other people I forgot.
splints hasnt started playing yet. Also good to see her in a game again. Has it been like, 6 years?
I second what G-Man said above, good to see you too. DOn't have a strong opinion on you, though.
Nanook posted and it sucked but Nanook always sucks in the first 2-3 days and he's one player I can't read to save my life. So I'll ignore him for now.
sprityo is always scummy regardless of alignment and he hasnt said much so w/e
You have two votes on you, and haven't been misselim'd in a while. This is disingenuous.
I agree. Good post.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:22 pmYou have two votes on you, and haven't been misselim'd in a while. This is disingenuous.
Agreed, but I have my hesitation because it is Sprit.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:28 pm Sprityo might be the best D1 though based on game state.
Thanks for reinforcing my stereotype. You remember my mislynch chart don’t you?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:24 am Oh there are other people I forgot.
splints hasnt started playing yet. Also good to see her in a game again. Has it been like, 6 years?
I second what G-Man said above, good to see you too. DOn't have a strong opinion on you, though.
Nanook posted and it sucked but Nanook always sucks in the first 2-3 days and he's one player I can't read to save my life. So I'll ignore him for now.
sprityo is always scummy regardless of alignment and he hasnt said much so w/e
“Do it, bitch”NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:28 pm Sprityo might be the best D1 though based on game state.
I thought he was saying "throw" as meaning in terms of... bodly fluid?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:35 pm Also, Gav saying he's going to game throw is both hilarious and pathetic given recent events. That many people in this game witnessed first hand. I won't comment further as I expect he will fix his position.
What point does this kind of vitriol even servefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:16 pmI don't solve. Solving is a myth.
You are all jumping to obvious narratives or trying to catch "a-ha!"...
Now where did I hear that?
Who am I kidding, I think you're scum, so I'm not surprised
It's scarred in my mind forever.sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:45 pmThanks for reinforcing my stereotype. You remember my mislynch chart don’t you?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:24 am Oh there are other people I forgot.
splints hasnt started playing yet. Also good to see her in a game again. Has it been like, 6 years?
I second what G-Man said above, good to see you too. DOn't have a strong opinion on you, though.
Nanook posted and it sucked but Nanook always sucks in the first 2-3 days and he's one player I can't read to save my life. So I'll ignore him for now.
sprityo is always scummy regardless of alignment and he hasnt said much so w/e
Cool.sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:48 pm I’ve already expressed my intent of dying early game so that I can play GoC at full capacity prior to the game starting and that statement stands true still, but the more important fact for going over is 1. Vote analysis (my favorite) and 2. Continuing discussion to generate alignment based readings
Sounds like w/w to me.sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:03 pm Dr wilgy is most definitely a doctor, I thought gavials image posting for reads was distracting and not necessary/lazy, gman can be town, NANOOK is in his snake oil shop peddling me unicorn powder (null), that’s my surface level assessment as I don’t know about half these people and I’m rusty on metas.
Speaking of people though- Hello new people! I haven’t played mafia in about 9 months so it’s nice to meet you! Don’t let anyone try lying to you about me, I’m a sub par player at best who gets his reads from speculation of vote analysis rather than player to player interaction.
The good news is usually when I get mislynched the town wins
Vitriol: cruel & bitter criticismDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:47 pmI thought he was saying "throw" as meaning in terms of... bodly fluid?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:35 pm Also, Gav saying he's going to game throw is both hilarious and pathetic given recent events. That many people in this game witnessed first hand. I won't comment further as I expect he will fix his position.
What point does this kind of vitriol even servefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:16 pmI don't solve. Solving is a myth.
You are all jumping to obvious narratives or trying to catch "a-ha!"...
Now where did I hear that?
Who am I kidding, I think you're scum, so I'm not surprised
"Hipocrisy is a staple of the town's playbook".falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:30 pmVitriol: cruel & bitter criticismDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:47 pmI thought he was saying "throw" as meaning in terms of... bodly fluid?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:35 pm Also, Gav saying he's going to game throw is both hilarious and pathetic given recent events. That many people in this game witnessed first hand. I won't comment further as I expect he will fix his position.
What point does this kind of vitriol even servefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:16 pmI don't solve. Solving is a myth.
You are all jumping to obvious narratives or trying to catch "a-ha!"...
Now where did I hear that?
Who am I kidding, I think you're scum, so I'm not surprised
Do you feel that I was cruel? I feel I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy.
Tho you taking my "I know what I'm doing..." post that has Homer blowing up a bowl of cereal seriously as a scumtell is kinda towny
Nah it’s not that it’s just that people keep thinking I’m a wolfy player when I don’t do anything wolfy.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:22 pmYou have two votes on you, and haven't been misselim'd in a while. This is disingenuous.
You know you may say stuff like this but Y’know that it’s me going over today.Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:37 pm I'm at NAA and LC town
I might flip on Falcon over the spirtyo thing bc I kinda think that Spirtyo hasn't actually done anything with their new posts in thread
then I'm looking later on and it seems they're doing it so blatantly that it actually isn't sus anymore
nah It's scummy since in reading the rules and saying what he said it's an attempt to get town points.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:24 pm I don't think I've ever played a game in this site without a day zero. Feels weird.
I'm not sure how saying you read the rules is possibly AI. Feels like a trait of the individual not of an alignment.
Still a bad take, but town nonetheless.sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:06 pmnah It's scummy since in reading the rules and saying what he said it's an attempt to get town points.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:24 pm I don't think I've ever played a game in this site without a day zero. Feels weird.
I'm not sure how saying you read the rules is possibly AI. Feels like a trait of the individual not of an alignment.
I like mafia? What do you mean?
I didn't post anything useful last game either and I was mislynched so as the host of it.......oh wait nvm ignore that train of thought pls.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:05 am I don't remember anything useful about Sig and that's not good. Even when everyone is suspecting him, town Sig says things.
LC I think is fine. Frustration feels honest.
I'm tending to like NAA and Wilgy because they agree with me but that makes me paranoid.
I know Dolby said things but I don't remember them. So lean scum.
Kinda like TSP so far.
Gavial is a neutral, there isnt much to say about early spamming and uninformed vote. Could yeet, don't feel strongly about doing so.
Like this post.G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:09 am Upon reading the game thread, I am not impressed with the game state so far. There seems to be a fair amount of know-it-all-ism, leading to early assumptions and flimsy towncore construction. Either that or I'm still just a horrible D1 player and most of you are just fishing.
Dolby seemed constructive in his efforts. There's too much one-off posting going around, but he isn't afraid to multi-quote and build.
Falcon has almost maxed out his post count for the phase. I don't like that.
I will never be able to refer to Lime Coke as LC. Sorry.
It is good to see DDL back in the arena.
I mean like playing playing day 1 and being so series not like. Wtf is this rando doing here on a forum playing mafia playing .DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:11 pmStill a bad take, but town nonetheless.sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:06 pmnah It's scummy since in reading the rules and saying what he said it's an attempt to get town points.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:24 pm I don't think I've ever played a game in this site without a day zero. Feels weird.
I'm not sure how saying you read the rules is possibly AI. Feels like a trait of the individual not of an alignment.I like mafia? What do you mean?