Porschuwaga's ISO thyme. Medium rare with a nicely seasoned crust.
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:32 am
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:01 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:01 am
so you're saying you're defending jack for no reason
Yes.
kay
First thing of notice is Porscha homing in on Neon's Jack read. I wonder if this will be brought up later in the ISO.
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:54 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:08 pm
Saxon is the police dog in hot fuzz.
but who would make the dog a mafia team flavor. that's kinda insane
think about it
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:58 pm
although maf do just get fake flavor to claim so maybe the dog is a good fake flavor
The above is regarding Sabi's claim. Its like Porscha dipped the toe in expressing it was suspect then decided to nah. I feel like I'd be at fault to not point out that this hedgey behavior is EERILY similar to what I noticed in the behavior towards Jack to come later.
Oh and here's something that caught my eye but I forgot about:
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:42 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:41 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:40 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:39 pm
Someone just moved onto Sabi and I'm wondering as to why they felt the need to do this at this stage in the game.
it was me just cuz I caught up and didnt feel the need to be on anne anymore
You were on me though. Why?
wait was I
hang on I think i'm mixing up games
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:42 pm
oh yeah that's right I randomly voted you yesterday cuz you haven't felt very towny yet lmfao
I thought I was still on anne from earlier in the day
sorry I got 45 mins of sleep last night i'm kinda brain dead
I remember this being awfully scummy in the moment. As if Porscha just felt the need to move to Sabi for what little credit there may be left in the wagon.
A town read on Obs is provided
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:38 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:05 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:08 pm
Yeah Anne can you quote the thing from Sabi on Rondo? I'm on my phone but he's been posting gifs all game so I'm not sure about that one. I only got to skim it but had Wilgy and Creature as very clear.
Why Creature?
I almost always can pick town Creature out early and here, I’ve got him as a big ole blank.
ya same
This is kinda bad.
Following this there's an interaction with me, Porscha claims that there was no point being on the Creature vanity wagon.
Discusses why Ruri wasn't killed.
Alot of speculation on why Rondo was killed.
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 1:49 am
rondo also had some interactions with ruri that are not in ruri's favor as rondo pushes on her reveal and was obviously never counterclaiming but ruri made it seems like she thought he was for some unknown reason
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 1:50 am
since lily was also poe for rondo and lily flipped town, I think rondo had jack and lucy poe'd with shade on ruri for her reveal and actions towards him. hope i'm extrapolating his gif reads correctly
It almost feels like Porscha was set on looking to make reads based on Rondo's flip here. MFW Porscha's entire plan was to NK then fault people for those NKs.
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:34 am
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:24 am
one in wigly/porscha
Spoilering the emoji because it's chungus, but BRO when Lucy flipped you went at my throat. I had completely forgotten you had this exchange.
Started skimming at this point as I'm running out of time. Might be abit busy during EoD but I'll quote HIGH QUALITY PRIMO IMPORTANTE SHIT going forward.
Below are the hedgey Jack posts:
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:27 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:23 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:03 pm
Here are the post counts from the start of Day 3. I screenshotted them before the night ended but was too lazy/forgetful to post them.
Neon: 160
obscurity: 130
anne: 79
DrWilgy: 75
Jackofhearts2005: 73
RondoDimBuckle: 67
lucy: 64
Creature: 63
Lilypetal: 60
Porscha: 37
Seanzie: 34
Schiavetto: 26
pyxxy: 25
falcom45ca: 23
NANOOK: 12
Ruro: 2
After Creature pointed out I wasn't post capped, I realized I had been counting from the start of D3, which would put me at like 100 posts. I'm not in antispew. I'm just super bad at timezones.
That's a joke. I'm super bad at checking that Sloonei's most recent postcount was for the day phase we were currently on
i'm wiling to believe mistake cuz idk wtf my post count is I just assume it's too low to not even worry about
but i'm still making squinty eyes at you
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:39 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:27 pm
I mean, it's because nothing Anne says sounds dishonest and there's nothing wrong with flash wagoning Lucy. Like, Wilgy and Scotty both also jumped on that flash wagon quickly and I think (know for Scotty) they are both town. And for Wigly, it's basically because of the flash wagon. I think it was a good look. So why does Anne get reverse credit for trying to move a misyeet into a probable wolf? I don't get it.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:23 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:09 pm
Options town have today
Miselim me
Vote out one of Lucy/Anne/Sabi
I must insist no other choices be made.
I am of the view Lucy is probably town but I won't begrudge a resolving of the random d1 wagon on her.
I will not be analysing this game in any effort oriented manner until Anne and Sabi are both dead in this game.
If you are mafia and none of the other three are mafia I am your win condition and good game.
there's 100% one scum in anne/sabi
judging by how quickly they were gonna Flashwagon me
Yeh. Sabi+Lucy gottem gg
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:28 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:19 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:09 pm
Options town have today
Miselim me
Vote out one of Lucy/Anne/Sabi
I must insist no other choices be made.
I am of the view Lucy is probably town but I won't begrudge a resolving of the random d1 wagon on her.
I will not be analysing this game in any effort oriented manner until Anne and Sabi are both dead in this game.
If you are mafia and none of the other three are mafia I am your win condition and good game.
there's 100% one scum in anne/sabi
judging by how quickly they were gonna Flashwagon me
We flashwagon you to save the *check notes*
Town commuter.
Yes that's scummy of us
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:21 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:03 pm
Kill mac I'm commuter
Hmmm anne and I are scummy for trying to save him.
Is that correct @lucy @MacDougall
Lol okay valid.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:30 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:21 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:19 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:09 pm
Options town have today
Miselim me
Vote out one of Lucy/Anne/Sabi
I must insist no other choices be made.
I am of the view Lucy is probably town but I won't begrudge a resolving of the random d1 wagon on her.
I will not be analysing this game in any effort oriented manner until Anne and Sabi are both dead in this game.
If you are mafia and none of the other three are mafia I am your win condition and good game.
there's 100% one scum in anne/sabi
judging by how quickly they were gonna Flashwagon me
We flashwagon you to save the *check notes*
Town commuter.
Yes that's scummy of us
he claimed after vote count stopped
can you give actual reasoning?
But that's....
It doesn't matter if Cape claimed later. Correctly being like "I think Cape is town. We should wagon someone else" is still a good thing. And then you got totally deer in the headlightsed by it (as did Mac but idk what to do with that because I don't think that w!Mac goes "lol" in response to a flashwagon on his partner at eod).
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:47 pm
anne wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:42 pm
anne wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:39 pm
anne wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:37 pm
i dont care about making the game state bad, just read cats vs dogs on mu if you want to see me raging out as town. this is much milder in comparison.
I'm not saying you're raging... you're just being needlessly insulting... like being toxic or whatever is one thing but like in this gamestate you supposedly have mac outed and day 2 just started ... we've lost hardly any ground as a town here and you're acting like the game is over even though you also have me cornered and wagoned
your mental doesn't really make sense... if I'm outed you just need to point out how and I'll die ez clap after that day 1... scotty died sussing me
but no you just acting all ree... cuz you're a wolf lol
tbf i think neon is 10x more obvious than you are, but if you're town then its frustrating and we probably already lost because you just jump on me every game for no reason now and its annoying
you say this but it's also verifiably not true
it literally is
Like I tell my kids. You never convince each other going back and forth like this. You just make daddy tired.
Show your work @anne @MacDougall
didnt really like these but also found posts from jack that are towny but I am too lazy and tired to quote them all so this was a waste of time for myself
Below Porscha starts the hard push on my slot:
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:11 pm
Unsurprised
Sean locktown wilgy probs has to die
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:11 pm
Hold up go read all of wilgy posts 2 pages before eod and tell me that is town
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:12 pm
Also lucy said she was gonna go hard in the paint on wilgy today as well so like mmmmmMMMMMM
Microwave noises
Wilgy you tryna die or what
In light of noticing Lucy's statements were 1 in Porscha/Me I think that this looks waaay worse than I had originally perceived.
Also there's this:
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:32 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:30 pm
but lucy thought it was me/anne/wilgy, and jack flipped mafia so
1. their 3/3 was off already after jack flip and had to be revalled
2. i know they were wrong on me
so i'm a bit hesitant to follow that. part of why i thought they'd like, though, was i thought they were town mafia would want alive to keep pushing bad reads.. so them dying is either because
1. they were right on something
2. mafia wanted to kill them to push the stuff they were wrong on
so i am a little suspicious of you if wilgy is town here.
they were also spewed clear but creature seemed like the far more obvious kill to me, that was only a conclusion i came to overnight?
There is no way you would be suspicious of me even if wilgy ended up town. Wilgy looks awful in this situation. Stop downplaying it and acting like lucy couldnt be right on wanting to push him
Playing for what could be seen as my eventual flip? Harking on Lucy's call when the Lucy call was between us two?
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:42 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:23 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:51 am
I really wanna know what you did or did not do, nook
I motion detected creature instead of wilgy cause I completely mixed up their eods
Nook ima be honest. You look a little less sexy than usual right now
Shade on Nook.
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:53 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:52 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:43 am
feel weird about Wilgy not showing up yet..
i guess i should ISO him.
Good morning my friend.
I'd have thought by now that my busy/"I have time to burst" play style would've been realized by now just based on when I normally make it to the thread but alas.
While I haven't read everything I've skimmed and thoughts are like this:
I agree with my yeet before lylo. I don't desire to be the easy misyeet that causes us to lose so if the information gained from my yeet pre lylo gets us there then I'm good with that.
With that in mind I do think we are still in a really good position and we should be able to just win by yeeting the last wolves.
I think it's absolutely an absurd thing to think I'd kill Lucy in that position after how hard I shielded Jack.
Porscha's immediate push on me, after they waffled on Jack last cycle, using what I assume is a set up NK is super fucking sketchy and I'd almost recommend that the only wagons be Porscha or I. Flip me with the promise to assess Porscha's push on me gets us a pelt, I think.
I will actually read after work today.
Lmao you tryna thunderdome with me yesterday after your performance? My feelings on jack made sense based on my half ass position in the game yesterday but multiple people waffled on his slot and I wasnt alone in that. I also sheeped lucy read because there had to be a reason she died last night and she had you and me (unsure if she finished eod still having me in poe but regardless she openly stated she was gonna run you up today) in poe. Actually yeah i kinda look like shit now that I've said it out loud lmfao
WHATEVER
I'm not sure how confident I'd be that you are like for sure wolfing or whatever based on the NK because it is painfully obvious that lucy was gonna be on your ass today. But that leaves me thinking if you are town wilgy then wolves did it to explicitly frame you since you look awful from the jack flip and a lucy nk.
So I understand why you are suspicious of my push onto you thinking it might be wolf motivated but it's the obvious look that I need to do to entertain why lucy was the NK instead of nook who softed a PR or anne who buried sabi or obscurity who I should probs tinfoil cuz Lucy tinfoiled him too
Contextual review makes this one malicious. Of course you'd understand my suspicion if you know my alignment.
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:07 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:19 am
Ranking whoever are aliving.
Phraze
Obscurity
Falcon
Porscha
Seanzie
pxxy
Schiavetto
Anne
Neon
DrWilgy
Creature
Nanook
Based off limited impression from posts seen at random. Middle is null. Bottom is a mixup of rands. Nanook I dislike for the fake checks.
I think list not very informed (bad). Ruri probs town
TR's ruri for a bad list. TBH this would be a great way to gain momentum from a sleepy slot had Porscha wanted to encourage Ruri's bad list.
Porscha shades Falc after this.
There actually seemed to be quite a bit of Ruri suspicion thrown next. Perhaps I'm starting to lean on Ruri not being the teammate.
More pushing on me after this.
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:38 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:22 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:10 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:04 pm
Like, just yeet me for my jack interactions, then yeet Porscha and the game should be as good as solved after that though.
in what universe does that solve the game lmao. what do you expect to happen after you flip and then I flip. like what spew do you expect to be spewed
offering to trade in this scenario, even if genuinely coming from you if you are town, is.................. unbecoming. it implies a lot of confidence in the alignment of my slot and I don't get why you seem tunneled on me from the get go when the obvious line of reasoning after lucy flip AND sean flip afterwards points to you. if you're being framed it is not my fault I see the frame. we all know it's out in broad daylight. find the wolves framing you, or you are getting out-poggered and out-gamed, unfortunately.
I mean frankly the fact that you didn't go over after jack flip AND sean NK means you're doing pretty well getting by. simultaneously focusing on the framing aspect while you live day after day is unbecoming. it's putting me off
I think it solves the game on PoE. Even if you flip green after me I think it's 4v2 and finding the wolf in Neon or Shia should be easy.
I'll admit, there is a world where I'm wrong. I don't think I am and even if I am, I think we still win after the fact. I just think by voicing my discontent with the push we may get there sooner. I don't think it's a matter of being out poggered. I just think it's an incorrect investment, that also night yeets confirmed. Like I said, I think it only wins the game for wolves if we've miscleared in Nook or Obs. I really don't think I'm wrong elsewhere.
I don't see how it's unbecoming. I accepted that I'd need to flip for the best chance to win, doing all I can in the meantime.
i'm fine with you being fine on your slot being flipped, but insisting on flipping me right after when my reasons for suspecting you are clear as day is not particularly.... helpful? you already said you thought my push couldn't come from wolf after I dropped it yesterday. so why are you back on flipping me since my push on you is now "wolfy" again.
if you and I can both see the same painting on the wall that has your face on it in a nice fancy frame, and I point it out, then w
hy aren't you working with me to find the wolves who put you there? why are you pushing back on me for pointing out the obvious?
I also disagree that finding "the wolf" between neon and schia would be "easy." to put it plainly.
So this is the post that shifted my read on Porscha. I thought it was relatively town minded. Especially blue. Now that I'm going through everything, I feel that perhaps I made too much of this post being town minded, but damn my gut screamed a town had to be making it in the moment.
Porscha's push on me ceased after this one. Either we came to finding each other OR Porscha was just fine with having me in pocket while I still face the autowagon.
Everything after this is pretty recent so I'll cease. The big conclusion I've come to is that I think I gave way too much town cred for a single post. It felt right in the moment, but Porscha's ISO is extremely sketchy. I do think it's kinda funny to acknowledge that the core of the Porscha push on me coincided with players that were also suspicious of Porscha. Lucy and Pyxxy being a means to push me at the same time of getting rid of Porscha opposition is observed. Seanzie could've been a Creature yeet attempt. Both make sense as they were both pretty townfirmed.
So Porscha, where's your head at now? I feel that I didn't get much talk of who you suspect out of you today, what are the W teams looking like in current?