[ENDGAME] The Office Mafia

#101

Also, what the hell you got against the letter Q, huh, INH? I can't think of any threatening words that start with the letter Q, but if I did, I'd threaten you with it.

#102

@sig, I think it is analogous; he suspects them primarily for defending me on day zero.

Zeus wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:I think I've managed to crack Matt's point system, here's my version of it.

bea +100 cuz she's nice
birdwithteeth11 -1 for showing up out of nowhere
Bullzeye -1 for being scum in my last game
Cobalt +5 because he has a cool name
DFaraday +3 because Jeremy Davies is an underrated actor
Drumbeats 0 drum is a mediocre instrument. I prefer the theremin
DrWilgy +7 for the Danganronpa references
Elohcin +2 because of cake
enrique -2 anyone with the letter q in their name is automatically untrustworthy
Epignosis -1 for liking David Lynch's Dune
fingersplints 0 i'm really kind of neutral on Mindy Kaling. Wasn't a big fan of her show tbh
Goldy -1 for not being Golden
insertnamehere -10 why won't he reveal his real name? obv scum
leetic -5 hasn't posted an ISO yet, obv scum
LoRab -3 doesn't have a muppet avatar anymore
Matt -1 for reasons stated in a previous post
Quin -1 the letter q rule strikes again
rabbit8 -100 sneaky weaselly wabbit
Scotty -1000 Russell Hantz defender. Do I need to say more?
Serge +1 in apology for Attack on Titan
sig -1 for anime references
Sorsha -1 the three letters "sha" in connection with one another are very suspicious
Spacedaisy +100 cuz she's nice
SVS -5 tildes are the most scummy of symbols
timmer +5 reminds me of the band Timber Timbre
Zeus +100000000 he's the greek god of lightning and shit. I mean, come on!

also, in case you couldn't tell, this is supposed to be sarcastic
Maybe lighting but shit? meh no thanks! xD

Can someone tell me how do I vote on here?

At the top of the page, there is a poll. Select your choice, click the box/circle fter it & hit "submit vote".

#103

sig wrote:
Epignosis wrote:sig, I'm disappointed. I thought you were going to accomplish your hell or high water goal of finally getting me lynched.
Hey! I was right one time and wrong once. So that means from a statistical view point there is a 50% chance that if I think you're mafia that you actually are.

linki: Scotty suspecting Matt for throwing around suspicion day is suspicious yes.
I didn't see Matt implying you doing anything game solvey is suspicious since we aren't in day 1 yet. Which is what Scotty was doing to Matt so your comparison makes no sense.

I didn't say I suspected Matt. You'd be hard pressed to get a real suspicion of someone on day 1 for antics, let alone Day 0.

There's still like 5 people that haven't checked in. Vote in dat poll!

#104

Scotty wrote:
sig wrote:
Epignosis wrote:sig, I'm disappointed. I thought you were going to accomplish your hell or high water goal of finally getting me lynched.
Hey! I was right one time and wrong once. So that means from a statistical view point there is a 50% chance that if I think you're mafia that you actually are.

linki: Scotty suspecting Matt for throwing around suspicion day is suspicious yes.
I didn't see Matt implying you doing anything game solvey is suspicious since we aren't in day 1 yet. Which is what Scotty was doing to Matt so your comparison makes no sense.
I didn't say I suspected Matt. You'd be hard pressed to get a real suspicion of someone on day 1 for antics, let alone Day 0.

There's still like 5 people that haven't checked in. Vote in dat poll!

EBWOP: that should read "Real suspicion from me"

And before you ask, I can't read people for shit on day 1 without voting records to work with.

#105

Elohcin wrote:I was going to vote management until I saw this. It makes sense, so I will vote personnel.

Good to see you timmer!!

Thanks, glad to be back!

My experience with The Office is/was pretty sporadic. I've never seen the British show at all, and only watched episodes of the American one every now and then, but when I did, it was always pretty solid. I'll never forget Michael "declaring" bankruptcy, lol...

#106

Are votes changable?

insertnamehere wrote: LoRab -3 doesn't have a muppet avatar anymore

Beware the meeping angels is both muppet and Who, so I'm still muppety--only better.

#107

insertnamehere wrote:@sig

maybe my suspicion of matt suspecting other people because they suspected him for suspecting SVS but was really just trying to get a reaction is just me trying to get a reaction from other people to see if i can suspect them.

-2.924765 sig

i love this style of gameplay. literally anything i do can be handwaved away for "trying to be game solvey and get a reaction!"

yay for no consequences!

baddie

#108

Votes are changeable, LoRab.

#109

If Cobalt doesn't reappear, lynch him.

INH, how long will you take until you begin to policy lynch no shows/wallflowers?

#110

Voted memo, at least for now. Don't want to not get a chance to vote tomorrow.

#111

Enrique wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:@sig

maybe my suspicion of matt suspecting other people because they suspected him for suspecting SVS but was really just trying to get a reaction is just me trying to get a reaction from other people to see if i can suspect them.

-2.924765 sig

i love this style of gameplay. literally anything i do can be handwaved away for "trying to be game solvey and get a reaction!"

yay for no consequences!

baddie

no u

#112

DrWilgy wrote:If Cobalt doesn't reappear, lynch him.

INH, how long will you take until you begin to policy lynch no shows/wallflowers?

for me it's not really a thing of how long, it's more of a thing I'll do if there aren't any better options.

#113

insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:If Cobalt doesn't reappear, lynch him.

INH, how long will you take until you begin to policy lynch no shows/wallflowers?
for me it's not really a thing of how long, it's more of a thing I'll do if there aren't any better options.

I feel that AoT mafia turned out the way it did because of this mindset. Do you agree or disagree?

#114

DrumBeats wrote:You're a mediocre instrument INH.

My guesses as to what each of the votes could be:

Personnel - Probably a character list, maybe with role or faction info added.

Management - Maybe information about a similar mechanic to the admiral in Golden's game? Michael Scott would be the clear starting manager and it could possibly wind up in the order it did on the show (forget the exact order but remember Jim and Dwight both being in there somewhere)

Memorandum - Some type of reporting or BTSC mechanic maybe?

Personnel seems the most important for now imo

I throw this up to you - it could very well be exactly like yous say.

Or it could be like old skool where the vote = an advantage to a faction. In that case, I"d say -

Personell is civ
Managment is coperate
and memo is the wild card other mafia team.

Or or - this poll don't mean jack but getting people takling.

All 3 of these secnarios are likley - but the way I see it - it's difficult to NOT vote personell.

#115

Quin wrote:Aw, I didn't even consider any actual benefit of what I voted today. I just went off the fact that nothing (to my knowledge) happened with Draconus's game. I think I'll keep my vote on personnel and hope for a role list. Assuming there's BTSC or some other character relationships that we don't know about it might help me assign roles to players.

votes are apparnetly changeale...

#116

DrWilgy wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:If Cobalt doesn't reappear, lynch him.

INH, how long will you take until you begin to policy lynch no shows/wallflowers?
for me it's not really a thing of how long, it's more of a thing I'll do if there aren't any better options.
I feel that AoT mafia turned out the way it did because of this mindset. Do you agree or disagree?

I disagree, because my "logic and facts and stuff over playing with your gut" mindset lead me, the one civilian with a one-time use NK, to suspect and kill you, one of the baddies. You were the only baddie killed the entire game.

So, if anything, AoT just reinforced this mindset for me. Sorry that this wasn't the answer you were fishing for.

#117

I currently like that INH gave me 100 points in the Matt scale.

I currently love that Matt didn't correct him there.

I'm leaning more towards a personell vote - I think I've laid out why - if you see something diffrent that I should notice speak now or forever hold yolur peace

#118

S~V~S wrote:
sig wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:UPDATED RANKINGS

bea +100 cuz she's nice
birdwithteeth11 -1 for showing up out of nowhere
Bullzeye -1 for being scum in my last game
Cobalt +5 because he has a cool name
DFaraday +3 because Jeremy Davies is an underrated actor
Drumbeats 0 drum is a mediocre instrument. I prefer the theremin
DrWilgy +7 for the Danganronpa references
Elohcin +2 because of cake
enrique -2 anyone with the letter q in their name is automatically untrustworthy
Epignosis +1 for disliking David Lynch's Dune
fingersplints 0 i'm really kind of neutral on Mindy Kaling. Wasn't a big fan of her show tbh
Goldy -1 for not being Golden
insertnamehere -10 why won't he reveal his real name? obv scum
leetic -5 hasn't posted an ISO yet, obv scum
LoRab -3 doesn't have a muppet avatar anymore
Matt -1 for reasons stated in a previous post
Quin -1 the letter q rule strikes again
rabbit8 -100 sneaky weaselly wabbit
Scotty -1000 Russell Hantz defender. Do I need to say more?
Serge +1 in apology for Attack on Titan
sig -1 for anime references
Sorsha -1 the three letters "sha" in connection with one another are very suspicious
Spacedaisy +100 cuz she's nice
SVS -5 tildes are the most scummy of symbols
timmer +5 reminds me of the band Timber Timbre
Zeus +100000000 he's the greek god of lightning and shit. I mean, come on!
Is this really necessary? Not only are you making fun of Matt, but you've done so twice now making big wall posts. When even if it is strange he is trying to game solve.

Scotty wrote:+10 points to Gryffindor!

Matt, you're the only one throwing around suspicions, and we're not even into Day 1 yet
I don't like this either, baddies have been caught or at least sniffed out on day 0. So why are you trying to silence Matt and cast suspicion on him.
So suspecting someone is trying to silence them? Where is your outrage for Matt trying to silence me, then (Not that I think he did such a thing, just making a comparison~ I don't think Matt or I are very likely to be silenced by the kind of remarks heard just yet)?

Matt do you think sig is suspect for defending you on Day Zero?

this right here is interesting...

#119

bea wrote:
Quin wrote:Aw, I didn't even consider any actual benefit of what I voted today. I just went off the fact that nothing (to my knowledge) happened with Draconus's game. I think I'll keep my vote on personnel and hope for a role list. Assuming there's BTSC or some other character relationships that we don't know about it might help me assign roles to players.

votes are apparnetly changeale...

Even so, I think personnel is a good vote.

#120

Elohcin wrote: =

I am at the stage in my drinking process.

all so this - good on you eloh!! I so wish keep up,

#121

insertnamehere wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Matt wrote:+1 to SVS for ignoring me as a good civvie should do

-1 to FS and Scotty for rushing to her defense w/o letting her answer first.
Lol so a good civvie should ignore you in general? Got it
That's what I got from Matt's apparent ploy.

Can I just say that I'm totally over people throwing out some random question, other people finding that question suspicious, and then the original person saying that their question was supposed to be suspicious, and because other people reacted to it, they are now suspicious.

It's just BS 99% of the time, and there's no merit to the "bait scum by acting weird" thing at all. Every time I see it used it just seems less and less productive.

But hey, people are gonna play the way they're gonna play. Far be it from me to judge them.

That whole "JK, I was just baiting the real baddies, everything I've said is a lie but I'm totally a civvie" is my least favorite tactic currently in vogue. Civvies are supposed to work together, so deliberately posting false opinions in the thread strikes me as counter-productive to one's supposed allies.

Anyway, I don't see anything suspicious about what SVS originally said, and thus Splints and Scotty helping to clarify that point are also not suspicious for doing so. The only one who looks at all shady here is Matt, but every game I think Matt is suspicious for his weird gameplay, so I don't want to read too much into that just yet.

#122

DFaraday wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Matt wrote:+1 to SVS for ignoring me as a good civvie should do

-1 to FS and Scotty for rushing to her defense w/o letting her answer first.
Lol so a good civvie should ignore you in general? Got it
That's what I got from Matt's apparent ploy.

Can I just say that I'm totally over people throwing out some random question, other people finding that question suspicious, and then the original person saying that their question was supposed to be suspicious, and because other people reacted to it, they are now suspicious.

It's just BS 99% of the time, and there's no merit to the "bait scum by acting weird" thing at all. Every time I see it used it just seems less and less productive.

But hey, people are gonna play the way they're gonna play. Far be it from me to judge them.

That whole "JK, I was just baiting the real baddies, everything I've said is a lie but I'm totally a civvie" is my least favorite tactic currently in vogue. Civvies are supposed to work together, so deliberately posting false opinions in the thread strikes me as counter-productive to one's supposed allies.

Anyway, I don't see anything suspicious about what SVS originally said, and thus Splints and Scotty helping to clarify that point are also not suspicious for doing so. The only one who looks at all shady here is Matt, but every game I think Matt is suspicious for his weird gameplay, so I don't want to read too much into that just yet.

It also kind of feels like an excuse to fall back on when an opinion is presented that backfires. 'Oh, that wasn't my real opinion, it was totally just so I could evoke responses and find someone new to point the finger at'.

I've already forgotten who it was that tried using this tactic. But whoever you are, you should imagine some red-headed 20 year old peering suspiciously at you from outside your window.

#123

Omg I'm so faded rigght noow my friends, but I'm going to reply anyway...

LISTEN.

haha.

So in a recent game by the name of Transistor, I did a similar maneuver at the beginning of the game, I called out niju/Bloops for being the PROCESS and was met with the same criticisms and defenses I've been seeing here.

"Oh snap, why just randomize susses on Day Zero/Day One HOW DARE YOU?"

Then I had to proceed to tell the towwn, honestly, that I was just effin' around and just wanted to get a reaction. Unfortunately, I had to lay this out before niju/BLOOPS even had a chance to respond and when she did, she aleready knew I was effin' aroun d so it was no thin gfor her.

when I lay out a suss, and TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE rush to the defense of said suss WHEN said suss is clearly visible in the thread and can respond for herself, THAT SHIT IS SUSSPICIIIIIIIIIOUS.

I'm not saying Scotty and FS are both bad, but I'm going to give myself a 50% chance that T LEAST one of the two are bad, and I'm guessing it's SPLINTER.

yup.

#124

OH SNAP I forgot to inforrm you good peeps that I was right in my randomness BLOOPS WAS THE PROCESS hahahaha.

So you kow what, all you "How dare you randomize sussers on day one" peeps? Sometimes it isn't a bad thing

#125

bea wrote:
DrumBeats wrote:You're a mediocre instrument INH.

My guesses as to what each of the votes could be:

Personnel - Probably a character list, maybe with role or faction info added.

Management - Maybe information about a similar mechanic to the admiral in Golden's game? Michael Scott would be the clear starting manager and it could possibly wind up in the order it did on the show (forget the exact order but remember Jim and Dwight both being in there somewhere)

Memorandum - Some type of reporting or BTSC mechanic maybe?

Personnel seems the most important for now imo

I throw this up to you - it could very well be exactly like yous say.

Or it could be like old skool where the vote = an advantage to a faction. In that case, I"d say -

Personell is civ
Managment is coperate
and memo is the wild card other mafia team.

Or or - this poll don't mean jack but getting people takling.

All 3 of these secnarios are likley - but the way I see it - it's difficult to NOT vote personell.

What makes you break it down this way; YOU are management where you work, but are definitely not corporate? If this were set up as was the Supermarket game on LP, that would make sense, but it isn't. As Splints pointed out,several mambers of management are on the civ team, based on the pregame roster, which Dom has said has changed. Hell, those may not even be the same teams:

Dom wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Dom wrote:
The Office
There's Been A Murder¡

All powers secret.

Civilians (19):
Michael
Jim
Dwight
Pam
Ryan
Stanley
Phyllis
Andy
Angela
Creed
Kelly
Kevin
Darryl
Meredith
Oscar
Erin
Holly
Toby
Nellie

Corporate (5):
David Wallace
Jo
Jan
Gabe
Robert California

Weirdos + Karen (5):
Packer
Karen
Roy
Moze
Nate

The SCRANTON STRANGLER (1)
I was leaning Personnel, but then I looked in the original submission thread, and there was no role descriptions, but there was a list of roles. So if Personnel = role list, meh. Although it is possible it changed.

Are there also episodes named "Management" or "Memorandum"?

@ Dom Does anyone have info on poll options?
I am going to ignore your question here.

But what I will say is that that role list has changed significantly. I wouldn't trust that. The role list may or may not fill in as time goes on.

I quoted the whole thing since the role list is relevant, and I did not want to spoiler it since half the time people don;t read spoilers

He says that role list is not even valid. So how do you extrapolate who benefits from what option without a valid role list? The teams might not even be the same.

In any case, though, this game is NOT old school, it is a closed set up. So I am still guessing it is info of some kind. Although I will admit that some of the memo voters freaked me out, and a couple of the Personnel as well. So far none of the Management voters really have, and now THAT is starting to freak me out. I am waffled over Personnel; it could be a role list; it could be role secrets that corporate gets about the personnel; we have no idea what it is, unless someone has info, which we don't know.

Hopefully it is a role list, this is vague enough to make it possible. Plus you sound real confident here.

*Changes to "Personnel"*

#126

I will make many posts to invoke responses of anger and vitriol. This post is my excuse for doing. So many of my opinions are absurd or sarcastic and backfire so often I need as many excuses as possible.

#127

#128

Matt wrote:Omg I'm so faded rigght noow my friends

That's what she said. Afterwards, that is.

#129

Matt wrote:Omg I'm so faded rigght noow my friends, but I'm going to reply anyway...

LISTEN.

haha.

So in a recent game by the name of Transistor, I did a similar maneuver at the beginning of the game, I called out niju/Bloops for being the PROCESS and was met with the same criticisms and defenses I've been seeing here.

"Oh snap, why just randomize susses on Day Zero/Day One HOW DARE YOU?"

Then I had to proceed to tell the towwn, honestly, that I was just effin' around and just wanted to get a reaction. Unfortunately, I had to lay this out before niju/BLOOPS even had a chance to respond and when she did, she aleready knew I was effin' aroun d so it was no thin gfor her.

when I lay out a suss, and TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE rush to the defense of said suss WHEN said suss is clearly visible in the thread and can respond for herself, THAT SHIT IS SUSSPICIIIIIIIIIOUS.

I'm not saying Scotty and FS are both bad, but I'm going to give myself a 50% chance that T LEAST one of the two are bad, and I'm guessing it's SPLINTER.

yup.

Where does this leave SVS?

#130

It leaves me confused

#131

S~V~S wrote:It leaves me confused

SVS, let Matt answer the question. Otherwise he'll slur drunken impassioned suspicions at you for defending yourself.

#132

Also hi. Looks like bwt and Goldy have not yet checked in. And Toby.

But no one cares about Toby.

#133

insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:If Cobalt doesn't reappear, lynch him.

INH, how long will you take until you begin to policy lynch no shows/wallflowers?
for me it's not really a thing of how long, it's more of a thing I'll do if there aren't any better options.
I feel that AoT mafia turned out the way it did because of this mindset. Do you agree or disagree?
I disagree, because my "logic and facts and stuff over playing with your gut" mindset lead me, the one civilian with a one-time use NK, to suspect and kill you, one of the baddies. You were the only baddie killed the entire game.

So, if anything, AoT just reinforced this mindset for me. Sorry that this wasn't the answer you were fishing for.

Fishing? Hmm... what would entice you to describe my thinking and questioning as such? I just wanted an answer, and gave my opinion on the matter.

Matt and Bea, if someone were to target you right now, who do you think would do so?

#134

#135

S~V~S wrote:You?

Nah, I'd target you SVS, not Matt or Bea! Silly SVS!

#136

DrWilgy wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:If Cobalt doesn't reappear, lynch him.

INH, how long will you take until you begin to policy lynch no shows/wallflowers?
for me it's not really a thing of how long, it's more of a thing I'll do if there aren't any better options.
I feel that AoT mafia turned out the way it did because of this mindset. Do you agree or disagree?
I disagree, because my "logic and facts and stuff over playing with your gut" mindset lead me, the one civilian with a one-time use NK, to suspect and kill you, one of the baddies. You were the only baddie killed the entire game.

So, if anything, AoT just reinforced this mindset for me. Sorry that this wasn't the answer you were fishing for.
Fishing? Hmm... what would entice you to describe my thinking and questioning as such? I just wanted an answer, and gave my opinion on the matter.

Matt and Bea, if someone were to target you right now, who do you think would do so?

Wait? Wot? Why is someone hypotheically targeting me? I'm confused.

#137

DrWilgy wrote:
S~V~S wrote:You?
Nah, I'd target you SVS, not Matt or Bea! Silly SVS!

Well, since Matt is dancing around me, and I made a pointed post at Bea, my thought there was that you were hoping they would say "SVS". Feels kinda framey to me, tbh. Although kinda too obvious, too.

Are you trying to frame me WIlgy?

#138

S~V~S wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
S~V~S wrote:You?
Nah, I'd target you SVS, not Matt or Bea! Silly SVS!
Well, since Matt is dancing around me, and I made a pointed post at Bea, my thought there was that you were hoping they would say "SVS". Feels kinda framey to me, tbh. Although kinda too obvious, too.

Are you trying to frame me WIlgy?

If you're night killed early, it was probably me...

#139

Aw, you still love me

#140

going with personell in the hopes that it'll give us a role list.

#141

Did not realize this game had started until just now! Going to vote at random here since this seems like a check-in poll.

#142

Matt is my number one suspect. He named two suspects but clung to fingersplints. I say he and Scotty are teammates.

#143

Which folder should you read first?

Poll ended at Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:44 pm

Personell
11
Quin (1), Zeus (3), Scotty (6), Spacedaisy (11), fingersplints (13), DrWilgy (15), Elohcin (20), DrumBeats (21), bea (26), S~V~S (27), insertnamehere (28) 38%
Management
6
Enrique (9), leetic (14), Bullzeye (16), Epignosis (19), Cobalt (22), birdwithteeth11 (29) 21%
Memorandum
8
Sorsha (4), DFaraday (8), timmer (10), Serge (12), Matt (17), sig (18), rabbit8 (23), LoRab (24) 28%
One Direction
4
Dom (2), nijuukyugou (5), Golden (7), Bubbles (25) 14%
Total votes : 29

#144

Episode Zero End

Michael opened up the Personnel Folder-- "Read up folks"

"There's no budget cuts-- no no, none at all!"

Who should we cut?

You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

#145

Dom wrote:
Episode Zero End
Michael opened up the Personnel Folder-- "Read up folks"

"There's no budget cuts-- no no, none at all!"

Who should we cut?

You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

So...that told us nothing?

I want a recount.

Epignosis wrote:Matt is my number one suspect. He named two suspects but clung to fingersplints. I say he and Scotty are teammates.

K.

#146

The front page has been updated.

#147

maybe these polls are going to be a nightly thing, and we'll uncover the roles/mechanics of this game bit by bit?

#148

insertnamehere wrote:maybe these polls are going to be a nightly thing, and we'll uncover the roles/mechanics of this game bit by bit?

this sounds reasonable tbh. if we take stock in the 'which folder should we open first' scenario from before we might open them all by Day 3. But the personnel thing didn't reveal anything so we could just be overthinking it and i could really have just been a check-in poll.

#149

Oh! You gotta vote on the poll to give someone your vote. Axe means against right? Gotta get with the flow and start reading these pages for the love of god!

#150

Quin wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:maybe these polls are going to be a nightly thing, and we'll uncover the roles/mechanics of this game bit by bit?
this sounds reasonable tbh. if we take stock in the 'which folder should we open first' scenario from before we might open them all by Day 3. But the personnel thing didn't reveal anything so we could just be overthinking it and i could really have just been a check-in poll.

Actually, Dom did ultimately update the front page. We now have 3 new roles revealed. And that's it.

I agree with inh that we probably will reveal the game mechanics bit by bit through night polls. Looks like these roles were randomized from the list of employees...

...or maybe it revealed 3 people that voted Personnel? That happen to not be managers (like Michael/Dwight)?

I have no idea what Management would mean. Maybe it reveals the mafia member's roles?

Zeus wrote:Oh! You gotta vote on the poll to give someone your vote. Axe means against right? Gotta get with the flow and start reading these pages for the love of god!

Axe, in this case, means vote out.

Who's getting a pink slip?