The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:09 am Magpie isn't town clearing people or else magpie wouldn't be voting for me today.

So if magpie doesn't think magpie is town clearing people nobody else should think magpie is town clearing people.

And if magpie isn't town clearing people magpie is 3p.

We kill the 3p and then make the mafia thin the herd again. Plan is sound. Let's do it.

Only poison thinks that - and I think she's very likely 3p.

nobody said magpie clears people and that's why they're town

it's about finding magpie because they are on king of the limbs and we have info that's a clean album

PoE says it's spf and that's all there is to it

1 mafia left at f10 and a whole buncho effective clears says no sir stop being a doomsayers.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:11 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:09 am Magpie isn't town clearing people or else magpie wouldn't be voting for me today.

So if magpie doesn't think magpie is town clearing people nobody else should think magpie is town clearing people.

And if magpie isn't town clearing people magpie is 3p.

We kill the 3p and then make the mafia thin the herd again. Plan is sound. Let's do it.

Only poison thinks that - and I think she's very likely 3p.

nobody said magpie clears people and that's why they're town

it's about finding magpie because they are on king of the limbs and we have info that's a clean album

PoE says it's spf and that's all there is to it

If we have no better yeet why not get rid of her then let mafia kill someone to thin the herd?

We have a PoE - Dizzy isn't cleared, neither is Logic, we just yeet there and figure it out after.

Dizzy needs to die.
Juliets needs to die.
Logic needs to die.

I suppose if we yeet spf first we don't have enough yeets to get through those three.

juliets could maybe still be scum but idk -.-

if we hit scum!dizzy here please yeet poison after, assuming game doesn't end

What say we just rand between those three lol

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:14 am if we hit scum!dizzy here please yeet poison after, assuming game doesn't end

You reckon poison has higher 3p chance than spf?

I think between the three logic is marginally better on account of dizzy fucked over Samu and also has been trying more than dya was and also Juliets also seems townier for a bunch of reasons.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:15 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:14 am if we hit scum!dizzy here please yeet poison after, assuming game doesn't end

You reckon poison has higher 3p chance than spf?

Yeah

what kinda town walks into D7, neglects all of their reads and goes

"Yeah magpie prolly town and everyone who said it was probably town"

poison should be more paranoid than that and have more complex reads, she doesn't care for the game

I guess it's not as solid because it's dependent on whether she actually cares about this game as a town but anecdotally speaking ; she should be more engaging here, whereas she's starting to become more and more detached, thinking it's because she's close to reaching her wincon

how did Dizzy out Samu again? can you walk me through that?

[VOTE: logic] aubergine

That's me done bye

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:20 am I used rng for my vote, sorry Long Con

RNG on Day 7? Why? Is that a tradition where you're from?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:10 pmExplain how? Nothing about Samu's role actually makes a lick of sense to me and i don't understand any of his posts.

I can't explain that. But I know for a fact that Samu visited Tutu.

I don't know if he confirmed or just implied it. I don't know why he wouldn't confirm, I've shared it, so it's not a secret. This is why Tutu thinks Samu could be roleblocker.

This isn't what teammate does to teammate

Bonus Mac being clearly not samus partner there too

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:18 am how did Dizzy out Samu again? can you walk me through that?

Dizzy claims he tracked Samu to tutuu and then tutuu said she had been role blocked that night. The only dispute is no one knew up to that point that someone with a protect would find out on their last shot that they were being refunded a block so Dizzy and Samu could have thought the track was a safe one. Hope that makes sense.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:17 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:15 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:14 am if we hit scum!dizzy here please yeet poison after, assuming game doesn't end

You reckon poison has higher 3p chance than spf?

Yeah

what kinda town walks into D7, neglects all of their reads and goes

"Yeah magpie prolly town and everyone who said it was probably town"

poison should be more paranoid than that and have more complex reads, she doesn't care for the game

I guess it's not as solid because it's dependent on whether she actually cares about this game as a town but anecdotally speaking ; she should be more engaging here, whereas she's starting to become more and more detached, thinking it's because she's close to reaching her wincon

Ok I'll buy it

Mafia POE to me right noe is logic and ... logic

3p POE is PC and SPF

Game should be solved here I reckon. I'm pretty confident in having just read how dizzy handled Samu they weren't partners. Pretty confident nobody but SPF or PC is 3p.

fine

[VOTE: logic ] aubergine

Yeah nah youre probs bang on about PC too. Being able to out a mafia role off a n1 action is pretty OP for a town role.

Did dya have any real solid track results that killed a mafia? I do recall them having one that killed a townie lol.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:20 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:20 am I used rng for my vote, sorry Long Con

RNG on Day 7? Why? Is that a tradition where you're from?

Actually it kind of is, we have an in built dice roller and everything

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:39 pm I have godly reads and Dya and Samu are scum.

Thank me later.

More good dizzy shit

Read first two pages of dya ISO and having no trouble seeing a mafia there tbh

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:27 am Did dya have any real solid track results that killed a mafia? I do recall them having one that killed a townie lol.

No results that I saw that killed a mafia but I see to recall some good points and questions that looked towny. I'll read her later this morning and see.

EBWOP: "seem" to recall

JPIC weirdness led to her asking him a couple of random questions she didn't follow up on and then gth villa reading him. Otherwise pushed on only town except nurella who she had as wolf tier but hadn't interacted with or commented on before she said she had the read. Because she didn't have the read she was just going with the sentiment at the time. Because mafia.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:26 am Yeah nah youre probs bang on about PC too. Being able to out a mafia role off a n1 action is pretty OP for a town role.

yeah - feeling good about it

also, read our interaction like a few pages ago although I could misconstrue it

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:32 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:59 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:27 pm I skimmed through a bit. @tedxtr why do you think I'm a 3P? Do you think if I was one and I have the wincon of matching songs, would I be ballsy enough to claim my role likr that instead of making something up?

You don't need to have balls to claim your role if you help the village with it.

Does it really work that way though?

This looks to me exactly like a wifom defence from a 3p angle. She's arguing that her ability isn't actually the way she described it as or doesn't help the village.

Like, what? What is she asking me there? "Does my ability really look that town sided?" lol

It's hard to describe it, it's a way of messing up your entire built thought process in order to refute a single argument because you have TMI

She basically argued against her ability being town sided in order for me to drop my line that pushed a 3p angle on her. Does that make sense?

As a town, how could you possibly put yourself in a 3p's shoes like that? How could you, as a town, argue that your ability is not town sided?

In light of all the flips Dyachei's day one is very bad. She tried very hard to push Nanook. She was scumreading nut without engaging nut at all and then when nut claimed she was quick to accept it should buy her a night pushed nook again, lamented that nobody was moving, said nut was being bussed and didn't even more her vote off nut that she pasted there. No real effort to push her apparent scum read over someone she claimed deserved a night. I'd be surprised if it isn't simply that slot as mafia 5.

And the way she dealt with Sprityo and JPIC was kid gloves too. Totally ignored Samu's entire existence. Most of her posts were surfacey.

actually - don't reply to that

[mention]Poison Chan[/mention] what did you mean with that question? "Does it work like that?" like what were you referring to?

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:31 pm just grabbed some nutella stuff

Spoiler: show

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:01 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:04 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:01 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:58 am Yeah tim if you can’t find multiple mafia D1 are you even trying tbh

all alison was doing is try to be diplomatic and defend oddmerta, "find the wolf buddies" wasnt a proactive request

i mean its not that big a deal but i feel like u posted this as if alison was snarky

No I posted it as if I was snarky

Which I am

town

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:14 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:09 am Mac is scared of my true power. you should be too.

town

these are the only 2 she does this to. what are the chances both are town? pretty low if we consider the claims from overnight tonight. maybe w/v?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:28 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:15 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:14 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:09 am Mac is scared of my true power. you should be too.

town

I don't get this one. Why's this town?

sprityo has a particular energy when he's town and he sometimes gets misread for it but I tend to read him decently. idk if i can explain very well bc it's a tone thing but he's like... has this air of defiant confidence but sort of hesitant/self conscious on the surface

this feels pretty partnery

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:59 pm Solid Town
tutuu
mac
tedxtr
sprityo
samusamu
poison

towny, some paranoia
Alison
DrWilgy
dyachei
Dizzy
Hally
Nanook
Tim
Oddmerta

Null
Colin
Long Con

Wafflin
Herm
Radish
spf

Slight scumlean
Jpic
FP-juliets


hm. I ended up putting more people in paranoia tier than I thought I would

I guess I'm not sure if nutella would put a partner in the lowest area after juliets

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:34 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:01 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:58 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:53 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:52 am What makes you think they have opposite alignments?

this wasnt implied by my post this is ur own thought not mine

i think jpic town and spf scum that all

Okay sure but why is SPF scum

cuz im paranoid of spf's scum game and i dont see her being obv town and i dont find myself nodding along as im reading her posts as i did in her 2 champs games and from my perception shes making simple reads and simple posts and idk maybe im expecting the impossible and im unfair but i think she mafia and kills ppl at night

i'm vibing with tutuu in the exchange with spf about jpic. spf kinda feels like opportunistically pushing on jpic as an easy scumread and maybe he's just lhf town

think spf/jpic are prob w/v either way

but jpic was in her wolf pile. this feels really weird if they're partners? but i dont like what jpic is doing independently in the thread. Why would any cop target mac?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:04 pm Town
Tutuu
Mac
tedxtr
sprityo
samusamu
poison

Lean Town
Alison
Wilgy
dya
hally
nanook
tim

Meh/slight positive
Colin
Dizzy
Radish

Meh/slight negative
Herm
Oddmerta
Jpic
LC

Scum
juliets
spf

even still keeps jpic neg.

idk i think her reads of jpic feel more like she's forgotten where she placed him than of a partner? juliets spewed villa. nanook maybe wolf from this

Pretty bad post on flips and clears coming out of nutella's flip

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:53 pm Town:
hally
mac
alison
juliets

poison
tutuu
spf
MR

Lean town:
odd
drwilgy
samu
ted
colin
tim

Null
dizzy
herm

Lean wolf
nanook
jpic

Has lean town on Samu. Still hasn't mentioned or spoke to Samu. Still pushing Nanook. Blah blah. Just ISO her she's mafia.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:38 am actually - don't reply to that

@Poison Chan what did you mean with that question? "Does it work like that?" like what were you referring to?

also - talk about that x-shot conditional cop role, you never talked about it.

you had n1 and n2 info, something about coming out different.

Nutella did not even blink at Dya having her in her wolf tier.

Just make Poison claim all of her results, she should have a bunch of info on cards that she didn't come out with for whatever reason.

I just built my case on a 3P and at the very end found something that negated my entire argument. I will look at dya/Logic next, probably after my workout.

I received a question about the role Life In a Glasshouse.
No night action is official until the end of the night. The mafia team only sees the final name submitted by Life In a Glasshouse.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:48 am LC is green checked tho

He could be 3P though. I have the following thoughts about that possibility:

1) his original claim that he was vanilla before claiming he was a vote nullifier. I know he says he was high but it still doesn't sit well with me. Can you be so high that you think your role claim says "vanilla town" instead of having an explanation of a role? He claimed vanilla at 1:49, then a pr at 1:51 at the same time saying he would take a look at me and nut, then at 1:56 said he probably forgot his role because it was so weak. How could he take a look at me and nutella if he's so high he can't read his role card? At 2:07 he said nutella should probably be yeeted, which was the truth but how did he evaluate that being so drunk/high? The whole thing just doesn't sit well with me. It seems like a slip.

2) his role claim seems weak. Who does it benefit besides himself? It keeps him from voting for someone but that someone could be town or mafia. I suspect it is a part of his role but not the whole thing. It just doesn't seem on par with the other roles people have claimed.

3) targeted Radishes N3, the night he died

4) I just don't see a lot of townie helpfulness in his posts

5) chose to vote himself (which was a vote for tutuu) after I explained twice - once to him, once to Mac - why tutuu must be town. It was clear cut. He didn't cite any policy chop beliefs, just voted her to "be sure". As I explained to him, it was a sure thing she was not scum or 3P.

The one thing that kept me from thinking he was rogue was that he claimed the album In Rainbows which was on Herm's list as "1 Scum". He only said that though because PC had said the mafia role blocker was on In Rainbows which was true (Samu). But does that mean there weren't any more non-civilians on that album? [mention]Poison Chan[/mention] can you answer this? If you say there are definitely no more non-civilians on In Rainbows then my suspicion here is wrong.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:02 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:48 am LC is green checked tho

He could be 3P though. I have the following thoughts about that possibility:

1) his original claim that he was vanilla before claiming he was a vote nullifier. I know he says he was high but it still doesn't sit well with me. Can you be so high that you think your role claim says "vanilla town" instead of having an explanation of a role? He claimed vanilla at 1:49, then a pr at 1:51 at the same time saying he would take a look at me and nut, then at 1:56 said he probably forgot his role because it was so weak. How could he take a look at me and nutella if he's so high he can't read his role card? At 2:07 he said nutella should probably be yeeted, which was the truth but how did he evaluate that being so drunk/high? The whole thing just doesn't sit well with me. It seems like a slip.

2) his role claim seems weak. Who does it benefit besides himself? It keeps him from voting for someone but that someone could be town or mafia. I suspect it is a part of his role but not the whole thing. It just doesn't seem on par with the other roles people have claimed.

3) targeted Radishes N3, the night he died

4) I just don't see a lot of townie helpfulness in his posts

5) chose to vote himself (which was a vote for tutuu) after I explained twice - once to him, once to Mac - why tutuu must be town. It was clear cut. He didn't cite any policy chop beliefs, just voted her to "be sure". As I explained to him, it was a sure thing she was not scum or 3P.

The one thing that kept me from thinking he was rogue was that he claimed the album In Rainbows which was on Herm's list as "1 Scum". He only said that though because PC had said the mafia role blocker was on In Rainbows which was true (Samu). But does that mean there weren't any more non-civilians on that album? @Poison Chan can you answer this? If you say there are definitely no more non-civilians on In Rainbows then my suspicion here is wrong.

Nah.

I mean like,

1. Not a slip, just remembered wrong for like, a second.
2. Totally agree, my role is the weakest suck role in the game.
3. Me targeting Radishes was the plan. Radishes dying is more likely to be the result of someone like you, planning ahead to set me up.
4. Yeah, I keep meaning to order more but I'm low on cash right now so
5. And I'd do it again.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:17 pm I mean like,

1. Not a slip, just remembered wrong for like, a second.
2. Totally agree, my role is the weakest suck role in the game.
3. Me targeting Radishes was the plan. Radishes dying is more likely to be the result of someone like you, planning ahead to set me up.
4. Yeah, I keep meaning to order more but I'm low on cash right now so
5. And I'd do it again.

If I had planned to set you up I would have come down on that way back when it happened. That is a weak accusation. Also, you've been meaning to order more what? I'm assuming thats a joke I just am not getting at the moment.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:02 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:48 am LC is green checked tho

He could be 3P though. I have the following thoughts about that possibility:

1) his original claim that he was vanilla before claiming he was a vote nullifier. I know he says he was high but it still doesn't sit well with me. Can you be so high that you think your role claim says "vanilla town" instead of having an explanation of a role? He claimed vanilla at 1:49, then a pr at 1:51 at the same time saying he would take a look at me and nut, then at 1:56 said he probably forgot his role because it was so weak. How could he take a look at me and nutella if he's so high he can't read his role card? At 2:07 he said nutella should probably be yeeted, which was the truth but how did he evaluate that being so drunk/high? The whole thing just doesn't sit well with me. It seems like a slip.

2) his role claim seems weak. Who does it benefit besides himself? It keeps him from voting for someone but that someone could be town or mafia. I suspect it is a part of his role but not the whole thing. It just doesn't seem on par with the other roles people have claimed.

3) targeted Radishes N3, the night he died

4) I just don't see a lot of townie helpfulness in his posts

5) chose to vote himself (which was a vote for tutuu) after I explained twice - once to him, once to Mac - why tutuu must be town. It was clear cut. He didn't cite any policy chop beliefs, just voted her to "be sure". As I explained to him, it was a sure thing she was not scum or 3P.

The one thing that kept me from thinking he was rogue was that he claimed the album In Rainbows which was on Herm's list as "1 Scum". He only said that though because PC had said the mafia role blocker was on In Rainbows which was true (Samu). But does that mean there weren't any more non-civilians on that album? @Poison Chan can you answer this? If you say there are definitely no more non-civilians on In Rainbows then my suspicion here is wrong.

Sure maybe, tbh I don’t really care about 3p rn

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:02 am I think we ride or die with all the green checks unless one is still alive at f3.

I think Ted is town too.

Poison Chan has acted as a cop and outed a mafia pr n1.

Dizzy has ok claims.

Ride or die the green checks: I'm all for this plan.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:11 am 1 mafia left at f10 and a whole buncho effective clears says no sir stop being a doomsayers.

Hey! I already said this just before SOD.
Don't you go taking the wind out of my sails!
(Or actually, maybe we need more people pumping up the town, because morale is not where I would think a 10v1(v1?) should be.)

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:32 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:17 pm I mean like,

1. Not a slip, just remembered wrong for like, a second.
2. Totally agree, my role is the weakest suck role in the game.
3. Me targeting Radishes was the plan. Radishes dying is more likely to be the result of someone like you, planning ahead to set me up.
4. Yeah, I keep meaning to order more but I'm low on cash right now so
5. And I'd do it again.

If I had planned to set you up I would have come down on that way back when it happened. That is a weak accusation. Also, you've been meaning to order more what? I'm assuming thats a joke I just am not getting at the moment.

yeah it's a joke like I don't have enough towniness because I didn't stock up come on dude

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:53 pmSure maybe, tbh I don’t really care about 3p rn

I'm not the Rogue anyway. Like, bank on it.

Logic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:11 am 1 mafia left at f10 and a whole buncho effective clears says no sir stop being a doomsayers.

Hey! I already said this just before SOD.
Don't you go taking the wind out of my sails!
(Or actually, maybe we need more people pumping up the town, because morale is not where I would think a 10v1(v1?) should be.)

I sill feel good about things.

As in, of course, I have cool things on my windowsill and I feel good about them.