Lost Again Mafia (Season 2) - Game Over

#151

Ricochet wrote:Why MP, brotha?

He's one of few who hasn't declared his location yet. I'm inclined to believe the baddies would wait until later on so they can go to wherever their target goes.

#152

Considering that there is a 5.3% chance of repeating as a baddie cover role, I'm willing to chance it on Day 1.

#153

Quin wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Why MP, brotha?
He's one of few who hasn't declared his location yet. I'm inclined to believe the baddies would wait until later on so they can go to wherever their target goes.

Can't say I disagree with you there. It's possible that one of the baddies (assuming a 2 or 3-member baddie team exists) would wait until later to claim a location. Then again, they could just make sure to split up early-to-mid day and see which prospects come to either baddie member's locale. We're split pretty evenly right now, so if they split up, then they'll be able to kill whoever they want tonight without much danger of being outed too soon.

On Day 1, they probably won't be too worried about strategy just yet. These short games are notorious for civvies cannibalizing each other early on.

#154

G-Man wrote:
Quin wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Why MP, brotha?
He's one of few who hasn't declared his location yet. I'm inclined to believe the baddies would wait until later on so they can go to wherever their target goes.
Can't say I disagree with you there. It's possible that one of the baddies (assuming a 2 or 3-member baddie team exists) would wait until later to claim a location. Then again, they could just make sure to split up early-to-mid day and see which prospects come to either baddie member's locale. We're split pretty evenly right now, so if they split up, then they'll be able to kill whoever they want tonight without much danger of being outed too soon.

On Day 1, they probably won't be too worried about strategy just yet. These short games are notorious for civvies cannibalizing each other early on.

You know what this talk about baddies waiting or not with the claim location reminds me?

That you haven't claimed location.

#155

Correctamundo. I'm ISO'ing to see who I trust. Crazy Theory #2 is most likely to be that I can't trust players hiding almost exclusively behind roleplay. Interesting that you broke your shtick only a few times to cast shade. There's plenty of shade for you in the tiger pit. Just saying.

#156

G-Man wrote:Correctamundo. I'm ISO'ing to see who I trust. Crazy Theory #2 is most likely to be that I can't trust players hiding almost exclusively behind roleplay. Interesting that you broke your shtick only a few times to cast shade. There's plenty of shade for you in the tiger pit. Just saying.

What shtick, brotha? I'm not the one holding the stick.

I don't see any connection between your #2 and claiming location. Wha are you changing the subject for?

#157

G-Man wrote:Considering that there is a 5.3% chance of repeating as a baddie cover role, I'm willing to chance it on Day 1.

This is the same like, logical fallacy that makes roulette players bet on red after a big string of blacks.

It's like saying I'm more likely to have a baddie role in this game because I've recently had a string of civilian roles.

If the cover roles really are randomly chosen, there's literally no reason to trust DFaraday and Epignosis for being Charlie and Kate.

#158

Come on folks. I'm not clearing them for the whole game, just for today. You make it sound like Day 1's are never haphazard affairs.

As for my location- I will claim it based on whichever site strikes me as being more full of potential civvies. In all likelihood, there's at least one baddie at each spot already but I'm an optimist.

#159

insertnamehere wrote:
G-Man wrote:Considering that there is a 5.3% chance of repeating as a baddie cover role, I'm willing to chance it on Day 1.
This is the same like, logical fallacy that makes roulette players bet on red after a big string of blacks.

It's like saying I'm more likely to have a baddie role in this game because I've recently had a string of civilian roles.

If the cover roles really are randomly chosen, there's literally no reason to trust DFaraday and Epignosis for being Charlie and Kate.

I think I missed a step. Where did we learn that the cover roles were chosen randomly?

#160

G-Man wrote:Correctamundo. I'm ISO'ing to see who I trust. Crazy Theory #2 is most likely to be that I can't trust players hiding almost exclusively behind roleplay. Interesting that you broke your shtick only a few times to cast shade. There's plenty of shade for you in the tiger pit. Just saying.

Have you seen my boy Walt? Do you know who took him?

WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT!!

#161

Checking ISO's is easier when there's a central launching point.

DFaraday
Dom
Elohcin
Epignosis
G-Man
insertnamehere
MovingPictures07
Quin
Ricochet
Scotty
Soneji
Sorsha
Spacedaisy

You're welcome.

#162

@Golden: Are the cover roles chosen randomly?

#163

insertnamehere wrote:@Golden: Are the cover roles chosen randomly?

Can't see why they wouldn't be.

#164

I was pinged somewhat by G-mans early post and his later posts solidify a scum lean on him. Don't think his theories or plans would really be that useful/in town's best interest. He is seemingly overly concerned with his own survival, not really a townie trait. More likely that is just his excuse to delay him picking his location so he can have the ideal spot to kill from.

[VOTE: ] aubergine

#165

So, G-Man, you're waiting until you know which side has the most people you think are civilian to pick a location?

That means you must have a shortlist of dudes you think are good.

Let's hear 'em.

#166

insertnamehere wrote:@Golden: Are the cover roles chosen randomly?

#167

Thanks for your iso lists G-Man - they are now on the front page player list.

#168

Quin wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Why MP, brotha?
He's one of few who hasn't declared his location yet. I'm inclined to believe the baddies would wait until later on so they can go to wherever their target goes.

This is logical. If I don't end up having to save myself then I will vote MP.

I'm also going to start keeping a list of those who go after me on Day 1 and see if they end up bad. I think people think I'm an easy target. It will take several games to determine if this is true and to use this info to find baddies, but I'm too lazy/busy with other things to go back and research other games.

#169

Quin wrote:I don't like anyone who's withheld their location for tonight until the last minute.

Why?

I forgot about it to be honest.

I'll help fulfill my destiny pushing the button. Stay in the hatch.

#170

Dom wrote:Hi all.

I am feeling ill. I will need to rest by the beach for a day or two.

But for real-- I am ill. Please excuse my crabby-ness or subdued play.

How do we feel about G-Man?

Feel better soon!

How do you feel about G-Man?

#171

G-Man wrote:Crazy Theory #1: Charlie, Kate, and Sun were all cover identities for baddies in Season 1. Both Charlie and Kate are roles that have been claimed. I trust these two roles out of the sheer unlikelihood that either one is bad again. That would clear both DFaraday and Epignosis for me. I'd prefer to see more (any?) substantive content from Epi but I find I'm suspicious of him far too often (like I am with S~V~S).

That is crazy.

#172

G-Man wrote:
Quin wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Why MP, brotha?
He's one of few who hasn't declared his location yet. I'm inclined to believe the baddies would wait until later on so they can go to wherever their target goes.
Can't say I disagree with you there. It's possible that one of the baddies (assuming a 2 or 3-member baddie team exists) would wait until later to claim a location. Then again, they could just make sure to split up early-to-mid day and see which prospects come to either baddie member's locale. We're split pretty evenly right now, so if they split up, then they'll be able to kill whoever they want tonight without much danger of being outed too soon.

On Day 1, they probably won't be too worried about strategy just yet. These short games are notorious for civvies cannibalizing each other early on.

I agree with this. In my experience hosting, even active teams don't really talk strategics until Night 1.

#173

insertnamehere wrote:
G-Man wrote:Considering that there is a 5.3% chance of repeating as a baddie cover role, I'm willing to chance it on Day 1.
This is the same like, logical fallacy that makes roulette players bet on red after a big string of blacks.

It's like saying I'm more likely to have a baddie role in this game because I've recently had a string of civilian roles.

If the cover roles really are randomly chosen, there's literally no reason to trust DFaraday and Epignosis for being Charlie and Kate.

I agree with INH here.

#174

Soneji wrote:I was pinged somewhat by G-mans early post and his later posts solidify a scum lean on him. Don't think his theories or plans would really be that useful/in town's best interest. He is seemingly overly concerned with his own survival, not really a townie trait. More likely that is just his excuse to delay him picking his location so he can have the ideal spot to kill from.

[VOTE: ] aubergine

[VOTE:

Elaborate upon this highlighted part please.] aubergine

#175

Let it be known that INH only voted me because my vote was still on him after retracting my suspicion, and specifically prefaced that he'd move it once I moved mine. I moved it almost two hours ago and he's made no indication of doing the same.

#176

Quin wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Why MP, brotha?
He's one of few who hasn't declared his location yet. I'm inclined to believe the baddies would wait until later on so they can go to wherever their target goes.

I could buy this reasoning on Day 2 or later, but I don't think it's a strong enough reasoning for a vote at this point. Why did you choose him over the others who have not declared?

#177

Elohcin wrote:
Quin wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Why MP, brotha?
He's one of few who hasn't declared his location yet. I'm inclined to believe the baddies would wait until later on so they can go to wherever their target goes.
This is logical. If I don't end up having to save myself then I will vote MP.

I'm also going to start keeping a list of those who go after me on Day 1 and see if they end up bad. I think people think I'm an easy target. It will take several games to determine if this is true and to use this info to find baddies, but I'm too lazy/busy with other things to go back and research other games.

So you're willing to vote for me under this logic even though I'm not the last one to declare?

Also, I think that's not going to do you much good. People will suspect you, whether they're mafia looking for a mislynch or townies who actually think you're suspicious. As a townie I have trouble keeping myself from finding you suspicious nearly every game we play together.

#178

Spacedaisy wrote:
Quin wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Why MP, brotha?
He's one of few who hasn't declared his location yet. I'm inclined to believe the baddies would wait until later on so they can go to wherever their target goes.
I could buy this reasoning on Day 2 or later, but I don't think it's a strong enough reasoning for a vote at this point. Why did you choose him over the others who have not declared?

I didn't choose G-Man because I'd found reason to civ read him before now, so he was the only one left. The highlighted sounds like you're implying that my reasoning should be stronger on Day 1 than it should Day 2 or others, so I hope I'm wrong about my interpretation.

#179

I'm writing down names as we speak. Things I need to remember.

#180

I didn't highlight it. Sorry.

'but I don't think it's a strong enough reasoning for a vote at this point'

#181

G-Man wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:I dunno about you guys, but I think Ana, I mean, G-Man's plan could help us out, especially in order to protect guys who say they have, like, power roles that could benefit the civ cause.

I'm willing to give it a shot, and I'm gonna head over to the Hatch tonight. Jack told me to inventory the food, so I'm gonna try and get started on that. Plus, there's a record player.

Anyone seen Jack around? He's been kinda silent lately. Probably just went marching off into the jungle to go save our lives again.
Can't give it much of a shot tonight, seeing as you folks already have us split 5-5:

Beach Bodies
-Dom
-Scotty
-Soneji
-Sorsha
-Spacedaisy

Hatchlings
-DFaraday
-Elohcin
-insertnamehere
-Quin
-Ricochet

Undeclared
-Epignosis
-G-Man
-MovingPictures07

Or if you're the curious type like me...

1. Elohcin- Hatch
2. Quin- Hatch
3. DFaraday- Hatch
4. Scotty- Beach
5. Ricochet- Hatch
6. Soneji- Beach
7. Spacedaisy- Beach
8. Dom- Beach
9. Sorsha- Beach
10. INH- Hatch

I'm going to run some ISO's tonight while I have time. I want to see 1) which of you deserves my vote, and 2) where more people I don't trust are congregating for the night.

If you want to go to the trouble, G-Man, this could do with being narrowed down to specific times as well in future.

#182

Mr. Eko's Prayer/Jesus Stick - Lost Again S2 Rainbow #1

G-Man
insertnamehere
Quin
Spacedaisy

DFaraday
Dom
Elohcin
Epignosis
Ricochet
Scotty
Soneji
Sorsha

#183

Golden

#184

MovingPictures07 wrote:Mr. Eko's Prayer/Jesus Stick - Lost Again S2 Rainbow #1

G-Man
insertnamehere
Quin
Spacedaisy

DFaraday
Dom
Elohcin
Epignosis
Ricochet
Scotty
Soneji
Sorsha

Why do you town read INH?

#185

Quin wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:
Quin wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Why MP, brotha?
He's one of few who hasn't declared his location yet. I'm inclined to believe the baddies would wait until later on so they can go to wherever their target goes.
I could buy this reasoning on Day 2 or later, but I don't think it's a strong enough reasoning for a vote at this point. Why did you choose him over the others who have not declared?
I didn't choose G-Man because I'd found reason to civ read him before now, so he was the only one left. The highlighted sounds like you're implying that my reasoning should be stronger on Day 1 than it should Day 2 or others, so I hope I'm wrong about my interpretation.

I'm sorry but I don't understand what you are saying I am implying. What I was saying is that if it were Day 2 or later, I could see the baddies being strategically trying to place themselves in the same location as a target, but I don't think it is as likely on Day 1 when they are trying to get a feel for everyone just like the civilians are. I'm sure their goal will be to get rid of power roles sooner rather than later, but they have to watch posts and actions to try and see who they think might have a power role just like we do to see who we think is bad. So I think it's more likely that instead of trying to get in place with someone they want to kill, they probably will have at least one in both locations. So I don't see what benefit waiting to declare would be for the baddies on Day 1. Did that make more sense?

#186

Quin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Mr. Eko's Prayer/Jesus Stick - Lost Again S2 Rainbow #1

G-Man
insertnamehere
Quin
Spacedaisy

DFaraday
Dom
Elohcin
Epignosis
Ricochet
Scotty
Soneji
Sorsha
Why do you town read INH?

Nothing amazing, just a gut-based read. He is active and seems genuine.

Plus in another life I just led a d1 mislynch on him, so maybe I'm less apt to vote for him than I should be.

#187

Spacedaisy wrote:
Quin wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:
Quin wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Why MP, brotha?
He's one of few who hasn't declared his location yet. I'm inclined to believe the baddies would wait until later on so they can go to wherever their target goes.
I could buy this reasoning on Day 2 or later, but I don't think it's a strong enough reasoning for a vote at this point. Why did you choose him over the others who have not declared?
I didn't choose G-Man because I'd found reason to civ read him before now, so he was the only one left. The highlighted sounds like you're implying that my reasoning should be stronger on Day 1 than it should Day 2 or others, so I hope I'm wrong about my interpretation.
I'm sorry but I don't understand what you are saying I am implying. What I was saying is that if it were Day 2 or later, I could see the baddies being strategically trying to place themselves in the same location as a target, but I don't think it is as likely on Day 1 when they are trying to get a feel for everyone just like the civilians are. I'm sure their goal will be to get rid of power roles sooner rather than later, but they have to watch posts and actions to try and see who they think might have a power role just like we do to see who we think is bad. So I think it's more likely that instead of trying to get in place with someone they want to kill, they probably will have at least one in both locations. So I don't see what benefit waiting to declare would be for the baddies on Day 1. Did that make more sense?

Yes it does. And I agree. Maybe I'll move my vote back to INH.

#188

Quin, I'm honestly not super invested into this game yet. Can you walk me through your INH suspicion?

#189

G-Man wrote:Correctamundo. I'm ISO'ing to see who I trust. Crazy Theory #2 is most likely to be that I can't trust players hiding almost exclusively behind roleplay. Interesting that you broke your shtick only a few times to cast shade. There's plenty of shade for you in the tiger pit. Just saying.

What is interesting about it?

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom wrote:Hi all.

I am feeling ill. I will need to rest by the beach for a day or two.

But for real-- I am ill. Please excuse my crabby-ness or subdued play.

How do we feel about G-Man?
Feel better soon!

How do you feel about G-Man?

not great

#190

Constrained by dinner prep. My three baddie suspects are:

1. Sorsha
2. Rico
3. MP07

Voting Sorsha for now. Her use of roleplay has resulted in the lowest level of content.

#191

MovingPictures07 wrote:Quin, I'm honestly not super invested into this game yet. Can you walk me through your INH suspicion?

The biggest thing is that he put a vote on me just because my vote was on him. He didn't indicate any suspicion held towards me. He said he'd move it when I either explained why it was still there or moved it, and I did the latter almost immediately. He was still around for a good hour after that but made no indication that his vote was going to move. He's been gone for a while now so I can easily take this as a Day 1 excuse to drop a vote and fade into the background for the rest of the day.

#192

Dom wrote:
G-Man wrote:Correctamundo. I'm ISO'ing to see who I trust. Crazy Theory #2 is most likely to be that I can't trust players hiding almost exclusively behind roleplay. Interesting that you broke your shtick only a few times to cast shade. There's plenty of shade for you in the tiger pit. Just saying.
What is interesting about it?
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom wrote:Hi all.

I am feeling ill. I will need to rest by the beach for a day or two.

But for real-- I am ill. Please excuse my crabby-ness or subdued play.

How do we feel about G-Man?
Feel better soon!

How do you feel about G-Man?
not great

Can you elaborate? What specifically is making you feel that way?

#193

G-Man wrote:Constrained by dinner prep. My three baddie suspects are:

1. Sorsha
2. Rico
3. MP07

Voting Sorsha for now. Her use of roleplay has resulted in the lowest level of content.

I may have missed it, but... why?

#194

Quin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Quin, I'm honestly not super invested into this game yet. Can you walk me through your INH suspicion?
The biggest thing is that he put a vote on me just because my vote was on him. He didn't indicate any suspicion held towards me. He said he'd move it when I either explained why it was still there or moved it, and I did the latter almost immediately. He was still around for a good hour after that but made no indication that his vote was going to move. He's been gone for a while now so I can easily take this as a Day 1 excuse to drop a vote and fade into the background for the rest of the day.

I'm not sure it's enough to compel me that INH is a good d1 vote, but that's fair. Hopefully he can come back soon and answer your concern.

#195

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Quin, I'm honestly not super invested into this game yet. Can you walk me through your INH suspicion?
The biggest thing is that he put a vote on me just because my vote was on him. He didn't indicate any suspicion held towards me. He said he'd move it when I either explained why it was still there or moved it, and I did the latter almost immediately. He was still around for a good hour after that but made no indication that his vote was going to move. He's been gone for a while now so I can easily take this as a Day 1 excuse to drop a vote and fade into the background for the rest of the day.
I'm not sure it's enough to compel me that INH is a good d1 vote, but that's fair. Hopefully he can come back soon and answer your concern.

Do you have a shortlist for your vote today?

#196

Quin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Quin, I'm honestly not super invested into this game yet. Can you walk me through your INH suspicion?
The biggest thing is that he put a vote on me just because my vote was on him. He didn't indicate any suspicion held towards me. He said he'd move it when I either explained why it was still there or moved it, and I did the latter almost immediately. He was still around for a good hour after that but made no indication that his vote was going to move. He's been gone for a while now so I can easily take this as a Day 1 excuse to drop a vote and fade into the background for the rest of the day.
I'm not sure it's enough to compel me that INH is a good d1 vote, but that's fair. Hopefully he can come back soon and answer your concern.
Do you have a shortlist for your vote today?

DFaraday
Dom
Elohcin
Epignosis
Ricochet
Scotty
Soneji
Sorsha

Trying out POE again.

#197

G-Man wrote:Constrained by dinner prep. My three baddie suspects are:

1. Sorsha
2. Rico
3. MP07

Voting Sorsha for now. Her use of roleplay has resulted in the lowest level of content.

I'm an 10% invested in the game at this phase, 90% time-constrained both by stuff that should be visible on this forum and stuff that is not and 150% invested in pushing the button and keeping. us. fuken. alive.

My content reflects that. It still managed to have a ping (on Eloh) and questioning of some players, notably you.

And yet, on the other spectrum, you act so busy and principled and end up voting for low content ratio and still have not provided a location claim, despite closely keeping tabs on all of us.

Hmm.

#198

I hate to break a promise, like how I said I'd inventory and ration out all of the Hatch food, and I just ended up giving it away to everyone, but I'm keeping my vote on Quin for the time being.

I don't like his reasoning for suspecting me, and I don't like his switcharoo over to MP and then back.

He just seems a little desperate to point his finger at someone for what are, in my opinion, kinda arbitrary reasons. It's enough for him to get a Day 1 vote from me.

If I was going to vote for anyone else, it'd probably be G-Man. That weird and obviously wrong logic behind wanting to clear Epi and Faraday (who is confusingly not playing as Faraday) just keeps annoying me, like a piece of cilantro stuck in my teeth.

Then again, he's the dude out here providing the most content, and I think some of his wack-o theories have something to them.

#199

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Soneji wrote:I was pinged somewhat by G-mans early post and his later posts solidify a scum lean on him. Don't think his theories or plans would really be that useful/in town's best interest. He is seemingly overly concerned with his own survival, not really a townie trait. More likely that is just his excuse to delay him picking his location so he can have the ideal spot to kill from.

[VOTE: ] aubergine
[VOTE:

Elaborate upon this highlighted part please.] aubergine

[VOTE:
I did, immediately following the part you bolded. Should get your eyes checked.] aubergine

#200

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom wrote:
G-Man wrote:Correctamundo. I'm ISO'ing to see who I trust. Crazy Theory #2 is most likely to be that I can't trust players hiding almost exclusively behind roleplay. Interesting that you broke your shtick only a few times to cast shade. There's plenty of shade for you in the tiger pit. Just saying.
What is interesting about it?
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom wrote:Hi all.

I am feeling ill. I will need to rest by the beach for a day or two.

But for real-- I am ill. Please excuse my crabby-ness or subdued play.

How do we feel about G-Man?
Feel better soon!

How do you feel about G-Man?
not great
Can you elaborate? What specifically is making you feel that way?

fishing for everyon'es locations
vague suspicions that don't mean anything

Will you run, hide, or die?