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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:23 pm
by ColinIsCool
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:14 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:13 pm
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:11 pm i think ive done enough to show im town outside of my claim?
Well sure, you probably do think that, but I’d like to hear the impressions of the other people.
well whats your impression?
I don’t quite know yet, but I saw you getting touted almost universally as town, realized I didn’t feel that strongly in your favor, and decided to ask about it. I will say the stuff about the claim did feel organic to me when I read it.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:23 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:21 pmidgi
sabie isn't a miller, sabie probably doesn't have access to a miller role card, sabie probably is town, along with all the other stuff

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:23 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I'm getting shot tonight but please let me catch up to Colin in post count before I go

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:24 pm
by Long Con
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:09 pm
Wisp wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:35 pm Funny certainly didn't play her role in an optimal way as town thats for sure. I just find it odd how see ended as the top train when here approach to EoD made no sense from the perspective of a scum, unless she was:

1. Town-siding
2. She is w/w with Con

Given that she was unkillable, pulling the kill away from Con makes sense in that world, but IDK if I really believe that yet
It's inconclusive what she would have done in the last 15 minutes.

In any case she's saving LC from the chop, right?
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:17 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:16 pm
sabie12 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:11 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:08 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:03 pm I think FG is scum someone tell me why
I don't know if this is a "help me justify my gut feeling" post or a legitimate "try to guess my reason" post, but if it's the latter my guess is that she didn't claim it until we wasted D1 on her.

Don't know how to feel about Hally's saying to shoot FG if there is a vig. If that is mafia trying to get vig to shoot town, it is openwolf in a way that doesn't feel very in line with Hally's personality. But I also have respect for Hally's scum range and have never seen her play as scum so I am not very confident in that read. The logic makes sense but I find it really difficult to ask a vig to shoot someone I think is town.
No I have a definite reason, I’m seeing if anyone sees it without prompting cause I might be able to get a soft clear on them if they do lol

It isn’t what you said tho
Do you think this because she claimed to be a miller and also to be unlynchable and that would mean she had multiple powers in one role?
:srsnod: I think Sabie won the soft-clear.
no it's obviously wrong are you a wolf no you're not what is even going on who are the wolves
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:18 pm you were supposed to be a wolf but you're not
I'm sorry dude. I know I'm supposed to be a wolf.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:24 pm
by ColinIsCool
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:23 pm I'm getting shot tonight but please let me catch up to Colin in post count before I go
No!

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:24 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
why is nanook/wisp green

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:25 pm
by Hally
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:23 pm
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:21 pmidgi
sabie isn't a miller, sabie probably doesn't have access to a miller role card, sabie probably is town, along with all the other stuff
oh i get it now

already thought sabie was town

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:25 pm
by ColinIsCool
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:22 pm Complete Blind Interactions

Spoiler: show
Image

Quick notes as time is short:

My primary takeaway from this is that the players generally being trusted the most are also difficult to place on coherent mafia teams. That tells me that the collective effort to form a strong core group and play process of elimination has been effective, and that we aren't in a place where paranoia is wise. There are some isolated "orange" blocks speckled about the non-POE space; this doesn't mean those interactions do or should supersede the POE pool. These are things to be mindful of if the game ever demands it later, and to investigate for yourselves to sort your own feelings. Also note that when there is less content to assess, "yellow" blocks become inherently more likely -- there is simply less material to help me make a determination. This is why you see a lot of that for players like sabie and Spacedaisy.

Stay the course.
Can you remind a dumb dear friend what the colors mean? Asking for, uh, NANOOK

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:25 pm
by Long Con
Reposting with proper quote tag usage:
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:09 pm
Wisp wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:35 pm Funny certainly didn't play her role in an optimal way as town thats for sure. I just find it odd how see ended as the top train when here approach to EoD made no sense from the perspective of a scum, unless she was:

1. Town-siding
2. She is w/w with Con

Given that she was unkillable, pulling the kill away from Con makes sense in that world, but IDK if I really believe that yet
In any case she's saving LC from the chop, right?
It's inconclusive what she would have done in the last 15 minutes.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:17 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:16 pm
sabie12 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:11 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:08 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:03 pm I think FG is scum someone tell me why
I don't know if this is a "help me justify my gut feeling" post or a legitimate "try to guess my reason" post, but if it's the latter my guess is that she didn't claim it until we wasted D1 on her.

Don't know how to feel about Hally's saying to shoot FG if there is a vig. If that is mafia trying to get vig to shoot town, it is openwolf in a way that doesn't feel very in line with Hally's personality. But I also have respect for Hally's scum range and have never seen her play as scum so I am not very confident in that read. The logic makes sense but I find it really difficult to ask a vig to shoot someone I think is town.
No I have a definite reason, I’m seeing if anyone sees it without prompting cause I might be able to get a soft clear on them if they do lol

It isn’t what you said tho
Do you think this because she claimed to be a miller and also to be unlynchable and that would mean she had multiple powers in one role?
:srsnod: I think Sabie won the soft-clear.
no it's obviously wrong are you a wolf no you're not what is even going on who are the wolves
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:18 pm you were supposed to be a wolf but you're not
I'm sorry dude. I know I'm supposed to be a wolf.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:25 pm
by Hally
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:23 pm I'm getting shot tonight but please let me catch up to Colin in post count before I go
why would you get shot

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:26 pm
by Long Con
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:25 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:22 pm Complete Blind Interactions

Spoiler: show
Image

Quick notes as time is short:

My primary takeaway from this is that the players generally being trusted the most are also difficult to place on coherent mafia teams. That tells me that the collective effort to form a strong core group and play process of elimination has been effective, and that we aren't in a place where paranoia is wise. There are some isolated "orange" blocks speckled about the non-POE space; this doesn't mean those interactions do or should supersede the POE pool. These are things to be mindful of if the game ever demands it later, and to investigate for yourselves to sort your own feelings. Also note that when there is less content to assess, "yellow" blocks become inherently more likely -- there is simply less material to help me make a determination. This is why you see a lot of that for players like sabie and Spacedaisy.

Stay the course.
Can you remind a dumb dear friend what the colors mean? Asking for, uh, NANOOK
:rolleyes: That guy is always forgetting stuff. The less green they are, the more teammate-possibly-indicative stuff there is between the two players.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:26 pm
by Hally
jay remind me to look at the interaction stuff if i make it to the other side

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:26 pm
by Epignosis
Alison wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:30 pm
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:27 pm nanook is the reason that fg said there was no flavor reason for her yeetproof?
Bingo
Huh? I thought she said the flavor was that Jack Sparrow could escape out of a tight situation quickly, and that's reflected in being impossible to execute. (I haven't watched Pirates of the Carribean so I don't know if this makes too much sense, but the general gist of the character I've gotten from seeing people talk about it leads me to believe it's a sensical flavor.)
Either Alison is FunnyGirl's teammate or Alison isn't bad.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:27 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:25 pm Can you remind a dumb dear friend what the colors mean? Asking for, uh, NANOOK
Green = I don't think they look very compatible as mafia teammates

Yellow = I have no reason to say they're not compatible as mafia teammates.

Orange = They look like they could be compatible as mafia teammates.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:27 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:24 pm why is nanook/wisp green
mostly Nanook ribbing Wisp for being an arsehole :grin:

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:27 pm
by Hally
Epignosis wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:26 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:30 pm
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:27 pm nanook is the reason that fg said there was no flavor reason for her yeetproof?
Bingo
Huh? I thought she said the flavor was that Jack Sparrow could escape out of a tight situation quickly, and that's reflected in being impossible to execute. (I haven't watched Pirates of the Carribean so I don't know if this makes too much sense, but the general gist of the character I've gotten from seeing people talk about it leads me to believe it's a sensical flavor.)
Either Alison is FunnyGirl's teammate or Alison isn't bad.
why

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:28 pm
by Long Con
Jay is riding this towncore-POE stuff too hard because he knows it gets applause from the upper class. Becauuuuuuse he's a wolf! :grin:

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:28 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:00 pm
sabie12 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:58 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:49 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:36 pm If you would like to make the case that Jay is scum then by all means go ahead but I see townie behavior. While I am loath to simplify his game to a point, he’s a lot quieter as scum, at least in my experience.
Can you recall an example of a game that brings you to this perspective?
I didn't think you were quieter as scum. Not saying I scum read you now but I didn't think your amount of posting had changed.
I ask the question, because I can recall at least one game where "quieter mafia" Jay existed. Mountain Mafia was played during my graduate finals week and I had no time to play. Colin wasn't in that game though, so he'd have to derive the view elsewhere.
might be a perception =/= actuality thing

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:29 pm
by Long Con
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:27 pm
Epignosis wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:26 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:30 pm
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:27 pm nanook is the reason that fg said there was no flavor reason for her yeetproof?
Bingo
Huh? I thought she said the flavor was that Jack Sparrow could escape out of a tight situation quickly, and that's reflected in being impossible to execute. (I haven't watched Pirates of the Carribean so I don't know if this makes too much sense, but the general gist of the character I've gotten from seeing people talk about it leads me to believe it's a sensical flavor.)
Either Alison is FunnyGirl's teammate or Alison isn't bad.
why
Because she hasn't seen Pirates of the Caribbean.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:29 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:27 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:24 pm why is nanook/wisp green
mostly Nanook ribbing Wisp for being an arsehole :grin:
I think NAI but I see your angle

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:29 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:28 pm Jay is riding this towncore-POE stuff too hard because he knows it gets applause from the upper class. Becauuuuuuse he's a wolf! :grin:
or because following The Method to perfection just helped me contribute to the only town sweep in the history of the champs tournament :noble:

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:30 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:11 pm
Spoiler: show
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:30 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:29 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:27 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:39 pm I honestly don't care how many town losses I have to contribute to before I stop getting suspected for my normal playstyle.
This is not “I think Jay is mafia.”

This is “I want Jay dead. Because screw Jay.”
Don't be so egotistical. :hugs: That post is all about me, not you.
You know that chopping me contributes to a town loss.
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:33 pm
Hally wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:15 pm @sprityo i still cant parse the reasoning for your wisp vote. could you clarify?
Wisp’s posts this game have been grating and could’ve accomplished any questions/information they wanted to acquire in a different manner.

The way they went about it made the environment feel more hostile and that takes away from the rational problem solving trying to be accomplished.

You could call it something similar to chaos-mongering. Basically they were inhibiting the town’s ability to function and I see that as a mafia mentality and way of playing
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:56 pm
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:56 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:55 pm Alison has moved *slightly* down for me tbh
why?
She hates angleshooting and what we were doing was fairly close to it
Are... are you angleshooting angleshooting? :grin:
according to people in space invaders, this is called "reverse angleshooting"

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:30 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:29 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:28 pm Jay is riding this towncore-POE stuff too hard because he knows it gets applause from the upper class. Becauuuuuuse he's a wolf! :grin:
or because following The Method to perfection just helped me contribute to the only town sweep in the history of the champs tournament :noble:
jay cares too much about one game is jay wolf

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:31 pm
by Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:29 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:28 pm Jay is riding this towncore-POE stuff too hard because he knows it gets applause from the upper class. Becauuuuuuse he's a wolf! :grin:
or because following The Method to perfection just helped me contribute to the only town sweep in the history of the champs tournament :noble:
Hey, ya got lucky. That's great! :feb: Good luck to you in the future!

I'm just messing around. I do believe you're bad though.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:31 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
the people who look more towny than Jay pool is expanding

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:31 pm
by ColinIsCool
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:30 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:11 pm
Spoiler: show
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:30 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:29 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:27 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:39 pm I honestly don't care how many town losses I have to contribute to before I stop getting suspected for my normal playstyle.
This is not “I think Jay is mafia.”

This is “I want Jay dead. Because screw Jay.”
Don't be so egotistical. :hugs: That post is all about me, not you.
You know that chopping me contributes to a town loss.
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:33 pm
Hally wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:15 pm @sprityo i still cant parse the reasoning for your wisp vote. could you clarify?
Wisp’s posts this game have been grating and could’ve accomplished any questions/information they wanted to acquire in a different manner.

The way they went about it made the environment feel more hostile and that takes away from the rational problem solving trying to be accomplished.

You could call it something similar to chaos-mongering. Basically they were inhibiting the town’s ability to function and I see that as a mafia mentality and way of playing
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:56 pm
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:56 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:55 pm Alison has moved *slightly* down for me tbh
why?
She hates angleshooting and what we were doing was fairly close to it
Are... are you angleshooting angleshooting? :grin:
according to people in space invaders, this is called "reverse angleshooting"
Also known to the French as “shoongleateing”

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:31 pm
by Long Con
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:30 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:11 pm
Spoiler: show
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:30 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:29 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:27 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:39 pm I honestly don't care how many town losses I have to contribute to before I stop getting suspected for my normal playstyle.
This is not “I think Jay is mafia.”

This is “I want Jay dead. Because screw Jay.”
Don't be so egotistical. :hugs: That post is all about me, not you.
You know that chopping me contributes to a town loss.
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:33 pm
Hally wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:15 pm @sprityo i still cant parse the reasoning for your wisp vote. could you clarify?
Wisp’s posts this game have been grating and could’ve accomplished any questions/information they wanted to acquire in a different manner.

The way they went about it made the environment feel more hostile and that takes away from the rational problem solving trying to be accomplished.

You could call it something similar to chaos-mongering. Basically they were inhibiting the town’s ability to function and I see that as a mafia mentality and way of playing
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:56 pm
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:56 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:55 pm Alison has moved *slightly* down for me tbh
why?
She hates angleshooting and what we were doing was fairly close to it
Are... are you angleshooting angleshooting? :grin:
according to people in space invaders, this is called "reverse angleshooting"
Like I believe aliens.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:32 pm
by Epignosis
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:27 pm
Epignosis wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:26 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:30 pm
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:27 pm nanook is the reason that fg said there was no flavor reason for her yeetproof?
Bingo
Huh? I thought she said the flavor was that Jack Sparrow could escape out of a tight situation quickly, and that's reflected in being impossible to execute. (I haven't watched Pirates of the Carribean so I don't know if this makes too much sense, but the general gist of the character I've gotten from seeing people talk about it leads me to believe it's a sensical flavor.)
Either Alison is FunnyGirl's teammate or Alison isn't bad.
why
Alison is defending FunnyGirl reminding us of the latter's character. She doesn't have to do that if she is bad on her own. If she is Funnygirl's teammate, very well, but I don't see it.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:33 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
If I drop dead, I want level heads to rule this thread. Play hard and perhaps even play mean if you must, but never stop listening to one another. Every player, no matter how harshly suspected, deserves a chance to speak for themselves and be heard.

I am confident in Hally and Nanook to run this business. Every single civilian has a role to play though, and you're all crucial to the cause. Never surrender. Okay? Make Papa Jay proud.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:33 pm
by Spacedaisy
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:11 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:10 pm You’ve got more experience with meaningful night polls than I do, I’ll follow your gut on it
I like your idea better. It could amount to the distribution of something, so a split is safe.

It could also be meaningless.
I fell asleep so I just dropped a vote on Jack On because it’s has less votes. Is it just me or are the numbers weird for the poll?

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:33 pm
by Long Con
The FG-flavour-forbidden-tell is rotten at the core, and I really urge those of you in the upper class to think just a little about that. It was a faulty premise, who championed it? Who agreed too easily?

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:33 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:29 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:28 pm Jay is riding this towncore-POE stuff too hard because he knows it gets applause from the upper class. Becauuuuuuse he's a wolf! :grin:
or because following The Method to perfection just helped me contribute to the only town sweep in the history of the champs tournament :noble:
jay cares too much about one game is jay wolf
I have no idea what this means

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:34 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:31 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:30 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:11 pm
Spoiler: show
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:30 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:29 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:27 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:39 pm I honestly don't care how many town losses I have to contribute to before I stop getting suspected for my normal playstyle.
This is not “I think Jay is mafia.”

This is “I want Jay dead. Because screw Jay.”
Don't be so egotistical. :hugs: That post is all about me, not you.
You know that chopping me contributes to a town loss.
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:33 pm
Hally wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:15 pm @sprityo i still cant parse the reasoning for your wisp vote. could you clarify?
Wisp’s posts this game have been grating and could’ve accomplished any questions/information they wanted to acquire in a different manner.

The way they went about it made the environment feel more hostile and that takes away from the rational problem solving trying to be accomplished.

You could call it something similar to chaos-mongering. Basically they were inhibiting the town’s ability to function and I see that as a mafia mentality and way of playing
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:56 pm
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:56 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:55 pm Alison has moved *slightly* down for me tbh
why?
She hates angleshooting and what we were doing was fairly close to it
Are... are you angleshooting angleshooting? :grin:
according to people in space invaders, this is called "reverse angleshooting"
Also known to the French as “shoongleateing”
In six months I'm going to accuse someone in an MU game of shoongleateing and they're going to be so confused

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:34 pm
by Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:33 pm If I drop dead, I want level heads to rule this thread. Play hard and perhaps even play mean if you must, but never stop listening to one another. Every player, no matter how harshly suspected, deserves a chance to speak for themselves and be heard.

I am confident in Hally and Nanook to run this business. Every single civilian has a role to play though, and you're all crucial to the cause. Never surrender. Okay? Make Papa Jay proud.
I would be really disappointed if you died tonight.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:34 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:33 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:29 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:28 pm Jay is riding this towncore-POE stuff too hard because he knows it gets applause from the upper class. Becauuuuuuse he's a wolf! :grin:
or because following The Method to perfection just helped me contribute to the only town sweep in the history of the champs tournament :noble:
jay cares too much about one game is jay wolf
I have no idea what this means
My impression is that you wouldn't be defending your method as "well it worked this one time" if you were town. Or if you were a wolf. My impression must be wrong.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:35 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:33 pm If I drop dead, I want level heads to rule this thread. Play hard and perhaps even play mean if you must, but never stop listening to one another. Every player, no matter how harshly suspected, deserves a chance to speak for themselves and be heard.

I am confident in Hally and Nanook to run this business. Every single civilian has a role to play though, and you're all crucial to the cause. Never surrender. Okay? Make Papa Jay proud.
I would be really disappointed if you died tonight.
town mind set

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:35 pm
by Hally
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:33 pm The FG-flavour-forbidden-tell is rotten at the core, and I really urge those of you in the upper class to think just a little about that. It was a faulty premise, who championed it? Who agreed too easily?
i agree with this actually

wolves have fake roles so i think theyd know about the flavor or lack thereof anyway

fg could have just been telling the truth. NAI tbh

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:35 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Spacedaisy wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:33 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:11 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:10 pm You’ve got more experience with meaningful night polls than I do, I’ll follow your gut on it
I like your idea better. It could amount to the distribution of something, so a split is safe.

It could also be meaningless.
I fell asleep so I just dropped a vote on Jack On because it’s has less votes. Is it just me or are the numbers weird for the poll?
Weird technically, or weird in how people have voted?

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:36 pm
by Long Con
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:35 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:33 pm If I drop dead, I want level heads to rule this thread. Play hard and perhaps even play mean if you must, but never stop listening to one another. Every player, no matter how harshly suspected, deserves a chance to speak for themselves and be heard.

I am confident in Hally and Nanook to run this business. Every single civilian has a role to play though, and you're all crucial to the cause. Never surrender. Okay? Make Papa Jay proud.
I would be really disappointed if you died tonight.
town mind set
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:36 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Alison wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:32 pm

TonyStarkPrime - really did not like the shift off LC EoD and none of their posts have impressed me so far. Scumlean.
I'm sorry I can't think outside of this. what are you talking about? Did you think I was someone else?

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:37 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:33 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:29 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:28 pm Jay is riding this towncore-POE stuff too hard because he knows it gets applause from the upper class. Becauuuuuuse he's a wolf! :grin:
or because following The Method to perfection just helped me contribute to the only town sweep in the history of the champs tournament :noble:
jay cares too much about one game is jay wolf
I have no idea what this means
My impression is that you wouldn't be defending your method as "well it worked this one time" if you were town. Or if you were a wolf. My impression must be wrong.
'This one time"

I have the highest winning percentage on this website for all players with over 20 games.

It works often. It helped drive another sweep in DFS. :biggrin:

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:37 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
this seems like a great game to poe win on day 6

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:37 pm
by Long Con
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:35 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:33 pm The FG-flavour-forbidden-tell is rotten at the core, and I really urge those of you in the upper class to think just a little about that. It was a faulty premise, who championed it? Who agreed too easily?
i agree with this actually

wolves have fake roles so i think theyd know about the flavor or lack thereof anyway

fg could have just been telling the truth. NAI tbh
She can easily be scum Jack Sparrow, and have the same reaction: "Nah, the flavour is obvious."

But if she's not scum, then did scum push the angle?

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:38 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:33 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:29 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:28 pm Jay is riding this towncore-POE stuff too hard because he knows it gets applause from the upper class. Becauuuuuuse he's a wolf! :grin:
or because following The Method to perfection just helped me contribute to the only town sweep in the history of the champs tournament :noble:
jay cares too much about one game is jay wolf
I have no idea what this means
My impression is that you wouldn't be defending your method as "well it worked this one time" if you were town. Or if you were a wolf. My impression must be wrong.
'This one time"

I have the highest winning percentage on this website for all players with over 20 games.

It works often. It helped drive another sweep in DFS. :biggrin:
was that the one I don't remember? no I know it works, it's a good method, all that.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:39 pm
by Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:33 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:29 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:28 pm Jay is riding this towncore-POE stuff too hard because he knows it gets applause from the upper class. Becauuuuuuse he's a wolf! :grin:
or because following The Method to perfection just helped me contribute to the only town sweep in the history of the champs tournament :noble:
jay cares too much about one game is jay wolf
I have no idea what this means
My impression is that you wouldn't be defending your method as "well it worked this one time" if you were town. Or if you were a wolf. My impression must be wrong.
'This one time"

I have the highest winning percentage on this website for all players with over 20 games.

It works often. It helped drive another sweep in DFS. :biggrin:
Hall of Fame should reflect win percentages, not "who played the most games". I'm sure that's a full-time job though.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:39 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
maybe don't vig fg getting unsure

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:39 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Stand by for day start. Please do not post if you have mod ability to post in closed threads.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:49 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Night 1

”I ever tell you how I got this gun, Jack?”

“Not that I can recall, Jack.”

”The old man gave it to me. Gave me a hundred bullets, too.”

“Whatever for?”

”To waste the shit that made me this way.”

“And what way is that?”

”Fucked up. See, the old man gave me a hundred bullets. A hundred untraceable bullets. So I figure…I really only gotta save one.”

The monster pointed his gun at the other and fired.

********************************************************************

In the morning, the incredibly handsome people all approached the crime scene. There was police tape everywhere and the two men in black stopped them from crossing.

“What happened here?”

“Heart attack,” the old man told them. “Could have happened to anyone.”

“I knew that guy. He didn’t seem like the kind to have a heart condition.”

The old man shrugged. “Sometimes these things just happen. Now move along.”

Funnygurl has been nightkilled. They were: ??? Alignment: ???

********************************************************************

The Jacks were shocked at the discovery of a second body. This one’s owner had been crucified, his wrists pinned to the wall with a pair of customer scissors. On the wall, written in the victim’s blood were the words BLOOD LUST.

The collective Jacks mourned the loss of their friend, the great and inspiring.

Nanook has been nightkilled. He was: Jack "Jackie" Robinson from irl. Alignment: Town.

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A note on timing. The day poll will be accurate from now on. The night poll will not. It will be my intention to end and start days at 9 CST and give you roughly 23 hours to submit night actions and 1 hour for me to sort stuff. Since this day is opening 30+ min after that time, I will just shorten my hour to keep things on track.

Day polls are accurate. Nights end as soon after 9 CST as I can manage. Thanks!

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:51 pm
by Hally
rip nanook

so fg was janitored? or had a role that doesnt flip?

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 1)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:52 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:49 pm ??? Alignment: ???
:madmad: