Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]

#2551

sanmateo wrote:edit- i meant to say: "are you certain he is town?"

No, not now.

#2552

What I was saying that JJJ has been leaning town on Bass, and if Jay is town, I trust him.

#2553

I meant this one TH:

Roxy wrote:
Just noticed something quite surprising.

Neither splints nor Roxy voted in that lynch.
I have already told you I was silenced - and btw if you had actually read back you would know that splints was flying from NY to London that day and is the reason she missed the vote. Nice try twisting the truth.

Somehow I had scrolled up to far and copied the link to the post above it.

Turnip Head wrote:Or wait, Roxy was a civvie in Cars. Were you a civvie too, splints?

splints 1.0 and 2.0 were not civvies that game.

#2554

fingersplints wrote:MP right now reminds me of a dog who is so excited he is just peeing all over everything.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Seriously, everyone, G-Man is fucking faking this shit. Let's be honest here.

- If he were cursed, it's highly dubious that it would have taken effect as early as Day 1, before any night actions could be submitted. It also cannot be due to the D0 poll because literally NO ONE else has had this problem, and many others voted the same option as he did.
- There is no apparent role on either the civilian or mafia team that would have to be cursed as such.

If there even is an explanation otherwise that would cause him to be cursed for all 4 cycles, why not Day 0?

If there even is an explanation otherwise that jives with ALL OF THAT, then he would have broken or failed the curse EASILY with his most recent pictures interrogating DDL. I've never seen that unpunished from a host. If I were hosting, that would be a violation.

Therefore, G-Man does not have to post in all pictures.

He is therefore a mafia.

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#2561

G-Man ima have to take your waffle away from you. Name the entire mafia team as you'd call it with a gun to your head.

#2562

You see G-Man now that we know you're capable of expressing more complex thought, this shtick just isn't gonna cut it anymore.

#2563

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:G-Man ima have to take your waffle away from you. Name the entire mafia team as you'd call it with a gun to your head.

#2564

...but isn't solo in the context of teamwork as well? No mafia player is an island. You can't sever the individual from the wider societ- oh wait, this is getting into Radical Marxist Political Terroritory, no? G-Man obviously isn't a radical leftist, he's a neoliberal like the rest of us save two or three, everyone chill.

#2565

G-Man wrote:

Y?

#2566

It's funny how in this game my side is the direct opposite of my political ideology IRL.

#2567

acrosstheaether wrote:...but isn't solo in the context of teamwork as well? No mafia player is an island.

Newpaged

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#2569

Roxy wrote:
Black Rock wrote:How is Gman cursed already?
Idk if it is what is happening here but I play on a lot of different sites and Day 1 curses (in fact all game curses) do exist. Maybe Russ has picked up some new stuff for his game. I played a game where the player could only say 'I am Groot' for the entire game - it was insanity - no smileys or images were allowed.

Roxy wrote: GMan - I feel for ya but you are doing your best to be understood I know we have never had a role like this on The Syndicate but I have seen this type of role plenty of times on other sites. However just bc you have a posting restriction it does not absolve you of being bad so I do look forward to deciphering more of your thoughts.

#2570

G-Man wrote:

You think I'm guilty of groupthink when I've asked about 9000 times more questions and tried to engage players much more than you have?

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#2572

Turnip Head wrote: I clicked that link and couldn't find what you were talking about, so I searched Roxy's "In-topic" in the Cars game, where you say you were both civvies. This is what I found:

Roxy wrote:Yeah there is a lot of little things pinging me but not enough to build any sort of case.
inre: LC, boogs and the little ones.

Roxy wrote:And poss splints but I am horrendous at reading her.

Quite the contrast to her posts here, isn't it?

#2573

G-Man wrote:

Logical fallacy much, G-Man?

#2574

Raise your hand if you actually believe G-Man was able to bypass his "curse" this entire time and yet didn't know it until he just so happened to apply a bunch of heat on DDL when it seemed Rox was about to go down today.

#2575

Oh, also, apparently G-Man's curse includes videos, since his second post ever was actually a Youtube video, not a picture.

#2576

Lastly, I got a bit of a chuckle at Rox painting my posts as "hostile" and isn't sure whether she deserves it. I don't sincerely believe she thinks that, and I'm all the more ready to vote for her, but I'll at least give her a chance to defend herself tonight.

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#2578

Literally every argument made against me in every game ever. It's been done.

Yawn, let's move on. If you actually have something for me to defend against, G-Man, just let me know.

#2579

G-Man, are you allowed to post Vocaroo links? Perhaps you can speak to us your thought processes?

#2580

Why do you suspect Roxy, G? Why DDL?

#2581

MovingPictures07 wrote:Oh, also, apparently G-Man's curse includes videos, since his second post ever was actually a Youtube video, not a picture.

#2582

Turnip Head wrote:Why do you suspect Roxy, G? Why DDL?

#2583

G-Man wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Oh, also, apparently G-Man's curse includes videos, since his second post ever was actually a Youtube video, not a picture.

No, I don't.

By "second post", of course, I am discounting your first real post, where you actually used words.

#2584

acrosstheaether wrote:G-Man, are you allowed to post Vocaroo links? Perhaps you can speak to us your thought processes?

Well, apparently he could post Youtube links, since he did so in his second cursed post ever. Why wouldn't he be able to upload Youtube videos of himself talking?

It's all bullshit. It's because his "curse" is a lie.

#2585

I also strongly believe that aether's interactions today with G-Man will make her look ridiculously bad if G-Man were to flip mafia, and vice versa.

#2586

DDL
sanmateo

Bass
fingersplints
G-Man
Golden 2.0
JJJ
Vompatti

Turnip

aether
G-Man

Roxy

#2587

Ah, damn it, I accidentally left my previous G-Man there.

#2588

MovingPictures07 wrote:
acrosstheaether wrote:G-Man, are you allowed to post Vocaroo links? Perhaps you can speak to us your thought processes?
Well, apparently he could post Youtube links, since he did so in his second cursed post ever. Why wouldn't he be able to upload Youtube videos of himself talking?

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New Rainbow Reads

DDL
sanmateo

Bass
fingersplints
Golden 2.0
JJJ
Vompatti

Turnip

aether
G-Man

Roxy

#2590

G-Man wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
acrosstheaether wrote:G-Man, are you allowed to post Vocaroo links? Perhaps you can speak to us your thought processes?
Well, apparently he could post Youtube links, since he did so in his second cursed post ever. Why wouldn't he be able to upload Youtube videos of himself talking?

Why are you fixating on my one suggestion when it's clear that you've had ways to bypass this "curse" ever since the beginning?

It's not the fact that you could have uploaded Youtube videos the whole time, it's the fact that your second "cursed" post was a Youtube, and ever since you used only pictures.

Not only that, but your posts became suddenly explanatory lately against DDL, with no apparent punishment.

So you're telling me that:
- You were cursed from Day 1 onward (NOT Day 0) so that it effects your entire game's worth of posts
- To post only in pictures and videos
- But those pictures and videos can literally have whatever content in or on them that you want
- And that somehow you knew you could post a video and did so in your second "cursed" post but never did again
- And that somehow you all of a sudden have been able to express much more in your posts than you ever were able to previously
- And that somehow Rox indicated that she KNEW you were cursed

#2591

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Roxy wrote:
Black Rock wrote:How is Gman cursed already?
Idk if it is what is happening here but I play on a lot of different sites and Day 1 curses (in fact all game curses) do exist. Maybe Russ has picked up some new stuff for his game. I played a game where the player could only say 'I am Groot' for the entire game - it was insanity - no smileys or images were allowed.

Roxy wrote: GMan - I feel for ya but you are doing your best to be understood I know we have never had a role like this on The Syndicate but I have seen this type of role plenty of times on other sites. However just bc you have a posting restriction it does not absolve you of being bad so I do look forward to deciphering more of your thoughts.

Does this second post here read the same way as I'm reading it to anyone else?

It's as if she's affirming that she KNOWS such a role exists.

She even says "just bc you have a posting restriction".

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MovingPictures07 wrote:
Roxy wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Roxy wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey Rox, what convinces you that G-Man's posting restriction isn't self-inflicted? Do you think it has to do with his role?
Bc as I said I have seen this type of role many times on other sites. They restriction lasts for the entire game. So yep I think its his role, I have not scoured the first page yet to see which role this restriction could fit. I have seen these type of restrictions on both good and baddie roles. So I hope Gman continues to post his thoughts more often. I do find his picture posts easy to decipher. So personally I do not find him suspicious at this time.

linky I got your Iso right here MP
That's fair enough, but how would Russ and Llama have found out about such a role, since they don't play elsewhere? I mean, I don't disagree with you, I just find it interesting you're so sure it isn't a ploy. It probably isn't, but I'm far from sure.

And lol. That's usually my ISO. But I'm not a this game. Kinda wish I was though. :P
Mostly bc I know a lot of us have been roaming around other sites involved in the Champion Games maybe they were just checking out other sites role types or maybe they looked for some different type roles on the mafiascum wiki - ofc there are many wikis about types of mafia roles - why are you so sure they are so narrow minded that the would not look for or want to try new things? You do know them better than I.
That's fair enough. I just know Russ has been super busy RL and that he built this game mostly pre-Champions and that Llama generally sticks around here, so I am a bit surprised if these two particular hosts used a lot of non-Syndicate conventions, or even any for that matter, in this game.

If G-Man is faking, he's managed to skate by two days completely undiscussed, and may for the foreseeable future, so that's why I keep considering it. That said, I still am not sure that's the case. I just really have no idea what's going on, since I can't think of any scenario that I think is likely to explain his behavior.

Let's not forget this, where Rox continuously defended such a role's existence, despite my logical arguments that such a role is incredibly unlikely, near impossible, to exist under these conditions.

#2593

Roxy and G-Man baddiez4lyfe

#2594

This is almost surefire proof that Roxy and G-Man are teammates, IMO, in combination with the points made against Roxy and considering G-Man's sudden hop to suspecting BR on D3, and now his sudden hop to suspecting Roxy, when he didn't previously (if you don't believe me, go back and look at his picture lists).

#2595

Let me just stress how Roxy's "other games" argument makes no sense.

Russ has not ventured outside of this site for mafia practically EVER. I recruited Russ to mafia because I know him RL from high school.

Llama has only played mafia at RM, a Lostpedia offshoot site, and despite his incredible dedication to making this site great, specifically does not play games at other sites either.

I can't believe I let it go earlier.

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#2597

Are you kidding, G-Man?

Then why the fuck haven't you posted normally?

#2598

Would you believe me if I told you I'll be browsing this thread in a text-based browser?

#2599

I just can't even. I need to go again, folks, and will actually be gone for a while this time, since I have A LOT to get accomplished. I know there's a lot to read so far during D4, but please read Golden and Turnip's thoughts on Roxy, in addition to posts myself and others have made. I firmly believe we should lynch Roxy today, but at this point, I'd also be fine pulling the trigger on G-Man, and to a lesser extent but more confidently than I expressed earlier, aether. I definitely think the key to cracking open the baddie team will come from today's lynch, and, most significantly, from Roxy's lynch.

That said, I eagerly await her defense. It should be good.

#2600

G-Man wrote:

We didn't know you could use words until like 24 hours ago.

Who killed our talkative teddy??