The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:42 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:38 pm anyone who knows Esooa:

should i care about her claiming mafia?

i usually ignore it. i know it means nothing for spf. but i dunno, worth asking

I suppose I don't get to give you my take here even though I probably have better meta on her than anyone.

sure you do. just be ready for the possible universe where i don't heed your read instead of implying i must either be mafia or dumb enough to get stomped by mafia

yknow what mac might actually be right about both esooa and alison and i say this because they both did a particular tell that tickles my tinglies

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:38 pm Honestly I'd think about killing Made as well, based solely off the fact his reads are so wild to me. I don't see any reason to kill the people he listed.

Yassss Queen we’re gonna make this a thing

And fetch

in case y'all forgot, this seems pretty straightforward

@DkKoba I was voting Esooa before. I am not voting Esooa because nobody wants to kill her because she sounds towny sometimes in between openwolfing.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:44 pm yknow what mac might actually be right about both esooa and alison and i say this because they both did a particular tell that tickles my tinglies

what tell is that supposed to be

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:38 pm anyone who knows Esooa:

should i care about her claiming mafia?

i usually ignore it. i know it means nothing for spf. but i dunno, worth asking

Esooa shows a big ego, i know she has a good tone and i think the scum claim is not AI

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:42 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:38 pm anyone who knows Esooa:

should i care about her claiming mafia?

i usually ignore it. i know it means nothing for spf. but i dunno, worth asking

I suppose I don't get to give you my take here even though I probably have better meta on her than anyone.

sure you do. just be ready for the possible universe where i don't heed your read instead of implying i must either be mafia or dumb enough to get stomped by mafia

Esooa will do it either alignment but she loves openwolfing. It's compulsive. She's like a great poker player that prefers to play bad hands and constantly bluff instead of playing tight.

Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:44 pm

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:57 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:27 pm Sia is the greatest pop songwriter to emerge on this side of the millennium to date. Taking arguments.

I only know her Christmad album. Top notch. Townread Joseph.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:18 pmgrogu lc scum

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:31 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:18 pmgrogu lc scum

Hello E, what is lc? I am not scum.

It's ME!! I'm that scum!

I dunno

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:48 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:47 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:46 pm If you're just doing bog standard stuff why're you cagey about your plans?

whats cagey mean

cag·ey
/ˈkājē/
adjective
~ reluctant to give information owing to caution or suspicion.

Nothing

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:30 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:29 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:28 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:39 pm Whether I'm town or scum, Grogu is surely town.

i feel like lc!scum made this post just so that people would look back at it later and wonder what the wifom means, lol

the wording is so sus

not even day 1 and he's anti-spew tbh

Are you saying I'm a real go-getter?

Bats away her prod. Nothing.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:04 am Vote tags!

[ vote ]Esooa[ /vote ]

without the spaces

You can also click the vote button in Full Editor to place the tags.

Lol chooses Esooa to use as his placeholder. Fun.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:31 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:23 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:19 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:18 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:15 am

Is this about that logicless scumslip conclusion from earlier?

That was initially why I suspected you, but I think "gets pressured by Alison/nutella early and then starts saying weird anti spew stuff" is a bad progression for you specifically.

What have you done D0? What are your reads?

You guys pressured me? I don't recall that. I chilled out on Day 0 like a good patriot.

Give me stances on:

- the players in the game (ie. a readslist)

- the idea of a "towncore" that's been floating around

Hmm... okay, well you are obvious scum. Nanook as well. DK is town, Esooa I think I thought was town, Made town, Grogu town, Mac town. JJJ shifty. tutuu pattable. Michelle town, SPF probscum but maybetown.

The idea of a towncore is awful, shoot from the hip, I say!

Next time you want something from me, I expect more politeness. This was a freebie.

Has Esooa as town in his reads. Why? I dunno.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:43 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am I think lc is town

Jeez, don't lose your nerve now!

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:48 pm I need to be honest. I can't read Long Con. I shouldn't fake the confidence and say a number just for the sake of keeping my "image".

Long Con has often times faked frustration as Mafia. It's not a towntell for him.

He has slanked and been active as either alignment. Neither of these things are towntells or scumtells for him.

Actually let me double think on that claim. Have I seen him active as town? @Long Con would you call yourself as active as Town as you are when you are Mafia?

Am I wrong to think that you are more enthusiastic about the game when you are Mafia or 3P compared to when you are Town?

Anyway. Having contrarian or non-contrarian reads is also a thing I've seen him do as either alignments.

I don't think that people realize just how hard/impossible he is to read.

From my personal and subjective point of view, everyone who claims that they can read Long Con with confidence is faking that confidence.

How active I am depends on when we are talking about in the game

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:06 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:03 pm

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:55 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am I think lc is town

this is false, you think lc is mafia

i don't understand the dynamic between you two and cannot tell if/when something is a joke, e.g. this

Ellie doesn't want to let go of an easy town yeet, because if you A-listers are even mostly right about who is town/towncore, then losing a scum such as Ellie in the first Day would be devastating.

I dunno this is nothing to do with Esooa but LC gets all "A-listers" and discrediting us for mind melding as mafia pretty commonly these days when we corner him.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:09 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:40 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:27 pm You are saying Ellie is lying about the amount of games she's played when that's straight up not true

You are her lawyer or what?
What from i wanted an interaction with her was not in english?
Is not like you have a ton of experience yourself and when you jump and stop an interaction not adressed at you accusing someone of bulshitting you have to explain why becasue is not a natural behaviour. And the fact you know her irl is not relevant for the game.

Remember you didn't want to explain earlier how do you perceive the gamestate because allegedly you waited for content, but you can't observe you can stay in your place when the convo is about someone else.

where is your head at?

Sounds to me like Esooa still feels a little responsible for Ellie's Mafia experience, which I would understand.

Oooh defends Esooa lol.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:11 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:56 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:54 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:45 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:40 pm
You are her lawyer or what?
What from i wanted an interaction with her was not in english?
Is not like you have a ton of experience yourself and when you jump and stop an interaction not adressed at you accusing someone of bulshitting you have to explain why becasue is not a natural behaviour. And the fact you know her irl is not relevant for the game.

Remember you didn't want to explain earlier how do you perceive the gamestate because allegedly you waited for content, but you can't observe you can stay in your place when the convo is about someone else.

where is your head at?

you are literally

straight up

lying

about verifiable, numerical, things

for no fucking reason

so I am telling you to stop

I don’t want to stop
I don't lie, i was saying your friend is too bold to be a noob.
That's not lying, is showing my opinion
You can't shot my mouth by being rude.
I want to talk with Ellie, not you.
I have a read for you.

@EllieDelight explain me how you see your game, what alignament was nicer for you to play, and what's your goal when playing.

she ISN'T too bold to be a newb because she is a newb, this is literally factual, it isn't an opinion, it is factually correct that she is new to mafia and you can either acknowledge that or just be factually incorrect

Kind of a compliment, isn't it?

Dunno, this means nothing to me.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:23 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:22 pm I think LC's reads make a lot of sense from his PoV as town and that's a good look too

Why does this make me slightly angry?

Weird. Maybe the first point against them together? I dunno. Fakeable reaction if the anger is derived from him not appreciating her outing herself to save him. Let the tunnel continue!

Yeah it's whatever. They look like teammates to me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:44 am Esooa's LC progression is bad.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:18 pmgrogu lc scum

Day 0 has this consensus opinion that everyone had.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:29 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:28 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:39 pm Whether I'm town or scum, Grogu is surely town.

i feel like lc!scum made this post just so that people would look back at it later and wonder what the wifom means, lol

the wording is so sus

not even day 1 and he's anti-spew tbh

More of dis. So she's like you know, off LC on d0. Important to note that it's SPF pushing this bceause come day 1 Esooa flips perspectives and has SPF mafia and LC as so town she shields him constantly.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am I think lc is town

Day 1. Suddenly LC is town.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:27 pm mac what's your lc read

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:30 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:27 pm mac what's your lc read

I dunno

gth then

I appear and she prompts me to give an LC read. Which is actually a loaded question because I had not long prior posted this...

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:39 pm Hey Jay doesn't LC have to be scum for that read to be valid tho? What does it mean for poor Grogu if LC flips town?

Which heavily indicated that I in fact was humouring LC town. So she made this post specifically to get me to further vocalise that fact. More sheilding of LC.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:37 pm I feel like Omega is threadspewed mafia

imo they're the most likely scum. I think it' s possible Alison is scum and I think if she is it's VERY likely with Spf. I think LC is town because he put effort into giving reads that sounded real when he was the consensus lynch, rather than anti-spew, and because his vt claim isn't what I'd expect in his position as mafia, among other things

Locks onto a read I give, shades Alison along the way. Preflip associates her to SPF. Explains LC townread. Someone fact check how much effort he gave into giving reads. @Esooa what are the "other things".

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:59 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:55 pm realistically, i'm probably never going to vote outside of the pool of LC/grogu/made today. i would be shocked if that pool didn't have at least one mafia.

why not DOOM or ellie

Offers SPF alternative options, random pairing. Mafia do this.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:20 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:16 pm i switched my vote to made because it felt right

but i might switch back

awfully convenient that you're putting Made up for contention to be a wagon when Ellie is gaining traction and LC is losing it

Abrupt shading of SPF (and LC?). Weird gotcha post based on nothing.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:22 pm I think LC's reads make a lot of sense from his PoV as town and that's a good look too

More justification of LC town that is actually nothing.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:47 pm

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:46 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:43 pm

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:42 pm oof if i get baked im gonna be upset, this game is fun. like, cmon guys, we literally have this game solved. if i die that you'll see my reads are right and it just means i can't participate.
and i already said i have a reason for playing different, im just not gonna share it.

how is the game solved? Also you probably should share it considering you're gonna be baked if not lmfao

LC is scum, Michelle is scum. 3rd person will make themselves known.

kinda not feeling either of these scum reads rn

More sheilding of LC when town push him.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:49 pm

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:48 pm esooa, are you scum

yes

Scum claim. Esooa does this as mafia. No I am not joking.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:52 pm

Made wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:51 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:49 pm

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:48 pm esooa, are you scum

yes

Dope! Who are your teammates??

LC Alison

More jokes.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:59 pm Ellie top wagon over LC we did it boys

Sorry about the rand Esooa and Con.

in case y'all forgot, this seems pretty straightforward

you're going to get turbo'ed when I flip town if u ever even accomplish what you're trying to do rn

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:44 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:44 pm yknow what mac might actually be right about both esooa and alison and i say this because they both did a particular tell that tickles my tinglies

what tell is that supposed to be

I aint telling

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:46 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:44 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:44 pm yknow what mac might actually be right about both esooa and alison and i say this because they both did a particular tell that tickles my tinglies

what tell is that supposed to be

I aint telling

ok well it's wrong

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:46 pm

Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:44 pm

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:57 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:27 pm Sia is the greatest pop songwriter to emerge on this side of the millennium to date. Taking arguments.

I only know her Christmad album. Top notch. Townread Joseph.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:18 pmgrogu lc scum

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:31 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:18 pmgrogu lc scum

Hello E, what is lc? I am not scum.

It's ME!! I'm that scum!

I dunno

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:48 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:47 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:46 pm If you're just doing bog standard stuff why're you cagey about your plans?

whats cagey mean

cag·ey
/ˈkājē/
adjective
~ reluctant to give information owing to caution or suspicion.

Nothing

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:30 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:29 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:28 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:39 pm Whether I'm town or scum, Grogu is surely town.

i feel like lc!scum made this post just so that people would look back at it later and wonder what the wifom means, lol

the wording is so sus

not even day 1 and he's anti-spew tbh

Are you saying I'm a real go-getter?

Bats away her prod. Nothing.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:04 am Vote tags!

[ vote ]Esooa[ /vote ]

without the spaces

You can also click the vote button in Full Editor to place the tags.

Lol chooses Esooa to use as his placeholder. Fun.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:31 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:23 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:19 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:18 am
That was initially why I suspected you, but I think "gets pressured by Alison/nutella early and then starts saying weird anti spew stuff" is a bad progression for you specifically.

What have you done D0? What are your reads?

You guys pressured me? I don't recall that. I chilled out on Day 0 like a good patriot.

Give me stances on:

- the players in the game (ie. a readslist)

- the idea of a "towncore" that's been floating around

Hmm... okay, well you are obvious scum. Nanook as well. DK is town, Esooa I think I thought was town, Made town, Grogu town, Mac town. JJJ shifty. tutuu pattable. Michelle town, SPF probscum but maybetown.

The idea of a towncore is awful, shoot from the hip, I say!

Next time you want something from me, I expect more politeness. This was a freebie.

Has Esooa as town in his reads. Why? I dunno.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:43 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am I think lc is town

Jeez, don't lose your nerve now!

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:48 pm I need to be honest. I can't read Long Con. I shouldn't fake the confidence and say a number just for the sake of keeping my "image".

Long Con has often times faked frustration as Mafia. It's not a towntell for him.

He has slanked and been active as either alignment. Neither of these things are towntells or scumtells for him.

Actually let me double think on that claim. Have I seen him active as town? @Long Con would you call yourself as active as Town as you are when you are Mafia?

Am I wrong to think that you are more enthusiastic about the game when you are Mafia or 3P compared to when you are Town?

Anyway. Having contrarian or non-contrarian reads is also a thing I've seen him do as either alignments.

I don't think that people realize just how hard/impossible he is to read.

From my personal and subjective point of view, everyone who claims that they can read Long Con with confidence is faking that confidence.

How active I am depends on when we are talking about in the game

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:06 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:03 pm

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:55 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am I think lc is town

this is false, you think lc is mafia

i don't understand the dynamic between you two and cannot tell if/when something is a joke, e.g. this

Ellie doesn't want to let go of an easy town yeet, because if you A-listers are even mostly right about who is town/towncore, then losing a scum such as Ellie in the first Day would be devastating.

I dunno this is nothing to do with Esooa but LC gets all "A-listers" and discrediting us for mind melding as mafia pretty commonly these days when we corner him.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:09 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:40 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:27 pm You are saying Ellie is lying about the amount of games she's played when that's straight up not true

You are her lawyer or what?
What from i wanted an interaction with her was not in english?
Is not like you have a ton of experience yourself and when you jump and stop an interaction not adressed at you accusing someone of bulshitting you have to explain why becasue is not a natural behaviour. And the fact you know her irl is not relevant for the game.

Remember you didn't want to explain earlier how do you perceive the gamestate because allegedly you waited for content, but you can't observe you can stay in your place when the convo is about someone else.

where is your head at?

Sounds to me like Esooa still feels a little responsible for Ellie's Mafia experience, which I would understand.

Oooh defends Esooa lol.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:11 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:56 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:54 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:45 pm

you are literally

straight up

lying

about verifiable, numerical, things

for no fucking reason

so I am telling you to stop

I don’t want to stop
I don't lie, i was saying your friend is too bold to be a noob.
That's not lying, is showing my opinion
You can't shot my mouth by being rude.
I want to talk with Ellie, not you.
I have a read for you.

@EllieDelight explain me how you see your game, what alignament was nicer for you to play, and what's your goal when playing.

she ISN'T too bold to be a newb because she is a newb, this is literally factual, it isn't an opinion, it is factually correct that she is new to mafia and you can either acknowledge that or just be factually incorrect

Kind of a compliment, isn't it?

Dunno, this means nothing to me.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:23 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:22 pm I think LC's reads make a lot of sense from his PoV as town and that's a good look too

Why does this make me slightly angry?

Weird. Maybe the first point against them together? I dunno. Fakeable reaction if the anger is derived from him not appreciating her outing herself to save him. Let the tunnel continue!

Yeah it's whatever. They look like teammates to me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:44 am Esooa's LC progression is bad.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:18 pmgrogu lc scum

Day 0 has this consensus opinion that everyone had.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:29 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:28 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:39 pm Whether I'm town or scum, Grogu is surely town.

i feel like lc!scum made this post just so that people would look back at it later and wonder what the wifom means, lol

the wording is so sus

not even day 1 and he's anti-spew tbh

More of dis. So she's like you know, off LC on d0. Important to note that it's SPF pushing this bceause come day 1 Esooa flips perspectives and has SPF mafia and LC as so town she shields him constantly.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am I think lc is town

Day 1. Suddenly LC is town.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:27 pm mac what's your lc read

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:30 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:27 pm mac what's your lc read

I dunno

gth then

I appear and she prompts me to give an LC read. Which is actually a loaded question because I had not long prior posted this...

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:39 pm Hey Jay doesn't LC have to be scum for that read to be valid tho? What does it mean for poor Grogu if LC flips town?

Which heavily indicated that I in fact was humouring LC town. So she made this post specifically to get me to further vocalise that fact. More sheilding of LC.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:37 pm I feel like Omega is threadspewed mafia

imo they're the most likely scum. I think it' s possible Alison is scum and I think if she is it's VERY likely with Spf. I think LC is town because he put effort into giving reads that sounded real when he was the consensus lynch, rather than anti-spew, and because his vt claim isn't what I'd expect in his position as mafia, among other things

Locks onto a read I give, shades Alison along the way. Preflip associates her to SPF. Explains LC townread. Someone fact check how much effort he gave into giving reads. @Esooa what are the "other things".

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:59 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:55 pm realistically, i'm probably never going to vote outside of the pool of LC/grogu/made today. i would be shocked if that pool didn't have at least one mafia.

why not DOOM or ellie

Offers SPF alternative options, random pairing. Mafia do this.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:20 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:16 pm i switched my vote to made because it felt right

but i might switch back

awfully convenient that you're putting Made up for contention to be a wagon when Ellie is gaining traction and LC is losing it

Abrupt shading of SPF (and LC?). Weird gotcha post based on nothing.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:22 pm I think LC's reads make a lot of sense from his PoV as town and that's a good look too

More justification of LC town that is actually nothing.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:47 pm

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:46 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:43 pm

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:42 pm oof if i get baked im gonna be upset, this game is fun. like, cmon guys, we literally have this game solved. if i die that you'll see my reads are right and it just means i can't participate.
and i already said i have a reason for playing different, im just not gonna share it.

how is the game solved? Also you probably should share it considering you're gonna be baked if not lmfao

LC is scum, Michelle is scum. 3rd person will make themselves known.

kinda not feeling either of these scum reads rn

More sheilding of LC when town push him.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:49 pm

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:48 pm esooa, are you scum

yes

Scum claim. Esooa does this as mafia. No I am not joking.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:52 pm

Made wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:51 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:49 pm

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:48 pm esooa, are you scum

yes

Dope! Who are your teammates??

LC Alison

More jokes.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:59 pm Ellie top wagon over LC we did it boys

Sorry about the rand Esooa and Con.

in case y'all forgot, this seems pretty straightforward

you're going to get turbo'ed when I flip town if u ever even accomplish what you're trying to do rn

I find it cute how you appropriate all my terms and mannerisms every time we play lol.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:42 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:38 pm anyone who knows Esooa:

should i care about her claiming mafia?

i usually ignore it. i know it means nothing for spf. but i dunno, worth asking

mac addressed this

i saw he said she does it as mafia and i believe that. i'm just wondering to what extent it goes the other way

my internet is shit right now; roommate is in a zoom class. be back later.

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:46 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:46 pm

Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:44 pm

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:57 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:27 pm Sia is the greatest pop songwriter to emerge on this side of the millennium to date. Taking arguments.

I only know her Christmad album. Top notch. Townread Joseph.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:18 pmgrogu lc scum

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:31 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:18 pmgrogu lc scum

Hello E, what is lc? I am not scum.

It's ME!! I'm that scum!

I dunno

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:48 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:47 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:46 pm If you're just doing bog standard stuff why're you cagey about your plans?

whats cagey mean

cag·ey
/ˈkājē/
adjective
~ reluctant to give information owing to caution or suspicion.

Nothing

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:30 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:29 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:28 pm

i feel like lc!scum made this post just so that people would look back at it later and wonder what the wifom means, lol

the wording is so sus

not even day 1 and he's anti-spew tbh

Are you saying I'm a real go-getter?

Bats away her prod. Nothing.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:04 am Vote tags!

[ vote ]Esooa[ /vote ]

without the spaces

You can also click the vote button in Full Editor to place the tags.

Lol chooses Esooa to use as his placeholder. Fun.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:31 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:23 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:19 am

You guys pressured me? I don't recall that. I chilled out on Day 0 like a good patriot.

Give me stances on:

- the players in the game (ie. a readslist)

- the idea of a "towncore" that's been floating around

Hmm... okay, well you are obvious scum. Nanook as well. DK is town, Esooa I think I thought was town, Made town, Grogu town, Mac town. JJJ shifty. tutuu pattable. Michelle town, SPF probscum but maybetown.

The idea of a towncore is awful, shoot from the hip, I say!

Next time you want something from me, I expect more politeness. This was a freebie.

Has Esooa as town in his reads. Why? I dunno.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:43 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am I think lc is town

Jeez, don't lose your nerve now!

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:48 pm I need to be honest. I can't read Long Con. I shouldn't fake the confidence and say a number just for the sake of keeping my "image".

Long Con has often times faked frustration as Mafia. It's not a towntell for him.

He has slanked and been active as either alignment. Neither of these things are towntells or scumtells for him.

Actually let me double think on that claim. Have I seen him active as town? @Long Con would you call yourself as active as Town as you are when you are Mafia?

Am I wrong to think that you are more enthusiastic about the game when you are Mafia or 3P compared to when you are Town?

Anyway. Having contrarian or non-contrarian reads is also a thing I've seen him do as either alignments.

I don't think that people realize just how hard/impossible he is to read.

From my personal and subjective point of view, everyone who claims that they can read Long Con with confidence is faking that confidence.

How active I am depends on when we are talking about in the game

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:06 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:03 pm

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:55 pm
this is false, you think lc is mafia

i don't understand the dynamic between you two and cannot tell if/when something is a joke, e.g. this

Ellie doesn't want to let go of an easy town yeet, because if you A-listers are even mostly right about who is town/towncore, then losing a scum such as Ellie in the first Day would be devastating.

I dunno this is nothing to do with Esooa but LC gets all "A-listers" and discrediting us for mind melding as mafia pretty commonly these days when we corner him.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:09 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:40 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:27 pm You are saying Ellie is lying about the amount of games she's played when that's straight up not true

You are her lawyer or what?
What from i wanted an interaction with her was not in english?
Is not like you have a ton of experience yourself and when you jump and stop an interaction not adressed at you accusing someone of bulshitting you have to explain why becasue is not a natural behaviour. And the fact you know her irl is not relevant for the game.

Remember you didn't want to explain earlier how do you perceive the gamestate because allegedly you waited for content, but you can't observe you can stay in your place when the convo is about someone else.

where is your head at?

Sounds to me like Esooa still feels a little responsible for Ellie's Mafia experience, which I would understand.

Oooh defends Esooa lol.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:11 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:56 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:54 pm
I don’t want to stop
I don't lie, i was saying your friend is too bold to be a noob.
That's not lying, is showing my opinion
You can't shot my mouth by being rude.
I want to talk with Ellie, not you.
I have a read for you.

@EllieDelight explain me how you see your game, what alignament was nicer for you to play, and what's your goal when playing.

she ISN'T too bold to be a newb because she is a newb, this is literally factual, it isn't an opinion, it is factually correct that she is new to mafia and you can either acknowledge that or just be factually incorrect

Kind of a compliment, isn't it?

Dunno, this means nothing to me.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:23 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:22 pm I think LC's reads make a lot of sense from his PoV as town and that's a good look too

Why does this make me slightly angry?

Weird. Maybe the first point against them together? I dunno. Fakeable reaction if the anger is derived from him not appreciating her outing herself to save him. Let the tunnel continue!

Yeah it's whatever. They look like teammates to me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:44 am Esooa's LC progression is bad.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:18 pmgrogu lc scum

Day 0 has this consensus opinion that everyone had.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:29 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:28 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:39 pm Whether I'm town or scum, Grogu is surely town.

i feel like lc!scum made this post just so that people would look back at it later and wonder what the wifom means, lol

the wording is so sus

not even day 1 and he's anti-spew tbh

More of dis. So she's like you know, off LC on d0. Important to note that it's SPF pushing this bceause come day 1 Esooa flips perspectives and has SPF mafia and LC as so town she shields him constantly.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am I think lc is town

Day 1. Suddenly LC is town.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:27 pm mac what's your lc read

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:30 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:27 pm mac what's your lc read

I dunno

gth then

I appear and she prompts me to give an LC read. Which is actually a loaded question because I had not long prior posted this...

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:39 pm Hey Jay doesn't LC have to be scum for that read to be valid tho? What does it mean for poor Grogu if LC flips town?

Which heavily indicated that I in fact was humouring LC town. So she made this post specifically to get me to further vocalise that fact. More sheilding of LC.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:37 pm I feel like Omega is threadspewed mafia

imo they're the most likely scum. I think it' s possible Alison is scum and I think if she is it's VERY likely with Spf. I think LC is town because he put effort into giving reads that sounded real when he was the consensus lynch, rather than anti-spew, and because his vt claim isn't what I'd expect in his position as mafia, among other things

Locks onto a read I give, shades Alison along the way. Preflip associates her to SPF. Explains LC townread. Someone fact check how much effort he gave into giving reads. @Esooa what are the "other things".

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:59 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:55 pm realistically, i'm probably never going to vote outside of the pool of LC/grogu/made today. i would be shocked if that pool didn't have at least one mafia.

why not DOOM or ellie

Offers SPF alternative options, random pairing. Mafia do this.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:20 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:16 pm i switched my vote to made because it felt right

but i might switch back

awfully convenient that you're putting Made up for contention to be a wagon when Ellie is gaining traction and LC is losing it

Abrupt shading of SPF (and LC?). Weird gotcha post based on nothing.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:22 pm I think LC's reads make a lot of sense from his PoV as town and that's a good look too

More justification of LC town that is actually nothing.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:47 pm

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:46 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:43 pm

how is the game solved? Also you probably should share it considering you're gonna be baked if not lmfao

LC is scum, Michelle is scum. 3rd person will make themselves known.

kinda not feeling either of these scum reads rn

More sheilding of LC when town push him.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:49 pm

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:48 pm esooa, are you scum

yes

Scum claim. Esooa does this as mafia. No I am not joking.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:52 pm

Made wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:51 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:49 pm

yes

Dope! Who are your teammates??

LC Alison

More jokes.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:59 pm Ellie top wagon over LC we did it boys

Sorry about the rand Esooa and Con.

in case y'all forgot, this seems pretty straightforward

you're going to get turbo'ed when I flip town if u ever even accomplish what you're trying to do rn

I find it cute how you appropriate all my terms and mannerisms every time we play lol.

didn't realize I was but maybe

I like how Mac is so wrong this game he's trying to say I'm openwolfing when Made is doing literally just that, his recent posts are COMPLETELY contrary to the kind of stances he would take earlier in the day (When his partner wasn't being pressured)

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:42 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:38 pm anyone who knows Esooa:

should i care about her claiming mafia?

i usually ignore it. i know it means nothing for spf. but i dunno, worth asking

I suppose I don't get to give you my take here even though I probably have better meta on her than anyone.

and simultaneously a worse read on me than anyone this game?

Being wrong doesn't scare me.

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:42 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:41 pm mac if ur so sure esooa is scum why wont u vote esooa rn

koba ur actually so annoying lol you literally have <rand ability to read me and you can't realize you should maybe back off yet

You think only people who have meta on you are allowed to read you?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:47 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:42 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:38 pm anyone who knows Esooa:

should i care about her claiming mafia?

i usually ignore it. i know it means nothing for spf. but i dunno, worth asking

mac addressed this

i saw he said she does it as mafia and i believe that. i'm just wondering to what extent it goes the other way

my internet is shit right now; roommate is in a zoom class. be back later.

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

I'm cool with this
[VOTE: LC] aubergine
What is the case for Ellie anyways?

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:48 pm I like how Mac is so wrong this game he's trying to say I'm openwolfing when Made is doing literally just that, his recent posts are COMPLETELY contrary to the kind of stances he would take earlier in the day (When his partner wasn't being pressured)

This is what Esooa does as mafia. Human shields. Its how she defends teammates and its how she defends herself.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:48 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:42 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:38 pm anyone who knows Esooa:

should i care about her claiming mafia?

i usually ignore it. i know it means nothing for spf. but i dunno, worth asking

I suppose I don't get to give you my take here even though I probably have better meta on her than anyone.

and simultaneously a worse read on me than anyone this game?

Being wrong doesn't scare me.

then accept you might be and stop tunneling me cause I defended a person u think is kinda scummy

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:49 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:42 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:41 pm mac if ur so sure esooa is scum why wont u vote esooa rn

koba ur actually so annoying lol you literally have <rand ability to read me and you can't realize you should maybe back off yet

You think only people who have meta on you are allowed to read you?

your response has nothing to do with my post

"Trying to say I'm openwolfing". Biatch you literally said awoo.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:49 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:48 pm I like how Mac is so wrong this game he's trying to say I'm openwolfing when Made is doing literally just that, his recent posts are COMPLETELY contrary to the kind of stances he would take earlier in the day (When his partner wasn't being pressured)

This is what Esooa does as mafia. Human shields. Its how she defends teammates and its how she defends herself.

pushing mafia is what I do as mafia? Attenpting to get mafia lynched is that what I Do now?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:50 pm "Trying to say I'm openwolfing". Biatch you literally said awoo.

awoooo

but I'm town so I'm not wolfing

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:48 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:42 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:38 pm anyone who knows Esooa:

should i care about her claiming mafia?

i usually ignore it. i know it means nothing for spf. but i dunno, worth asking

I suppose I don't get to give you my take here even though I probably have better meta on her than anyone.

and simultaneously a worse read on me than anyone this game?

Being wrong doesn't scare me.

then accept you might be and stop tunneling me cause I defended a person u think is kinda scummy

It may feel to you like I am tunneling but that's just because people keep asking me to explain myself.

fwiw, i saw esooa claim wolf for an extended amount of time and say "awoooo" several times in a game where she was town just a couple of weeks ago. i'm pretty sure that a scumclaim from her is NAI

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:50 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:49 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:48 pm I like how Mac is so wrong this game he's trying to say I'm openwolfing when Made is doing literally just that, his recent posts are COMPLETELY contrary to the kind of stances he would take earlier in the day (When his partner wasn't being pressured)

This is what Esooa does as mafia. Human shields. Its how she defends teammates and its how she defends herself.

pushing mafia is what I do as mafia? Attenpting to get mafia lynched is that what I Do now?

No you appeal to the town to look at the scummy town. That's what you do.

alison town, but the least confident town out of my TRs. has the highest level of deepwolf potential

DOOM is on the outskirts of my POE - has made enough genuine sounding posts that i'm not interested in chopping her today

koba is a townlean - still within their scumrange but generally dont think this is the approach theyd be likely to take if they rand'd scum

ellie can still be mafia. some of her posts are tonally good but her progressions are all over the place and her reads are unclear

esooa is a townlean, but she could be mafia. i'm not interested in chopping esooa today because i think her alignment will become more obvious to me as the day goes on

grogu is a scumlean - hasnt towntold and several of the reads he's outed have reeked of TMI

jagged is town

long con is a scumlean, in my POE, not quite scummy enough for me to definitively lockscum him

macdougall is town

made is in my POE

michelle is a townlean (might actually upgrade her to locktown before long)

nanook is a townlean

tutuu is town

nutella is town

nutella
tutuu
mac
jagged
michelle
nanook
alison
dkkoba
esooa
DOOM
made
LC
ellie
grogu

that's roughly where i'm at right now. i'm peacing out of the thread for a while because the energy is a little tense/stressful and i want to maintain positive vibes and not get bogged down in it

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:52 pm fwiw, i saw esooa claim wolf for an extended amount of time and say "awoooo" several times in a game where she was town just a couple of weeks ago. i'm pretty sure that a scumclaim from her is NAI

this comment from spf is >>>>>>rand town btw

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:52 pm fwiw, i saw esooa claim wolf for an extended amount of time and say "awoooo" several times in a game where she was town just a couple of weeks ago. i'm pretty sure that a scumclaim from her is NAI

Im not suspicious of her for scumclaiming. I am however suspicious that she is now arguing that she wasn't openwolfing when she literally scum claimed. Town can open wolf lol.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:53 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:52 pm fwiw, i saw esooa claim wolf for an extended amount of time and say "awoooo" several times in a game where she was town just a couple of weeks ago. i'm pretty sure that a scumclaim from her is NAI

Im not suspicious of her for scumclaiming. I am however suspicious that she is now arguing that she wasn't openwolfing when she literally scum claimed. Town can open wolf lol.

ok well I don't see it as such when I'm town but wtv

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:52 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:52 pm fwiw, i saw esooa claim wolf for an extended amount of time and say "awoooo" several times in a game where she was town just a couple of weeks ago. i'm pretty sure that a scumclaim from her is NAI

this comment from spf is >>>>>>rand town btw

Lmao. We shall see how you feel about SPF when your agenda needs for you to suspect her.

Here's where I'm at.

DOOM is in the upper POE because they've had one good post and been meh otherwise. They can't be cleared but they're not priority to be exed. I could see their slap fight with tutuu as T/T.

DkKoba is just town because of threadspew and tone, and has been confrontational/contrarian enough despite their comfortable position that I don't see them as either a power wolf or a deep wolf.

Ellie is in the lower POE and there is a chance the wagon on her is entirely pure. She seems like an easy push for mafia to jump on if she is town but I'm not seeing the mafia pile-on. I voted her and there was a cascade of pressure her way, but none of it felt like it was pushing an agenda or were from otherwise suspicious people.

Esooa is town because she's locked on to Ellie/Made in a way that feels very reminiscent of the way she tunnels slots as town. She's also been pushing the line that LC is town and it's a position I'm starting to come around to.

Grogu is in the POE by default.

JJJ is lighter town than before, but still town. He's fallen off slightly in terms of just outputting pure townie content but his attempts to calm Mac down and seek common ground rang as genuine to me.

LC is honestly probably still scummy in a vacuum but I think he tends to give up a lot more when he's caught (which is why I suspected him for anti-spewing earlier) but he's showing fight and claw. I chose between him and Ellie for today's vote and I'm choosing Ellie; I suspect that he'll self-resolve in the coming days based on flips, anyway.

MacDougall is probably town because he's digging himself a hole if he's scum but I don't share Esooa's faith that he can't volume clear himself or have high WIM as scum. He's town for now, but I think his reads are just off and if they keep being off then exe him.

Made has been a scumread of mine the entire day, I haven't been pushing him much because he's been continually townshielded by nook and previously Mac. I'll probably circle back to resolve him D2 or D3, depending on the flip. I agree with Esooa that he has strong partner equity with Ellie based on his posts after the Ellie wagon gained a burst of momentum.

Michelle and SPF are grouped together here because they've both been like, UTR, with unbojectionable reads, and then they have fairly townie tone whenever they pop in so it's hard to be concerned about them. SPF townier than Michelle, I would look here for a deepwolf but I'm going to resolve the big controversies first.

nanook is probably just going to self resolve based on flips sooner or later. I doubt I can read him with any confidence today.

nutella is out of her scumrange so she's just town.

tutuu is not out of her scumrange but she's just generally townie on play and has towntold a bunch, so she's town.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:54 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:52 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:52 pm fwiw, i saw esooa claim wolf for an extended amount of time and say "awoooo" several times in a game where she was town just a couple of weeks ago. i'm pretty sure that a scumclaim from her is NAI

this comment from spf is >>>>>>rand town btw

Lmao. We shall see how you feel about SPF when your agenda needs for you to suspect her.

truuuuuueeee

you don't even wanna know why?

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:46 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:46 pm

Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:44 pm

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:57 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:27 pm Sia is the greatest pop songwriter to emerge on this side of the millennium to date. Taking arguments.

I only know her Christmad album. Top notch. Townread Joseph.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:18 pmgrogu lc scum

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:31 pm

Hello E, what is lc? I am not scum.

It's ME!! I'm that scum!

I dunno

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:48 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:47 pm

whats cagey mean

cag·ey
/ˈkājē/
adjective
~ reluctant to give information owing to caution or suspicion.

Nothing

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:30 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:29 pm

not even day 1 and he's anti-spew tbh

Are you saying I'm a real go-getter?

Bats away her prod. Nothing.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:04 am Vote tags!

[ vote ]Esooa[ /vote ]

without the spaces

You can also click the vote button in Full Editor to place the tags.

Lol chooses Esooa to use as his placeholder. Fun.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:31 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:23 am
Give me stances on:

- the players in the game (ie. a readslist)

- the idea of a "towncore" that's been floating around

Hmm... okay, well you are obvious scum. Nanook as well. DK is town, Esooa I think I thought was town, Made town, Grogu town, Mac town. JJJ shifty. tutuu pattable. Michelle town, SPF probscum but maybetown.

The idea of a towncore is awful, shoot from the hip, I say!

Next time you want something from me, I expect more politeness. This was a freebie.

Has Esooa as town in his reads. Why? I dunno.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:43 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am I think lc is town

Jeez, don't lose your nerve now!

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:48 pm I need to be honest. I can't read Long Con. I shouldn't fake the confidence and say a number just for the sake of keeping my "image".

Long Con has often times faked frustration as Mafia. It's not a towntell for him.

He has slanked and been active as either alignment. Neither of these things are towntells or scumtells for him.

Actually let me double think on that claim. Have I seen him active as town? @Long Con would you call yourself as active as Town as you are when you are Mafia?

Am I wrong to think that you are more enthusiastic about the game when you are Mafia or 3P compared to when you are Town?

Anyway. Having contrarian or non-contrarian reads is also a thing I've seen him do as either alignments.

I don't think that people realize just how hard/impossible he is to read.

From my personal and subjective point of view, everyone who claims that they can read Long Con with confidence is faking that confidence.

How active I am depends on when we are talking about in the game

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:06 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:03 pm

i don't understand the dynamic between you two and cannot tell if/when something is a joke, e.g. this

Ellie doesn't want to let go of an easy town yeet, because if you A-listers are even mostly right about who is town/towncore, then losing a scum such as Ellie in the first Day would be devastating.

I dunno this is nothing to do with Esooa but LC gets all "A-listers" and discrediting us for mind melding as mafia pretty commonly these days when we corner him.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:09 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:40 pm
You are her lawyer or what?
What from i wanted an interaction with her was not in english?
Is not like you have a ton of experience yourself and when you jump and stop an interaction not adressed at you accusing someone of bulshitting you have to explain why becasue is not a natural behaviour. And the fact you know her irl is not relevant for the game.

Remember you didn't want to explain earlier how do you perceive the gamestate because allegedly you waited for content, but you can't observe you can stay in your place when the convo is about someone else.

where is your head at?

Sounds to me like Esooa still feels a little responsible for Ellie's Mafia experience, which I would understand.

Oooh defends Esooa lol.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:11 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:56 pm

she ISN'T too bold to be a newb because she is a newb, this is literally factual, it isn't an opinion, it is factually correct that she is new to mafia and you can either acknowledge that or just be factually incorrect

Kind of a compliment, isn't it?

Dunno, this means nothing to me.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:23 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:22 pm I think LC's reads make a lot of sense from his PoV as town and that's a good look too

Why does this make me slightly angry?

Weird. Maybe the first point against them together? I dunno. Fakeable reaction if the anger is derived from him not appreciating her outing herself to save him. Let the tunnel continue!

Yeah it's whatever. They look like teammates to me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:44 am Esooa's LC progression is bad.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:18 pmgrogu lc scum

Day 0 has this consensus opinion that everyone had.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:29 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:28 pm

i feel like lc!scum made this post just so that people would look back at it later and wonder what the wifom means, lol

the wording is so sus

not even day 1 and he's anti-spew tbh

More of dis. So she's like you know, off LC on d0. Important to note that it's SPF pushing this bceause come day 1 Esooa flips perspectives and has SPF mafia and LC as so town she shields him constantly.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am I think lc is town

Day 1. Suddenly LC is town.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:27 pm mac what's your lc read

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:30 pm

I dunno

gth then

I appear and she prompts me to give an LC read. Which is actually a loaded question because I had not long prior posted this...

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:39 pm Hey Jay doesn't LC have to be scum for that read to be valid tho? What does it mean for poor Grogu if LC flips town?

Which heavily indicated that I in fact was humouring LC town. So she made this post specifically to get me to further vocalise that fact. More sheilding of LC.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:37 pm I feel like Omega is threadspewed mafia

imo they're the most likely scum. I think it' s possible Alison is scum and I think if she is it's VERY likely with Spf. I think LC is town because he put effort into giving reads that sounded real when he was the consensus lynch, rather than anti-spew, and because his vt claim isn't what I'd expect in his position as mafia, among other things

Locks onto a read I give, shades Alison along the way. Preflip associates her to SPF. Explains LC townread. Someone fact check how much effort he gave into giving reads. @Esooa what are the "other things".

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:59 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:55 pm realistically, i'm probably never going to vote outside of the pool of LC/grogu/made today. i would be shocked if that pool didn't have at least one mafia.

why not DOOM or ellie

Offers SPF alternative options, random pairing. Mafia do this.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:20 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:16 pm i switched my vote to made because it felt right

but i might switch back

awfully convenient that you're putting Made up for contention to be a wagon when Ellie is gaining traction and LC is losing it

Abrupt shading of SPF (and LC?). Weird gotcha post based on nothing.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:22 pm I think LC's reads make a lot of sense from his PoV as town and that's a good look too

More justification of LC town that is actually nothing.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:47 pm

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:46 pm

LC is scum, Michelle is scum. 3rd person will make themselves known.

kinda not feeling either of these scum reads rn

More sheilding of LC when town push him.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:49 pm

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:48 pm esooa, are you scum

yes

Scum claim. Esooa does this as mafia. No I am not joking.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:52 pm

Made wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:51 pm

Dope! Who are your teammates??

LC Alison

More jokes.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:59 pm Ellie top wagon over LC we did it boys

Sorry about the rand Esooa and Con.

in case y'all forgot, this seems pretty straightforward

you're going to get turbo'ed when I flip town if u ever even accomplish what you're trying to do rn

I find it cute how you appropriate all my terms and mannerisms every time we play lol.

didn't realize I was but maybe

You definitely do. I noticed it in another game too. Its fine. I'm fun.

Mac if I am scum with Esooa and LC why would we coalesce on Ellie to defend LC when all three of our metas/MOs as scum would involve the two of us ejecting LC out of an airlock and then going deep

Thats weird timing for SPF and Alison to drop carbon copies like that lol.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:55 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:46 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:46 pm

Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:44 pm

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:57 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:38 pm
I only know her Christmad album. Top notch. Townread Joseph.





It's ME!! I'm that scum!

I dunno

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:48 pm

cag·ey
/ˈkājē/
adjective
~ reluctant to give information owing to caution or suspicion.

Nothing

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:30 pm

Are you saying I'm a real go-getter?

Bats away her prod. Nothing.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:04 am Vote tags!

[ vote ]Esooa[ /vote ]

without the spaces

You can also click the vote button in Full Editor to place the tags.

Lol chooses Esooa to use as his placeholder. Fun.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:31 am

Hmm... okay, well you are obvious scum. Nanook as well. DK is town, Esooa I think I thought was town, Made town, Grogu town, Mac town. JJJ shifty. tutuu pattable. Michelle town, SPF probscum but maybetown.

The idea of a towncore is awful, shoot from the hip, I say!

Next time you want something from me, I expect more politeness. This was a freebie.

Has Esooa as town in his reads. Why? I dunno.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:43 pm
Jeez, don't lose your nerve now!



How active I am depends on when we are talking about in the game

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:06 pm

Ellie doesn't want to let go of an easy town yeet, because if you A-listers are even mostly right about who is town/towncore, then losing a scum such as Ellie in the first Day would be devastating.

I dunno this is nothing to do with Esooa but LC gets all "A-listers" and discrediting us for mind melding as mafia pretty commonly these days when we corner him.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:09 pm

Sounds to me like Esooa still feels a little responsible for Ellie's Mafia experience, which I would understand.

Oooh defends Esooa lol.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:11 pm

Kind of a compliment, isn't it?

Dunno, this means nothing to me.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:23 pm

Why does this make me slightly angry?

Weird. Maybe the first point against them together? I dunno. Fakeable reaction if the anger is derived from him not appreciating her outing herself to save him. Let the tunnel continue!

Yeah it's whatever. They look like teammates to me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:44 am Esooa's LC progression is bad.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:18 pmgrogu lc scum

Day 0 has this consensus opinion that everyone had.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:29 pm

not even day 1 and he's anti-spew tbh

More of dis. So she's like you know, off LC on d0. Important to note that it's SPF pushing this bceause come day 1 Esooa flips perspectives and has SPF mafia and LC as so town she shields him constantly.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am I think lc is town

Day 1. Suddenly LC is town.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:27 pm mac what's your lc read

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:31 pm

gth then

I appear and she prompts me to give an LC read. Which is actually a loaded question because I had not long prior posted this...

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:39 pm Hey Jay doesn't LC have to be scum for that read to be valid tho? What does it mean for poor Grogu if LC flips town?

Which heavily indicated that I in fact was humouring LC town. So she made this post specifically to get me to further vocalise that fact. More sheilding of LC.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:38 pm

imo they're the most likely scum. I think it' s possible Alison is scum and I think if she is it's VERY likely with Spf. I think LC is town because he put effort into giving reads that sounded real when he was the consensus lynch, rather than anti-spew, and because his vt claim isn't what I'd expect in his position as mafia, among other things

Locks onto a read I give, shades Alison along the way. Preflip associates her to SPF. Explains LC townread. Someone fact check how much effort he gave into giving reads. @Esooa what are the "other things".

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:59 pm

why not DOOM or ellie

Offers SPF alternative options, random pairing. Mafia do this.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:20 pm

awfully convenient that you're putting Made up for contention to be a wagon when Ellie is gaining traction and LC is losing it

Abrupt shading of SPF (and LC?). Weird gotcha post based on nothing.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:22 pm I think LC's reads make a lot of sense from his PoV as town and that's a good look too

More justification of LC town that is actually nothing.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:47 pm

kinda not feeling either of these scum reads rn

More sheilding of LC when town push him.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:49 pm

yes

Scum claim. Esooa does this as mafia. No I am not joking.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:52 pm
LC Alison

More jokes.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:59 pm Ellie top wagon over LC we did it boys

Sorry about the rand Esooa and Con.

in case y'all forgot, this seems pretty straightforward

you're going to get turbo'ed when I flip town if u ever even accomplish what you're trying to do rn

I find it cute how you appropriate all my terms and mannerisms every time we play lol.

didn't realize I was but maybe

You definitely do. I noticed it in another game too. Its fine. I'm fun.

lmao what did I copy

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:55 pm Mac if I am scum with Esooa and LC why would we coalesce on Ellie to defend LC when all three of our metas/MOs as scum would involve the two of us ejecting LC out of an airlock and then going deep

You're trying to say there is no particular gamestate in which you would choose to try to save a teammate on day 1 of a 3 wolf game?

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:54 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:52 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:52 pm fwiw, i saw esooa claim wolf for an extended amount of time and say "awoooo" several times in a game where she was town just a couple of weeks ago. i'm pretty sure that a scumclaim from her is NAI

this comment from spf is >>>>>>rand town btw

Lmao. We shall see how you feel about SPF when your agenda needs for you to suspect her.

truuuuuueeee

you don't even wanna know why?

i wanna hear why

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:57 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:55 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:46 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:46 pm

Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:44 pm

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:57 am

I dunno



Nothing



Bats away her prod. Nothing.



Lol chooses Esooa to use as his placeholder. Fun.



Has Esooa as town in his reads. Why? I dunno.







I dunno this is nothing to do with Esooa but LC gets all "A-listers" and discrediting us for mind melding as mafia pretty commonly these days when we corner him.



Oooh defends Esooa lol.



Dunno, this means nothing to me.



Weird. Maybe the first point against them together? I dunno. Fakeable reaction if the anger is derived from him not appreciating her outing herself to save him. Let the tunnel continue!

Yeah it's whatever. They look like teammates to me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:44 am Esooa's LC progression is bad.



Day 0 has this consensus opinion that everyone had.



More of dis. So she's like you know, off LC on d0. Important to note that it's SPF pushing this bceause come day 1 Esooa flips perspectives and has SPF mafia and LC as so town she shields him constantly.



Day 1. Suddenly LC is town.





I appear and she prompts me to give an LC read. Which is actually a loaded question because I had not long prior posted this...



Which heavily indicated that I in fact was humouring LC town. So she made this post specifically to get me to further vocalise that fact. More sheilding of LC.



Locks onto a read I give, shades Alison along the way. Preflip associates her to SPF. Explains LC townread. Someone fact check how much effort he gave into giving reads. @Esooa what are the "other things".



Offers SPF alternative options, random pairing. Mafia do this.



Abrupt shading of SPF (and LC?). Weird gotcha post based on nothing.



More justification of LC town that is actually nothing.



More sheilding of LC when town push him.



Scum claim. Esooa does this as mafia. No I am not joking.



More jokes.



Sorry about the rand Esooa and Con.

in case y'all forgot, this seems pretty straightforward

you're going to get turbo'ed when I flip town if u ever even accomplish what you're trying to do rn

I find it cute how you appropriate all my terms and mannerisms every time we play lol.

didn't realize I was but maybe

You definitely do. I noticed it in another game too. Its fine. I'm fun.

lmao what did I copy

A lot of the way you fire snark at people are like templates mac posts. Also I use the term turboed a lot more than most.

i shifted my vote to ellie, and i'm gonna leave it that way for a while and see how it feels. ciao

Here's one.

Esooa is a compulsive saver of wolf teammates. She outs herself to save teammates. Its a pattern.

If LC dies. She gets chained. You have no choice.

We still have time, so I'm moving to Made and seeing where others want to settle on

ppl talkng about esooa being mafia but the votes aint happening big fucking THINKER

So everyone wants to vote ellie because if LC is bad, we'll find out soon? that's kinda screwy to do to a new player.

someone please make the case to me

I am actually not sure Esooa has bussed a teammate in mafia ever? Have you ever bussed someone Esooa?

Mac u can know I'm town here cause I'm not trying to gaslight people into not believing meta you have on me which you can't prove

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:00 pm ppl talkng about esooa being mafia but the votes aint happening big fucking THINKER

Its literally just me isn't it.

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:00 pm Mac u can know I'm town here cause I'm not trying to gaslight people into not believing meta you have on me which you can't prove

Interesting postulation.

What's your Alison read?