JaggedJimmyJay wrote:i'll try again Epi, just in case my points were unclear.
1. Whether there is a cop in this game is irrelevant. There could be, and there are almost certainly some kinds of power roles. When a vanilla civilian provides "cop cover", he or she attracts a night kill thereby protecting the cop or any other non-vanilla civilians.
Or it inadvertently narrows down the list of people the mafia should kill. I don't want to get into a debate with you about how these setups work- you have far more experience than I do. Your turf. That isn't the issue. The issue is that you were the only one to claim anything, and then a few other people piped in when you bitched about nobody providing you any cover. That's not how it works, usually, does it?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
2. sig's very own posts display a consciousness of cop cover. That's plenty of evidence on its own to suggest he might have had the intent to provide cover himself. Moreover, his staunch refutations of my peeks may have made it look like he had the power to make peeks instead, thus rendering my claim doubtful. That's the proposed method of cover.
I don't agree. sig initially seemed confused, and even accused you of being bad, but then sig's posts after you corrected him about mechanics were weak if they were intentional covering. That's my entire point. sig never once made
me think he was successfully covering for anybody, let alone any actual cop himself, and you are the only person who has said you thought sig actually could have been the cop.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
3. That his understanding of a cop role differed from mine has no logical bearing on whether he meant to provide cover. You keep bringing this up and it's still irrelevant.
We went over this last night. Hopefully people understand my position, so here it is again: If you are trying to provide cover,
then looking ignorant of what the cop does doesn't accomplish that.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
4. That I waited until his death to express my thought that he might be providing cover is a product of not wanting to expose him -- I thought he might actually be a cop. His cover was solid whether he intended it or not.
I think you killed him. Of course you thought he was the cop. You were the only one really bothering about peeks, and complained when nobody was generating any cover. You flushed sig out and killed him.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
5. Wilgy associating us as team mates is not sufficient motive for a night kill. If my gambit is to green peek sig as a baddie, I'm smart enough to realize that some people might find that curious and associate the two of us -- especially in this culture where that is foreign. So to say I killed him because I wanted to break that theory is to say I didn't think my peek through in the first place. I'm a very calculated baddie.
This is moot.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
6. Killing him does not earn me town credit either (nobody is rushing to hand me any as you can see). Because of our association, any kill on sig is by default going to draw scrutiny to me.
I don't think you had that much scrunity until I brought it.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Where is my logic faulty?
Finding mafia isn't about finding who is using faulty logic. Most of the time, it's the civilians.