Civilians (9)
Win Con: The Inmates and Moloch the Mystic are Dead. Be alive.
Bernard the News Vendor
He posts his unsolicited opinions in the thread via the Host.
Joey the Cab Driver
She purchases a Hustler magazine from Bernard each Night; during this time, she tells Bernard the name of a person she isn’t.
Derf
This Knot-Head intimidates someone each Night, silencing that person and making him unable to vote the next Day.
Hollis Mason
The first Nite Owl can use one of his successor’s utilities one time only.
Sally Jupiter
The first Silk Spectre will snoop around her daughter’s personal life; if her target has had BTSC with Laurie, Sally will learn the role of the target.
Dr. Malcolm Long
Walter’s psychoanalyst, in attempting to convince Rorschach that there are good people in the world, can each Night remove someone’s name from the list of people Rorschach needs dead to win.
Janey Slater
Dr. Manhattan’s ex will search each Night for Dr. Manhattan. If she finds him, she learns his identity and his secrets.
Detective Steven Fine
Tracks on Odd Nights. Bourquin gets the result too.
Detective Joe Bourquin
Tracks on Even Nights. Fine gets the result too.
Watchmen (6) Unlike the Civilians, Watchmen have superior abilities, but have an additional win condition. Also, unlike the Civilians, Watchmen do not need to be alive at the end to win.
Walter Kovacs / Rorschach "The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, 'Save us!" And I'll look down and whisper, 'No.'"
Whenever a civilian or Watchman is lynched, Rorschach will investigate, and track one of the guilty voters on odd Nights. On even Nights, he may choose to kill or spare the person he tracked.
Win Con: Rorschach does not compromise with evil. Anyone who participates in a civilian or Watchman lynch must be dead for Rorschach to win.
Danny Dreiberg / Nite Owl II “What happened to us? What happened to the American Dream?”
Nite Owl has an impressive array of technological wonders at his disposal. He can:
Apply his advanced polygraph to lie detect one statement.
Use his sonic amplifier to deliver an anonymous message to the thread through the Host.
Reinforce his owl suit to protect himself.
Activate a projectile shield to protect someone else.
Airlift from the immediate area, taking all but four people off the poll.
Scan the perimeter and make an alignment check.
These may only be used once.
Win Con: Nite Owl needs Hollis Mason alive to win. If Hollis Mason is dead, then he needs Derf dead.
Laurie Juspeczyk / Silk Spectre II “I used to be a masked avenger too, remember... I mean, I’m used to going out at three in the morning and doing something stupid.”
The Silk Spectre will gain temporary BTSC with her target. Her target must claim a role. She cannot gain BTSC with Rorschach, whom she despises. She starts off knowing who her mother Sally is.
Win Con: The Silk Spectre must correctly identify Nite Owl II, Dr. Manhattan, and The Comedian before the end. She can begin with a cold guess, and may update her list at any time until either she is dead or endgame.
Edward Blake / The Comedian “Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the Comedian is the only thing that makes sense.”
Has one Night kill.
Win Con: Get Night Killed.
Jon Osterman / Dr. Manhattan “Everything is preordained. Even my responses.”
*Secrets*
Win Con: Presence
Adrian Veidt / Ozymandias “Do it? Dan, I’m not a Republic Serial villain. Do you seriously think I’d explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago.”
Using his vast wealth and intellect, Veidt can manipulate many things. *Secrets*
Win Con: ???
The Inmates (3) Has BTSC
Kills each Night.
Win Con: Must eliminate the Civilians, the Watchmen, and Moloch the Mystic.
Big Figure
Intimidates someone, buying that person's silence and preventing him or her from voting the next Day. Inherits the kill from Larry or Mike if either of them are dead.
Lawrence
Blocks on Odd Nights. Kills on Even Nights.
Michael
Blocks on Even Nights. Kills on Odd Nights.
Moloch (1) ???
Win Con: Last man standing...maybe.
Edgar Jacobi / Moloch the Mystic *Secrets*
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:51 pm
by Epignosis
The Rules
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"What's wrong? What do you mean what's wrong? Turn on your radio."
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:03 am
by Golden
First
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:05 am
by Golden
I just want to warn you all that I'm pretty sure G-Man wants to kill me and I find this highly suspect.
His ass would be better served helping me make a lot of rainbow lists.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:05 am
by Scotty
I don't know about you guys, but I'm thinking of investigating the Comedian's .
Whatever that is, it sounds pretty vague.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:08 am
by Golden
Oh Epi, any chance to pedal some 'Nosis music.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:22 am
by Marmot
I was unable to self-vote in the current poll.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:24 am
by Scotty
Awww, you changed the poll after I voted, Epi! Now I don't know if I wanted to vote for the Comedian's [Gun]. Sounds strangely perverted.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:24 am
by Sloonei
Hello friends, what brings you here this evening?
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:25 am
by Golden
MM is already recycling smilies
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:26 am
by Sloonei
I wish to read this thing again
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:26 am
by Epignosis
Scotty wrote:Awww, you changed the poll after I voted, Epi! Now I don't know if I wanted to vote for the Comedian's [Gun]. Sounds strangely perverted.
That was a typographic error on my part. I apologize.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:26 am
by Marmot
Scotty wrote:Awww, you changed the poll after I voted, Epi! Now I don't know if I wanted to vote for the Comedian's [Gun]. Sounds strangely perverted.
Maybe it's a blue gun?
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:28 am
by Marmot
Golden wrote:MM is already recycling smilies
I recycle anything and everything.
Sorry if my jokes get old after awhile.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:32 am
by Scotty
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Scotty wrote:Awww, you changed the poll after I voted, Epi! Now I don't know if I wanted to vote for the Comedian's [Gun]. Sounds strangely perverted.
Maybe it's a blue gun?
Oh god.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:37 am
by espers
hey guys. looking forward to playing with y'all. particularly Golden and Metalmarsh whose talents i recently saw firsthand.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:42 am
by Marmot
espers wrote:hey guys. looking forward to playing with y'all. particularly Golden and Metalmarsh whose talents i recently saw firsthand.
I worry about your mafia skills if you describe me as having talent.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:42 am
by Golden
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
espers wrote:hey guys. looking forward to playing with y'all. particularly Golden and Metalmarsh whose talents i recently saw firsthand.
I worry about your mafia skills if you describe me as having talent.
He didn't describe the specific qualities of your talent. It's open to interpretation.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:51 am
by Marmot
Golden wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
espers wrote:hey guys. looking forward to playing with y'all. particularly Golden and Metalmarsh whose talents i recently saw firsthand.
I worry about your mafia skills if you describe me as having talent.
He didn't describe the specific qualities of your talent. It's open to interpretation.
I'm also egotistic, so I deliberately misinterpreted his post.
Where's that Day 1 poll? Gotta put my vote on Golden already.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:55 am
by Scotty
espers wrote:hey guys. looking forward to playing with y'all. particularly Golden and Metalmarsh whose talents i recently saw firsthand.
Hello random pirate penguin!
linki- are we doing a Golden Day 1 lynch? Is that what we're doing?
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:59 am
by Scotty
Same question to you, Golden.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:02 am
by Golden
Scotty wrote:Same question to you, Golden.
Depends who you ask.
If you ask G-Man, MM, or ricochet, they will probably say yes.
If you ask me, I will say I do not think that would be a good idea for the town. So it's lucky you did ask me!
They are just mad because I've fooled them twice as mafia on this site. But I hope they don't forget that my two other wins here (and recent one at RYM) my civ skills were also pretty helpful.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:04 am
by nijuukyugou
Yay game! Hello, people I know and people I haven't met yet
I'm going with Rorschach's Journal because it's used throughout the novel in different ways for important things (I do love a good motif/symbol) and because Rorschach is the most badass
And now I want to read this again really badly, too.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:06 am
by Marmot
Golden wrote:
Scotty wrote:Same question to you, Golden.
Depends who you ask.
If you ask G-Man, MM, or ricochet, they will probably say yes.
If you ask me, I will say I do not think that would be a good idea for the town. So it's lucky you did ask me!
They are just mad because I've fooled them twice as mafia on this site. But I hope they don't forget that my two other wins here (and recent one at RYM) my civ skills were also pretty helpful.
Both times you have been bad on this site, I've voted for you on Day 1.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:08 am
by Golden
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Golden wrote:
Scotty wrote:Same question to you, Golden.
Depends who you ask.
If you ask G-Man, MM, or ricochet, they will probably say yes.
If you ask me, I will say I do not think that would be a good idea for the town. So it's lucky you did ask me!
They are just mad because I've fooled them twice as mafia on this site. But I hope they don't forget that my two other wins here (and recent one at RYM) my civ skills were also pretty helpful.
Both times you have been bad on this site, I've voted for you on Day 1.
And one of those times, you got me lynched, and I was civilian...
And you killing me so early enabled me to sub into the bad team.
I voted for Ozy's office. I don't remember the comic so well because it's been about 6 years, but I feel like I remember him being the kind to put on a great front and hide things. I think there might be things to find in that office.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:11 am
by Sloonei
espers is a fellow RYMer but I don't believe we've ever actually played together.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:24 am
by espers
^that's correct.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:48 am
by Golden
Alanis senses the irony here.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:01 am
by timmer
Welcome all, let us all cherish a game based on one of the most brilliant stories ever! But first homie needs to rest his weary and bruised body. Kickboxing at 39 years old can suck sometimes.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:42 am
by espers
Golden wrote:Alanis senses the irony here.
who's Alanis?
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:53 am
by Golden
espers wrote:
Golden wrote:Alanis senses the irony here.
who's Alanis?
The song in which Alanis Morissette sees irony in all sorts of things where there is none.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:20 am
by espers
fair enough. I've heard of her of course but I don't think I've ever knowingly heard a song by her.
I've never been in a game with a day 0 before, do we know how long it lasts? do we go straight into day 1 when it ends?
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:44 am
by Golden
espers wrote:fair enough. I've heard of her of course but I don't think I've ever knowingly heard a song by her.
I've never been in a game with a day 0 before, do we know how long it lasts? do we go straight into day 1 when it ends?
It will last until the poll ends - poll closing time is written just above the poll. If you go into user control settings, you can set the clock so that it matches your time zone.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:05 am
by tessepia
Greetings Citizens!
I will be your Moderator for this game. If you have issues or complaints; if you have uncontrollable rage or a sense of unfairness; if you think someone is picking on you for personal reasons; if you just want to vent ... you should contact me, rather than spilling it in the thread.
I will be happy to offer a slap on the wrist or a pat on the back as the case may be.
Good Luck and have a fun game
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:35 am
by Golden
I thought I was Mooby.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:02 am
by tessepia
You were one amongst many who borrowed my lifeforce for a time. The Glory that is Mooby cannot be contained in one person
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:04 am
by Golden
Mooby wrote:You were one amongst many who borrowed my lifeforce for a time. The Glory that is Mooby cannot be contained in one person
They call you the golden calf for a reason
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:42 am
by G-Man
Golden wrote:I just want to warn you all that I'm pretty sure G-Man wants to kill me and I find this highly suspect.
His ass would be better served helping me make a lot of rainbow lists.
Wow, you're not even going to be subtle and sneaky with me this time? Perhaps that's because you have reason to be afraid this game. Taking a joke from pre-game and trying to use it to cast shade on me looks pretty cheap and bad. Golden the Coward indeed.
I intend to keep my rainbow lists to myself from now on, unless they point to an obvious baddie. Sticking my neck out got me killed in Biblical and Guess Who, so maybe I should revert to cryptic and mysterious. That served me well enough in Economics.
espers wrote:hey guys. looking forward to playing with y'all. particularly Golden and Metalmarsh whose talents i recently saw firsthand.
Then you obviously know that he can be a devious, crafty wretch and is worthy of being lynched on Day 1.
Scotty wrote:
espers wrote:hey guys. looking forward to playing with y'all. particularly Golden and Metalmarsh whose talents i recently saw firsthand.
Hello random pirate penguin!
linki- are we doing a Golden Day 1 lynch? Is that what we're doing?
I was only kidding around in pre-game but since Golden chose to bring that into the game to stir crap up against me, I may be inclined to follow this course of action.
Golden wrote:
Scotty wrote:Same question to you, Golden.
Depends who you ask.
If you ask G-Man, MM, or ricochet, they will probably say yes.
If you ask me, I will say I do not think that would be a good idea for the town. So it's lucky you did ask me!
They are just mad because I've fooled them twice as mafia on this site. But I hope they don't forget that my two other wins here (and recent one at RYM) my civ skills were also pretty helpful.
"Fooled" is hardly the case. The manipulative rat fink played me like a sucker in Guess Who by using my vote analysis against me to provide himself some darn good cover. His cunning and guile were apparent in Economics only at the end of the game. But he was really just lucky in that game because he subbed back into a cushy spot. He also proved himself a coward in that game- never forget! Both of these sins wash away all the good feelings built up during Biblical when we were the dynamic duo of Goldie-Lot and Ass Man. In retrospect, he was probably just using me to do all the vote analysis work for him after I died.
espers wrote:
Golden wrote:Alanis senses the irony here.
who's Alanis?
espers wrote:fair enough. I've heard of her of course but I don't think I've ever knowingly heard a song by her.
Methinks you're under the age of 25; possibly under 20 even.
Golden wrote:I thought I was Mooby.
I can get behind that. Let's do a little word association, shall we?
Mooby ==> Golden Calf ==> Fattened Calf ==> Sacrifice
Thanks for nominating yourself for the Day 1 lynch!
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:53 am
by G-Man
As for the Day 0 poll, here's my thought process:
I have never seen the Watchmen movie nor read the comic books. That leaves me with no knowledge of any of the poll options or how they might be worth investigating.
What I do know is that Malin Akerman is in the Watchmen movie as Silver Spectre. Malin Akerman has that ridiculously gorgeous Swedish thing going on. I'll break from my usual even-keeled line of thought and say something that's probably sexist: I wouldn't mind searching through the contents of Silver Spectre's bedroom apartment.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:09 am
by Marmot
G-Man wrote:
espers wrote:
Golden wrote:Alanis senses the irony here.
who's Alanis?
espers wrote:fair enough. I've heard of her of course but I don't think I've ever knowingly heard a song by her.
Methinks you're under the age of 25; possibly under 20 even.
RYM seems to bring in folks from all over the world, so I figured it was just a case of someone not being exposed to this particular American songwriter.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:13 am
by Cookie
Like G-Man, I have no idea what the Watchman is about and I have no idea what to investigate. I will wait until I get home tonight and maybe someone can make suggestions?
Also, I'm new to this site and have played before but with people who don't scumhunt and rely solely on night results from cops, trackers, etc. So I'm excited for a more challenging game.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:14 am
by Tangrowth
Yay game!
I love the radio in the first post, Epi, that was pretty sweet. I hope you continue to utilize this method for your host posts!
I'm very excited to be playing this game with all of you!
Especially with some of you:
- Cookie, espers, and Scotty, whom I've never played with before
- LoRab, whom I haven't played with in WAY too long
- Russ and DH, whom I haven't played with in too long
- DDL, who has come from NF again to play with us
- Sloonei and espers, who have come all the way from RYM to join us
...I could continue, so, yeah, pretty much all of you for various reasons. :P
Good to see you, too, Mooby!
G-Man, I for one, prefer transparency (yes, MM) in civilians, and I personally loved your rainbow lists. I don't think anything "served you well" in Economics, either, since you were the most mafia-seeming civilian I've seen all year.
Golden wrote:I just want to warn you all that I'm pretty sure G-Man wants to kill me and I find this highly suspect.
His ass would be better served helping me make a lot of rainbow lists.
IMO, you're an outstanding mafia, but you're an even more outstanding civilian, so I do not support a policy lynch of you -- or anyone else -- for that matter.
nijuukyugou wrote:Yay game! Hello, people I know and people I haven't met yet
I'm going with Rorschach's Journal because it's used throughout the novel in different ways for important things (I do love a good motif/symbol) and because Rorschach is the most badass
And now I want to read this again really badly, too.
I haven't read comics or seen the movie either, but the theme seems pretty neat, and from what little I have uncovered from reading the roles and doing a little outside research, I do agree that Rorschach seems badass. Since I don't believe we have any reason to choose any particular option over another, and overanalyzing the Day 0 poll clearly was pointless in Roger Rabbit (Golden :P ), I'll follow this vote.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:15 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
Gonna vote for Ozy's apartment. Going by the comic, Rorschach's journal is a great source of information, but the story has just begun and he is probably still starting to investigate.
being the villain of the story, is probably putting some master evil plan in motion and knows more than every watchman combined.
Scotty wrote:
espers wrote:hey guys. looking forward to playing with y'all. particularly Golden and Metalmarsh whose talents i recently saw firsthand.
Hello random pirate penguin!
linki- are we doing a Golden Day 1 lynch? Is that what we're doing?
Statistics tell me leaving Golden alive is always bad for town. Never played a game where he didn't destroy the fuck out of the poor civs.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:16 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
Sorry, Ozy's office, not apartment.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:17 am
by Tangrowth
For Cookie and espers, here is a post I made in the Speed game 2 games ago, Economics, regarding Day 0:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Yay game!!
Very excited to be playing this awesome game, especially with the players who are new to The Syndicate!
I forgot to mention Day 0 in the sign-ups thread when you folks were asking about it. It is a tradition that developed back in the Lostpedia and associated mafia forum days before I started playing (2010), since I'm not completely aware of its origin.
That said, hosts typically utilize Day 0 for any combination of the following:
- Ease players into the game and make sure that all of them will be active participants
- Introduce the players to the theme off of which the game is based
- Provide something for Day 1 discussion
etc.
Traditionally, when I first started playing, hosts generally set up Day 0 polls in a fashion wherein there were several options, each of which benefited a certain group (i.e., civilians, mafia team 1, mafia team 2, SK). Often some players would have 'information' on the poll, with the host telling them which option would benefit their group. After the winning selection's results were demonstrated either immediately or later in the game, it gave not only the winning faction an item or ability to be used to help later on, but provided another piece of possible evidence on which to analyze whether someone is civilian or mafia.
Since the inception of The Syndicate, those types of Day 0 polls have largely fallen out of fashion, and the purposes seem to be more variant. I've seen Day 0 polls that were completely meaningless, some that awarded prizes individually (rather than factions), and some that have had a significant impact on the game. For example, in my recently hosted Death Note game, I gave the players the option to select from 8 different options for the lynch procedure for the remainder of the game. The option with the most votes is how all lynches would proceed for the remainder of the game (though I left that ambiguous, as some interpreted it might be Day 1 only).
Despite the varying uses for Day 0 polls on The Syndicate, perhaps the most common usage of Day 0 polls is to give players a fun way to interact before things get very serious during Day 1 (and an opportunity to nerd out about the theme) as well as possibly offer individual prizes, such as an extra lynch vote to be used at any time or removal from the Day 1 poll.
If I had to guess, since Russ came outright and said that no player has info, I would believe this poll probably falls into that category.
Hope that answers any questions.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:18 am
by Tangrowth
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Scotty wrote:
linki- are we doing a Golden Day 1 lynch? Is that what we're doing?
Statistics tell me leaving Golden alive is always bad for town. Never played a game where he didn't destroy the fuck out of the poor civs.
If it wasn't for Golden, the civilians wouldn't have won Biblical or Roger Rabbit, so... I can provide counterexamples for practically every example.
Is anyone here seriously considering a policy lynch option for Day 1? I just don't think it's wise.
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:19 am
by Tangrowth
If we are going to consider a policy lynch of any sort for Day 1, why not the person with the lowest posts?
Re: Watchmen [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:20 am
by Marmot
MovingPictures07 wrote:I love the radio in the first post, Epi, that was pretty sweet. I hope you continue to utilize this method for your host posts!
