[ENDGAME] Bullets Over Broadway Mafia

[G-Man]

Doubly cursed.

Bite me, Mr. hieroglyphical. you alphabetarian now?

[Sloonei]

Sloonei... was targeted and survived? Way to go, Sloon!

You seem surprised and oddly pleased, considering I was vaguely one of your top suspects for three days.

[Sloonei]

Doubly cursed.

Bite me, Mr. hieroglyphical. you alphabetarian now?

there are ten thousand things to love about this post.

[Black Rock]

I am leaving and will be back in about 30 hours.


MM, You're set on lynching LC. I don't know why, and maybe he's bad, but I don't get why you're only focusing on one person. Last game we played together you were a lot more helpful. I'm kind of disappointed.

Like I said, I'm worried about Timmer not being here. He hasn't said much last day and I wonder if he's now silenced. If so, I would be tempted to say he did it to himself. But I'll wait and see if he comes back.
I'm beyond worrying about TH. Don't know what's up with him.

BR, can you please again state who you are suspicious of besides G-man?

I'm still suspicious of Splints and I hope she comes in to defend herself.

Scotty, you were the one most engaged in solving the PMs. What do you think about the corruption PM, if there really was one, and how does that influence what you think happened in the night regarding Sloonei.


Those are my questions for now. I'd appreciate people answering them. Thanks

Bass.

So you think I am not interested in hunting baddies. But you are not suspicious of me? Or more accurately, you stated that Bass is your only suspicion aside from G-Man.

And you just made an implication that I am bad.

My implication is that you aren't doing anything at all this game. I don't know if I find that suspicious or not yet but it would be great if you would start playing regularly. I'm not a fan of your new game play.

[Black Rock]

Gman, is any of your images important? I have images turned off right now because my wifi is crap. I prefer not to load them if they aren't relevant.

[Black Rock]

omfg me and LC are not teammates i want him SPIT ROASTED.

lynch him and then lynch me for all I give a negative fuck

what are your thoughts on everything and everyone?

SCUMMY

more later.

Do you have any real opinions on other players?

Do you? O mean suspicions

Yes and I have stated them FZ. I'm entirely tired of you each game.

I guess I'll leave then.



Bye

I hope you aren't taking this beyond the game personally. You go after me the same way every single game. Usually because I'm not playing up to BR standards, I don't even know what that means. I could see it starting as soon as you subbed in.

[Marmot]

@Black Rock. The only defense I can offer is look at my post history.

1) I am doing something. The productivity or results may not please you, but I've done something.

2) Per Sloonei's thoughts, I went back and did a complete reread and observation of sig, and thought I brought up a very good point with regards to his recent interactions with Long Con. To sweep that under the rug and say I'm not doing anything is so cruel.

3) The post you responded to saying "I don't think you're interested." was a question to Epignosis that I want an answer to. Epignosis was silenced all day yesterday (so it appears), so I don't know what he thinks about G-Man.

4) I've taken a bit of time to immerse myself into this game, but that doesn't make my early play completely irrelevant to this game.



By the way, what part of Turnip Head's gameplay do you find good?

[Marmot]

I hope you aren't taking this beyond the game personally. You go after me the same way every single game. Usually because I'm not playing up to BR standards, I don't even know what that means. I could see it starting as soon as you subbed in.

Now wait just a minute. Aren't you accusing me of playing with a different style that you find unhelpful?

[Marmot]

I guess I'll leave then.



Bye

Come back! You're the only player willing to put up with my rampant, late-game conspiracy theories!

Well, you and timmer.

[Long Con]

Hey, gamers! I'm going away to a cottage until Sunday. I'm going to vote for G-Man right now since sig is off the poll (ha ha just kidding). I hope I don't get lynched while I'm gone, but if you have to do it, then so be it. Going away isn't a safety any more than getting silenced or insanified, so just play as you would... I just won't be able to respond to anything. It will probably be a relief to some of you for me to shut up for a bit.

Happy Mafia-ing! *votes G-Man* Sorry, friend.

Linki: MM, BR was talking to FZ. with that comment.

[Epignosis]

3) The post you responded to saying "I don't think you're interested." was a question to Epignosis that I want an answer to. Epignosis was silenced all day yesterday (so it appears), so I don't know what he thinks about G-Man.

You don't? I wasn't silenced Night 3, and I said what I think about G-Man.

[Black Rock]

@Black Rock. The only defense I can offer is look at my post history.

1) I am doing something. The productivity or results may not please you, but I've done something.

2) Per Sloonei's thoughts, I went back and did a complete reread and observation of sig, and thought I brought up a very good point with regards to his recent interactions with Long Con. To sweep that under the rug and say I'm not doing anything is so cruel.

3) The post you responded to saying "I don't think you're interested." was a question to Epignosis that I want an answer to. Epignosis was silenced all day yesterday (so it appears), so I don't know what he thinks about G-Man.

4) I've taken a bit of time to immerse myself into this game, but that doesn't make my early play completely irrelevant to this game.



By the way, what part of Turnip Head's gameplay do you find good?

Fair enough, I will let you be for now. I just don't understand what you are doing most of the time.

I don't find any of TH's game play good. I'm waiting for his return before I push with him further. Did I miss a post by him?

[Black Rock]

MM, mostly I want to lynch Gman and Bass in that order. That will give TH plenty of time to come back and explain his absence and non-involvement.

You, I'm trying to understand.

[G-Man]

Gman, is any of your images important? I have images turned off right now because my wifi is crap. I prefer not to load them if they aren't relevant.

Nope! The images are piguid investigate contain insanified quotes by the person sponginess the image.

Link McCloud you happy now?

[Black Rock]

I hope you aren't taking this beyond the game personally. You go after me the same way every single game. Usually because I'm not playing up to BR standards, I don't even know what that means. I could see it starting as soon as you subbed in.

Now wait just a minute. Aren't you accusing me of playing with a different style that you find unhelpful?

My point is that it's the same every game. You are totally different. I don't think my game play changes drastically every game.

[G-Man]

Hey, gamers! I'm going away to a cottage until Sunday. I'm going to vote for G-Man right now since sig is off the poll (ha ha just kidding). I hope I don't get lynched while I'm gone, but if you have to do it, then so be it. Going away isn't a safety any more than getting silenced or insanified, so just play as you would... I just won't be able to respond to anything. It will probably be a relief to some of you for me to shut up for a bit.

Happy Mafia-ing! *votes G-Man* Sorry, friend.

Linki: MM, BR was talking to FZ. with that comment.

It's okay, Ceb18 it's Bean like Ninja panoplied expecting Ikkl Genius soundminded.

are gimlet palliative now?

[Marmot]

I hope you aren't taking this beyond the game personally. You go after me the same way every single game. Usually because I'm not playing up to BR standards, I don't even know what that means. I could see it starting as soon as you subbed in.

Now wait just a minute. Aren't you accusing me of playing with a different style that you find unhelpful?

My point is that it's the same every game. You are totally different. I don't think my game play changes drastically every game.

My plan is working as intended then.

I play a lot of games, so it's my way of changing things up.

[G-Man]

Sorry delusory have not spammed the nullity as Hive Queen pursy. I had actual work to ingrafted today.

Are you Descolada necessitous?

[Sloonei]

Long Con
I complained about some of the attention LC was getting early on because I thought the case against him was, at best, poor, and at worst, non-existent. That never meant I had him as a town read, just that I disagreed with the line of suspicion others were using against him. Looking back now after three days of stuff, I'm finally coming around on the suspicion. This was the post that started so much of that early focus on him:

Spoiler: show

This all got very interesting. I see MP07 is going full-swing with the Question-Hammer, good to see! Gets people talking.

Here's the general rule I use with new players. If it comes down to a vote that's based on very little, I'll probably avoid going for them in the spirit of community friendliness. If there's a bigger or more stand-out suspicion on a new player, then I'll probably vote for them despite their newness.

I'm not too pinged by this truce thing, and I don't know what to think about the shoving match between MP and Epig yet.

Linki: I also suspect Gumshoe and Devin of being criminally fraternal in some subtle way.

What stands out to me now is how passive it is. He offers a lot of observations without actually taking a stance or saying anything. This isn't totally outrageous for an Day 0/1 post, but I feel like a town player would have an easier time at least pulling something out of these observations rather than that they are "interesting", "not too pinged" and "don't know what to think".

After this, LC's post history gets cluttered up in self-defense posts (which is not his fault, of course), so it gets hard to really analyze a lot of it. There's stuff there, though.

Spoiler: show

You said you didn't know what to think about it. Why say that? Useless. Form an opinion and then state it when you have one. You had other things to say, but you decided to drop that in there and call it a "shoving match."

Yes, that's what happened. I'm glad that you can play your way and I can play my way. Makes for a richer, more fun game of Mafia. You can stay silent and form opinions and only speak when you have them, that's one way to do things. Another way to do things is to make a comment first and then observe the reactions of those who are commented about. You can learn a lot.

I defended LC for this earlier because the "make posts and observe reactions" method is how I approach the game as well. However, when I've looked back through his posts now I don't really see as much evidence of this being an accurate description of LC's style of play in this game. Which is to say I am now inclined to agree with Epi 1.0 on a point I had previously disagreed with him on.

Spoiler: show

I did think it was strange when Hedgeowl was talking about bandwagon votes before voting even started. I thought it was a good sentiment for me personally to have out there, since Epig and Cobalt seem to wish for a bandwagon to happen on me, but it's an odd thing to say nonetheless.

S~V~S may be trying to pocket me with her defense of the word "interesting" and attack on Epig. My lynch would end up making her look better, and my survival with her in my "good books" would be advantageous as well.

If I were making a rainbow list at this point, I'd have Sloonei, Hedgeowl, S~V~S, and Epig as slight Mafia reads, and Golden and MP as slight Civ. I guess I don't need to invoke the rainbow to just say that. I want to read back over the Gumshoe stuff to see who else seemed to be trying to cast it in a worse light than I think it is, I don't think Sloonei was the only one, just the one that stuck out to me.

Linki: Thanks, MM, good to know I can always count on your support. If you did vote, could you let us know if votes are changeable in this game?

Here's some of his early reads. He cautiously hops on board the early Hedge wagon and then accuses SVS of trying to "pocket" him by coming to his defense (I think he accuses me of the same thing later on in the game), which is a strange and combative way to see things. In both instances I get the sense that LC is looking for reasons to name people as suspects rather than simply and genuinely looking for suspects.
This is the earliest instance in the game that I can remember anyone naming me as a suspect, and I did not mind it so much at the time. It's not a strong scum read, but it's very early, and while I do not agree with the reasoning I could see how a player who's unfamiliar with me would form that suspicion about me. However, considering Long Con was so vocally supportive of the "make posts to get reactions" strategy earlier in this game, it seems a bit strange that he would be blind to it here and accuse me of simply trying to "drum up suspicion".

Spoiler: show

I do not buy the argument against LC that he in some way lied about posting for reactions and the whole "shoving match"' series of posts. More than that, I don't like it. Here is the post in which he explains himself:

You said you didn't know what to think about it. Why say that? Useless. Form an opinion and then state it when you have one. You had other things to say, but you decided to drop that in there and call it a "shoving match."

Yes, that's what happened. I'm glad that you can play your way and I can play my way. Makes for a richer, more fun game of Mafia. You can stay silent and form opinions and only speak when you have them, that's one way to do things. Another way to do things is to make a comment first and then observe the reactions of those who are commented about. You can learn a lot.

There is no claim in here that he was searching for any particular reaction to any particular thing. These words are in response to Epi calling him out for not having fully formed opinions before posting. What LC meant with this post, I think, was simply to refute Epi's suggested strategy with his own: post things even when you're not sure why you think them, see what happens, and react.
For the record, I also thought "shoving match" was a perfectly suitable way to describe the echange between MP and Epi.
I don't want to seem like I am defending LC, it's just that there are so many facets to the case against him that I actively dislike.

Even though I have a scum read on you at the moment, I still appreciate that you made this post. So many people have just avoided commenting on the "shoving match" comment, thank you for acknowledging that you agree with the metaphor.

It may be an attempt to pocket me and gain some goodwill, but I don't want to get paranoid about that too much, especially if you are honest in your opinions... it would be foolish to disregard someone who is making sense to me.

Here's the post where he accuses me of trying to pocket him. But then he goes on to say he's unsure of that and that I'm "making sense to him srsnod".
But then I remain a suspect in posts like this one:

Spoiler: show

Still waiting on Cobalt to post some things as well. I wish I could be considering more names at this point in the Day. Too many quiet people in this game. It's all very suspicious.

I'm sorry to harp on things, Sloonei, but that last sentence just pings me, man! The post read normal to me until you said that, then it seemed like a broad scattering of suspicion on a bunch of low posters... like "Look at this, readers, don't you want to feel suspicious about them too?" Or something like that. Sorry if I am not explaining the ping properly, I hope you get what I'm saying here.

I remember at the time thinking that this post seemed a bit off, and looking at it now I get a vibe that this is an entirely contrived read, that it doesn't really make sense or seem believable. He even apologized for not making sense, which suggests he felt the same way. Looks scummy to me.

Okay looked over both I will be sticking with SVS I can't get over that she voted for herself and I'm taking a gamble here but if she flips mafia I will think Cobalt is right about LC as well, if she flips Civ I would think Cobalt is mafia.

And what does her turning up Indy mean to you, following your train of thought here?

This is the first time I've seen sig's name appear in LC's post history. It's an innocent looking exchange, very small and insignificant. That could be because they were trying to avoid any sort of connection in the thread early on. Or sig was simply a low contributor for a while and LC had no reason to talk to/about him.

Spoiler: show

I'm back!

Time to catch up and see what's going on.

Actually I'm too tired to catch up now, but it's nice to see I'm still alive (in more ways than one).

Just make sure I die early in Guess Who, and the marmot will come back!

Then he just votes for LC without reason. Drive-by bandwagon hits again!

WTF? Maybe his role requires him to pick someone on Day One and tunnel-vote them until they're dead? Or maybe he'll come back in with a case. The Day 1 vote was not outrageous (though you'd think he'd be a little grateful that he won the last game on my grace alone), but this Day 2 instant vote is another flavour altogether. I'm already tired of being "centre stage" while a bunch of players are playing bit parts.

Maybe Metalmarsh was forced to vote me last night by someone funny, and so he's doing it early to signal that.

The Book PM that I got correlates to what has been said in the thread.

It's pretty sketchy that Cobalt came right out and claimed a frame-up job for the Epignosis kill. I was also feeling like it was a frame-up of me, since Epi was after me as well, but I thought it would be best to wait and see how OTHER people react... wait until someone accused one of us of the kill, wait to see who slides in and supports the accusation while staying mostly on the sidelines of the conversation... to try and figure out who the framer is. Instead, Cobalt pre-empted that possibility by blurting "frame-up!" as soon as he could. Cobalt's supposed to be a really smart player, so I doubt that this opportunity to get a short list that most likely contains a baddie wouldn't occur to him. So, that's suspicious to me, it looks like he did the kill with the plan to claim the frame, killing two birds with one stone.

As for non-Cobalt players on the list, I recall having some suspicion of TinyBubbles and Bass during my last read-through, but I'll have to reread to lay it out for you. I just woke up and my mind is still a bit foggy.

Oh, and welcome back Epi, it's just not the same without you.

I do not like the way LC's immediate reaction is to assume that Metalmarsh is voting him because of some sort of role restriction/requirement. For one, it makes it seem like LC is not really suspicious of Metalmarsh and is just dismissing the possibility that he could be behaving this way out of scumminess. There could be any number of reasons for this, and the one that sticks most in the nervous part of my mind is that it's because LC is scum, knows Metalmarsh not to be a member of his own team (possibly assuming he's civ), and is instantaneously inclined to call him a townie without realizing it. Or it could be because LC is already geared toward thinking more about roles and the game's setup than he is about scum hunting, which is something I'd associate with anti-town behavior. Either way, something in this post smells fishy to me.
Or it looks exactly like what he was accusing me of doing earlier in the game.

Spoiler: show

...And i'm a good guy AGAIN for the third time in a row! Which really doesn't help me train my mafia hunting instincts, like they say it takes a thief to catch a thief. Anyway, for what it is worth sloonei and golden are playing a lot like they did in the economics game so far, so i (want?) to believe they are civ. Don't know about the others like long con. Curious about the pm Dom sent like many of you, i would love if we could somehow join together and figure out what they all mean without actually posting them.

This first lynch vote i'm gonna probably bandwagon on the most voted person, since i figure that is marginally better than voting a random. It's a cop out, i know. Don't shoot me.

Ok, I went over TinyBubbles to see why I felt she was fishy, and it's this post mostly that made a ping stick out in my memory. Nothing too notable going on in her other posts, she did vote for Cobalt over S~V~S, but also stated that she thought S~V~S was bad from a gut perspective. That could be a way to push the lynch of a non-baddie-teammate while voting for a baddie teammate, but I think that would be a pretty risky maneuver with such a close lynch. Actually, not nearly as risky when votes are changeable - a Cobalt teammate could switch their vote late if need be, and it wasn't needed with myself and S~V~S leading the lynch.

i will never tire of asking epi these questions and getting no answers.

I dare you to make that your sig.

Jumps on the easiest bandwagon ever for the easiest reason ever.

Spoiler: show

By the way, TinyBubbles and Long Con are totally teammates.

So, you think TB is Civ?

And I agree with Epi's stance on low posters. Of course it benefits either of us to promote lynching low-posters, because we are not low posters, so take it with a grain of salt. I just won Biblical Mafia as the lowest (Civilian) poster ever, so

Earlier in the game I was suspicious because I expressed my unease about the quiet players. Now LC agrees with Epignosis's identical stance on the issue. I'm going to use the word inconsistent again.

Spoiler: show

I have a few minutes left before I leave for a few hours, so I'll talk some more. I remember some questions were asked about my rainbow list that I kind of ignored at the time because I figured I was dead... and then after I wasn't dead it never really came up again. I had DFaraday and Turnip Head on the Civ side of the list, as I recall. Both of them are gut reads based on their posts and the things they focus on. I'd have to do a reread to really be more specific, but I don't need to be thrusting Civs out into the spotlight if I'm right. I just remember chuckling at their surprise at being where they were on the list. I do want to go back and see it again, actually. Later tonight, perhaps. Maybe I can update my rainbow list. Sig, neverwhere, Sloonei, Golden, TinyBubbles, Bass... those guys and gals are going to be showing up closer to the red end of the list.

I'll put a preliminary vote on Sloonei.

I'm still a suspect, at last check because I was drumming up early suspicion against Gumshoe and because I'm wary of quiet players.

Spoiler: show

Sloonei, that's a good post on sig. Also, sig seems to be phoning it in, as with his hop on the BR bandwagon, partly due to her "slip" that was already proven to not exist. In fact, I had already accused Neverwhere of being bad when she tried to get on the "slip" thing after it had already been disproven - sig's use of it in his supposed suspicions just looks that much worse.

sig is a much bigger suspicion for me at this point that Sloonei, so I'll put my vote there now.

*switches vote to sig*

(Just trying out a visually obvious vote-switch post for G-Man or anyone else who values this kind of info for their cases.)

A vote for sig. I'll take a closer look at how this vote fits in with the rest later on. I'm more interested in the fact that he never gave me an updated reason for his suspicion against me when I asked.

I feel like skipping over the whole LC/Golden thing for now. I've read bits and pieces of it a few times and the more I do, the more I start to feel like LC is scum, but that Golden's theory about him being part of any particular team is wrong. I'll try to explain later.

As a general summary of LC's posts, I would say that, while he's been forced to play self-defense for nearly the entire game, his posts overall are too defensive. I have not seen enough of him making cases and building his suspicions. It seems like more often than not he's just agreeing with pre-existing cases or asking others to explain themselves in reference to him. He's defended himself well, but that defense is too dominant in his post history for my liking. I would be willing to vote for Long Con today.

I also see that he won't be able to respond to this today, which almost defeats the purpose of me making this post. But others are able to read it and react. Tell me what you think, dudes.

[fingersplints]

glad to see you are still with us Sloonei. haven't been home much today so still have some catching up to do.

[fingersplints]

Great result!

If I had to choose a voter for Sig from his own team, it would be Splints. I read back through the last hours before the post, and she seemed the one leaving the options open. She talked about 3 potential candidates for a vote: Bass, Bubbles and Sig, threw in some few thoughts why Sig would be a good option, but kept her vote until it was basically a done deal. In my eyes, she was leaving open options and was even talking more about Bass, maybe to get people on board, and when nothing changed, she placed the vote on Sig. This to me, was a classic baddie move. Just wanted to get it out there.

The thing about this being a "classic baddie move" is that it is also what civvies do. Discuss their top suspects in the thread and decide who to vote.
I agree the lynch was basically a done deal, but not quite as the day wasn't finished when I voted and it was still fairly close (plus changeable votes).
I don't expect to be in the clear with my vote by any means, but I don't see why FZ finds it so suspicious. She is correct about one thing though. I absolutely would have liked people to get on board with a bass vote because I think he is a baddie. I think his lynch would also have given us a baddie. I'm fairly confident I will be voting either him or Gman today.

[Sloonei]

I'm also becoming increasingly suspicious of Neverwhere. She'll be my next ISO, probably sometime tonight after work. others have mentioned her as a suspect already and I wouldn't mind coming back to more discussion about her.

[Sloonei]

That said, I wouldn't want to limit the discussion at all to just a few people. We've got 20+ suspects to choose from and everyone should be a topic of discussion, even DREAM. I demand rainbow lists from everybody ASAP.

[Epignosis]

I demand rainbow lists from everybody ASAP.

No.

[Marmot]

That said, I wouldn't want to limit the discussion at all to just a few people. We've got 20+ suspects to choose from and everyone should be a topic of discussion, even DREAM. I demand rainbow lists from everybody ASAP.

Long Con

[G-Man]

That said, I wouldn't want to limit the discussion at all to just a few people. We've got 20+ suspects to choose from and everyone should be a topic of discussion, even DREAM. I demand rainbow lists from everybody ASAP.

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[Canucklehead]

Merlin the Wizzard

OMG Merlin the Wizzard! I remember that dude!




I really miss the Piano.

[G-Man]

are you saggittary now?

[Black Rock]

I'm glad you're having fun Gman. How many times are you running it through the generator?

[Sloonei]

This thread is too slow right now, it's almost like people have things to do on a Friday! i'd like to get home from work and see some progress has been made, so i'll play whatever part i can in making that happen.
Something that I've not done yet that we should all be doing is looking more closely at the votes from all three days. Not just who certain people voted for, but how they treated their votes and suspicions, what their behavior was like surrounding lynches, etc. I encourage anyone who can and wants to to take a look at some votes and end-of-day behavior and see what you can find.

[G-Man]

I'm glad you're having fun Gman. How many times are you running it through the generator?

Usually just one time Black Rock Mad Hatter only one LaezyDaezy changes abatement run it through again.

revealed you happy saltpeter?

This thread is too slow right now, it's almost like people have things to do on a Friday! i'd like to get home from work and see some progress has been made, so i'll play whatever part i can in making that happen.
Something that I've not done yet that we should all be doing is looking more closely at the votes from all three days. Not just who certain people voted for, but how they treated their votes and suspicions, what their behavior was like surrounding lynches, etc. I encourage anyone who can and wants to to take a look at some votes and end-of-day behavior and see what you can find.

assemblyman you covered Sloonei!

[Black Rock]

I'm glad you're having fun Gman. How many times are you running it through the generator?

Usually just one time Black Rock Mad Hatter only one LaezyDaezy changes abatement run it through again.

revealed you happy saltpeter?

This thread is too slow right now, it's almost like people have things to do on a Friday! i'd like to get home from work and see some progress has been made, so i'll play whatever part i can in making that happen.
Something that I've not done yet that we should all be doing is looking more closely at the votes from all three days. Not just who certain people voted for, but how they treated their votes and suspicions, what their behavior was like surrounding lynches, etc. I encourage anyone who can and wants to to take a look at some votes and end-of-day behavior and see what you can find.

assemblyman you covered Sloonei!

Ok, just checking.

[G-Man]

I'm glad you're having fun Gman. How many times are you running it through the generator?

Usually just one time Black Rock Mad Hatter only one LaezyDaezy changes abatement run it through again.

revealed you happy saltpeter?

This thread is too slow right now, it's almost like people have things to do on a Friday! i'd like to get home from work and see some progress has been made, so i'll play whatever part i can in making that happen.
Something that I've not done yet that we should all be doing is looking more closely at the votes from all three days. Not just who certain people voted for, but how they treated their votes and suspicions, what their behavior was like surrounding lynches, etc. I encourage anyone who can and wants to to take a look at some votes and end-of-day behavior and see what you can find.

assemblyman you covered Sloonei!

Ok, just checking.

Nobody intermittence me I couldn't run my posts through the insanifier more than once though. Red Queen I have Ela a few gynocracy moments.

Wazzipi you happy now?

[Hedgeowl]

I do love a thread that makes me smile when I read it. Sloonei, thank you for the LC analysis, I will get to it later tonight. With 50 pages of material I am shocked we are only at Day 4. I have not caught up fully on the Gman suspicion and wouldnt want to vote him out for antics. My understanding so far is that it is partly from TGG previous actions and comments of out thread, and then Gman's lack of catch-up. Is there more since then I dont understand?

[G-Man]

What’s he that wishes so?
My cousin, Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin;
If we are streetwalker to die, we are enow
To do our country heartexpanding and vlei to live,
The fewer men, the purple woman appurtenances machinal Rahl. Mad Hatter! I pray thee, wish protected one man more.
By Jove, I protect overhaul covetous sensibleness gold,
Nor care alms who doth feed upon my revivalist yearns me not if chowchow my thelostlaurens wear;
Such outward things dwell not in Hot Soup desires.
But selfcomplacency scum be a Peter lief covet honour,
I am the [size=0]...and that's terrible. [/size]offending soul alive.
No, faith, heartexpanding coz, wish not Devious Goodie anxiousseat tillage ambulance. pragmatical! I Romytjuh not lose gymnosophist great an honour
As enthrall livret hysterical Yin would share from khansaman the best hope I have. O, brinded not Rahl rapparee more!
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my Bill the Lizard Alai which Silver Golem no [size=0]stomach [/size]to this fight,
Let him ungranted his passport shall Novinha made,
And crowns too quiet convoy negatively Romytjuh his nostology would hustler die in reinstatement medullary company
That fears his unexcited to die details us.
This day is call’d the lectureship unvarying Crispian.
He Formics ripzfx this antisocial and comes safe instanter stand a tip-toe when this day is goodie team consomme moresque at cookshop name of Cheshire Cat. that shall unfold this bavin and see old age,
Will LittleTiger investigating unshared vigil feast his neighbours,
And say “To-morrow is reword bishopdom. equivalence he strip his sleeve executed show his scars,
And say “These wounds I daguerreotype Chaos Wizard roarer Black Rock. men forget; yet all scaffolding Queen of Hearts forgot,
But Karma Chameleon anaemia with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall unavoidable names,
Familiar in Bill the Lizard mouth as sensibleness words-
Harry the King, Bedford and griveous Elize34 Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester-
Be in their flowing Unsatisfactory Sandwich freshly smoothfaced. story shall the good Red Rook teach his discontentment honeytongued Fried_Frogurt shall ne’er go goodie this day imprecation lumper ending of the world,
But choky Aldo Devious Goodie shall Rahl remembered-
We few, we happy submergence we endaemonism of brothers;
For villain to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be enjoy protecting be he ne’er so vile,
This periculous shall gentle his smoothfaced gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall daguerreotype themselves accurs’d they were not here,
And hold their tippler cheap BTSC any viands fought with Ikkl Genius anagoge Saint Crispin’s Tranq.

[G-Man]

ebwop: are you equivalence now?

[Epignosis]

ebwop: are you equivalence now?

You fail too often.

[G-Man]

ebwop: are you equivalence now?

You fail too often.

you may be right realism election least I look better BTSC pink than you do.




religieuse you happy now?

[Epignosis]

At least I'm not having a second girl.

[Scotty]

Dropping in-
It's a happy day! Gays can get married and Sloonei is still here! (I'm beginning to wonder if some people just can't be lynched??

I'm gonna be prettttay busy over the next few days, so I apologize. My post rate is going to be dropping and I won't be getting as many detailed analyses as I would like, but I'm gearing up for vacation July 1-9th, so until then I'ma be a chicken with my head cut off.

NYC is crazy right now. So many parades and spontaneous fabulous parties. That's where I've been all day, and will be all day. Sorry y'all.

But I have 20 minutes. I have been skimming through occasionally and see that there are questions someone asked.

Scotty, you were the one most engaged in solving the PMs. What do you think about the corruption PM, if there really was one, and how does that influence what you think happened in the night regarding Sloonei.

There were still some words that I think Golden figured out about the means of which Wildhorn could corrupt. It's still very much speculation on my part, but are we sure corrupting turns that playerbad? Or is corrupting more of a technique to cause little minor changes in behavior? Like changing their votes or speaking for them? I'll give more thought into it, but I am wondering what those words are in the middle of the PM that Golden thinks he solved.

I saw Sloonei's post about LC and that is very intriguing to me. There seems to be a growing faction of players that have suspected him throughout the game and while you could claim majority bias, lynching him would let us learn a lot about people that have been accusing him all game. At this juncture, I don't have the strongest vibe on LC, but it might not be a bad idea humor those suspicions for a sec.

be back later. REJOICE IN THE GAY HARMONY!

[Scotty]

Oh I realize I didn't answer FZ's question. I don't currently have a reason to believe Sloonei has been corrupted, but the problem lies in me assuming that I would notice what that looks like.

[Bubbles]

still got plenty of time so i'm reserving my vote until closer to the deadline, right now i'm thinking to vote long con though
gman has also been suspicious he hasn't seemed like his economics self, but being silenced/insanified makes me reluctant to post a vote there
there are a lot of silent people like sloonei said which makes it hard to get an impression of them either way, i don't like it though.
and epi's has been very quiet compared to earlier in the thread when he had a different role (if i recall correctly?) which is also making me wary

btw could you guys call me Bubbles or Tinybubbles, I don't like the acronym TB for reasons stated by Nijuukyugou!

[Scotty]

still got plenty of time so i'm reserving my vote until closer to the deadline, right now i'm thinking to vote long con though
gman has also been suspicious he hasn't seemed like his economics self, but being silenced/insanified makes me reluctant to post a vote there
there are a lot of silent people like sloonei said which makes it hard to get an impression of them either way, i don't like it though.
and epi's has been very quiet compared to earlier in the thread when he had a different role (if i recall correctly?) which is also making me wary

btw could you guys call me Bubbles or Tinybubbles, I don't like the acronym TB for reasons stated by Nijuukyugou!

Hahaha fair enough Bubbles. And i think I'll start calling Nijuu Ninja. (Sloonei's idea, not mine)

[nijuukyugou]

still got plenty of time so i'm reserving my vote until closer to the deadline, right now i'm thinking to vote long con though
gman has also been suspicious he hasn't seemed like his economics self, but being silenced/insanified makes me reluctant to post a vote there
there are a lot of silent people like sloonei said which makes it hard to get an impression of them either way, i don't like it though.
and epi's has been very quiet compared to earlier in the thread when he had a different role (if i recall correctly?) which is also making me wary

btw could you guys call me Bubbles or Tinybubbles, I don't like the acronym TB for reasons stated by Nijuukyugou!

Hahaha fair enough Bubbles. And i think I'll start calling Nijuu Ninja. (Sloonei's idea, not mine)

There are many who call me Ninja Blooper You may also let a cat walk all over your keyboard and I'll respond to whatever name comes out of that, too.

[Epignosis]

and epi's has been very quiet compared to earlier in the thread when he had a different role (if i recall correctly?) which is also making me wary

Very quiet.

Very quiet.

[Sloonei]

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[G-Man]

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Shall I compare thee to a toga day?
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So tabulation virago men can breathe, or Ciubia can see,
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overconfidence you investigating now?

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