DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:05 pm
Skimming through G-Man's ISO.
G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:36 pmsprityo: Fluffy McFlufferson. You upped your game recently but I still don't trust you. I might like to watch you die.
This was G's call out on Sprit being fluffy.
G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:16 pm
I'm voting Sprityo. Top suss, best bet. Good discussion today, Fred.
I remembered why I had G-Man on my civ list for so long. I agreed with what he had said the day we lynched Sprit. Now as I reread, I see that there was pressure from both DDL and Fred and I believe Tink still had the lead at this time. I can see incentive to bus Sprit when there was only a chance for him to be lynched.
Spoiler for convenience:
G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:45 pm
I've gathered the following in chronological order. Some are Sprityo's words and some are my thoughts.
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:22 pm
So I don't get the purpose of putting 6 names down. From what I can read in the OP it's just one person you vote for. But my list is as follows:
Speedchuck - because we're CPI buddies
Dom - because I'm afraid of Dom. Always.
Jack - because I "like" jack as a person
DrWigly - because he's a doctor
LC - because I like LC as a person
Mac - because I haven't seen Mac in forever it feels like
He was an early-adopter of the "Boo is twisting words" crew and voted for Boo. Early cred grab or a lazy attempt at a mis-lynch? Not long after, he says Nutella looks better (possibly if we go the Boo v. Nutella route?).
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:26 pm
In my gut i want to say i trust
DDL a lot even though looking at his ISO didnt give me a whole lot to go off of outside of his dislike for timmer and a scuffle with jack.
I saw some things about
LC and speed being tossed around too. LC mostly, like nutella was against boo on his whole concept, which is correct. but i think why i keep seeing the names together is how he discusses with speedchuck a sort of vote alliance thing for tonight. and.... thats really it? not much else i can go on, he's essentially same level as nutella in terms of what he's doing. only nutella has been more argumentative about it and LC was taking pot shots here and there.
Speedchuck, starts out with some nice pro-towny things. he at least talks about it and not too much (which in retrospect makes him look better than how jack was arguing it) but thats because theres not much. and then he just kinda misses out and asks for a recap, so eh.
and then i wanted to cover jack since i just HAVE to, being he is who he is. we've gotten quite the "friendship". (i also just realized this post is half the people on my list, hmph. interesting) So overall jack actually.... looks good. i mean his disagreement with DDL wasnt a two sided thing, they both have their reasons. i would side with DDL on it based my personal opinion since having all vanilla towns is lame. but jack makes some decent posts in his actual banter, and he also throws down his opinions of people which is more than a lot of players have put out (then again it's day 1 and i can relate that it's hard to get reads sometimes)
I think that should be good, in retrospect, if i was to go into my list of 6, the other three,
Dom,
Mac, and
DrWilgy, well i couldnt do the former two, and will change them if they dont show up tomorrow (the phase), and DrWilgy doesnt have enough for me to judge him im pretty sure. (at least, if im remembering right)
In these next two, he changes his list of folks for evo votes:
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:24 am
@
DrWilgy, my list has changed. Quite drastically in fact due to 1/3 being dead. I would add
DDL to the list since he is a prominent player in my opinion, And I would take off
Dom since he has yet to appear. You are hesititantly on there still solely because I need 5-6 players but you haven't done anything spectacular to have me want to keep you there. I'll also add
Nutella as a hesitant since she appears to be wanting to do the right thing but I'm not 100% sold on it. I think. This all coming without checking back on information is what I'd have my list at now. I'm keeping mac on the list since he has at least appeared and I'm interested in seeing what he does.
Finally, the original list I made, was for all the reasons I listed. Nothing more nothing less. Hence why you're now a hesitant instead of "lol cause he's a doctor"
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:25 am
So if you wanted an updated list it'd be
LC
DDL
Nutella
Mac
*DrWilgy
He finally starts opining on people. Here he's criticizng my list of five (Fred, Neverwhere, Nutella, Sprityo, Tink):
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:48 pm
Question, why is Nutella and fredwood in that list?
Fredwood in general is looking better than you Gman.
I haven't really noticed Nutella much today, but I'm confident almost no one would vote for her. I feel like you added her in the for no apparent reason.
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:57 pm
I'd like to throw in, that I'm not entirely sure where you're getting the whole list from in the first place. Sidestepping a good half of the player base? Like you place either a "doesn't look good" or a "looks good, but then bad" on most everyone in the list you made. Excluding DF and DDL as the most prominent looking among the bunch. Back to the 5 people you mentioned though. In my eyes you've listed them as follows:
Disagreement man (Fred)
Somewhere (Neverwhere)
Hazelnut friend (Nutella)
Fluffy (Sprityo)
I do what I want. (Tink)
Realistically, you could've replaced 3 or 4 of these people with other players and still be about the same kind of list
The tin foil in my wants to say he's trying to protect more than just himself. I want to believe there is a teammate in my list of five.
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:01 pm
To directly answer your question, I'd pick tink, I don't think I'd pick everywhere since I haven't checked on their content. But I'd much rather lynch someone like
DrWilgy,
boo,
Dom/
Dyslexicon/
Eloh, and
Gman. Not to say I have evidence on them, but that I don't feel it in my gut that they're whole-y town sided. Something more so I should review over tonight since I'll be driving home and more than likely miss the lynch. In which case, I'm leaving my vote on tink.
Bingo. Pay dirt. Here we go! He says my list is dumb:
-Fredwood
-Neverwhere
-Nutella
-Sprityo
-Tink
And would rather hit someone on this list:
-Boo
-Dom
-DrWilgy
-Dyslexicon
-Eloh
-G-Man
Which leaves out these four:
-DFaraday
-Dragon D. Luffy
-Long Con
-MacDougall
If there was a teammate in my list, who do you think it is most likely to be?
If there is a teammate on his preferred hit list, who do you think it is most likely to be?
If there is a teammate on his list of omissions, who do you think it is most likely to be?
Here we see G-man's notes related to Sprityo and I see 3 questions following. Several players responded immediately, but I don't recall seeing any use of these questions from G-Man or any hard opinions based on these lists or questions.
G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:15 pm
I think we're going to want to return to these lists overnight and also on Day 5. For now, I don't trust the Eloh option.
G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:19 pm
I'm going against my better judgement anyway. Voting Eloh.
Why though? Why?
G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:16 am
It seems the first mention of 'black hole' Pokemon came after that post of mine. Perhaps I just screwed it up from the beginning with Faraday asking about Mew & Mewtwo getting evo votes. Neither one of them are baddies though, so that was a piss poor reading/assumption on my part. I've been pretty bad about keeping roles straight in my head lately, but this is a new low, as that post was the very first post from a player in the game.
KK, theory, what if the 'black hole' of evolution votes was discussed in btsc between Faraday and G-man before any of this popped up in the thread? Perhaps that would explain G-Man's confusion.
I'm going to take a break and resume after lunch.
Questions for G-Man -
- Why should I not think that your Sprityo vote was a bus?
- What have you gained from those three questions you made when you first ISO'd Sprityo post mortem?
- Why the hell did you vote Eloh? there were plenty of voting options that day, but for some reason you were inclined to vote against what you had said one moment before. Why?
And lastly a quote from Nutella that caught my eye.
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:25 pm
Morons.
Let's lynch, in no particular order: Fredwood, DFaraday, and G-Man. Two out of three of them are the baddies.
G-Man, when I'm done flipping through you who do you want me to look at? I think it's only fair for you to make the call on who I ISO next.
I've been monitoring those three lists and questions. I've been wrestling with them in my head as people are lynched and NK'd. Very few people responded to my questions, so I've been dealing with it internally. If it feels like it was dropped, that may be because I'm trying no to over-think it like I'm prone to doing. We're now left with just one person in the list of people I suspected (Neverwhere), one person in the list Sprityo omitted from his list (DDL), and the rest of us are on his list of "I'd rather we lynch one of these folks." We're now past the point of asking two of those three questions. It's now a matter of these:
1) Do you think Sprityo was defending himself only or himself and a teammate by calling my list dumb?
2) Do you think Sprityo omitted both of his teammates from his desired hit list?
3) If neither of the above, who among Sprityo's list makes the most sense as a cred-grab bus option?
Re: evolution black hole- That was poor comprehension on my part. Your theory will remain valid until I am dead.
As for your direct questions:
-There is no point for me to bus a teammate on Day 3, especially not an active one. If my catching up on the thread were just an act, why actually post my player notes that day if I am not in the cross-hairs? I kept my word. I posted thoughts on everyone, finished my re-read, and made an educated vote. With five people in my suspect list, why would I go for the only one that hurts my chances of winning the game when my team is well on our way to curb-stomping the civvies? On Day 3, Tink was a perfectly acceptable choice. You yourself voted for her in the hopes of eliminating a low-participating player. If I was bad, I wouldn't bus that early. It would have made more sense to vote sideways, for Tink to get in with the low-participation haters, or miss/abstain again for "not being caught up."
-Looks like I addresses this one above.
-I did exactly what I criticized Fred for doing. My back and forth with Fred Day 3 was by design. I was fishing. I was testing him. He came out looking good enough to me that I wanted to try to avoid a Fred lynch, so I voted Eloh to save Fred. I don't know what made me vote for him on Day 5. That was just stupidity brought on by the wide vote-spread. Frankly, this game should be used as evidence against ever letting me represent The Syndicate at the Mafia Championships.
-I've more or less cleared you and Boo in my mind, which leaves DDL, Dyslexicon, Neverwhere, and Quin. I'd say comb through Quin and DDL. I don't know how much can be gleaned from Neverwhere or Dyslexicon. DDL almost feels too convenient for me to believe, because he's the last person left on Sprityo's list of omissions. That list was nothing but players who you wouldn't be surprised to see flip baddie though, which is odd. DDL also
cast the scantest of shade on my assumption that Jack's NK was a mistake, by saying it was probably because Jack wasn't being suspected by anyone but that was on Day 3, well after the fact. But he's a proud one, that Dragon. I could see him not taking well to the suggestion that he done goofed if the assertion was repeated like it was. But he did correct himself just minutes later. I don't know. Suppressing my natural distrust of him is getting harder to do.
Quin might fit the bill if all Sprityo had to help him on the early kills was the inconsistent presence of DFaraday and the absent Dom. Then again, so could Dyslexicon.
A lot of the terms have been going over my head, gonna have to do some googling. 
