Escape From Trump Tower [GAME OVER]

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Who is the final killer?

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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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Apologies for interrupting your game with site down-time. It's all done.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:48 am Dys do you know why locking up Nanook might have a failed?
No.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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Long Con wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:40 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:43 am
Long Con wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:48 am What happens to me when you achieve it?
I have some bad news for you whether I achieve my wincon or not :grin:
What's that?
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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112 wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:52 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:05 am Nanook do you know why Dizzy might have failed to lock you up?
It's possible he can only lock villagers.
No, that's not it. I can lock up mafias too.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 2]

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Long Con wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:08 pm This isn't done but I am done for now.

The Keymaster
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If ~h~~~ ~~~~ ~~ unlocked ~~ ~h~ ~~~h~ ~~ll, ~h~~ ~h~~ ~~ll ~~~~~~ ~h~ ~~~~. If you are lynched or nightkilled, it will trigger a ~~l~~~~ of ~~~~~~ ~~~ ~~ ~h~~~ ~~~~, killing them. If you ~~~ ~~l~ ~~ lock ~h~~~ ~~~~l~ ~~~~~~ ~h~~~ ~~~~~, ~h~~ ~~~~~~ ~~~ ~~ll ~~ ~~l~~~~~ ~~ ~~ch ~f ~h~~~ ~~~~~, killing ~h~~~ ~h~~~ ~l~~~~~ ~~~ fulfilled your ~~~c~~. If your door becomes lockable ~~ ~h~~ ~~~~, then you will be told to lock yourself ~~~~~~, ~~~k~~~ your name from the poll. If your ~~~~ has been unlocked by the night poll, then you ~u~~ ~~~~~~ ~~ the ~~~~, ~~~~~~~ ~~ The Keymaster. If this occurs, then you will be told ~~ ~~~~~~~ locking ~~~ ~~~~~~ ~~ ~h~~~ ~~~~ each night.

Locking someone up ~h~~~ ~~~~ ~~ll ~~~v~~~ ~h~~ f~~~ ~~~~~ killed by the mafia, it will ~~ h~v~~~ ~~~ ~~~h~ ~~~~~ u~~~ ~~ ~~ ~~~~~~~ ~h~~. ~h~~ ~~ll ~l~~ ~~ ~~~~v~~ f~~~ the lynch ~~ll f~~ ~h~ ~u~~~~~~ ~f ~h~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~~~ ~h~~~ ~~~~. Players locked ~~~~~~ ~h~~~ ~~~~ will be told to post for the first twenty-four hours of the day phase and for the first twelve hours of the night phase. Players locked up ~h~~~ ~~~~ will be told to cast their vote during the first twenty-four hours of the the phase.

You cannot be lynched by the ~~~, and you cannot be killed by the mafia until you have ~~~h~~ contributing to the lynching of a member of the mafia or until you have locked up a member of the mafia. You will not be told if you have locked up a member of the mafia.
I was about to solve this puzzle until I remembered I have the whole thing lol :grin:
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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My schedule has been a Thing. I'll do stuff now.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [NIGHT 3]

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Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:32 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:00 am Wait were there really 3 people trying to no lynch... on day 3!?

I'm gonna need a real good explanation for that.
Dizzy cares not, and requires no explanation. Funnygurl seems more legit than suspect, despite the odd vote. M+7 is pretty suspect, but if he were a teammate, he could have tried to save Sloonei? Although tying it up again wouldn't be the most well-received move, it's better than a teammate dying, and why not bus instead of voting no one? I do think MP legit missed the deadline on that one, which is probably the largest factor in his vote staying there. Just being on the No Lynch option for that long is suspect though, looks like vulturous opportunism.
I never intended to No Lynch, my vote was there so I could intuitively see the results of the poll.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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MacDougall wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:52 pm 112, Soneji, Mac towncore.

Everyone else needs to demonstrate to us that you are town.
I'm honestly not sure what to do.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [NIGHT 3]

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Scirrus wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:45 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:04 pm
Scirrus wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:34 pm Sorry I wasn't able to check in soon enough today guys. Not that you guys needed me to apparently lol

M+ looks pretty damn good from this

I'll take a look at Sloonei's interactions tmw to see who could be cleared/looked at more from the flip
Why do you say this about M+?
Because if M+ is teamed with Sloonei then I don't think EoD would have gone down how it did lol. Sloonei was the main wagon for a long time, M+ only showed up right before EoD and was like oh I dunno, I don't like this stagnant wagon and funnygirl was like yeah let's switch off it...but then they didn't do it lol. His issue with his internet or w/e is true if he's town, could still be true if he's mafia? hell if i know, but the whoIe thing seems so weird and uncoordinated and a giant fail if he's mafia with Sloonei and just pooped out

I think M+, if mafia, would have either tried to get votes off of Sloonei sooner or just bus him for town cred, tbh. Neither of which he did really. IIRC he did have a mild defense of Sloonei earlier but I don't think anyone listened lol
No one's been listening to me all game.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [NIGHT 3]

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Scirrus wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:58 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:37 am I’m really sorry everyone my IRL has been a rollercoaster, and the internet issues were like the icing on the cake.

I’m happy scum was lynched but I realize I never really caught onto Sloonei and he was a blind spot for me, so I recognize if this puts me in the POE.

I don’t feel like doing things now, I’ll be around whenever I do.
Hope you're doing ok :hugs:

Let us know your thoughts as soon as possible though, I wanna see where your head is at
Thanks, I really appreciate it. I will absolutely try to do that, I think I'm going to have to start from scratch.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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Scirrus wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:18 am Oh yeah I should probably ask, is Sloonei the type of player that tends to interact with his scummates a lot, too much, too little, or does tend he mix it up?
I'm not really sure, I'd probably say it depends on what was deemed to be best in the situation of the game. I like the thinking though.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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Scirrus wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:38 am Mac I don't like how the basis for your reads is sheeping Epi/Wilgy but I also basically did the same thing yesterday so lol.

But when I DO IT it's like NOOO Scirrus reading into NK's is too WIFOMy and useless

I see how it is
Townie post, I think?
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:42 pm:cloud9:
^This is a townie post, I think?
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:01 am
Scirrus wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:05 am @TonyStarkPrime Hi! Can you elaborate more on your read of me? And what's your take on Mac?
My take on Mac is that “I’m cleared town rahhhhhh” with shaky logic is something town try to pull off more than scum, though now that I think about it it doesn’t really have much ground. Not particularly worried at the moment cause he seems solvy.

As far as you, a slightly annoying vote count analysis and, I must say, sheeping the reads of Epi. Since we haven’t played before I have not much to go on, but my general early impression was you were interested in solving — same for M+ though.

My current target for most suspicion is Nanook I don’t know if I said that already
Can you expand on this?
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:26 am Lynching anyone but MP here is abjectly ridiculous
But... what will you do when I flip town?
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:42 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:42 pm:cloud9:
^This is a townie post, I think?
Funny.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:26 am Lynching anyone but MP here is abjectly ridiculous
But... what will you do when I flip town?
Yeet the next person who it would be most ridiculous not to
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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I think Mac's tunneling of me is real. I still would like to think LC is town. Otherwise I'm not too sure. I'll do some digging.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:54 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:26 am Lynching anyone but MP here is abjectly ridiculous
But... what will you do when I flip town?
Yeet the next person who it would be most ridiculous not to
Fair enough, I think we can still win with my ML, but it still kind of sucks.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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I think you mean misyeet.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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I'm going to do some quick interactive analyses and see where that gets me.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:56 pm I think you mean misyeet.
Yes, thank you, my MY. Heh, that's a great abbreviation.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:55 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:54 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:26 am Lynching anyone but MP here is abjectly ridiculous
But... what will you do when I flip town?
Yeet the next person who it would be most ridiculous not to
Fair enough, I think we can still win with my ML, but it still kind of sucks.
You have 2 votes on you, someone else has 1. They are all the votes. Your defeated attitude is out of proportion with the situation regardless of your alignment. Do whatever you require to create energy and then expel it in a way that benefits your win condition my friend.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:57 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:55 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:54 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:26 am Lynching anyone but MP here is abjectly ridiculous
But... what will you do when I flip town?
Yeet the next person who it would be most ridiculous not to
Fair enough, I think we can still win with my ML, but it still kind of sucks.
You have 2 votes on you, someone else has 1. They are all the votes. Your defeated attitude is out of proportion with the situation regardless of your alignment. Do whatever you require to create energy and then expel it in a way that benefits your win condition my friend.
I really appreciate the sentiment actually, thank you.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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If Dys is telling the truth reasonably my conclusion is that Nanook is the scum power role. If Dys is telling the truth is a big gap here.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:02 pm If Dys is telling the truth reasonably my conclusion is that Nanook is the scum power role. If Dys is telling the truth is a big gap here.
Explain?
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:02 pm If Dys is telling the truth reasonably my conclusion is that Nanook is the scum power role. If Dys is telling the truth is a big gap here.
I'm telling the truth, but I don't think me not succeeding means much tbh
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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I think I'm the towniest player in this game tbh tbh
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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As can be expected, Sloonei asked lots of people lots of questions.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:46 am Literally my mood this game: :grin:
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Sloonei wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:52 pm We are polar opposites in the most delightful way.
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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im down with sheepin the m plus 7 scum read and seeing where that takes us, which i know is lazy, but i mean..... you know?

sorry man you're cool though :(

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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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mmmm scratch that i think ima just sit and not commit to a read, but i'm leaning on sheeping. sry. ya girl was a CLOWN during eod so im tryna listen
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 4]

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Things Sloonei said about people

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Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:06 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:08 am
Sloonei wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 10:09 pm This game will be the best game in the history of mafia. People keep saying to me, "Escape From Trump Tower" is the best game.
good
novaselinenever wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:09 am Unoriginal, think a baddie Sloonei does better there
I mean I’ll take it, but what?

I have a slight feeling that wolf Sloonei does not say this to a teammate in this specific way. Minor points in favor TSP.
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Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:44 pm
112 wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:21 pm
112 wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:11 pm
112 wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:06 pm Is this our first time actually playing together, 112?
Unless you were in Inception it might be
I was too busy hosting it to play in it. :goofp:

What can you tell me about 112 the mafia player that I might not already know?
I'm better at solving the game in my head than I am at explaining why I think what I do.
What sort of things do you look for and how do you develop your reads?
Tonal impurities, inconsistencies throughout a person's set of posts, reads whose justifications seem to fail inspection, potential team associations, meta if I have it.

A lot of the time I'm just looking for one post that seems odd and I'll build an entire case around it. When someone's wolfing, often one post they make gives them away entirely, and I can spend two+ rounds quoting that one post if I think it's strong enough reason to lynch them. If a post pings me, I'll ISO the player and see how many of their posts fit in the world where they're scum.
Where does nova's entrace fit in this structure?

This naturally reads like wolfmates talking to me. It's full of softball BS. Decent against 112.
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Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:40 pm
Scirrus wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:36 pm Oh for anyone new to me (that's probably most of you) feel free to ask me whatever you want!
I've played on and off on another site (PersonalityCafe) for about a year and a half, 20 or so games. I know Dizzy but that's about it.
What is your general approach to the game? What will you be looking for on Day 1 and later on?

Softball shrug for Scirrus.
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Sloonei wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:11 am
Scirrus wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:40 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:20 pm
Epignosis wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:52 pm A civilian Sloonei would love "solid reads at this point." It gives him a chance to figure things out later.

Sloonei is not a civilian. Lynch him now.
It was Day 0 at that point. I was responding to a couple of people who expressed a lack of conviction at that point. I do not expect anyone to have things figured out at this stage, and I would not want them to pretend to either.
No sir.
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:16 pm I would certainly hope that no one has any solid reads at this point. It'd be a mistake to think so. But it should be possible to have impressions of things. That's more what I'm asking for at this stage.
"I do not expect" is not the same thing as "I would certainly hope."
I would certainly hope that no one thinks they have developed any solid reads at that stage in the game.
Is that necessarily a bad thing? Give me ur thots
Not bad as in alignment-bad. But I think Day 0 is too early for people to feel as though they have strong reads, yeah. I’ve been getting a lot of responses in recent games to my early-game prods as if they‘re firm, fully developed reads, so this has been on my mind a bit.

This could be teammates talking. Hmmm. Slight points against Scirrus.
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Sloonei wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:50 pm
112 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:51 am Regarding Sloonei, I can see him as a wolf personally. His questions don't seem to go anywhere
Everyone says this about me the first time we play together. A question on Day 1 can be valuable on Day 3.

I'm not sure what to make of the Sloonei part of this, but the 112 part of it looks good.
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:20 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:20 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:19 pm I have gotten the impression that Epi is super town. Have I been fooled? Please tell me.

linki
juliets
not town
why not?
A deep feeling in my soul has told me thus
That's an unsatisfying answer.

hypocrisy is a staple of the civilian playbook

It sounds sort of stilted to say this to a teammate maybe? Not really sure how it impacts TSP but I felt inclined to include it nonetheless.
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Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:54 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:53 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:51 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:49 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:47 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:45 pm :doh: sorry guys, it's true, Slooneji strikes again.
What do you think of Epi's case on Soneji Sloonei?
I take it with a grain of salt, it could just as easily be a wolf Epignosis doing a proactive Town Act.
That tells me nothing. Anything that anyone does could be "a proactive Town Act." That's not a real answer.
It is my real answer. I'm not a very heavy day one player because I don't have a handle on who's bullshiting and who's not yet. I'm usually one of the lower posters in the early game. What I said was the actual way I feel and the reason I make my decisions. It's as real an answer as I can give you.
I don't believe that you've read it closely.

Some massive shade at LC here, when LC could have been considered a potential misyeet? I don't think it smells like distancing at all. Looks real good for LC.
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Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:16 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:09 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:01 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:59 pm i don't like the wagons
My very limited view of LC is that he just tried to question me on something that he clearly had not read himself, which was odd. I don't know if that oddity makes him bad. I know that I should not be getting lynched right now.

Throw other names at us, Carrotgurl.
I did read it. I couldn't honestly pinpoint his reasons by memory. Went back and reread it, and it's extremely thin, practically a semantic argument with a higher-posting expectation that he denies.
Yeah but you thought it was about soneji at first.
So, I see you have denied to cut the slack I requested. I have some issues with same-lettered folk. I used to do it all the time with Tranq, Turnip Head, and ... who was the third? Can't think now, nutella, juliets, who was it? Too close to lynch to look it up. Doesn't matter. It was just a genuine name slip. It's a flaw I have. It doesn't mean I was just scrolling my way through the game with my eyes glazed over. I have read every page of this game, some more skimmy than others, but not too bad on that front.
timmer, maybe?

I can't cut you slack entirely, but I'm definitely not prepared to base my vote off of this. I think it was a curious thing, but I don't really see what the baddie motivation would be there. Why would mafia Long Con be so careless to ask a question without fact-checking himself? There's nothing in that which immediately suggests dishonesty. It was just an odd thing that I'm struggling to place.

What reads do you have, if any?

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Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:28 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:26 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:25 pm Ok, things are still fluid. MP vote anyone? [VOTE: MP] aubergine
I believe I already asked why on earth I would do this and I never got an answer.
It would be because you suspect him.
So why would A Player in Escape From Trump Tower suspect M Plus 7 on Day 1 of this game?

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Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:28 pmLC is town

I think LC is probably clear as far as I'm concerned.
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:50 am
Sloonei wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:02 am [VOTE: tonystarkprime] aubergine

“Tunnels are a thing” = “I know this is wrong, but...”
I’m fairly certain it’s right
Why? What made juliets so obvious to you?

I don't think TSP is wolfmates with Sloonei.
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Sloonei wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:04 pm I could go for 112. That “thunderdome” suggestion is the antithesis of all things good and civilian.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

112 was in potential danger of being misyeeted I think, so this seems a bit risky if they are wolfmates?
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Sloonei wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:57 pm Funnygurl is my strongest town read after MP.

This could be TMI of FG? I'm not sure.
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Sloonei wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:05 pm My biggest hangup when it comes to @Scirrus is that a lot of his posts in this game so far seem to be a little complacent. That may not be the best word for what I’m feeling. There seems to be a direction in his posts, but that direction isn’t really moving the needle as much as I would like it to, as though he’s holding something back, trying to maintain the status quo or whatever.

This could be an unfair observation. He’s in a new environment and we (I) in turn don’t know anything about him besides what he’s putting into this thread. It’s not easy to plow through a thread full of noisy players who you’ve never met before. But at any rate, I cannot comfortably call him a town read at the moment. He is certainly putting in effort, and I want that to continue.

I think Scirrus looks better after reading this, but... Sloonei did use a lot of waffly language whenever he did read him, so ???
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Sloonei wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:54 pm
Scirrus wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:51 pm I honestly don't know why I feel so good about Mac but I do
I’ve been playing mafia with mac for 100 years and still don’t know how to read him.

This is convenient if Mac is Sloonei's wolfmate, but I'm not really getting that feeling.
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Sloonei wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:09 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:05 pm My biggest hangup when it comes to @Scirrus is that a lot of his posts in this game so far seem to be a little complacent. That may not be the best word for what I’m feeling. There seems to be a direction in his posts, but that direction isn’t really moving the needle as much as I would like it to, as though he’s holding something back, trying to maintain the status quo or whatever.

This could be an unfair observation. He’s in a new environment and we (I) in turn don’t know anything about him besides what he’s putting into this thread. It’s not easy to plow through a thread full of noisy players who you’ve never met before. But at any rate, I cannot comfortably call him a town read at the moment. He is certainly putting in effort, and I want that to continue.
i feel this too but at the same time they haven't done anything blatantly anti-town, you know?
Yes, precisely. I guess maybe I feel like Scirrus is playing mafia-by-the-numbers.

But again, I have not read everything in this thread.

Does Sloonei say this and then vote Scirrus if he thinks he and Scirrus are both going down? I don't know, man. Gven Sloonei switched onto sprityo and then that wagon took over, it's a bit difficult to read into the dynamics here.
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:53 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:08 pm Sloonei is likely just town guys
Explain.
He’s doing sloonei things
No I’m not.

Could be distancing. Sloonei hasn't really said much to or about Nanook. Not sure.
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Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:32 pm
Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:57 pm
Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:53 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:43 pm
Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:38 pm [VOTE: nanook] aubergine
I don't really have a handle on where I stand in this game, so I'll sheep you today.

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine
That’s a weird thing to do. Why are you doing it?
I feel a little disengaged and I don't know who I want to vote for, just some people I don't want to vote for.
I take it that means I’m on the “don’t want to vote for” list. Why?
You're not on that list.
Then why am I your shepherd, my child?

What the fuck even is this interaction between Sloonei and LC? I'm actually starting to wonder if it's theater, but ...???
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:52 pm I do not have any reason to to suspect MP at this time.
Naww Sloonei reverted to his usual self when Mac started Maccing. I like this. You can be town.
Sloonbot activated
Also wtf dude you literally agreed you (at least briefly) were playing like your normal self, but when I say I TR you for doing sloonei things it’s wrong?

Fuck outta here
Maybe I just have low self-esteem. But I don't feel like I'm doing Sloonei things right now. Or maybe I am. Maybe giving shit to somebody for town-reading me when I'm the leading wagon on Day 3 is a Sloonei thing to do. I dunno. Would nanook bother faking a town read on me at this stage if he was bad?

Nanook gets heated when talking to Sloonei, and then Sloonei sort of contemplatively responds. I need some help interpreting this one.
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Sloonei wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:01 pm
Soneji wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:19 pm Scirrus had great threadflow throughout d1, a consistent presence in discussion that didn't seem to have any wolfy motives at all. Uncertain about things at times, but never hedgy/fence sitting. Has solid reads/progressions throughout.
Soneji places Wilgy in Scirrus in his top tier of town reads. I appreciate the work he put into showing his reads, for the most part. But scirrus, a popular suspect and new player, got only these three sentences as a summary. This read feels like it's just slapped in there for the sake of existing, relative to all the others. @Soneji if you are around and able to, please talk some more about this read came to exist. Because right now I'm skeptical.

I think this is shade of Soneji?
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Sloonei wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:42 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:42 pm sloonei you here? wanna... talk ;______;
Kinda. Whatcha got for me?

FG's part of this reads genuine.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Conclusion based on this alone:

TSP

LC

FG

Mac
Scirrus
112


Nanook


I hope these conclusions are right. I think with how heavy attention was on Sloonei it is difficult to assess how often/little he would have talked with his wolfmates and/or if he would have bussed or not, but my inclination is that he likely would not have carelessly?

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine
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Oh fuck, I forgot Soneji, put him in green with FG.
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M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:04 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:02 pm If Dys is telling the truth reasonably my conclusion is that Nanook is the scum power role. If Dys is telling the truth is a big gap here.
Explain?
Look, Dizzy said it probably doesn’t mean much so I’m willing to pull off on this. But my initial instinct was that given most of the roles are vanilla, a failure from Dizzy points to some sort of mechanical reason. These can be best explained by the scum role.
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guys I figured it out
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don't worry about dizzy but I'll need some help later
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Wow MP pretty rude man
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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:30 am
Scirrus wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:03 am I'm trying to ISO Sloonei but I can't keep my eyes open, i'm sorry guys

Thankfully I should be able to get off work sooner tomorrow

FG moving from Wilgy to Sloonei to tie D1 is still good I think.

Sloonei's last posts were him trying to link me and Soneji. Makes me think Soneji is more likely town. That + the votes on Sloonei both days.

I'll revisit, Nanook, TSP, LC in particular tomorrow.

Don't know how much I should read into Nanook defending Sloonei all game for some reasons that i dont even know lol, TSP and Mac are just a big IDFK but Idrt why Mac would just low-effort bus like that so meh.

I feel like I haven't interacted enough with TSP/LC in general.
Scirrus wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:38 am Mac I don't like how the basis for your reads is sheeping Epi/Wilgy but I also basically did the same thing yesterday so lol.

But when I DO IT it's like NOOO Scirrus reading into NK's is too WIFOMy and useless

I see how it is
I have provided zero pro town content outside of an apathetic meh vote that lucked into being a scum flip. Nobody ever buses like that.

How are how you and I have played anything alike? Also you have had a TMI town read on me all game.
I'm not implying that we've played alike. I'm saying we both tried to sheep the Late Epi for scum reads.

It's not TMI. I don't know if you're town or not. I thought it was more likely due to your blatant sheeping and uninvolvement while seeming to not give a fuck gave me town vibes. And not caring about the questions I asked lol. But that's really all I was basing it on lol.
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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:30 am
Scirrus wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:03 am I'm trying to ISO Sloonei but I can't keep my eyes open, i'm sorry guys

Thankfully I should be able to get off work sooner tomorrow

FG moving from Wilgy to Sloonei to tie D1 is still good I think.

Sloonei's last posts were him trying to link me and Soneji. Makes me think Soneji is more likely town. That + the votes on Sloonei both days.

I'll revisit, Nanook, TSP, LC in particular tomorrow.

Don't know how much I should read into Nanook defending Sloonei all game for some reasons that i dont even know lol, TSP and Mac are just a big IDFK but Idrt why Mac would just low-effort bus like that so meh.

I feel like I haven't interacted enough with TSP/LC in general.
Scirrus wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:38 am Mac I don't like how the basis for your reads is sheeping Epi/Wilgy but I also basically did the same thing yesterday so lol.

But when I DO IT it's like NOOO Scirrus reading into NK's is too WIFOMy and useless

I see how it is
I have provided zero pro town content outside of an apathetic meh vote that lucked into being a scum flip. Nobody ever buses like that.

How are how you and I have played anything alike? Also you have had a TMI town read on me all game.
I'm not implying that we've played alike. I'm saying we both tried to sheep the Late Epi for scum reads.

It's not TMI. I don't know if you're town or not. I thought it was more likely due to your blatant sheeping and uninvolvement while seeming to not give a fuck gave me town vibes. And not caring about the questions I asked lol. But that's really all I was basing it on lol.
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gdi. I wish once I made a post, it would take me out of the full editor/preview window

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I really don't like how Nanook and FG just kinda fizzled out once we got a scum flip tbh.

MP/Nanook wagons might be good to have considering MP is everyone's main suspect and Nanook is MP/TSPs.
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Funnygurl555 wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:18 pm mmmm scratch that i think ima just sit and not commit to a read, but i'm leaning on sheeping. sry. ya girl was a CLOWN during eod so im tryna listen
Didn't you think I was like the scummiest person ever? What happened to that?
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Is it bad that I think TSP could be town just for bothering to decipher this code shit
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:01 am
Scirrus wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:05 am @TonyStarkPrime Hi! Can you elaborate more on your read of me? And what's your take on Mac?
My take on Mac is that “I’m cleared town rahhhhhh” with shaky logic is something town try to pull off more than scum, though now that I think about it it doesn’t really have much ground. Not particularly worried at the moment cause he seems solvy.

As far as you, a slightly annoying vote count analysis and, I must say, sheeping the reads of Epi. Since we haven’t played before I have not much to go on, but my general early impression was you were interested in solving — same for M+ though.

My current target for most suspicion is Nanook I don’t know if I said that already
Why Nanook?

Do you find sheeping Epi's reads a good or bad thing?
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:04 am There’s nothing stopping it from being Nanook/112 by vote analysis. Going back to sleep. Maybe there’ll be power when I wake up.
Why did you bring up these two specifically? Do you find them both independently scummy or something?
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Oh you think he's a scum power role. Do you read Nanook as scummy independently of that? [mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention]
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