The Syndicate

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:48 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:12 pm Turnip Head on MacDougall:

Spoiler: show

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:43 pm @Turnip Head can you extrapolate on your Dom/Nutella worldview please?

I mean I could, but I'm sure it could be refuted by logic and big brains

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:23 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:54 amWhen I am bad, I tend to try to make a big case and a big splash early to distract from lurking teammates, but I am an outlier. Most people don't do this. Of the people making big splashy cases, I found Mac the most suspish. He is also an outlier in general, and I saw him do something like it when he was bad when I hosted the Champs game with TH several years ago; make a big splashy play. @Turnip Head,do you recall this? It was end game, though, so not exactly the same, I was thinking more of his thread play.

I remember Mac being a hilariously evil genius in that game, but not the specific play you're referring to

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:53 pm Townish people:
G-man
Turnip (?)
Juliets (?)
Nook (?)
Ted (?)
Sig?

Scum:
Almost everyone else?

Jack town
Mac town
Jimmy town
Dom town

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:52 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:45 am

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:17 am Mac, I once again am asking you to clarify why you wanted someone you claim is baddie (me) to corroborate a piece of evidence for you.

Because there are two scum teams

Mac is town, this quote is exhibit A

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:02 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:57 am What's up?

We're rescuing Mac from getting wreckt

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:16 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am Cause town has perverse incentive to cooperate with scum that have good SRs on the opposite team, so you see mac as doing that and think it’s a townie mindset

Would be my guess anyways

That's exactly what I think. Baddie Mac doesn't make that post, his instinct would be to write with a different angle

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:18 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:10 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am Cause town has perverse incentive to cooperate with scum that have good SRs on the opposite team, so you see mac as doing that and think it’s a townie mindset

Would be my guess anyways

I really really really really dislike his flip flop on how he read me and Nutella. He declared me a wolf and Nutella one we should follow after the two of us started battling. Then like 12 hours later, I was town and Nutella was scum because I read her perfectly.

His argument for Nutella being scum exists in its entirety at the time he expressed a strong townread on her. His read change does not come from a town perspective. It comes from a scum perspective mimicking townplay, ie trusting Jack's Nutella read.

Why would baddie Mac express a strong townread on nutella and then flip flop just as soon? Why would a bad guy do that? It's a townie maneuever, just like your exact opposite flip flop was (I assume) townie.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:20 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:17 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:16 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am Cause town has perverse incentive to cooperate with scum that have good SRs on the opposite team, so you see mac as doing that and think it’s a townie mindset

Would be my guess anyways

That's exactly what I think. Baddie Mac doesn't make that post, his instinct would be to write with a different angle

idgi

you said essentially the same thing one post before mine (I got caught in linki), so I think you do get it...

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:54 am [VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine I don't like his unwavering suspicion of Mac and I especially don't like his reasoning re: Mac's changing opinion of Nutella

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:48 am Does anyone know how many toes MacDougall has? This is important to my read of him. He may not even be able to wear civ shoes.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:49 am For real though Mac is clearly town and anyone who can't see that is not trying hard enough

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:40 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:14 pm I have been calling TH one of my top townreads on gut, but I can't deny they're compatible with mac

Because we're soulmates

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:49 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:45 pm I am a sorcerer and each day I say “Abrica-fucking-dabra, Kalamazoo, I’m gonna make a rabbit out of you!” and nothing happens it will become more obvious.

Really? That's neat.

Really cool. Goes nowhere

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:18 am The case on Mac is top notch cringe mainly driven by Sig's woman scorned persona

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:25 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:23 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:18 am Anybody got thoughts about ted?

I appreciate his existence and would prefer it to continue

What if he just lived on as a ghost for a little bit

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:48 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:44 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:37 am He also compared you to g-man as if that's his pet vote

I don't follow your point here?

Like why would a civ bother doing that. He's setting up a "suspicion" in the same breath as "defending" you

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:01 am I encourage everybody to read in detail those Ted quotes that Mac posted, and tell me if that's not a scum looking for a read on Mac while pushing a g-man scapegoat agenda

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:44 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:34 am

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:14 am This is a fun take. In a world where Mac isn't on the Master team I could entertain a world where Ted is. Also yeah I feel like we haven't heard from him in a while.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:01 am I encourage everybody to read in detail those Ted quotes that Mac posted, and tell me if that's not a scum looking for a read on Mac while pushing a g-man scapegoat agenda

Okay I’m getting lost in all of these nets but this definitely doesn’t scan. If Ted is scum, he knows that Mac is not. He doesn’t need to probe Mac to try to find that.

Mr. Stark I know you're a billionaire Playboy genius but there's two mafia teams...

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:54 am TonyStarkPrime
Yes because Ted is bad and unsure if Mac is on the other team, but leaning towards him not being in the other tean

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:08 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:51 pm @Turnip Head
I see you why not switch to Mac?

Tell me why your voting me vs him?

Mac is town and you're maybe town. The thread seems convinced that you're both bad, if I had my way we'd be lynching Ted or pressuring jack

Gripes, starting with colored stuff:

Yellow: TH isn't merely defending Mac, they're telling us what Mac's instincts are. How should they know? That looks bogus to me.

Orange: TH's read on Mac is standout; the language they used and confidence they expressed were one of a kind in his posts. And there's close to nothing to justify that confidence. What follows is as much as there was:

Burnt orange: The read is heavily predicated upon Mac's flip of his nutella read. First of all, the entire premise that this is something mafia don't do is just balogna. Of course they do that. They do it all the time. Second, assigning that assessment to MacDougall of all people is additionally hard to believe. Mac is capable of just about anything, and one needn't play many games with him to determine that. Third, even if one accepts the premise that this was a "good look", it makes no sense to me for the look to be so good that Mac is rendered beyond reproach.

The read looks fake to me.

I was wrong but my read looks and feels authentic, you even said so yourself earlier. It wasn't until Mac actually flipped that you've now started calling my reads "disingenuous" and considering my contributions to be "nothing". I will pull your quotes if I have to. I can see now that you were being opportunistic at the time when you called my read of him authentic, and you are being opportunistic again after his flip, calling my reads "disingenuous" and "nothing".
You're taking advantage of my reads
when
they
suit
your
agenda

You are Mac's actual teammate, I'm the unwitting pawn on your chessboard.

He hadn't flipped yet = turnip's reads look real and good
After Mac flips = I hate all of turnip's read, bullet point by bullet point

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:54 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:13 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:18 am The case on Mac is top notch cringe mainly driven by Sig's woman scorned persona

I also dislike this post in particular.

Reducing suspicions of Mac to this is disingenuous.

When I was the loudest voice against Mac where were you with this?

As you saw in the quote you lol'd, I was favoring the lynch that I had more confidence in. You'll also see a wealth of me shitting in Mac's corn flakes at various other junctures to include when he was in line to be murdered instead of Radish (before the eventual lynching wagon overtook him late).

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:08 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:07 pm ...seems like you're buddying me tbh.

I don't care. I read you as a civilian.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:19 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:17 pm Jay-- put Turnip and sig aside.
Who do we lynch?

Gun to my head lynch choice: speedchuck

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:24 am

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:19 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:17 pm Jay-- put Turnip and sig aside.
Who do we lynch?

Gun to my head lynch choice: speedchuck

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I can't remember posts from him that made me feel like he is innocent. He has floated around and amounted to next to no production or memorable anything.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:27 am Jack tell me why Epignosis is not Mac's teammate.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:58 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:53 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:27 am Jack tell me why Epignosis is not Mac's teammate.

Thought you suspected speedchuck?

Bad Take

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:00 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:55 am Since when have you known Jay to try this little, folks?

I gave you a gut read on speedchuck. There's a whole set of analyses in my posts that can expand.

Click

You can shit on my work after you look at it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:32 pm speedchuck

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:33 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:29 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:19 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:04 am - Says he doesn't see any ATE in Nutella's posts. I interpreted this as him not seeing any emotion in Nutella's posts which I disagree with. I see a lot of emotion.

Nah, I'm talking about APPEAL to emotion. The idea of 'OMG how could you do this please lynch this person and not me because I'll feel just so awful if you lynch me uwu'

I hate appeal to emotion and it's lost several games to scum on this site.

Ok speed thanks for the clarification.

That said nutella does get a lot more emotional after Mac turns on her. I see why she has votes.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:50 pm Upon further reflection of ISOs both of these wagons are shiiiiiiiiiiiny turds.

Nutella I can see why people suspect her. The interactions starting when Mac wagoned on look pretty bad. But lynching nutella D1 after she gets defensive over some tunneling is wonky.

I have no idea why anyone would vote Master Radishes.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:42 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:38 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:37 pm Having read over the last two pages, Dys and Dom are my top townreads. Their votes are on people I would like to see lynched.

I got twenty minutes. Lets go.

Expand on this, mr chuck

I got weird vibes from Ted D1, and then he appeared reluctant to address Dizzy's 'scumslip' on him. It wasn't the slip itself that bothered me, but his forced nonchalance about it? Something like that. Lol at her flipping votes, though.

The Mac read is nothing special. I agree with what Jay said about his Dom post, and a few other sentiments expressed in the past two pages.

Dizzy and Dom both seemed like fairly stable, level heads in the thread D1. I like town dizzy and town dom.

Bonus: I don't care to lynch G-man.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:24 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:11 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:09 pm [VOTE: Ted] aubergine

I could be persuaded to vote Mac pretty easily.

Hey you should vote mac

wow okay that sounds good [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:28 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:39 am I 100% disagree about that progression.

Jack was sure Nutella was scum and said so loudly.

Mac said Nutella was town and Jack was scum with basically no explanation.

Then, after nothing changed between Jack and Nutella, Mac adopted the idea that Jack is always right about Nutella and therefore she is bad and if she’s not, whatever. An excuse to pretend that makes Jack scum.

The not tiny part would be an understandable opinion to have if he started with it or he developed it. That didn’t happen. That opinion appears to have spontaneously generated. More likely, Mac saw a way to shade two players who had each accumulated 6ish votes at some point during the day, hoping for a one two lynch and lynch of players not on his team.

It’s worse than no progression. There’s agenda in it.

Sounds pretty non-subtle as flip-flops go. Do you think scum mac would be subtle or no?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:02 pm I would, right now, vote sig, TH, Mac, and anyone who has appealed to emotion. I would murder the emotion right out of this game.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:06 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:03 pm Mac is self voting? Idgi. Does anyone remember him doing this before in a game?

Not sure.

I mean, Sig apparently told him to do so this game. So we should lynch Sig for suggesting it as well.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:10 pm So we can start with him.

But I have a hit list, and I'm considering putting you on it.

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:53 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:52 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:51 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:49 pm I also think anyone hard pushing the “mac has given up, lol gottem” line should be under a close microscope tomorrow

. . .

You're talking about even if Mac is scum, right?

Yes. Multiball.

Oh, right, Multiball.

And here I almost sorta agree with you.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:16 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:55 pm For the record though, sloonei is absolutely mac's teammate idk why y'all are sleeping on that fact.

TonyStarkPrime

Literally first I've heard of this.

(but if he is don't you think we should lynch Mac first? :P)

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:32 pm I can [VOTE: Sig] aubergine for sure, with Mac on the back burner.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:26 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:20 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:17 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:09 pm @MacDougall talk about players who aren’t voting for/heavily suspecting you. Who are your town reads? Is there anyone you think isn’t getting enough attention?

A great deal of people. The constant focus on myself (and now Sig) is very much allowing for a game environment where people who are absolutely failing in their basic civilian duty, or not living up to their usual standards are receiving little to no pressure. I have reservations about all the below;

Epignosis - Does not appear to be earnestly attempting to achieve a civilian wincon.
ColinIsCool - Only appears to be trying when there is pressure on him.
Michelle - Does not match her meta. Hasn't helped the civ cause really at all.
speedchuck - Does not appear to be the same speedchuck that I am used to seeing.
sprityo - Appears to be totally laying low outside of intermittently FPS reading me scum.
Tranq - Has literally made 5 posts or something.

Mac can you talk about speedchuck? Is it that he isn't posting frequently or something else/combination of things?

I think the lack of speedchuck's content is a large part of it. I am used to him being a more prominent member of the town. I think that with players like speedchuck sometimes basic is the best way to read them. If he is not living up to the normal standards of contribution then it's probably because he has a non town agenda/is putting a lot of his content elsewhere (ie. scum chat).

Have you ever been in scumchat with me?

How chatty am I in scumchat, Mac?

linki: my 'extra content' is going into audio editing, yeah. That's not an excuse, so feel free to suspect me and put attention my way. But it's also an unfortunate truth to work around. Binding freelance contracts are more pressing than mafia.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:29 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:23 am

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:46 am math is wonderful

what TSP is doing is not mathematics. : (

It is. It’s just the kind of math townies don’t like to listen to, along with logic like “even if I am scum....”

Townies generally want to vote for the player they suspect the most, which is Sig, not the player who is most likely to flip mafia, which is Mac.

It doesn’t really matter because we’re probably lynching them both and they’re probably both flipping mafia but

Tony’s logic is sound.

Lynch Sig and he flips wolf -> lynch Mac
Lynch Sig and he flips town -> lynch Mac
Lynch Mac and he flips bulletproof wolf -> lynch Sig
Lynch Mac and he flips town -> a decent chunk of the Sig case falls away -> maybe don’t lynch Sig.

Logically, mathematically, that makes Mac the best lynch.

Realistically, people suspect Sig the most and Sig will be lynched today. That’s of course fine because there’s good reason for that suspicion. We just need to follow up on Mac tomorrow, especially because he’ll have three teammates running interference and I’m betting we’ll see some new cases starting up on townies tomorrow.

I thought the Sig case was more predicated on his knowledge of the nightkill, not of the alignment he supposed for Mac. That would make Sig's slip irrelevant to Mac's alignment, if his team just got it wrong?

Or did I miss case development overnight?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:44 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:41 am His knowledge of the nightkill is “I think the mafia shot Mac and he’s the bulletproof guy in the Master mafia.”

So if we’re to read “I think” as “I know” then the chances of Mac also being scum skyrockets.

But there's only one part of that he CAN know, right? Surely there are town roles that can stop a kill?

...

But nobody would have protected Mac. Oh. Lol.

Yeah I could lynch Mac first. [VOTE: Mac] aubergine

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:29 pm I've had a suspicion of Sig since D1, before the whole slip biz. I really don't care much whether he or Mac get sacked first.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:23 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:22 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:11 pm Ted, Jack, and Colin are the names to look into if we’re right about sig. Dom is a fringe candidate too, and I saw someone float Tranq as well. I have no reason to object to that.

This for if Sig is scum?

Yes

What happened to mac

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:19 pm Speedchuck is short odds to be scum here imo

You never responded to my addressing your accusation earlier.

Am I active in scumchat, Mac?

The meat of this stuff is Day 3, starting with the post I highlighted (just as a marker). speed went back and forth between Mac and sig. I believe he voted each of them twice; he ended on sig and didn't appear to call the vote. I note that his willingness to wield those votes was based primarily upon the comparative "value" or validity of lynching either Mac or sig first relative to the other, with less emphasis upon what made them suspicious -- particularly with Mac. That's not my favorite thing. I am not prepared to dissociate them.

Compatibility: Decent

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:06 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:05 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:04 am General question for everyone in this game:

If you find juliets suspicious, why do you find juliets suspicious?

Why do you give a shit about this?

Because I am fairly certain there is at least one bullshitter trying to ply her as a suspect.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:07 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:05 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:04 am General question for everyone in this game:

If you find juliets suspicious, why do you find juliets suspicious?

Why do you give a shit about this?

I can answer this for Jay. I won't. But I can.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:11 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:09 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:07 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:05 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:04 am General question for everyone in this game:

If you find juliets suspicious, why do you find juliets suspicious?

Why do you give a shit about this?

I can answer this for Jay. I won't. But I can.

You object to Sloonei expressing the opinion that there is value in asking people questions?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:35 am Who is on Mac’s team?
Everybody. One or two names only. No reasoning allowed. We all have generally good instincts here, who’s given you bad vibes?

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:44 am Way to drop the ball team 2

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:42 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:49 am oh ted is probably bad too, right? wasn't he the one that floated that sprit had checked him?

Why would that be a bad thing?

Even as a dead man he still can’t find one post of mine which he allegedly town reads

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:06 pm Dom may be mafia to

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:12 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:11 pm People who say the names of logical fallacies to no end tend to be bad.

Your bad not me.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:12 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:11 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:06 pm Dom may be mafia to

yeah i'm on mac's team.

Maybe your on my team.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:46 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:49 pm
The Monitor - You cannot be nightkilled by regular means. By the end of Day 1, you will choose two players to be Harbinger and Pariah. They will know who you are.

If Harbinger is alive, and has not been found by the Anti-Monitor at the start of Day 6, she will choose one player to resurrect.

If this happens I recommend nutella.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:11 pm Yes mastuh

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:00 pm Turnip, who's an evil meanie besides me?

I've lost some faith in my reads so I'm resetting a bit. Almost anyone could be bad and I'd say they've played well, but I can also find reasons to trust most players

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:38 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:46 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:49 pm
The Monitor - You cannot be nightkilled by regular means. By the end of Day 1, you will choose two players to be Harbinger and Pariah. They will know who you are.

If Harbinger is alive, and has not been found by the Anti-Monitor at the start of Day 6, she will choose one player to resurrect.

If this happens I recommend nutella.

Suppose the Harbinger is mafia.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:08 pm Dizzy is the monitor, known by a mafia member harbinger and killed and janitored day 2 for precisely that purpose

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:50 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:43 pm Aside from Colin, you are townreading the entire Sig wagon?

You think when Sig was damn near buried and a metric fuckton of players collectively shrugged at the Mac case and voted Sig, that no wolves were among those players except maybe Colin?

Cause Mac had 3 teammates. I think there was more than one wolf who voted Sig. Is have an easier time believing three wolves on that wagon than one.

Knowing this website, I think that's entirely believable -- one or even zero on sig. I would bet considerable bucks that at least one Mac teammate voted FOR Mac, and perhaps more than that.

This is The Syndicate.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:16 pm Nanook doesn't meaningfully engage with sig until Night 2:

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:39 am

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:08 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:52 am A question: if we all know what a derp looks like, and we all could reasonably emulate it, why don’t you see it more often? I can’t remember the last time scum town cleated themself with something like that.
The only possible example in this game is Sig going after Radish for saying baddie. Sig might have been right. Ironically, because he might have been right, I need to re-examine Sig.

Yea maybe listen to sigs wild theories next time and we could've lynched scum day 1.

Uh listening to you D1 wouldve TKed me, so....pass

While this gets a playful tongue face, it's worth remembering that Nanook had a different role Day 1.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:40 pm To be clear I don’t super care about sig’s theory, but nothing between yesterday and today made me think “oh mac isn’t mafia”

These are two independent trains of thought regardless.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:46 pm To be clear I support a Mac TK and still think he’s >rand scum

Just don’t think he’s scum on the team I’m prioritizing today

SVS and tranq are also votes I’m happy with. Maybe even Dom, though he seems kinda different than what I remember from being his teammate.

I don't get this. "To be clear" (again, because Nanook must be aware that in some respect he isn't being clear), Mac should die but not "today." Which team were you prioritizing and why? And why were prioritizing teams?

And is that "player salad" I detect? "Mac is bad, but Mac isn't on the team I want to lynch, but maybe lynch Dom."

Folks, this is mafia.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:09 am I mean I guess if I squint I can see sig making a bad “slip” read to get pushback (thus discouraging cases against radish) then tying me and radish together and pushing me over him based on me defending him...

Idk I guess I could see it as a stretch but I would TK so many people over him today

This is making excuses for sig instead of making sig explain himself.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:14 am Uh sig isn’t gonna die today, lol. There are at minimum 4 better choices

And I’m saying that as someone who had him as my second blow up choice lol

"There are at minimum 4 better choices (shrug)" (but I'm not going to name any of them).

++++

I'm stopping there.

Lynch Nanook.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:20 pm Something comes to mind. In a world where people want to save Mac, the Day 2 lynch is the more interesting one. Mac led by at least three votes late before he was overtaken by a quick Radish push. I’ll look at it later.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:22 pm I scumread everyone with a vote right now. Ahhhhhh multiball.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:45 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:42 pm I mix it up.

[VOTE: Jay] aubergine

Reckon we're all sig's teammates.

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:05 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:51 pm @G-Man

What's your headspace?

Outside of Day 4, I am still trying to tread water. I’ve been trying to catch up, but today of all days has made that difficult. I feel like the colorized vote post that I made and my reflections on our Day 4 mini-thread were overlooked at best because my name isn’t Jay, Sloonei, Jack, Ted, or Nanook.