The Syndicate

Wheeee, I was a guard after all~ ^^

and really Leetic and Epi were caught but they just pushed the blame on each other.

Epi voted:

Nutella
me
Michelle
Leetic/syn

---

Didn't vote:
Longcon
Falcon
SVS

We have reasons to not suspect LongCon.

And maybe SVS isn't the best lynch until much later.

I am still at Leetic/Falcon.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

I say we start putting players in ties for the lolz.

I am fine being lynched as long as you don't leave me at final few. Please kill me before that.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:50 am
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 12:29 am I would love to be Foxy's yapping successor, but I lost sight of the direction this game was going after Epi. I don't even understand how anyone caught him. I was so deeply pocketed by him.

I just reread him and I don’t see where he pocketed you. I see where he agreed with your positions, but that felt more like partnering than pocketing tbh.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:25 am
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:23 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:12 am [VOTE: daisukenowaifuke] aubergine

Why should I not vote you?
I have no clue. It's D1 anyway. In a normal game, it's understandable to be mislynched on D1.
1/10 on drive.

Probably not voting you. Will pick someone else later. Tired.
Like this, his initial vote felt performative as did his “why shouldn't I vote for you” thing.

Especially after your reply and he backs right off.

How would you be able to see where I was pocketed by him when it all happened in my head? (i.e. I found his posts very towny and he seemed to be solving.)

I can understand leetic or falcon, tbh.

[VOTE: Leetic] aubergine

I would love to be Foxy's yapping successor, but I lost sight of the direction this game was going after Epi. I don't even understand how anyone caught him. I was so deeply pocketed by him.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:23 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:21 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 2:51 pm I vote for a 24 hour day.
I will allow it if a majority (5 people) votes for it.
@daisukenowaifuke
@falcon45ca
@Foxy
@Jackofhearts2005
@leetic
@Michelle
@nutella
@S~V~S

I agree.

[VOTE: Foxy] aubergine

I am comfy with my vote, cause I can't think of anything else. The more I think, the more I townread everyone in the player list~

We can afford to lose 7 towns, anyway. I am going. Long live the King (His Majesty LC)!

Foxy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:08 pm I want one of TSP/Michelle/Falcon out

Do you no longer believe in this POE? How does your vote on Nutella fit in here?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 4:37 pm what you think my wolf buddy pinged me

They didn't. And that's why you are putting in the extra effort to be here.

Tony to not show up during the previous EODs and to suddenly show up when he is the lead wagon is not very towny. </3

There's nothing to ISO when everyone is low posting. And this setup allows wolves to lurk. If we all piled our votes on Falcon, so you think he will show up?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 4:02 pm oh oops I called nutella a wolf and she wasn't even voting for me

I am voting for you. Don't you think I am wolf?

Wow, this is a nerve-wracking situation. We can still get rid of 7 more players before MYLO (in the situation that King remains hidden). I won't be here for EOD, or maybe I would wake up cause nerves.

Moving back to Tony, cause why not. Foxy's D0 was too innocent and towny, imo.

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

I have reasons to clear everyone else.

The reason I moved my vote off TSP was because his reaction to my vote was so boring. But, it's expected of an experienced mafia to not fret over my vote which had next to no basis, now that I think about it.

ToT Somehow, I feel like it's not Foxy. And also have no clue who it could be.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:00 pm So, Foxy... it's really not you, is it?

What made you waver now?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:24 pm idt it's foxy

Exactly. He seems to out of it to be wolf.

I suspect someone between Nutella or LongCon.

Interesting.

SKSKSKSSK.

My gut is suspicious of His Majesty LongCon indeed. I trust everyone else.

I think Foxy is town. ;((

I am voting LC.
[VOTE: LongCon] aubergine

Foxy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 5:44 am
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:25 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:09 am
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:02 am [VOTE: TSP] aubergine

He is the last mafia. In my theory of there being one high posting Assassin and one lowposting Assassin, TSP and Epi fits. Plus, I think his posts of being oblivious are performative.
I have a theory that there's one male and one female Assassin.

Is this more or less valid than your high/low poster theory?
... I understand what you mean.
Foxy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:08 pm I want one of TSP/Michelle/Falcon out
Can you explain this POE?
Yes, I explained it to host in PMs. I'll explain to you too after the game

Why after the game? You were open with explaining your reads D0 and D1.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:09 am [VOTE: foxy] aubergine He absolutely freaked out when he Epi wagon took off, and tried anything and everything to shift focus away from Epi, and then quietly tacked his vote on Epi at the last minute to be part of the train.

Come on.

Do you think the obviously wolfy player is wolf, when it could have just been a town who fumbled?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:09 am
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:02 am [VOTE: TSP] aubergine

He is the last mafia. In my theory of there being one high posting Assassin and one lowposting Assassin, TSP and Epi fits. Plus, I think his posts of being oblivious are performative.
I have a theory that there's one male and one female Assassin.

Is this more or less valid than your high/low poster theory?

... I understand what you mean.

Foxy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:08 pm I want one of TSP/Michelle/Falcon out

Can you explain this POE?

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

He is the last mafia. In my theory of there being one high posting Assassin and one lowposting Assassin, TSP and Epi fits. Plus, I think his posts of being oblivious are performative.

Congrats on catching Epi. I was so deeply pocketed by his performance.

I have decided that Leetic is Town.

I am suspicious of Foxy. But, that's too straightforward, isn't it?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 9:13 am
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 9:06 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:47 am Also I will say I am in support of having night phases
Can you let us in on your general ideas on who you trust and who you don't?
I'm fairly sure that not talking about who we trust is the basic premise here. I find it kinda disturbing that you seem to want to get people to spill.

daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 2:12 am It would be great if we could confirm with each other who the king is without helping the assassins.

[VOTE: daisukenowaifuke] aubergine

Evidently, your vote on me shows who you distrust. Unless, you're performing for the assassins?

Yes, I did think it would be great to confirm with each other, otherwise, how will we find the guards before it's too late for town to win?

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:47 am Also I will say I am in support of having night phases

Can you let us in on your general ideas on who you trust and who you don't?

Foxy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 2:17 pm Didn't read it btw, forgot about this site and yeah hahah

Concerned about Foxy. Did you lose WIM after D1?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:41 pm I think this thing between leetic and Michelle is charged with a little something extra. Not something that would matter as much in a regular Mafia game, but I feel like one of the two involved has the kind of vested interested that an Assassin would have. I was just looking back over the thread, and it just feels like the leetic-Michelle thing has legs. This is one of the game dichotomies that I believe we will need to resolve.

How does His Majesty propose to resolve this?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 2:59 pm ok wagon me sure whatever

i still feel like leetic is more likely town than not after all

epi might be fine

worried about daisuke

don't feel great about jack

but specifically don't like some things daisuke has said like the king post LC pointed out

[VOTE: daisuke] aubergine

;(( this OMGUS seems very hastily done.

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:03 pm
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:33 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:25 am
Spoiler: show
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 12:38 am I still think that TSP is town, because what is this complete lack of concern for being voted?
Spoiler: show
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:17 pm Are we voting for me lol
This was the initial reason why I found Leetic towny. But it's been 2 48hr phases already and their ISO is so dry and without an spice. This is the person who accused Michelle of having the most middling ISO.
Spoiler: show
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:24 am I'm doubtful of Thunal's strategies here. The thing is that we want the assassins out of the way early, as the more villagers we kill the higher the chances of the assassins getting the target correct. It also assumes a complete lack of creativity from us. As long as people are smart enough to not take the route of always townreading the king, then it won't be an issue. All of us know who the king is, as long as we aren't absolute morons the king is never in danger of being the final lynch regardless of if one or some of the guards are voting them at any particular moment. We benefit from resolving this as quickly as possible, and in most scenarios random lynches won't achieve that.
Nutella's ISO is so dry as well.

These posts by Epi are towny.
Spoiler: show
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:47 pm Fuck it. Here's what I've got:

falcon & Thunal are not teammates.
S~V~S & Foxy are not teammates.
Foxy & Thunal are not teammates.
Scotty is our king, King of the Scots.
Spoiler: show
Based on this, I'm least likely to vote for Foxy or Thunal.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:03 am As I've thought more about it:

I think the best way to approach this is to say anybody you're not voting for (as I did above) and feel free to leave the royal highness in or out of your list as you see fit. Say why if you want.

It's also a thing I poo poo on in normal mafia games, but with there being a pair of ne'er-do-wells instead of a single killer, it's not a terrible idea to look for teammate interactions this early on (impossible a task as that is, but them's the breaks). I picked out a few that I didn't think were likely. Tell me why I'm wrong.

More shruggery.
This... I find very good because it points out how Leetic is just fearmongering.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:44 am
leetic wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:36 am
Not sure I agree on the last sentence in general. But I'd say the biggest concern in this setup is that even if we lynch all the wolves, it doesn't guarantee our win as they still have the shots that can change the outcome.
How else do you win?
But, as I am writing this, I just remembered someone say they are good(?) at scumming. Well, I will townlean for now, and not overthink to paranoia.

Jackofhearts, Michelle... they have ok ISOs. nothing too wolfy or towny.

I think falcon is town. Their ISO is so sincere and esp this response to my joking is very cute. <3 Town Falcon.
Spoiler: show
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:10 am
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:07 am
His Majesty Long Con and I are scum buddies, how did you know?
I don't

I don't often solve the game D1, it's pretty rare in fact
SVS is definitely town. The fiesty retaliation against Foxy~ very towny.

LC seems to be genuinely solving.

At this point, my eyes keep glazing over as I ISO Scotty. I think I will just sheep the past me who believed he was town.

Foxy is... town for now. Yes.

I think there is one Assassin high posting, and one Assassin among the lowposters. I keep checking each player with their interactions to our King (His Majesty LongCon) and it keeps throwing off my reads a bit.

As of now, my POE includes: Leetic, Nutella.

Ppl I won't vote for now: falcon, SVS, Epi, Scotty (maybe), His Majesty LC, Foxy.

Ppl you can convince me to vote if you tried hard enough: TPS, Michelle, jackofhearts.

Feeling really insecure about my deductions rn. XP but it is what it is.

[VOTE: Leetic] aubergine
I never accused Michelle of having a middling ISO I accused Michelle of having a Michelle singular post
I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about this:

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:12 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine for having like the most middling ISO ever. And of course I am (or was) the most voted person

Looking at your post though, you agree that Michelle has a middling ISO

True. But I found it contradicting that you were accusing her of something you were also guilty of.

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:05 pm
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 2:12 am It would be great if we could confirm with each other who the king is without helping the assassins.

We can eliminate 7 towns before going to MYLO. What are the chances that we keep eliminating incorrectly... 7 times in a row?
Doesn't seem possible. Even if we lynch both assassins they can still win by getting the king correct

Then how are we supposed to win?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:23 am
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 2:12 am It would be great if we could confirm with each other who the king is without helping the assassins.
See, this is the kind of post that makes me suspect you very much.

I already know who the king is (me), and so do all the Guards. You're trying to get public confirmation into the thread, which can only help the Assassins.

[VOTE: daisukenowaifuke] aubergine

I am so sorry, Your Majesty. It wasn't my intention to help the assassins, but for the guards to find each other. ;(( I momentarily had forgotten about your greatness.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:25 am
Spoiler: show
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 12:38 am I still think that TSP is town, because what is this complete lack of concern for being voted?
Spoiler: show
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:17 pm Are we voting for me lol
This was the initial reason why I found Leetic towny. But it's been 2 48hr phases already and their ISO is so dry and without an spice. This is the person who accused Michelle of having the most middling ISO.
Spoiler: show
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:24 am I'm doubtful of Thunal's strategies here. The thing is that we want the assassins out of the way early, as the more villagers we kill the higher the chances of the assassins getting the target correct. It also assumes a complete lack of creativity from us. As long as people are smart enough to not take the route of always townreading the king, then it won't be an issue. All of us know who the king is, as long as we aren't absolute morons the king is never in danger of being the final lynch regardless of if one or some of the guards are voting them at any particular moment. We benefit from resolving this as quickly as possible, and in most scenarios random lynches won't achieve that.
Nutella's ISO is so dry as well.

These posts by Epi are towny.
Spoiler: show
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:47 pm Fuck it. Here's what I've got:

falcon & Thunal are not teammates.
S~V~S & Foxy are not teammates.
Foxy & Thunal are not teammates.
Scotty is our king, King of the Scots.
Spoiler: show
Based on this, I'm least likely to vote for Foxy or Thunal.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:03 am As I've thought more about it:

I think the best way to approach this is to say anybody you're not voting for (as I did above) and feel free to leave the royal highness in or out of your list as you see fit. Say why if you want.

It's also a thing I poo poo on in normal mafia games, but with there being a pair of ne'er-do-wells instead of a single killer, it's not a terrible idea to look for teammate interactions this early on (impossible a task as that is, but them's the breaks). I picked out a few that I didn't think were likely. Tell me why I'm wrong.

More shruggery.
This... I find very good because it points out how Leetic is just fearmongering.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:44 am
leetic wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:36 am
Not sure I agree on the last sentence in general. But I'd say the biggest concern in this setup is that even if we lynch all the wolves, it doesn't guarantee our win as they still have the shots that can change the outcome.
How else do you win?
But, as I am writing this, I just remembered someone say they are good(?) at scumming. Well, I will townlean for now, and not overthink to paranoia.

Jackofhearts, Michelle... they have ok ISOs. nothing too wolfy or towny.

I think falcon is town. Their ISO is so sincere and esp this response to my joking is very cute. <3 Town Falcon.
Spoiler: show
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:10 am
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:07 am
His Majesty Long Con and I are scum buddies, how did you know?
I don't

I don't often solve the game D1, it's pretty rare in fact
SVS is definitely town. The fiesty retaliation against Foxy~ very towny.

LC seems to be genuinely solving.

At this point, my eyes keep glazing over as I ISO Scotty. I think I will just sheep the past me who believed he was town.

Foxy is... town for now. Yes.

I think there is one Assassin high posting, and one Assassin among the lowposters. I keep checking each player with their interactions to our King (His Majesty LongCon) and it keeps throwing off my reads a bit.

As of now, my POE includes: Leetic, Nutella.

Ppl I won't vote for now: falcon, SVS, Epi, Scotty (maybe), His Majesty LC, Foxy.

Ppl you can convince me to vote if you tried hard enough: TPS, Michelle, jackofhearts.

Feeling really insecure about my deductions rn. XP but it is what it is.

[VOTE: Leetic] aubergine
I never accused Michelle of having a middling ISO I accused Michelle of having a Michelle singular post

I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about this:

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:12 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine for having like the most middling ISO ever. And of course I am (or was) the most voted person

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:35 am
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:11 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:01 am You should start the game saying you have 2 months play experience Foxy.

I am still waiting for that town case on Leetic
So, you trust that post of his, and don't think he is AtE?
I never said I trust him.
After a strong case on Thunal he couldn't explain why is Leetic town and he is still beating around the bush.
Meaning to me that we should chop Leetic and see what we receive.

What do you think?

I am already down to voting Leetic.

I am voting for Foxy by D3, depending on how Leetic flips.

Foxy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:11 am
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:11 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:01 am You should start the game saying you have 2 months play experience Foxy.

I am still waiting for that town case on Leetic
So, you trust that post of his, and don't think he is AtE?
Wdym

It's emotionally laden, esp this part.

Foxy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:13 am Why am I telling this? To trust my read on SVS? No. Don't. I don't trust it myself, as I didn't trust my read on T33 and wanted to swich by the end.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:01 am You should start the game saying you have 2 months play experience Foxy.

I am still waiting for that town case on Leetic

So, you trust that post of his, and don't think he is AtE?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 2:14 am
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 2:12 am It would be great if we could confirm with each other who the king is without helping the assassins.

We can eliminate 7 towns before going to MYLO. What are the chances that we keep eliminating incorrectly... 7 times in a row?
What do you have in mind?

I have nothing.

I thought I could sheep whatever you guys come up with. >.<

(I am trying my best to think of a good strategy.)

It would be great if we could confirm with each other who the king is without helping the assassins.

We can eliminate 7 towns before going to MYLO. What are the chances that we keep eliminating incorrectly... 7 times in a row?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 12:41 am
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 12:38 am But, as I am writing this, I just remembered someone say they are good(?) at scumming.
Who said that?

Whoops. It wasn't even you, it was about Jack. (I think this was the post I saw.) Alright, I am paranoid about Jack anyway, so this fits the bill.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:07 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:14 am Yeah, 12 vs 3 was the standard when I first started many centuries ago so 11 vs 2 does seem pretty townsided.
Why is Jack always rolling scum?

I still think that TSP is town, because what is this complete lack of concern for being voted?

Spoiler: show

This was the initial reason why I found Leetic towny. But it's been 2 48hr phases already and their ISO is so dry and without an spice. This is the person who accused Michelle of having the most middling ISO.

Spoiler: show

Nutella's ISO is so dry as well.

These posts by Epi are towny.

Spoiler: show

But, as I am writing this, I just remembered someone say they are good(?) at scumming. Well, I will townlean for now, and not overthink to paranoia.

Jackofhearts, Michelle... they have ok ISOs. nothing too wolfy or towny.

I think falcon is town. Their ISO is so sincere and esp this response to my joking is very cute. <3 Town Falcon.

Spoiler: show

SVS is definitely town. The fiesty retaliation against Foxy~ very towny.

LC seems to be genuinely solving.

At this point, my eyes keep glazing over as I ISO Scotty. I think I will just sheep the past me who believed he was town.

Foxy is... town for now. Yes.

I think there is one Assassin high posting, and one Assassin among the lowposters. I keep checking each player with their interactions to our King (His Majesty LongCon) and it keeps throwing off my reads a bit.

As of now, my POE includes: Leetic, Nutella.

Ppl I won't vote for now: falcon, SVS, Epi, Scotty (maybe), His Majesty LC, Foxy.

Ppl you can convince me to vote if you tried hard enough: TPS, Michelle, jackofhearts.

Feeling really insecure about my deductions rn. XP but it is what it is.

[VOTE: Leetic] aubergine

Foxy was tunneled on Thunal. But I do think that Foxy is town. And the fact that he went all over the place with his reads EOD seems like towny confusion to me.

I won't be here for EOD. Not voting the top wagon because I think Leetic is town. I find Thunal's reason for voting Leetic scummy. So, I will ~just~ go ahead and vote her. [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 11:51 am That doesn’t scan, the meter is more important than the rhyme

I don't know how meter works.
I only know enough words,
to make my rhymes twerk.

Leetic's ISO is so clean.
I think he will flip green.
We will be losing a guard.
And making life for town hard.

In this phase, I am comfy with not voting:
Scotty, Epi, TSP, falcon, foxy, LC, jackofhearts.

ordering from most inclined to not vote to least inclined to not vote.

Everyone else is ok to be voted.

I was too lazy to give my thoughts... ToT

Foxy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:46 pm Okay so, I believe that this opening is anti-town.

Is it scummy? No. But it's anti-town.

Am I biased? Yes. I joined to play mafia and when I finally randed town I got slapped with "Let's not play mafia."

Do note however, that the strategy she showed was clearly barely related to this game for the following reasons:
1. There is only one scum.
2. Much less players.

Reason number one is a big problem and I'll explain it here simply.
1. There is no group influencing the voting and narrative. Everyone is an individual and so, it's possible to do pure random voting with 1 corruption.
2. For the same reasons, it was impossible to accurately determine scum except for everyone trying to figure it out through a King which is a bad tactic in itself simply because it exposes their King. In truth, in such scenario, town loses more because they are the ones hiding their partner and not otherwise.
3. I have once subbed into a game where only 1 scum was left. It was impossible to determine without looking at previous posts or mech. Or well, you can try psyhological tricks but there's only so much a person can do. In the end, the game ended up on russian roullete until mech confirmed towns won in POE. It's also why that tactic was the best for those specific linked games. The only real info to be found is for scum.

This game, although at first glance is the same, is actually pretty much another setup altogether just with addition of one more scum.

This part is so well thought out; I understand it, I accept it, I like it.

Foxy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:46 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:08 pm And that means if you are voted, just accept it instead of trying to defend yourself or convincing anyone not to vote you. Don't try to start a counterwagon for self pres either.
I take this post very seriously simply because it gives off "I don't know King" vibes. Because if you knew the King you'd also know that others know the King and as such, it's impossible to vote him out. King may very well be invincible here. This post alone deserves serious consideration on getting voted out.

What Thunal was saying, and what you responded don't really match? They weren't even talking about the king here.

Foxy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:46 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:06 am I'll also add that being an outed guard isn't that much better than being dead in this setup. If the assassins know not to shoot you, that's one person they can eliminate from their pool for the rest of the game. I think it's a little better than being dead because you can still help town with your vote and the assassins can still tinfoil you, but it sure isn't good.
I don't think that any guard would worry about that. This game relies on POE mainly from what I have figured, or even if it doesn't that's how I am playing it. Honestly, the more outed guards we have the better for us. I don't find this particulary scummy but I absolutely don't find this towny and that's worth noting down.

Foxy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:46 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:09 am
Foxy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:07 am
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:06 am I'll also add that being an outed guard isn't that much better than being dead in this setup. If the assassins know not to shoot you, that's one person they can eliminate from their pool for the rest of the game. I think it's a little better than being dead because you can still help town with your vote and the assassins can still tinfoil you, but it sure isn't good.
Have you heard of POE?
Yeah and it's like the assassins are making a PoE of who's the king. They start with everyone and narrow it down based on how people interact with each other.
Same kinda vibe, feels a bit afraid of POE. This read honestly makes sense if we assume that some town are going to mess up hiding our King but uhh, I am playing with mindset that it's cool as long as I am not at fault.

How does more outed guards make it better when Assassins will also be taking notes on who the guards are to narrow down the scum?

Well, we can fake the king as a guard as well. But, then that player is not really "outed guard". Won't that make a difference?

Foxy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:46 pm This is a post she made justifying her read on falcon. Which is fine. However, such simple reasoning isn't something that shouldn't inherently be used to find town and is definitely flawed in the sense that there a particular person doing exactly that but on steroids. Spoiler, it's me. Pretty sure others had similar or higher level of solving and prodding than falcon too.

It's D1. We don't have a whole lot to work with. Esp since most of the playerlist is lowposting.

In total, I think you are too gusty and very valorous to be scum. Sometimes, I do feel like you are nitpicking too much. I think you are town, tho.

About voting Thunal... If we are *sure* she is the best option, we can go ahead. I sheep cause I don't think it's ideal for me to keep voting a lowposter like jackofhearts. I don't think an Assassin would go away like that.

Foxy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:46 pm Along with the reasons provided above, and the fact that she is obviously not King since I am making a scum case on her so it's not a waste even if she is voted out as scum wouldn't target her anyway, I believe that this is a fine elimination for the day.

You actually don't need to worry about this. The Assassins will be confused on whether you made a scum case on a king to throw them off. WIFOM.

Foxy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:03 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:00 am
Foxy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:17 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:14 am
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:58 pm Unless nobody can make it here for EoD, I'm not sure what the point of focusing so much on consolidating the vote is?
The king can die in a tie. Consolidation eliminates that possibility. Also if town has multiple serious wagons and cases, that helps pinpoint for the Assassins who the King is NOT.

It's another way of getting info into the thread that can help baddies.
1. This is pinging me to a small degree
2. You are probs overthinking it as either alignment
Hi Foxy, my name is "Overthinks Everything", nice to meet you.

And no I don't think I am.

Lets say you're one of the assassins (for the purposes of this example, this is not an accusation). You know 11 players are NOT assassins, therefore town.

Player A makes a hard case of Player R
Player B makes a hard case on player S
Player C makes a hard case of player T

You know all of these people are town, so they all know who the king is. R, S and T all get votes, these were pretty good cases.

S is yeeted, and flips Guard.

You, the assassins, now know R & T are also guards, and NOT the King. Cause A and C are unlikely to have made a hard case, a case they obvs believed, on their king.

So now your target pool is reduced by 3 people, not just 1.
Okie, but I was actually targeting King all the time you just didn't notice cuz you assumed this.

But seriously, does this explanation not make sense to you? Do you find it scummy?

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:12 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine for having like the most middling ISO ever. And of course I am (or was) the most voted person

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:19 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:25 am
Foxy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:34 am Okay, preliminary thoughts:

Town: Scotty, Nutella, leetic
Just a bit towny: Daisuke (OMGUS reasons cuz she should have most meta on me...), falcon45aa,
NULL: whoever I didn't mention. Work hard or you'll naturally enter my scum leans.
scum leans: Thunal33, SVS.

Need to reread: Longcon

I feel like keeping you alive for as long as possible is best for town’s interest
Foxy alive, eh...? All right then, you seem like a good chap. I'll sheep you, sir. [VOTE: michelle] aubergine

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:06 am I was too busy to read everything and I wanted to reach the reason of the votes on me to talk about them.
I still couldn't read that part but I saw Leetic voted me in bad faith and as a good Omguser I will
[VOTE: Leetic] aubergine

The two ppl on your wagon both have dumb reasons for voting you. At least Leetic's seems more reasonable. Why are you not voting LC, toDay?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:25 am
daisukenowaifuke wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:23 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:12 am [VOTE: daisukenowaifuke] aubergine

Why should I not vote you?
I have no clue. It's D1 anyway. In a normal game, it's understandable to be mislynched on D1.
1/10 on drive.

Probably not voting you. Will pick someone else later. Tired.

I have drive! For solving! T.T

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