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Perhaps I thought the infection was more clear-cut than it was interpreted by the players. Infection was immediate and curable the whole duration. No one asked the question, so I didn't think I needed to overexplain it.Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:38 pmi didn’t think i could self-heal a day before the poison took effect. thought it had to be the night i was going to dieG-Man wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:30 pmI just didn't understand why you didn't self-protect on Night 3 and healed yourself then. You could have guessed at which Long Con voter to try to save Night 4 that way. It felt like an unforced error to me.Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:20 pm also like, what would have happened if i stayed silent and self protected? it would have been the same thing. everyone knew i was supposed to die and when i didn’t it would raise questions about me that i couldn’t answer and cause everyone to think i had some bad role that made me immune. regardless of if i hinted or not self protecting was basically self incriminating with a town doc already flipped but i had no choice. claiming or not claiming wouldn’t have made any difference and i honestly don’t get why it wasn’t allowed
I was also surprised that you had no reaction whatsoever to finding out that there was another doctor role in the game. I was anticipating a questioning PM from you, but I got nothing of the sort.
also idk, why would i ask you? i knew what my role was. tutuu flipping just told me there was another
In the end, it's just a thing that happened. I need to evolve more on the issue.Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:36 pmi apologize for hinting so much and putting you in a difficult position. im really going to need to be more disciplined about no claim rules in the future. personally though, i think claiming should just be allowed in all games because it removes this issue entirely. and then setups can just be designed with that in mind so that it isn’t game breaking to allow them. or they can just be closed like this game. especially now with this site getting a lot of new off site people who come from places where claiming is the norm i feel like this could continue to be an issue, idkG-Man wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:26 pm HOST NOTES:
-I think after 3p's and baddies winning the first three games of this series I intentionally set out to tilt the game a little to the civvies.
-I broke the pattern of having a 3p in the game, but still had my chaos role in the secret asymptomatic carrier. That was a role in my Chicka Chicka 1, 2,3 game that didn't get as much time to shine as I wanted. It's also slightly based off the Venomous Imp role from a Long Con/Black Rock game from days long ago. Amusing that he wound up with the role.
-Including the asymptomatic carrier led me to incorporate a second doctor role. I thought it provided some balance, as the civvies had to contend with the mafia and a virus threat that was statistically more likely to hit a civvie than a baddie.
-There were a total of 50 votes cast in the day polls during this game. Only 7 of them were cast for baddies.
-I really didn't know what to do with Hally when she all but outed herself as a power role and second doctor. There is subtlety and then there is what Hally did. Maybe I could have been more clear. When it was too late, I didn't feel as though I could rightfully modkill her. That would have eliminated the last power role, and the only role of significance left that could stand in the baddies way from steamrolling the game. In fact, had I modkilled her, it would have defaulted straight to a baddie victory. Had the civvies somehow come back to win, I'd have given the mafia a share of the victory, because they would have won without any mass hinting from Hally.
-I come from a culture long ago that embraced claiming at first and then turned against it when it started wrecking artfully constructed games. I am a dinosaur and a relic and I need to find a way forward with allowing claiming somehow.
-The civvies had two doctors and even received a gift in the accidental death of a baddie, and they still managed to lose the game.
-I actually pored over Google Maps for weeks plotting the literal escape route of Sidney Blumenthal and Chelsea Clinton from the end of Escape From Trump Tower through the end of this game.
The fake penthouse was in a warehouse in Perm, Russia. Sidney and Chelsea escaped on a westbound train to Kirov. From there, rail lines and highways exist between all the towns mentioned in this game. All cities and locations therein are real places, even the pizzeria across from the Golden Gate in Kiev.
Actually, I settled on this being the way the narrative element ended the series no matter whether the civvies won or lost. The narrative was always going to split the players from the non-player characters of Sidney and Chelsea. I thought of constructing a long elaborate epilogue, but it was much more satisfying to just kill them off no matter what and end the story on a dark note.
Claiming the last power role when the other doctor isn't there to protect you would hand the baddies the keys to victory. They didn't kill you only because they hoped you might die from the virus. I didn't want the doctors outing themselves especially in this game because losing one of them right out of the gate would set the civvies back. It turned out that way anyway by natural course (night kill), but it could have been worse and the civvies could have been screwed from the very beginning.Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:13 pm i also honestly don’t get the point of no claim rules in a closed setup where there’s absolutely no gamebreaking potential whatsoever
like, everyone knew i was softing doc. i still got eliminated. it did absolutely nothing. anyone can soft anything as any alignment in a closed setup and it should be on town to figure out if it’s legit. it doesn’t make sense to me to ban claiming or hinting outright
but like, it’s not my game so
I just didn't understand why you didn't self-protect on Night 3 and healed yourself then. You could have guessed at which Long Con voter to try to save Night 4 that way. It felt like an unforced error to me.Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:20 pm also like, what would have happened if i stayed silent and self protected? it would have been the same thing. everyone knew i was supposed to die and when i didn’t it would raise questions about me that i couldn’t answer and cause everyone to think i had some bad role that made me immune. regardless of if i hinted or not self protecting was basically self incriminating with a town doc already flipped but i had no choice. claiming or not claiming wouldn’t have made any difference and i honestly don’t get why it wasn’t allowed
You are a civvie doctor. Each night, you may select one player in the game to protect, making them immune from harm that night. You may protect yourself, but you may only do so every three nights (i.e. N1 & N4, N2 & N5, etc.). You will not be told if your protection power had any impact.
+25 Putin Points for Epi making me smile with this quote. I shared with my wife “A... 2...” and she instinctively knew that D came next. Well done sir.
You won't find out who it is until they die.Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:47 pmWould you be announcing the name oy when they are already dead by the virus?
Per the role description, Hally is infected, plus one a randomly-chosen person who voted for Long Con. The randomizer could very well select Hally, who voted for Long Con.
[mention]112[/mention]G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:54 pm RULES AND WHATNOT
This closed setup game is for 15 players. As a Heist, there are only three power roles in the game. I will be using the following standard G-Man Game matrix:
1 2 3 A LOL OMG WTF B FFS Free Space JFC C GTFO YCBS STFU
Gameplay
1. Days are 48 hours long. I will do everything in my power to keep poll deadlines consistent.
2. Nights are 24 hours long. Getting night PMs in to the host in a timely fashion helps to keep things moving.
3. Only those players who have BTSC may communicate with each other outside of the game thread but ONLY in designated BTSC threads or chat rooms. For everyone else, no game-related discussion is permitted outside the game thread.
4. Votes in the poll are the only votes that count. It's helpful but not mandatory that you declare your vote in the thread in a way that stands out to the host.
5. All votes are changeable all the way up to the deadline.
6. A tied day poll will result in no death. Votes matter. There will be no coin flips to determine poll results.
7. Standard alignment wincons are in effect unless otherwise stated.
8. Dead is dead; you don't get to come back from that. Dead players will have their BTSC rights removed.
9. Roles will be revealed upon death.
10. Additional gameplay elements will be added/revealed on an as-needed basis.
11. I will probably end phases between 9:00 and 9:30 p.m. EST for this game. Any earlier is a challenge for me with getting the kids to bed.
Rules
1) Respect your fellow players, your host, and your Facilitator.
1a) Don't be an asshat.
1b) Don't get butthurt.
2) If you feel like another player is out of line or making/taking things personal/ly, contact the Facilitator, sabie12.
3) No BTSC regarding the game outside of the game thread(s). Players are told in their rolecard if they have BTSC. If you don't have it, don't engage in it. Violating this rule will result in a modkill.
4) No editing or deleting posts.
5) Self-voting is prohibited.
6) Double-targeting is prohibited.
7) Info-dumping and/or power-role-claiming is forbidden. Don't break games, build cases.
7a. Thou shalt not fake-claim a power role either.
8) Off-topic posts should be in OT Green.
9) Dead players are to post in Dead Red.
10) Non-Players should post in Non-Player Blue.
11) This is the host's color. Do not post in this color.
12) Participation is polite to everyone involved. If I feel you may not be paying attention to the game, I will reach out to you. Replacements and modkills may be employed if necessary. If you sign up, please play. If you can't play, request replacement.
13) Additional rules will be added/revealed on an as-needed basis.
All anyone can say is that they are town/civvie/villager/whateveryournativetermforgoodguyis.Rules
7) Info-dumping and/or power-role-claiming is forbidden. Don't break games, build cases.
7a. Thou shalt not fake-claim a power role either.
+1 Putin Point for asking a good question!
+4 Putin Points for tutuu for being helpful. (It could have been +5, but you forgot one.)tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:09 pm iso good
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Arete
Ash Lael
DrWilgy
dunya
Long Con
Michelle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Poison Chan
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
TripleHaven
tutuu
Vulgard
G-Man
Tell me more about this ‘degenerate exploit.’ Sounds kinda kinky tbh.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:18 amG-Man wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:13 am (1) Fake claiming is allowed. I mean, technically a baddie saying “I’m town” in defense of accusations is a fake claim. I just don’t want my power roles to claim their real roles because that leads to the game breaking down too easily. I like making it hard on you players and watching you guys squirm.![]()
This has a degenerate exploit FYI, recommend just making it blanket “no claims” if you don’t want people claiming their role