The Syndicate

Good game and thank you for the raisins.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:33 pm KILL THE SPINNING ANIME GIRL

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:33 am If you are a town that is allowed to claim and you are Codex say so for insta clear if you are not already cleared
i am codex

The codex astartes supports this action.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:09 am @DrWilgy track Dyslexicon please.

I reckon Dyslexicon is a bus driver or something.

Sure thing.

(Still being mechanically illiterate) You don't think Dya or SPF would be better targets? Do we have a backup so that Dizzy doesn't just holster?

Does this confirm me as town lmao?

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:36 am i have to assume that wilgy is intentionally trolling at this point

I'm as serious as a snap pea.

Figured it out. It's Dya, SPF and Alison.

GG.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:04 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:20 pm Also I got put on a new work project btw. It's taking even more of my time than before. Sorry about that.

If the status quo has remained the same, i would think samu or Alison is up to no good.

Why is Alison still alive?
wow this post is kind of bad

Your response is worse. How about you do tell why it's bad or inquire further?

What about it is bad?

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:46 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:07 pm So...

Question line:

If we were to ignore mechanics... Who is scum? We are now 2 4 2 of mechanic based misyeets. Is scum pushing these misyeet mechanics for their benefit and just keep going?
ignoring the fact that mechanics point to you being scummy so you have a reason to argue against it:

Why? That a threat?

the fact is that we're now in a position where we cannot not do mechanics. like what are we going to do, exe some vanity wagon or pet tinfoiil when people like herm or tim are running around with major unresolved questions swirling around them? there's too many mysteries and we have to clear 'em up

Or the game could be designed to not strictly allow that and we are shooting ourselves in the foot.

Bad vibes.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:06 pm did u know that the selensya guild also operates on mind control? they are literally a hive mind (like reddit)

looks like we all agree jules likes hypnotizing people

Would becoming a part of mat'slesnya count as mind control?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:22 pm Jules is Selesnya, and that's final.

Agreed

So...

Question line:

If we were to ignore mechanics... Who is scum? We are now 2 4 2 of mechanic based misyeets. Is scum pushing these misyeet mechanics for their benefit and just keep going?

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:47 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:25 am juliets - dimir
tutuu - rakdos
alison - orzhov
hally - selesnya
amy - izzet
macdougall - boros
orzhov???? are you joking??? I'm ez azorious

Is Jules dimir?

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:13 pm [VOTE: samu] aubergine

Why Samu over me?

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:44 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:20 pm Also I got put on a new work project btw. It's taking even more of my time than before. Sorry about that.

If the status quo has remained the same, i would think samu or Alison is up to no good.

Why is Alison still alive?
@DrWilgy did you claim results from last night? If not could you do so please?

Sure,

SPF wasn't targeted last night.

Also I got put on a new work project btw. It's taking even more of my time than before. Sorry about that.

If the status quo has remained the same, i would think samu or Alison is up to no good.

Why is Alison still alive?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:58 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:53 am He tracks when he votes on a successful mafia wagon and if not he randomly watches.
Hm. Randomly watching sounds better tbh. =p

@DrWilgy Are you X-shot or no?

I don't think so. If I were an x-shot that would imply I have a supply of shots when I vote for a flipped baddie. It's only on the night when I flip a baddie I get the selective track.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:34 pm Debating whether peeking Wilgy is a smart choice here.

I think it’s worthwhile if we think he has decent odds at being civilian, which I’m not sure if anyone does.

I personally don’t and a red peek brings us nothing because he’d probably be tomorrow’s yeet anyway if he wasn’t peeked.

I’d peek dya here? A few posts are brazen if they’re a wolf but I’d take the peek still.

Game’s hard.

Peek me so I can call you a liar when you red-check me.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:07 pm WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

I AM THE MAFIA PRODIGY OF THE NEW MILLENIA

poison chan said her role implies there exists redirectors

so what if dyachei was redirected to TSP, and they saw TSP visit MR?

but tsp's info is so dubious on whetehr or not he doctored MR. and herm so scummy too. weh whatever maybe im not that smart maybe im pretty dumb

This is big brain.

The question is would watch resolve before or after redirection?

(Outside odd ofc)

There's no way Herm's role visits.

Has ANYONE gotten this notification?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:18 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:16 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:26 pm Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town
Herm could just be straight lying.

Also could be a validation by another town, we have afew unaccounted actions right?

Exercise time Tutuu! Out of the "can't claimers" which is maf and which is 3p?
i dont know im airhead

Yeet Tutuu. Confirmed airhead.

So there was some fuckery with Tim... Does that dismerit Dizzy who is also not voting Herm atm?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:06 pm Wilgy's claim doesn't actually make sense though. First he claimed that he knows how many only, now he knows it was "an investigative" and he can't explain it? What the fuck is that?

Best guess is that Sloonei actually meant random. True blue random horseshit.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:26 pm Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town

Herm could just be straight lying.

Also could be a validation by another town, we have afew unaccounted actions right?

Exercise time Tutuu! Out of the "can't claimers" which is maf and which is 3p?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:10 pm So wait what results does your watch actually give you?

Good question. I have no idea why this random gave me role info and the first didn't.

So it's been almost 24 hours.

My watch indicated that TSP was visited by an info role.

That's it.

Someone figure out if that catches a baddie. I'm going back to work.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:57 am tl;dr

Mafia probably can't afford to kill town Alison. If Alison is town this game never gets to lylo either. We have enough days for her to eventually have checks on every living player (plus we have trackers and whatever else). The mafia forger is dead and they probably won't have a godfather. The only way this game ever gets to lylo is if Alison is mafia.

This game is literally over if we play it out this way.

World 1 - Alison is town and the mafia cap her tonight. We have 3 clears. We can't lose this game with 3 clears.
World 2 - Alison is town and the mafia don't kill her because they don't want to clear her clears. She gets another check every single night until they solve her.
World 3 - Alison is mafia. It will become very evident in time if we are in this world.

I agree with this but am held up at the following. "Why didn't Alison check me?"

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:52 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:17 pm not that it matters at this point but i also have information that 100% confirms herm being scum, it's not up for debate at this point
This kinda bothers me because you said you can't infoclaim or roleclaim and I know for a fact I can't infoclaim to this degree. Why are you claiming all of a sudden?

*concern*

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:02 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:07 pm TSP is our doc right?
Wait Wilgy actually posted already and said this, voted Herm and bailed without claiming his result?

What kinda shit lol.

The mafia is probs just Wilgy and Herm I guess.

Yeah, went back to studying after posting. Was wanting to wait to see if anyone blunders a lie on my watch, but realized the way sloonei worded it to me makes it pretty useless unless I'm small brain. Will catch up and post.

Good morning.

TSP is our doc right?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:36 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:32 pmWhat?

I know my own alignment silly, thus Tim's alignment makes me read you differently? Also at the same time being aware that my alignment will be revealed after I die?
But what does Tim have to do with your alignment? It's just a weird way to say it. Like, you and me, we aren't connected by the whole claim business thingy. If I understood all that correctly.

Aren't you the one that raised the fact that Tim lied re my N1 random glance?

What's keeping Alison from being scum again?

[mention]Alison[/mention], I'm No Surprises from OK Computer.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:29 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:23 pmNull because there isn't much. You're iso didn't do anything for me.

Tim flipping civ would reveal that both he and I are civ and thus you should probably be yeeted after me if that is the case.
You need to get more into this.
My iso is my iso. You can read alignment out of it if you want. Or you can fail to do so. Not really my focus right now.

But what specifically does your alignment have to do with Tim's flip? What changes in your view if the world is you/Tim t/t compared to you/Tim t/s?

You saying that it reveals that both of you are town, so I should get yeeted after you makes no sense here.

They way you're saying this is all wrong. You're going around the issue here. "It proves we are both town and you should get yeeted after us" is not at all a natural progression.

Would love other's opinion on this.

What?

I know my own alignment silly, thus Tim's alignment makes me read you differently? Also at the same time being aware that my alignment will be revealed after I die?

And rip TIM.

That's some shit.

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:24 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:23 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:40 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:18 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:17 pmNah, just a potential line.

Idk, you are Null until Tim resolves imo.
Expand please. What is null about me to you? How will the Tim flip resolve this for you?
@DrWilgy
Null because there isn't much. You're iso didn't do anything for me.

Tim flipping civ would reveal that both he and I are civ and thus you should probably be yeeted after me if that is the case.
I highly doubt it that his flip would make you any townier. Besides, is this a TMI?

Nope, just considering all possibilities.

Tim is very likely to flip 3p imo, if not scum. There'd need to be some real weird manipulation otherwise.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:21 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:15 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:13 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:07 pm I just want to say that I think Wilgy is scummy as freck in these later posts. 1/10
IMO he's just outed wolf so any motions he goes through are commendable effort
The "Yeah, I hope town can do it after we're gone!" while he's supposed to suss you, I think? And also the pre shading of me, cause I'm so "null" depending on your flip is terrible terrible awful.
I don't think he ever said he sussed me. I am locked on him, but there's really no particular reason for him to suss me other than our conflicting results, and I'm sure he is setting up to push you for that.

This doesn't make sense. I'm aware that I'm going to die, just a matter of who we yeet afterwards.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:40 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:18 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:17 pmNah, just a potential line.

Idk, you are Null until Tim resolves imo.
Expand please. What is null about me to you? How will the Tim flip resolve this for you?
@DrWilgy

Null because there isn't much. You're iso didn't do anything for me.

Tim flipping civ would reveal that both he and I are civ and thus you should probably be yeeted after me if that is the case.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:13 pmYarp. Hopefully town doesn't blow it after we are gone.
Uh, you think Tim is town? What about me?

Nah, just a potential line.

Idk, you are Null until Tim resolves imo.

[mention]Timsup2nothin[/mention] role with me here on a line.

If we were to both flip civ, who's scum and set it up this way?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:35 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:32 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:31 pm Anyone wanna yeet Samu instead of Tim?
Why tho?
Idk, he's probably scum.

The question was posed more of a "what are your thoughts?" Instead of hey let's do this.

Probably anxiety, but my brain has the tendency to go down the path of "what if we've been bamboozled and Tim is town?" The fact that Tim has not considered this option for me makes me more confident that we haven't been bamboozled, but the idea is still present.
Ummmm...I actually looked into the ways I thought I could be making a mistake regarding JPIC getting vigged and how that might affect your track. I've also been industriously speculating about how we might be getting mislead by some sort of 3P "vanillariser" with Dizzy et al. I've speculated so much about various bamboozling prospects that Alison has told me to just shut up and die. I just think that the simplest solution to the JPIC track is that you faked your claim. After some clarification from Sloonei I acknowledge that the simplest solution to the Dizzy track is that I faked mine. You and me both have to get chopped and that is a fact.

I also see that Samu is a pretty obvious chop choice after us.

Yarp. Hopefully town doesn't blow it after we are gone.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:32 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:31 pm Anyone wanna yeet Samu instead of Tim?
Why tho?

Idk, he's probably scum.

The question was posed more of a "what are your thoughts?" Instead of hey let's do this.

Probably anxiety, but my brain has the tendency to go down the path of "what if we've been bamboozled and Tim is town?" The fact that Tim has not considered this option for me makes me more confident that we haven't been bamboozled, but the idea is still present.

Anyone wanna yeet Samu instead of Tim?

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:31 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:24 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:20 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:52 pm Answering several privately asked questions all at once:

I am not currently aware of any Host errors occurring on Night 2.
Ok this was my question and was targeted at whether Sloonei would tell us if he made an error reporting results. So, this means Wilgy saying "JK, it was a host error" is not true. The host didn't make an error in notifying Wilgy of results of his "JPIC track". This makes me much more suspicious of Dr. Wilgy. @DrWilgy do you have another explanation you want to offer regarding why you first said JPIC didn't move and then changed that to JK, JPIC visited tutuu?

I still have my vote on Tim right now much for the same reason as tutuu in that I consider him a higher risk to be 3P but I could change it to Wilgy before the day is out. Chances seem good to me that Wilgy is mafia and Tim is 3P, though I guess Tim could be town. My 3P suspicion is born mostly from Tim's heated arguments that he should live.

@dyachei I'm very interested in your opinion of Tim here as to whether you see the 3P possibility or just how you feel about that possibility. The way I read you last night you are seeing him as town but I just want to make sure.
Nope. Got a message saying JPIC didn't visit anyone then shortly afterwards got a message that said there was a correction and JPIC visited Tutuu.
So @DrWilgy how do you explain Sloonei's comment that no host errors were made?

I can't, nor am I going to pretend to try.

Hmm... I didn't realize there was falsification.

Makes me wonder if those that can't claim can't be led astray.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:20 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:52 pm Answering several privately asked questions all at once:

I am not currently aware of any Host errors occurring on Night 2.
Ok this was my question and was targeted at whether Sloonei would tell us if he made an error reporting results. So, this means Wilgy saying "JK, it was a host error" is not true. The host didn't make an error in notifying Wilgy of results of his "JPIC track". This makes me much more suspicious of Dr. Wilgy. @DrWilgy do you have another explanation you want to offer regarding why you first said JPIC didn't move and then changed that to JK, JPIC visited tutuu?

I still have my vote on Tim right now much for the same reason as tutuu in that I consider him a higher risk to be 3P but I could change it to Wilgy before the day is out. Chances seem good to me that Wilgy is mafia and Tim is 3P, though I guess Tim could be town. My 3P suspicion is born mostly from Tim's heated arguments that he should live.

@dyachei I'm very interested in your opinion of Tim here as to whether you see the 3P possibility or just how you feel about that possibility. The way I read you last night you are seeing him as town but I just want to make sure.

Nope. Got a message saying JPIC didn't visit anyone then shortly afterwards got a message that said there was a correction and JPIC visited Tutuu.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:24 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:20 am Tim is saying that JPIC had a useless role so he probably carried the kill to Hally.
Plus he was closest thing to outed. He always carries the kill there I think.

This is why, really, we should be killing Wilgy right away. Make the last wolf carry the kill while we have all this mech power out there.

This is silly, JPIC just targeted tutuu, unless kill tracking was somehow hidden from me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:32 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:07 pm TSP also seems to be the only one that thinks there's potential in this being v/v. That may be TMI from a scumerdoodle.

Keep that in mind when I flip town and Tim flips 3p.
TSP can only be mafia if Alison is mafia you realise that she cop checked him yeah?

Oh. Nvm then.

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