The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:21 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:00 pm @Sloonei So what really happened to Tim's block? =p
Samu blocked Tim, Tim’s block on ted never went through.

Right.

Crazy concoction of a game you had here! Twas fun! \o/

Or perhaps I will never know. :thonk:

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] So what really happened to Tim's block? =p

Good work, town!

And congrats, Poison too!

And aw, more psychic Dizzy with "Creep" being the song of the 3p. =p

Thank you so much for the game [mention]Sloonei[/mention]! Sorry I had to play it on low effort, but it worked out anyway. :wowee:

Being 3p =/= having a 3p strategy in mind.

Or maybe that's just me. =p

I have literally no clue what you are all talking about re Magpie lol.

If this is going to become important and I'm going to see my first Day 8 (fuck) of a mafia game, can someone please please please @ me with an explanation of what this is?

Sorry for being a wet noodle this game. Thank you all for carrying.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:12 pm Come on people that was all me lol

Of course <3

I'm not doing much with them, but it's just I very often have these prophecies. =p

So next time I say something declarative out of the blue like that, just sheep it lol. (Now it won't work)

I'm so tooting my own horn here. Fuck yeah!

I'm not actually bad at mafia.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:39 pm I have godly reads and Dya and Samu are scum.

Thank me later.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:48 pmMeh, no. I just know she also has a tracker claim. Town could have two trackers I guess, I think hers is also conditional. Of the few posts I've read this game I remember Dya and Samu asking me if it was "normal" for me to tunnel Nut when I made a joke about it, and that pinged me a bit after Nut flipped mafia. But that's like super minor, and only reason I'm bringing it up is probably because it's the only thing I have that's not claim related.

Why is it that everytime I ever express something as a blatant statement like that (which basically happens like once in a game) I'm so often correct? But I say it with like a jokey tone and I don't explain it before later and then nobody cares including me lol. The exact same thing happened in semis in champs. =p

Beware the Dizzy prophecies as they shall come to pass!

Ok. Done tooting my horn now, but that was satisfying.

FOR THE RELM

He probably won't flip scum though. Cause game is weird. And Dya thought Herm was scum. So.

I feel I should vote Logic. If he does flip scum I'm a mafia god for that Dya and Samu are mafia I'm a mafia god-post. =p

In a vacuum, I don't like Logic shading me for AtE or whatever. I don't know if he's argued me as scum before. If he has, then obviously I don't like that. Cause what is the basis? Obviously we haven't interacted. Imo I have a claim that clears me, both my conflicting result with Tim which wouldn't happen if I was scum (but it's just the truth that it was the result I got) and my track of Samu and especially how I just kind of ignored it/didn't discuss it with me or verify and was hedgy about it. We didn't go for Samu that day because of the Herm thing.

Thinking about it, Dya must've tracked Herm to Radish. So... Ugh.

I literally don't know.

I'm here, but I'm not really here. I was just going to check if flip had already happened tbh. You know why I've been slanking Juliets, and you know why I can't really play now. Not that that clears me. I don't know what I can do to help.

Logic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:07 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:02 pm You can yeet me if you want. I can post (but maybe only once don't remember) after I'm dead too. Not that I would be helpful lol. =p

But I am town. Sorry I wasn't able to show it better this game. I don't have time for this right now. I did what I could with the time I had, and I do think I should be cleared. But obviously, there are others cleared. But if I'm at the very bottom of the PoE, then PoE is simply wrong. So. Weh.
Just because *you* are "at the bottom of the POE" doesn't mean the POE is wrong.

The POE is wrong if it contains no scum.

I gotta say, I don't like this statement. It feels a little too ATE for my tastes.

Lol, of course you don't. But you voted DOZZY so you lose. Or do I lose? Lol

You can yeet me if you want. I can post (but maybe only once don't remember) after I'm dead too. Not that I would be helpful lol. =p

But I am town. Sorry I wasn't able to show it better this game. I don't have time for this right now. I did what I could with the time I had, and I do think I should be cleared. But obviously, there are others cleared. But if I'm at the very bottom of the PoE, then PoE is simply wrong. So. Weh.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:53 amHe claimed a song on an album with no mafia

PC lie detected it and verified his claim

Thus he’s confirmed town in 99% of the worlds

Ok. Guess the last mafia or 3p is vote manipulator then?

Who shall I vote?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:48 am And ted is confirmed town

Wtf is happening rn

How?

What's happening is I'm not really playing this game. I'm still town though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:45 am I mean, why does your role even exist. You've seem all the flips so far amd vote nullification doesn't do anything to the scum so far

Good enough for me.

Just to have a vote out.

Good luck!

I'm not really in this game anymore. I can't be.

I'm out of shots. Yeet me if you must. I'm town.

I guess Alison is scum or there's shenanigans in alignment checks.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:45 pm I dont think dizzy being mafia and outing a track on his own teammate to me on the night i got roleblocked (and he outed it after i outed the roleblock) means dizzy has more scum equity than spf

Shhhh, you're not supposed to speak logic. I'm in the PoE because slanking and such. Must be yeeted. =p

Wilgy didn't even have a tracking ability it seems =p False advertisement tbh

I'm fine being killed today. It's very necessary, it seems.

I don't have time for this game. And I'll be able to post after I'm dead once anyway. =p

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:38 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:36 pm Recap of the Tutu claim?

Also, I tracked Ted. Should I share the results?
It's okay Ted targeted Oddmerta we know.

Oh. But how am I going to prove myself then, if I still need to. =p

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:37 pm I don't know, I'm not in charge here.

Yeah, lol, that's why I'm asking. But I will eventually anyway. He targeted Oddmerta.

Recap of the Tutu claim?

Also, I tracked Ted. Should I share the results?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:39 amNutella was actually their most powerful role by far lol.

Rip mafia!

Nobody knows my song. It's actually a Madonna song.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:37 am Speaking of Poison Chan, having the names of every song at the start of the game sure sounds like a 3p role to me lol.

It does. I think I already mentioned this. Also the "I'm not 3p cause I haven't been anti town at all" is a funny sounding defence. Maybe. But please don't listen to me, except when it comes to me-stuff. No good things follow.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:32 amDerpclear attempt appreciated though

Thank you. I literally haven't retained the mafia abilities. I know Samu was roleblocker and JPIC had that night chat role thing, and also post capping. Sprit was godfather-ish (then why is Alison accusing me of that lol). Don't recall what Nut was. Derpety derp derp

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:35 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:34 am We could've cleared Tim by listening to him and not treat him as an idiot who would fake a roleblock action that wasn't true. =p Bad everyone. He'd probably still be yeeted with a whatever track result. I regret nothing.
We didn't treat him as an idiot. He treated all of us like idiots and pissed us off so we wanted him to be mafia lol.

Fair. Besides, we're all idiots for playing this silly game anyway. =p

JK. All lurve. But also I've been up all night working on a nightmare project with a deadline in 2 hours and that is probably 87 % of the reason I'm so pissy.

We could've cleared Tim by listening to him and not treat him as an idiot who would fake a roleblock action that wasn't true. =p Bad everyone. He'd probably still be yeeted with a whatever track result. I regret nothing.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:29 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:23 am
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:21 am I'm town you guys, literally only made one wrong call on tim and that was because he defended mafia hard and the ted track thing
why did you put in virtually zero effort to get the votes off of herm when herm was confirmed town fypov?
Was busy

Should we claim albums? Is there any point? We do know some "clean" albums. Sure, mafia can fake, but they might run into problems later because of Poison.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:27 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:26 am Not to be all party pooper, but if Alison is in fact cop, we probably do have godfather as the last role.
Sprityo was the equivalent of a Godfather dude

Oh. Lol. I'M TRYING. KIND OF.

[VOTE: Mac ] aubergine

Not to be all party pooper, but if Alison is in fact cop, we probably do have godfather as the last role.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

=p

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:13 amIf only mafia was as easy as just listening to everyone and blindly accepting their version of events.

It's not blindly. It's literally right there. =p Hello.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:04 amOkay so like Juliets list is wrong? Who did you track n2 and with what result then kind sir?

Yes. I voted both Sprit and Tim that day, same as you. I didn't track Tim because I didn't feel like it was worth it, and I wanted to save a shot since I don't have eternal shots.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:36 am I feel like Dizzy is nearly the only person it actually could be.

Could be what? You know I have confirmed tracks. If you are not 3p yourself this game then take note of this game in your memory. Take note of it and try listen to me in the future.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:32 am I wanna know why town Dyslexicon didn't put two votes down on d2 in order to spread out his tracker pool and got caught only voting the wagon that went over. You'd think ...

I did do this. I sheeped your exact to votes. I've corrected this a few times already.

There's also one other ability to my role that I haven't shared yet. And I don't need to share it until after I'm dead.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:14 am One thing that seems relatively clear at this point is that the 3p doesn't have kills so that points to survivor which also points to them townsiding which also points to idc about them anymore either.

I think 3p is a threat.

I would also assume 3p has some form of kill protection.

I also think I don't want to think about that now.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:13 am to be clear I'm not annoyed that you are saying "hey guys im town, you are wrong if you think im scum, heres all the evidence that proves me town" because I've done exactly that this game

I'm annoyed that you are making it sound like we're suspecting you baselessly or for no reason when that's not true

That's fine and understandable.

I get really irked being wrongfully accused sometimes. You know how much I argued in the laser game. Literally can't believe it. I think Mac is just annoying me on purpose now, and all this has no point if Wilgy will just track me tonight anyway and we'll also know Ted's alignment. Mafia is not a problem at this point. 3p might be.

The iiiiirks! =p

You all know how annoying it is to get wrongly accused, so don't try it. =p
I'm reacting better than Tim did lol. (Love you, Tim <3)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:09 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:08 am arguing about ted seems stupid when we'll get solid data about his role in less than a day anyway
It seems more stupid to be doing what Ted and Dizzy are doing. Maybe they are just mafia and 3p having a last hurrah.

Ewwww go away. THE IRKS! THE IRKS!!!

Holy shit I'll miss my deadline for arguing in a game we'll likely win anyway, baring 3p =p

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:06 amthe samu exe involved:

- scum lying about an easily verifiable thing
- us finding out and deducing that someone has to be lying and that someone was most likely him
- executing him based off that and him flipping scum

remind me again why that train of thought is so obviously wrong I should be chastised for following it again?

I haven't read any of that. I'm not Samu. I'm not chastising you. I'm just telling you that you're wrong cause I know you are. You can listen to it or not.

Maybe it's just Ted and this is all useless anyway. Let's hope so

It's not about just "lying" for no reason. It's about lying to be a role that gets verifiable results WITH a result that is in direct conflict with a town player. Hello.

Plus I fucking outed Samu.

These are premises. Now you can deduce. I'm not about blaming anyone for being wrong, but I am about telling you have it looks from my perspective. And then the rest of the game has to make a decision I guess.

We've probably won overall with the amount of abilities among us. So whatever.

*throws hands in the air* Why am I even giving this attention? =p

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:58 amno, dizzy, you know that something happened to his block. the rest of us don't. we don't share the same information as you, so there's no point arguing with me and telling me that I'm a shit player because I don't see how you're obvious town.

think about it from my point of view. I do not know that something happened to Tim's block. For all I know the block went through and the people who said it didn't are lying. The only person who knows for a certainty if you are lying is you. Which means that yes, you have strong reason to believe you're town, no shit, but the rest of us don't have that knowledge. So don't expect us to act on information we don't have. If you want to say "I know you are wrong" yeah okay fine. Obviously anyone suspected of being scum is going to tell the accuser that they are wrong. But don't start making a fuss about why it was wrong to suspect you in the first place because the reasons you have for not suspecting you rely on information that only you have.

I'm not saying you're a shit player. I'm saying it's obvious that I wouldn't lie about an easily verifiable thing. That is just a fact. I don't think that's very radical. I understand that nobody else knows my role for sure. If we all knew each other's roles, then mafia as a concept would't work. I'm not asking you to know, I'm asking you to deduce.

But if you don't want to do that, I can take the position of Tim 2.0 as he predicted. Sure.

This is not a "we only have your word for it problem" as you are posing it as. There's TONS of context here. The "somebody has to be lying" is the reason we've misyeeted in this game so far. I'm just reminding you. Don't say I didn't try.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:48 am required in order to arrive at "tim was roleblocked and never targeted ted on n1".

You're doing it the wrong order for me. I KNOW that Tim didn't get to Ted that night. I don't need to arrive to that conclusion since I'm already there. Do you get that?

You're trying to argue that "I should have" some sort of mindframe that I necessarily can't have.

Also:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:29 pm Responding to a private question:
A roleblocker can be blocked by another roleblocker.

I interpret this as a roleblock would just block another roleblock of the latter was aimed at someone else.

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