The Syndicate

anyway moot point

i'm 3p

so all your reasons for scumreading me are wrong

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:56 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:53 pm Not that anyone asked, but I'm comfortable voting 112 now after resisting it for a few reasons.

The one that put me over the top was my analysis of the response to my silencing on Day 2. 112 was the first person to point out that I was voting without posting, but she didn't seem to even consider the possibility that I was silenced. A mafia member would presume that, with their silencer dead, there should be no silenced player in the game.
But beyond that, I thought the way her recognition of my vote-signaling came off was a bit nervous. She pointed out that I'd dropped a silent vote on her, but then backtracked a little to say the issue was that I was doing this without responding to the cases that were being presented at the time. It looked to me like a player who was nervous of drawing too much of my direct attention there.

But also, after having just about everyone in the game suspect 112 to some degree, and having so many other people semi-clear themselves mechanically, my piece of Day 1 speculation just isn't carrying the same weight for me as it was 48 hours ago. The POE is dwindling, and 112 is the name closest to the top of the most lists. Sorry if we are wrong, 112, but this feels like the right move at this point.
haven't played a game with a silencer in 5+ yrs

not what i first think of
even after we saw a silencer flip the previous day?

i don't read nightfalls

make him make a useful vote for a change*

make him vote someone useful for a change

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:55 pm @112
What do I do with your ability tonight

target MR > dizzy

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:53 pm Not that anyone asked, but I'm comfortable voting 112 now after resisting it for a few reasons.

The one that put me over the top was my analysis of the response to my silencing on Day 2. 112 was the first person to point out that I was voting without posting, but she didn't seem to even consider the possibility that I was silenced. A mafia member would presume that, with their silencer dead, there should be no silenced player in the game.
But beyond that, I thought the way her recognition of my vote-signaling came off was a bit nervous. She pointed out that I'd dropped a silent vote on her, but then backtracked a little to say the issue was that I was doing this without responding to the cases that were being presented at the time. It looked to me like a player who was nervous of drawing too much of my direct attention there.

But also, after having just about everyone in the game suspect 112 to some degree, and having so many other people semi-clear themselves mechanically, my piece of Day 1 speculation just isn't carrying the same weight for me as it was 48 hours ago. The POE is dwindling, and 112 is the name closest to the top of the most lists. Sorry if we are wrong, 112, but this feels like the right move at this point.

haven't played a game with a silencer in 5+ yrs

not what i first think of

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:47 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:46 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:45 pm I need to sleep. Good night, everyone.

Sorry again for being lacklustre this game. Hope 112 is another hit.
im not
gth, who are the big bad wolves?

dizzy
made
michelle
wilgy

are my top 4

i have others in my peripheral poe but those are whom i feel most strongly about

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:45 pm I need to sleep. Good night, everyone.

Sorry again for being lacklustre this game. Hope 112 is another hit.

im not

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:24 pm That game made some people so angry they couldn't eat their cheerios.

it's in contention for best forum mafia game ever played imo, and i say that without any bias

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:21 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:18 pmgood luck guys
Thanks. Enjoy DVC.

I'm out to the store, not that my absence will really change anything.

good luck guys

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:12 pm @Dyslexicon how do you feel about this list below? Others commented on it, mostly in agreement with of course a few quibbles.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:26 pm 100% mech clear
Jack

Very likely mech clear but okay fine a tiny sliver of doubt could remain
Kyle
Long Con
tutuu

Just…super town
JPIC
Made
Syn

Mech stuff reflects well on them and have handled things in a townie way, but I guess we look here before the above groups?
Tim
Martin
Dizzy

Mostly think they’re okay on their own merits (solving etc) but I guess nothing stops them being a wolf
Michelle
Sloonei
Ted

The rest
TSP
Wilgy
Hollowkatt
112
Hyena

Let me know if I have any mech conclusions wrong.

my quibble is that you have me somehow being wolf

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:12 pm guys i think we should sleep

based

[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

hardclaiming... jester?

yeet* not user

Can't turn off autocorrect :/

Tbh just look at the names on my wagon-
Michelle, TonyStarkPrime, Made, tedxtr, Long Con, Dyslexicon, DrWilgy,

This probably contains nearly all--if not all--if the remaining wolves. They're very content with this user.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:12 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:07 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:49 pm I've been doubting my 112 read, but,

112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:37 pm I'm not gonna be very available for the rest of the day.

Feel free to keep throwing the game.
I don't know that I've ever seen 112 adopt this attitude when town.
I can link you to a recent MU turbo where I did.

Regardless- I'm not going to be around enough to mount a proper defense, and I don't know what the case against me even is.
I'm gonna feel bad if I'm wrong. You're clearly not giving it your all and that's not NAI but it can lead to bad reads so maybe I'm making one of those.

But I still expect more even from slanky villa 112. Sorry. That's annoying to hear if that's what you are, I know.

Ehh, I'm confident my reads are good. I'm just not being loud about them.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:10 pm A third general observation:

Of the parameters we can be sure of (the three scum, the dead town, a couple mech things) I do not see any Grand Wolf Agenda that people always fear exists. I see wolves who were individually working to slide by as best they could. Cat was just trying to fend off some early suss without implicating teammates. Marmot was being opportunistic in all his pushes rather than powerwolfing. Nanook was doing jack and showed no inclination to get more involved to start dictating events. Both those latter two are capable of being manipulative wolves and were not doing it. Their flipped powers were weak and were clearly not being used to further any specific agenda either.

Conversely, the dead townies were active, pushy, and correct. The wolves were being boxed out and were picking it off the Big Scary Towny Leaders as they saw them.

This suggests the wolf team that remains is not in control of this game. The town is.

Agree/disagree?

As evidenced by me being the current chop, it does not seem that the town has any reasonable degree of control.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:52 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:49 pm I've been doubting my 112 read, but,

112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:37 pm I'm not gonna be very available for the rest of the day.

Feel free to keep throwing the game.
I don't know that I've ever seen 112 adopt this attitude when town.
I wouldnt buy any AtE from her either

Didnt she make up an imaginary cat that died and said she was grieving over it in a game where she was scum and wanted an excuse to not post

Benson left a hole in all our hearts.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:49 pm I've been doubting my 112 read, but,

112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:37 pm I'm not gonna be very available for the rest of the day.

Feel free to keep throwing the game.
I don't know that I've ever seen 112 adopt this attitude when town.

I can link you to a recent MU turbo where I did.

Regardless- I'm not going to be around enough to mount a proper defense, and I don't know what the case against me even is.

I'm not gonna be very available for the rest of the day.

Feel free to keep throwing the game.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:36 am What's the case on 112? I thought they were town

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:29 am 112, Hollowkatt, Ted, Hyena, Wilgy, TSP

Thar be wolves.

im not wolf

can someone on the mafia team confirm this?

#FreeMR

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:28 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:59 pm My Sloonei suspicion is more interest than anything. But voting Martin and voting generally off wagon for Sloonei specifically does not sit that well with me.
If it wasn't obvious, I have given up on trying to Be Sloonei this game.

I was silenced for literally a full week, and then missed the majority of Day 3 as well. This town is doing just fine without me, so I'm content to spend my free time doing things other than sifting through ~500 post ISOs for relationship clues. I'm just hopping around and trying to chime in when I think it's worth doing so. But it feels nice to be taking it easy this game, and unless/until it becomes necessary to do more, I don't intend to change that. This is the exact gamestate I've been longing for for months: one in which I'm under no pressure to work hard.
Yo, this feels pure.

@112
@nutella (assuming you're still in the game)
@MacDougall (since you're alive through Tim)

Remember that detailed town read I gave Adrian early on in S6W1 where I said he was probably town just based on how genuinely relieved he sounded in his posts to have not randed mafia again? I'm getting a similar vibe from this Sloonei post.

was anyone under the serious impression that sloonei is a wolf?

@Alison take out dizzy/michelle and put me in the group

Made wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:27 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:54 am
Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:36 am
Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:28 am Uhhhh i think I just figured out what the "swing at the ball thing" is...and it might be why we're not all dead yet.

We're playing baseball against mafia.
Code: Select all
If we swing and miss, it's a strike

If it's a swing and hit the ball, they probably restarts the count (???)

If it's thrown a ball, 4 of those and they restart the count

[dead]three strikes we're out...which is probably really bad.[/dead]
(I really hope they only get a single, and not a double or a triple...or a homerun )
^^^^^^^^^

but yeah, I think i'm getting too civvie, so if anyone ask, that's my role
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... t=baseball

Here's the game I'm from btw. I don't think my role was actually in the game, but it's definitely inspired by it, right @Sloonei
oh I roll claimed a while back btw. i don't think many people saw

i thought all the roles in the game were used before?

tutuu's theory is that i bussed my whole team minus MR, whom i've expressed reservations about while not entirely discarding my townread on him

i still think she's town, but her worlds don't make sense in a way that's approaching something concerning

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:09 pm Btw 112 I targeted you N2 with something that would have affected your choice of target if you had one. Any chance you can confirm that?

the message i got back didn't necessarily imply that my target was changed, but something happened, yes

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:06 pm And yeah I got challenged at Tetris, so not sure how I can even be mafia here.

it's kinda hard to ask you to defend yourself here considering syn isn't sharing what his mech info is, but what do you make of his claim?

is he a townie who misinterpreted his mech info or do you think he's being disingenuous?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:58 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:57 pm Why are we chopping MR he apparently won tetris? Are we disbelieving this?
Syn claims he has mech info that MR is a wolf

ooo i missed this

brb isoing

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:53 pm well anyway @Jackofhearts2005 i believe kyle claims that both me and LC and ALSO falcon (the dead villager) all 3 have the same alignment unless one of us is 3p or he was roleblocked so

he just said he never said this

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:44 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:35 pmkyle later elaborated that im not connected to falcon and lc and independently he has some mech info im town
I don't remember elaborating that lol.

Dizzy's AtE is getting to me somewhat, but independent of that they're still one of the most scummy players in the game

[VOTE: dizzy] aubergine

i wouldn't chop MR today tbh

@tutuu - hollowkatt isn't my first choice but he's still in my PoE

@Master Radishes - you've suddenly gone deaf quiet on me after sussing me for most of the earlier rounds. why is this and what's your current read on me?

and i also don't see why "112 scum equity+" can be so simply derived from my hopping off the cat wagon when it was at 9-10 players strong

is it possible i tried to wifom it? yes. but it nonetheless would have been an outright bizarre play at that point and not one i think i'd be inclined to make

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:19 pm from the little I haven't repressed from SC, I think 112 look bad this game cuz in that game she was hyper self aware of how "bad" she looked. And she didn't even look very bad that game! If 112 brought up how she looked in this game in the same way she did in SC

112 in a different game wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:59 pm 112 flying under the radar, expect late game heroism
it would read out of place.

not sure what this means

i think i'm playing a decent game in terms of my reads here but would be more effective if i put more effort into casing and outlining why i think the way i do

none of this can distract us from the fact that blindly sheeping me is >rand win% for the town and therefore anyone who is differently opinionated is a negative-utility town or wolf

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:18 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:14 pm
Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:13 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:09 pm [VOTE: This space is intentionally left blank] aubergine
what was the last game you were bad in?
spiderverse
that doesn't count

not sure then

i think it was amdibals

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:16 pm I am quite frankly drained from the game for some reason in that aspect everyone should absolutely chop me despite being town

i don't know whether i like this AtE; it has a funny taste but not an outright bad one

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:48 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:33 pm 112 voted cat before mac made an argument against cat
at the time 112 was voting falcon
112 was asked why she voted cat, and she said she wanted her vote to be useful rather that voting someone she preferred (dizzy)
112 was the third vote on cat
when the wagon on cat picked up, 112 changed her vote to somewhere less useful
when 112 was wagoned day one, marmot and cat created alternate wagons (nutella & Thunnal)

112 is bad y'all wtf
@Sloonei, what's the counter argument here? sure 112 looks spewed by Cat, but 112's cat vote is still VERY weird

libel

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:13 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:09 pm [VOTE: This space is intentionally left blank] aubergine
what was the last game you were bad in?

spiderverse

[VOTE: This space is intentionally left blank] aubergine

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:12 pm [VOTE: 112] aubergine

i think scum were/are desperate and her reads are like 100% accurate coz their only chance is someone going deep

im not voting her coz i think shes scummy on like, "standard scum read"

i'm just that good actually

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:29 pm i pinky swear to all of you that radishes is a wolf

i'm starting to have doubts on him

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:02 pm Wtf. Why is tutuu a wagon?

Is it a red check? If it is, cool. If not, get off her and read the game properly.

hmmm

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