The Syndicate

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:49 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:56 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:39 pm im thinking its thunal & lorab / scotty / princess A

the rest are pretty town like, from my pov
One thing that bothers me about yesterday with you: I seem to remember you coming into d3 wanting SVS’ head; and then in d4 it felt as though she wasn’t even on your radar. What changed, if anything?
everytime I pushed for SVS, everyone ignored me. So since I wanted SVS gone, and there were votes on them already, I was cautious that if i voted, then others would unvote SVS, so instead I voted for the person I am voting for currently, Thunal. which is my biggest ping atm

Did you want SVS gone? I don't think you said anything about SVS yesterday. I thought you'd at least endorse the wagon if you wanted her gone even if you didn't vote there.

I don't like that I know nothing about DM as a player. There absolutely are players who distance a lot from their teammates and bus for little reason but I don't know if DM is one of those.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:03 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:53 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:50 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:47 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:47 pm scotty man and thunal u girltwink, can i get readslists

unordered in tiers:

Abi
Bereft
robyn
Rondo
Wilgy

DM
LoRab
Scotty

I'll get more of an order once I dig into stuff but I feel like we should look in the bottom 3 for today.
why wilgy?
He's not as town as the others not in my immediate PoE but I feel good about him. He's consistently been on the right side with Michelle, still voted SVS when it mattered, and felt like town Wilgy.
I really cant stress enough that points for the SVS kill are weird because it is actually in this setup better for wolves to kill SVS

I get that SVS was probably outed but it would still be better for wolves to kill a townie.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:49 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:56 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:39 pm im thinking its thunal & lorab / scotty / princess A

the rest are pretty town like, from my pov
One thing that bothers me about yesterday with you: I seem to remember you coming into d3 wanting SVS’ head; and then in d4 it felt as though she wasn’t even on your radar. What changed, if anything?
everytime I pushed for SVS, everyone ignored me. So since I wanted SVS gone, and there were votes on them already, I was cautious that if i voted, then others would unvote SVS, so instead I voted for the person I am voting for currently, Thunal. which is my biggest ping atm

Afaik I was your biggest ping since I voted two town wagons and robyn/cape who also did aren't wolves. Now that I was on SVS not just yesterday but most of the day before does that change anything?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:02 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:56 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:08 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:06 pm another way to justify the poe is to realize that yeah lol, cape isnt the NK here unless mafia has literally just been checked out.

its really not that hard
I think it’s blatantly obvious mafia are in a funk, or just not participating.

SVS and Michelle could both be classified as such. Abbi is the outlier in that she’s been around, but hasn’t been a part of the pushes save for the whole ‘Michelle is bad yall’ right before EoD.

Lorab would fit exactly with that mentality of mafia throwing in the towel.
Nah I feel quite good about Abi. She's one of my most confident towns.
Why, because of interactions with Michelle?

What makes that not a bus?

I think there's spew that looks good from her side like her feeling defensive responding to you and a thin townread for solving that ime happens more often from wolves on villagers.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:08 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:06 pm another way to justify the poe is to realize that yeah lol, cape isnt the NK here unless mafia has literally just been checked out.

its really not that hard
I think it’s blatantly obvious mafia are in a funk, or just not participating.

SVS and Michelle could both be classified as such. Abbi is the outlier in that she’s been around, but hasn’t been a part of the pushes save for the whole ‘Michelle is bad yall’ right before EoD.

Lorab would fit exactly with that mentality of mafia throwing in the towel.

Nah I feel quite good about Abi. She's one of my most confident towns.

robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:53 pm thunal, can i call u a girltwink

Sure, why not.

robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:51 pm wait it’s d5 right?

Yeah it is.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:50 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:47 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:47 pm scotty man and thunal u girltwink, can i get readslists

unordered in tiers:

Abi
Bereft
robyn
Rondo
Wilgy

DM
LoRab
Scotty

I'll get more of an order once I dig into stuff but I feel like we should look in the bottom 3 for today.
why wilgy?

He's not as town as the others not in my immediate PoE but I feel good about him. He's consistently been on the right side with Michelle, still voted SVS when it mattered, and felt like town Wilgy.

Pretty sure we can't say if we received a message.

robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:47 pm scotty man and thunal u girltwink, can i get readslists

unordered in tiers:

Abi
Bereft
robyn
Rondo
Wilgy

DM
LoRab
Scotty

I'll get more of an order once I dig into stuff but I feel like we should look in the bottom 3 for today.

I think SVS fits as a wolf really well. Michelle didn't interact with her until she was asked to read her ISO and then she had basically nothing to say. She had no problem shading a lot of other people but even though SVS was widely suspected she didn't try to pressure her at all.

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:51 pm Do Michelle and Scotty fit together as mafia teammates?

From Michelle

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Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:28 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:26 pm At this point, willing to switch Scotty for really exploding my confusion with LC and LC to its max potential.
Did you answer my question?
How many games you played with Long Con?
You said he sems towny in this game, can you explain more?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:11 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:09 pm Nah, twirl that. I don’t have flightplan to detail back 8 popsicles so I’m gonna presume a few noodlebrains:

-Rainbow is laughing JJJ as OMGUS
-JJJ is juicing Rainbow as a margarine vote. I’m optional to trail his chimney atm because he courted pretty mundane end of resistance in my reread
-Rondo is voting JJJ because Rondo
-Flutterby is froglegs for [reasons]
-no fence new has laughed in

Am I tired yet?
Who are you and what you did with Scotty?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:33 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:25 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:11 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:09 pm Nah, twirl that. I don’t have flightplan to detail back 8 popsicles so I’m gonna presume a few noodlebrains:

-Rainbow is laughing JJJ as OMGUS
-JJJ is juicing Rainbow as a margarine vote. I’m optional to trail his chimney atm because he courted pretty mundane end of resistance in my reread
-Rondo is voting JJJ because Rondo
-Flutterby is froglegs for [reasons]
-no fence new has laughed in

Am I tired yet?
Who are you and what you did with Scotty?
Haha Matches had a jellybean.

But like, for the most potion I don’t bite I’m that whoopee to bleach. Gopher are your scumreads besides JJJ?"
I think I understood this one.
Give me time to construct a Poe, I need at least 12 hours from now on

Virtually nothing. Perhaps that initial response to cursed Scotty is cheeky playfulness against a town victim, but I'm not comfortable trusting that read.

From Scotty

Spoiler: show
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:15 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:02 pm When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia
Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.
Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.
You don't seem too confident here tho
That declaration is me feeling confident. Not sure what you mean

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:22 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:45 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:40 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:04 pm Scotty is having gripes with people for the sake of having gripes with people and if he's town here, it needs to stop ASAP, because I don't see myself townreading the slot if this keeps up.
Hol up

What is having gripes?

I am firmly on the hot seat and need to parse those voting me as either manipulative or genuine.

Either way, there were 5 people voting me and all are dead wrong, so of course I was having gripes. And I will continue to have gripes, thank you very much. I might have so many gripes they’ll turn into grapes and I’ll eat them
I see now a wagon of 3, who was voting you before?
I had 5 at some point- if I recall, cape, Robyn, JJJ, thunal, bereft. Now add PA and SVS.

So almost half the players have voted me thus far this game

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:39 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:37 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:22 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:21 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:13 pm So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.
Without reads I can vote using RNG, its god said Long Con is scum.
Yeah, Long Con being scum was so last game though.... this time around, not feeling his wolf energy.
How many games you played with LC?
Jinx

But really though, I think….this might be a scumslip
Long Con was town in DM’s only game on this site. This could legit be a slip that she is in BTSC with LC and had a perspective slip

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:58 pm Ok I gotta go and have an appointment before eod

Current working theory is DM and LC are mafia.
Can throw SVS in there too, though DM’s push on SVS would be almost clearing of SVS if DM flips bad. 4th can be…LoRab. I could be wrong on the latter, with 3 missingno’s. TBD

If I still go over, it’s been real. Cape needs to get off his high horse but I still feel like he is in a genuine tunnel and not just pushing me for shits. Please be easy on him.
Thunal has been quite waffly on me all game, which makes me want to just townread them. It would be easier to just jump on my wagon, but I feel like they’re really considering if my actions/reads have been forced or whatever. Making a town.
Princess Abigail I have already talked about- town.

JJJ can be resolved in a couple days. Again, if he doesn’t have a pelt by D3, and he’s still alive, get rid of him. Please.

Others:
Bereft and Robyn are either both town or one is fooling the other. I could be convinced that one is pocketing the other. I do not townread bereft yet. I’m a little biased but I feel like he’s been blunt to a point regarding me.

Wilgy has made some questionable impressions in the thread- I feel like he’s picking the wagons, making one minor point about them, and then making broad reads based on it. It doesn’t feel like actual solving yet. Prime candidate for info tonite tho.

Michelle’s entrance into the game is…fine. I guess. Not much presence. prob town.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:29 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:28 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:26 pm At this point, willing to switch Scotty for really exploding my confusion with LC and LC to its max potential.
Did you answer my question?
How many games you played with Long Con?
You said he sems towny in this game, can you explain more?
Sounds like she was confusing him with Lime Coke

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:21 pm I’ve perused back the last thirty moments of the sun gobble I can only doodle that to be one of the flibber, bungle endings to a giggle I can hummingbird. Whirlwind is an absolute harmony jester and I have no riddle if that is to be mirrored in his arrangement. Rainbow begs to be decoded and I would be vaporizing something if she wasn’t rescued yesterday. Because if Rainbow is boozy, JJJ is purported good, which would be wildly useful.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:49 pm Hi jellybeans.

I’m like 8 popsicles behind and don’t grasp if it’s been wrapped yet but has anyone crusted why we have a 1-blast wiggly that didn’t bamboozle last night? I reload wolves could have been guarded, but the optimal Bagpipe I feel like was to bamboozle either an inactive or blank the counter cartwheel- Michelle.

This creates me feel like the wiggly is an inactive.

Ok, bicycle to catching up. I marking ton of toilet time market but I have Argyle.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:25 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:11 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:09 pm Nah, twirl that. I don’t have flightplan to detail back 8 popsicles so I’m gonna presume a few noodlebrains:

-Rainbow is laughing JJJ as OMGUS
-JJJ is juicing Rainbow as a margarine vote. I’m optional to trail his chimney atm because he courted pretty mundane end of resistance in my reread
-Rondo is voting JJJ because Rondo
-Flutterby is froglegs for [reasons]
-no fence new has laughed in

Am I tired yet?
Who are you and what you did with Scotty?
Haha Matches had a jellybean.

But like, for the most potion I don’t bite I’m that whoopee to bleach. Gopher are your scumreads besides JJJ?"

There's just not a whole lot here. Scotty's vote for Michelle today is a nice touch for dissociation, but I feel the urge to be careful with that given the gamestate coming out of EOD1.

~~~

Compatible, though if you asked me for a GTH read it'd be "I don't think they're teamed". I might give their space an even softer green in the table instead of hard yellow.

I don't think the posts here from Michelle on Scotty are strongly AI for Scotty but there were a couple I thought looked decent for him.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:24 pm Scotty posts coloured like parrot feathers and i have little understanding for the meaning of what I read, idk what to do but I'd say he seems to try a solve so it's more towny than not

This sort of easy read tends to be made on townies.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:33 pm I think I understood this one.
Give me time to construct a Poe, I need at least 12 hours from now on

Also slightly good for Scotty that Michelle is asking him to give her time.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm
Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.
You don't seem too confident here tho

This seems like subtly trying to shade him.

Also, I'm jealous of Jay's ability to format walls so they're seen.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:36 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:55 am Guys I'm really sorry, for some reason I am very demoralized right now. Maybe being suspected after literally making one or two posts (for an actual not real reason) then every time I try to explain where I'm coming from, well I can't do it without mentioning Scotty, and he's like fucking Beetlejuice lol.

I had mostly town reads this whole game. Right now I am one zillion percent not caught up.

Town

Robyn, Cape, Rondo. I feel Befert for reasons, some things they've said . Maybe cause Robyn vouches, and I guess they know each other that well? I also feel Abi is town, but that could be a warm fuzzy cause she t/r'ed me early. I find it super unlikely I'll vote for these people. Or even impossible.

Not Sure, no reason to town read these people, but no reason to wolf read them either.

Thunal, Wilgy, they both seem in their possible town meta as I've observed it, Wilgy tries a bit more to act innocuous when he's bad, and Thunal is a bit more level when she's bad, imo. But they've both fooled me, and rather spectacularly might I add lol

Iffy imo (if it's possible Conf Bias, I'll note it):

Darling (possible conf bias), I'm not sure why Jay was so sure of towniness here, maybe cause Darling bolstered his hypotheses? At one point I thought DM and Jay could be the BTS roles, but apparently not. Scotty, I just can't shake it tbh. And the uber aggro way he comes at me every time I say "beetlejuice", um, Scotty, yeah, that's it.

I have no clue:

T's (it appears they've shown up, but I haven't read their posts yet) and LoRab. I doubt LoRab is gonna show, and that makes me sad, maybe more sad than people trying to wagon her on Hanukkah. But that's also based on personal info that I'm fairly sure no one else in game had. LC prolly knew but he was dead. On the night y'all were trying to lynch her, she was having her head shaved as part of a fund raiser for a childrens cancer charity. So I was in here watching pitchforks get shaken at her, and then on social watching her do good in the real world. So I kinda got salty and over reacted I guess.

And someone in my @'s said something about how my Michelle vote was too little too late or something to that effect.

I baldly stated I wanted to save LoRab regardless of affiliation, I wasn't exactly having a ball in here, lol, and wanted to make sure that LoRab wagon hadn't formed before I voted. I voted left the thread and apparently missed the LoRab wagon that subsequently formed.

I'll be back after work to hopefully read some more (like T's posts) and vote.
Don't think W SVS makes this post. If we go with a missing slot, we don't hit SVS.

I don't think that's towny frustration. Wolf SVS could just as easily (or more easily) be demoralized and also not want to kill LoRab because she's busy irl.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:23 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:59 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:27 pm Robyn, Cape, Bereft, and Abi I have as my towncore rn. Abi singlehandedly changing the elim to Michelle and her play shielding SVS makes me feel very good about her.
Excuse me?
Still don't know how I am not in this list

I think you're town but you're a tier below that in confidence.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:46 am Is DM scotty svs viable?

That would be a lot of distancing. Distancing/bussing is plausible, but I don't think all three just decided to distance really hard and push each other.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:34 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:42 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:15 am Anyway, will read rest later- doing a full day road trip

Vote SVS with me
Why do you want SVS today?
I did a lot of thinking last night and it just feels right

I think her little dejected post yesterday was tugging at my heartstrings and in hindsight, this isn’t the town SVS I’ve come to know. Could she just not have the time and it is affecting her play regardless of alignment? Yeah, sure.

But feel really good with her at least. I feel like it will open up the game if I’m right

Can you answer why you voted LoRab over Michelle even though you were weirded out by people moving away from Michelle?

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:34 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:42 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:15 am Anyway, will read rest later- doing a full day road trip

Vote SVS with me
Why do you want SVS today?
I did a lot of thinking last night and it just feels right

I think her little dejected post yesterday was tugging at my heartstrings and in hindsight, this isn’t the town SVS I’ve come to know. Could she just not have the time and it is affecting her play regardless of alignment? Yeah, sure.

But feel really good with her at least. I feel like it will open up the game if I’m right

SVS once described her mafia play to me as blending in and not ruffling feathers. I've absolutely seen that this game even when she had time. I find both of you suspicious and I'm still working out who I want to vote.

I had some tinfoil on Wilgy and while I still do, I feel better reading his ISO and he's not someone I'd vote today.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:23 pm Michelle is, underwhelming, but I can at least see where t Michelle sees Robyns inquiry towards J as weird.

I wouldn't yeet.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:35 pm [VOTE: Michelle ] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:36 pm Michelle has parsable data, Seanzoe doesn't.

He changed his mind on Michelle day 1 because he didn't want the zero poster dead but I'm wondering if it makes sense for him as a wolf. If he had voted Seanzie I feel like JJJ and others would know he wouldn't want to kill the zero poster. Still, he could have just not voted.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:52 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:30 am Anyways, I think DrWigly is town for the way he handled EOD yesterday

@DrWilgy Can I ask why you scumread robyn? They are probably my top townread right now
Robyn is aware enough to point out that I've observed the dichotomy between them and Bereft. Energy level is not what I associate with T Robyn. Movement on poll is very forceful.

If they get a pelt doing as they do, fine, but until they flip someone, or flip themselves, it's hard to not observe such a heavy hand with interactions as such with Bereft and not see it as knowing.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 10:27 am

Your interactions seem to vary as much as anything else, but I feel as if I've seen it more from W Robyn.

I've never seen passive Robyn flipped d1 and not been town.

Those aspects are very minute in where I see you falling though. I could just as easily start yelling Bereft's the wolf and there'd only be a 10% difference between you, until I have known cause of the dichotomy.

Other aspects such as wagons/patterns I'll likely review later to see if this guy feeling matches reality.

I think Wilgy pushing robyn here before doing analysis is a good look. It seems very disconnected from the thread.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:31 am The amount of people including me in their town reads reeks of agenda.

This is a blanket statement that I’m a little wary of. Usually this kind of statement includes exactly who has the agenda townreading him.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 1:01 pm @Michelle I've reviewed and still think that my vote on you makes sense for reasons I've stated previously. Allow me to explain more precisely on some things.
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:51 pm You force me to self press on Sean
This post was the first indication of you desiring to place a vote anywhere, it wasn't caused by hunting but a justification of a vote that needed none as there was nothing to justify against.

It's not like you had stated "I want to vote X but you force me to vote Y" where the justification would've made sense.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:26 pm [VOTE: Jay] aubergine

Since you complained about Omgus, take it
Your next indication of vote/suspicion was more silliness and this was in spite of being a d1 counter wagon that you were cognisant of.

Following this, I've still not seen a legitimate suspicion or signs of hunting from your slot. You seem mostly fixated on Jay (which is fine, I too am fixated on Jay for other reasons) but there's nothing besides that present.

I think this is pretty good nuance and slightly town AI.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:58 pm I'd quicker toss Bereft, SVS or Jay.

Do not toss the afk slot two days in a row, please.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:01 pm Stop letting Robyn, Thunal and Michelle yeet afk slots for free.

Not wanting to kill the afk is good. This casual mention of robyn and me here feels a little sudden.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:15 am [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

Goodnight.

I don’t think the push on me is a wolfy push especially from someone who’s disconnected from the thread.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:31 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:25 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:22 pm I was asleep all day and now we yeeting ts.

Which is fine, but surprised to see such a dynamic shift.
Not sure it was a dynamic shift, since the threadstate was against me from the beginning

I guess I just dug my hole deeper, which really feels like I'm getting punished for trying to help? At this point it feels town is set in their path tho and fate is deterministic

Just unlucky
It's hard. We have 0 data on you and your lim makes sense with the exception of you cracking the game open. My advise if you are town is to work on the best legacy possible as that'd help us once we have your true alignment.

If you are town I appreciate your efforts.

Imo, being fine with the ts elim could go either way.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:53 pm I just went through Jay's ISO flipping through the last few posts to reacquaint myself with the game.

SVS and TS account were on both yeet lists. This is the way.

I do question a little why he didn’t check Jay’s reads earlier than this if he was going to weigh them.

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Ultimately I think him voting Michelle both d1 and d2 is a good look for him. His approach to the game is more consistent with town Wilgy and the few points against him are smaller than the points for him. I'd reevaluate him if the game is shown to be hard but I wouldn't be willing to vote him today.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:32 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:27 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:56 pm Also, unless Robyn would like to come out here and explain to me exactly what teams they think are plausible from J^3's POE, I will be frankly ignoring that until I can come to a reasonably informed view of the game before I revisit J^3's magnum opus.
The odds of JJJ getting a correct PoE of 6 are really small. That's why I've seen extremely good townies complain that it's easy to clear one wolf and then town will follow the wrong legacy. I don't think there are three in LoRab, Scotty, SVS, and Abigail and I'm going to look outside it today.
Do you trust me?

No, I really don't.

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:50 pm Can I get everyone's two most confident townreads?
Specifically asking the POE here.

besides Robyn/Cape stuff

@Scotty
@DarlingMonroe
@LoRab
@DrWilgy
@S~V~S
@Thunal33

you/Abi.

Robyn, Cape, Bereft, and Abi I have as my towncore rn. Abi singlehandedly changing the elim to Michelle and her play shielding SVS makes me feel very good about her.

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:58 pm I'm going to do this backwards and try to find 4 town then.

I'm going to assume Rondo is one of them, don't know where, but I will try to find the remaining 3.

Are you counting robyn and Cape? Because I'm pretty sure they should be strong town.

Michelle spew from Scotty's side:

Spoiler: show

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:15 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:02 pm When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia
Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.
Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.
You don't seem too confident here tho
That declaration is me feeling confident. Not sure what you mean

Slight + for Scotty.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:22 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:45 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:40 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:04 pm Scotty is having gripes with people for the sake of having gripes with people and if he's town here, it needs to stop ASAP, because I don't see myself townreading the slot if this keeps up.
Hol up

What is having gripes?

I am firmly on the hot seat and need to parse those voting me as either manipulative or genuine.

Either way, there were 5 people voting me and all are dead wrong, so of course I was having gripes. And I will continue to have gripes, thank you very much. I might have so many gripes they’ll turn into grapes and I’ll eat them
I see now a wagon of 3, who was voting you before?
I had 5 at some point- if I recall, cape, Robyn, JJJ, thunal, bereft. Now add PA and SVS.

So almost half the players have voted me thus far this game

Idle chat, slight -.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:39 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:37 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:22 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:21 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:13 pm So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.
Without reads I can vote using RNG, its god said Long Con is scum.
Yeah, Long Con being scum was so last game though.... this time around, not feeling his wolf energy.
How many games you played with LC?
Jinx

But really though, I think….this might be a scumslip
Long Con was town in DM’s only game on this site. This could legit be a slip that she is in BTSC with LC and had a perspective slip

I think this is good for Scotty. He told this to Michelle and wolf partners often don’t bother trying to convince each other.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:58 pm Ok I gotta go and have an appointment before eod

Current working theory is DM and LC are mafia.
Can throw SVS in there too, though DM’s push on SVS would be almost clearing of SVS if DM flips bad. 4th can be…LoRab. I could be wrong on the latter, with 3 missingno’s. TBD

If I still go over, it’s been real. Cape needs to get off his high horse but I still feel like he is in a genuine tunnel and not just pushing me for shits. Please be easy on him.
Thunal has been quite waffly on me all game, which makes me want to just townread them. It would be easier to just jump on my wagon, but I feel like they’re really considering if my actions/reads have been forced or whatever. Making a town.
Princess Abigail I have already talked about- town.

JJJ can be resolved in a couple days. Again, if he doesn’t have a pelt by D3, and he’s still alive, get rid of him. Please.

Others:
Bereft and Robyn are either both town or one is fooling the other. I could be convinced that one is pocketing the other. I do not townread bereft yet. I’m a little biased but I feel like he’s been blunt to a point regarding me.

Wilgy has made some questionable impressions in the thread- I feel like he’s picking the wagons, making one minor point about them, and then making broad reads based on it. It doesn’t feel like actual solving yet. Prime candidate for info tonite tho.

Michelle’s entrance into the game is…fine. I guess. Not much presence. prob town.

Slight - imo. I don’t see why he needed to comment on Michelle here.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:21 pm I’ve perused back the last thirty moments of the sun gobble I can only doodle that to be one of the flibber, bungle endings to a giggle I can hummingbird. Whirlwind is an absolute harmony jester and I have no riddle if that is to be mirrored in his arrangement. Rainbow begs to be decoded and I would be vaporizing something if she wasn’t rescued yesterday. Because if Rainbow is boozy, JJJ is purported good, which would be wildly useful.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I’m not trying to read this, but I think opening with a vote on Michelle is slightly good.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:53 pm [VOTE: Bereft] aubergine

Then he switches to Bereft when the wagons were split. Bad look imo.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:51 pm I glow crab is this contextually the fizzy we can stir walnut?

[VOTE: Lorab] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:08 pm [VOTE: Bereft] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:26 pm peeky
Will sled in morn

Vote lorab

It seems like he wanted Bereft as his #1 vote target but was willing to settle for LoRab.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:13 pm
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Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:45 pm Looking at LoRab voters: (Hopefully stuff formats correctly)

Bereft:

I think Bereft's read on Scotty/LoRab is actually kind of towny and the world he presented with them and the strong language he used to make his argument #2496/#2517. All this despite his resistance to the Michelle wagon which to me kind of read as scummy #2476/#2477. But like even that is kinda towny on virtue of being this sort of stream of consciousness type of way. I like his confidence on his Rondo townread also.
Sidenote: I was getting kind of worried about Rondo just powerwolfing based on the pushes that he's done earlier, but have felt better about Rondo as he started talking more throughout the day, like for me, my thinking on Rondo went from "he's town" to "eh, like he could just be trying to eliminate towns through pushing whatever" back to "he's town" in short.
I kind of think #2342 was weak on a gut level.
Also Bereft saying the current wagons are bad but then suggesting ts account as a top wolf was funny to me (#2335) with the linked 2342, which is part of the reason why I have my issues with Bereft to be completely honest. Though I will say I don't mind the notion that Scotty could be mafia.
I think beyond this point, I do not really get like a whole lot out of Bereft's day 2, but I am in the zone of thinking he believes what he says which to me is a good look even with my said qualms there.

DarlingMonroe:

Despite seemingly also suspecting Michelle, DarlingMonroe was on LoRab. DM was also voting/tinfoiling Bereft which I find interesting... probably slightly towny. I randomly like #2191 even though I am also left a tad confused by it, but it does show a confidence in their own words. #2167 sort of pinged me when it came to Bereft, like in the sort of way where DarlingMonroe was pushing Bereft on the virtue that he is a strong player. On top of that if his thought processes throughout the game come across in the same exact way as Thunal's, wouldn't this be a cause for concern for DarlingMonroe?
#2166 I am also slightly concerned about because is seems like DM is calling Princess Abigail town only because she didn't ping them as much as the other four DM listed, which isn't really a real read on Princess Abigail.

OKAY I HAVE A POSSIBLY SILLY QUESTION
In #2127 DarlingMonroe says "And I understand LoRab is busy IRL..." right? So is this a scumslip? I mean you could maybe assume as much from them not showing up to the thread, but they haven't completely said outright that they were busy IRL directly so maybe they got the hear from LoRab from... somewhere else? Dun dun dun.
IDK if I actually believe that.
Uh.
Anyways...
#2103 points out all the no voters that were not voting day 2 in a... lateish stage. Also if S~V~S is actually mafia, DarlingMonroe is ALWAYS just town for #849.
Thinking lightly town just off last game when they were town were basically not voted off because of their PR claim, despite honestly not being all that towny (this is from the perspective of me being mafia though). Also I saw more OMGUS going on with her in her previous towngame which idk if that's like a reliable thing.

SIDENOTE: #2151 from S~V~S seems sketchy to me, though they voted Michelle.

Scotty:

The completely cursed slot himself, making hard to dechipher posts. Kinda found what he was trying to communicate from what I deciphered to be just kind of in the zone of "blendy okayness" IE: #2178 him questioning Thunal here I believe.
I'm guessing the curse is a thing that could be for anything, I think if Michelle flipped villager, this is exactly where I think mafia would be, but now with the flip, I am not so sure. Like I am sure scotty could maybe talk them out of sus better then Michelle, but it could also mean that Scotty is a mafia PR more powerful then Michelle, like maybe a Rupert...
Scotty did start day 2 by voting Michelle.
Going back to day 1 #1046 pinged me, especially if niche=michelle idk. Like mafia would talk to their partners in that way in a freak outty type of way. I find it rather sloppy also that Scotty asked about why people thought Seanzie was a hit, then to tell people to go on Seanzie because he trusted the wagon composition there more then Michelle wagon (comprised of Rondo/Neon/JJJ/DrWilgy, who ALL VOTED MICHELLE DAY 2 AS WELL) (PS: Thanks Rondo for that spreadsheet thing). ALSO #738 this aside is actually really scummy because it goes against his snap decision that "oh kill Seanzie because I like wagon comp on there" thing that he talked about, like ew.
Do not feel so great about #893 just in retrospect and the halphazard Michelle townread he slapped at the end here. Had LC and DM as mafia at the time, insert bad WIFOMy read that Scotty doesn't kill LC because of this.
I feel like if Scotty is mafia, I kinda feel like they might have misused the curse thing because it feels more right to let Scotty talk himself out of being sussed as mafia and to give Michelle the cursed thing? I cannot help but to have that little voice in my head that says that, but I do find Scotty suspicious otherwise for this and already said day 1 reasons. I just hope he can actually communicate today and maybe point to important points he made day 2 or whatever that he wants to be clear, if this is an all game thing, oh boy.

Thunal33:

Thunal kept defending Michelle... interestingly, but I don't think it's outing for reasons. Mostly with how much detail Thunal was putting into continuously talking about Michelle.
Thunal talked about how town is controlling the thread even though they have also talked about not liking the wagons being like 2/2/2 at the time.
I believe the talking that was going on with Princess Abigail is not w/w with Abigail. #2015 is kinda a lame defense of Michelle if you actually read what Michelle is saying there, which I have my doubts that Thunal really did there...
I like Thunal in the #1737 chain of confidence here in terms of their robyn read.
Overall I could see this as wolf, but I am not super convinced for reasons. Like I see Abigail's readslist, then subsequent vote on Michelle and just thinking of those 2 things, like I would have to check back and see what Abigail did in that span of time in developing her read on Michelle if that happened but it does raise concerns just because I don't remember things.

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Which kinda transitions into I think some funny business might be happening with the wagons. As I pointed out earlier, day 1 had 4 people on the Michelle wagon, and those SAME 4 people are also there day 2, Rondo almost wasn't. Which just seems oddly consistent to me. And LoRab is certainly not towny which makes me question things. I certainly like the names on Michelle technically more then LoRab, my only decent TR on there is Bereft, and those aren't as strong as robyn/JJJ/Rondo on the Michelle wagon so that could also be a sign. Uh yeah wanted to check Abigail specifically next because if there was a bus there, it's like I would likely look there first or S~V~S on like an off chance it's DrWilgy (i feel like i have paid the least attention to Wilgy to be honest so it would probably be fine to check here after Abigail even though my gut says I TR him). This is some food for thought, I am busy tonight, finals week is so much fun!

Holy anal sis wall bat man !

Another day another Cape suspicion

RE: me - yesterday was almost a wash for me, and I have to agree with you, because even I felt blendy in the most unblendy way possible. It was truly *exhausting* to post, and it definitely reflected in my contributions. As a voyeur, not only was I behind, but even if people were able to get through my bullshit, it wasn’t worth the effort to try and clarify bits and pieces. JJJ only got maybe a fraction of what I was saying so my posts were more frustration than solving, so me pointing to specific points today is probably more PTSD because I don’t even want to look at that shit again.

RE: my Seanzie vote- I don’t remember pitching people to vote Seanzie, I just hopped on in the last bit with a split decision to vote him because you/robyn/JJJ were voting there. DESPITE the fact that I definitely was advocating against it to (Jjj?) earlier. It was more of a unifying vote as opposed to stray, ya feel?

Here’s a summary of my Day 2 in my head:
I was settled on Michelle as the counter wagon for almost the entire day, then I started getting cold feett with the big talkers basically controlling the thread and bereft was the one that just seemed like he was on the outside, keeping his vote open, being *there* but I couldn’t pinpoint him as leading any charges. It was the most blendy high posting job of this garm, and a part of me was thinking both Lorab and Michelle were just t/t.

I was able to come in the last 10 min to see a movement on Lorab/michelle. I don’t even know what the count was, but it seemed like there was some squirrelly shit happening with others trying to launch away from Michelle. And I picked wrong! Again!

I came into today thinking Lorax is basically cleared. Is she not? If not, why?

I wanna start cleaning people,and her wagon forming against Michele screams patsy (yes I know I voted there)

I think his reasoning for going after Bereft wasn’t bad, but I don’t get why he voted LoRab when he was weirded out by people trying to go away from Michelle.

Overall I think Scotty and Michelle fit from Scotty's side. On Day 1 there were a couple good looking interactions, like Scotty telling Michelle about DM's scumslip. But I don't understand his reasoning for voting LoRab over Michelle at all. If he's weirded out by people moving away from Michelle the natural reaction would be to vote Michelle.

@Scotty why did that make you vote loRab?

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:15 am Anyway, will read rest later- doing a full day road trip

Vote SVS with me

Why do you want SVS today?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:51 am
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S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:55 am Guys I'm really sorry, for some reason I am very demoralized right now. Maybe being suspected after literally making one or two posts (for an actual not real reason) then every time I try to explain where I'm coming from, well I can't do it without mentioning Scotty, and he's like fucking Beetlejuice lol.

I had mostly town reads this whole game. Right now I am one zillion percent not caught up.

Town

Robyn, Cape, Rondo. I feel Befert for reasons, some things they've said . Maybe cause Robyn vouches, and I guess they know each other that well? I also feel Abi is town, but that could be a warm fuzzy cause she t/r'ed me early. I find it super unlikely I'll vote for these people. Or even impossible.

Not Sure, no reason to town read these people, but no reason to wolf read them either.

Thunal, Wilgy, they both seem in their possible town meta as I've observed it, Wilgy tries a bit more to act innocuous when he's bad, and Thunal is a bit more level when she's bad, imo. But they've both fooled me, and rather spectacularly might I add lol

Iffy imo (if it's possible Conf Bias, I'll note it):

Darling (possible conf bias), I'm not sure why Jay was so sure of towniness here, maybe cause Darling bolstered his hypotheses? At one point I thought DM and Jay could be the BTS roles, but apparently not. Scotty, I just can't shake it tbh. And the uber aggro way he comes at me every time I say "beetlejuice", um, Scotty, yeah, that's it.

I have no clue:

T's (it appears they've shown up, but I haven't read their posts yet) and LoRab. I doubt LoRab is gonna show, and that makes me sad, maybe more sad than people trying to wagon her on Hanukkah. But that's also based on personal info that I'm fairly sure no one else in game had. LC prolly knew but he was dead. On the night y'all were trying to lynch her, she was having her head shaved as part of a fund raiser for a childrens cancer charity. So I was in here watching pitchforks get shaken at her, and then on social watching her do good in the real world. So I kinda got salty and over reacted I guess.

And someone in my @'s said something about how my Michelle vote was too little too late or something to that effect.

I baldly stated I wanted to save LoRab regardless of affiliation, I wasn't exactly having a ball in here, lol, and wanted to make sure that LoRab wagon hadn't formed before I voted. I voted left the thread and apparently missed the LoRab wagon that subsequently formed.

I'll be back after work to hopefully read some more (like T's posts) and vote.
I will say I don't think S~V~S/LoRab are w/w because of this particular comment

Other then that, this list is very... whatever and generic

That was my initial thought, but I'm kind of going back on it. I think whatever code SVS has for not killing people who are busy irl would apply regardless of the other person's alignment. I don't think it's teammate indicative, but I don't think it prevents them from being teamed.

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:02 pm yeah i wonder what @Thunal33 thinks

About the no NK? I don't have any special insight on it.

Other than that it brings us to odds and gets us another ML so it's really good.

Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:27 pm Michelle spew is a thing that exists. I don't remember if anyone did it or not, so someone should do it please. I may or may not.

I did. I think she disconnected or at least tried to disconnect from her teammates.

Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:56 pm Also, unless Robyn would like to come out here and explain to me exactly what teams they think are plausible from J^3's POE, I will be frankly ignoring that until I can come to a reasonably informed view of the game before I revisit J^3's magnum opus.

The odds of JJJ getting a correct PoE of 6 are really small. That's why I've seen extremely good townies complain that it's easy to clear one wolf and then town will follow the wrong legacy. I don't think there are three in LoRab, Scotty, SVS, and Abigail and I'm going to look outside it today.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:24 pm wait, so no night kill?

also at least one wolf in: Bereft, Cape, Robyn or Thunal.

They are the only ones who voted to lynch town twice: seanzie and ts account,

I really don't think this is good reasoning. I don't think being off wagon on the ts account vote is towny since so many people were on it and nobody actually pushed back against it.

Also I'm finally done with the semester so I can obvtown myself.

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:58 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:56 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:54 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:53 pm I'm also struggling to explain my reasons. He feels off and like he's focused on survival while trying not to be but I don't have a super strong case.
yeah it feels textbook wolfy to me, but also not in an outed way
Yeah, normally I have time to actually comb through his posts and get concrete reasons behind my gut. I don't like being rushed at EoD.
apologies, solve svs and scotty tmw and i believe you can obv town yourself by that, and by making a decision

you should have more confidence just in general

Nah it's not you rushing me at EoD, it's just that I always feel rushed because of deadlines.

Robyn, Cape, and Rondo are my top town rn.

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:54 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:53 pm I'm also struggling to explain my reasons. He feels off and like he's focused on survival while trying not to be but I don't have a super strong case.
What have I done to make you think I'm trying not to focus on survival? Because I assure you I am

The tangents like you asking if Abi is Hapi. Some of your play feels like you're trying to put on a show of solving.

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:54 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:53 pm I'm also struggling to explain my reasons. He feels off and like he's focused on survival while trying not to be but I don't have a super strong case.
yeah it feels textbook wolfy to me, but also not in an outed way

Yeah, normally I have time to actually comb through his posts and get concrete reasons behind my gut. I don't like being rushed at EoD.

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:53 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:52 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:49 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:48 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:48 pm thunal what's your read on ts account, purely by tone
I feel like he's mafia.
you've been reserved about it

is that bc you're extremely low ego as a mafia player

or bc defending michelle has you extra cautious now?
A little bit of that, I'm not terribly confident, and I also don't think I *need* to push him atp.
and you would if votes were tied by #2 poe?

I probably would.

I'm also struggling to explain my reasons. He feels off and like he's focused on survival while trying not to be but I don't have a super strong case.

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:49 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:48 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:48 pm thunal what's your read on ts account, purely by tone
I feel like he's mafia.
you've been reserved about it

is that bc you're extremely low ego as a mafia player

or bc defending michelle has you extra cautious now?

A little bit of that, I'm not terribly confident, and I also don't think I *need* to push him atp.

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:48 pm thunal what's your read on ts account, purely by tone

I feel like he's mafia.

Yeah if ts is wolf I feel very good about Abi being town.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:35 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:33 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:29 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:23 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:22 pm I was asleep all day and now we yeeting ts.

Which is fine, but surprised to see such a dynamic shift.
oh i got the wagon in like 30-45 minutes from a 0 wagon
Oh cool. Good job.
Hi Wilgy. Where is your head at other than me?
No thoughts really.

PoE is you, Robyn, Abigail, TS > Bereft, SVS, Rondo?

Head is too foggy for my brain to come to further thoughts.

Robyn and Rondo I don't get at all rn. Why do you have them in your PoE?

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:40 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:40 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:39 pm Sorry, who is neon
Princess Abigail
Are they AKA Hapi?

I think so since it's under the AKA in her MU profile.

If ts account flips wolf then Scotty's wolf equity goes up and there's probably a late busser in that world, maybe DM if Scotty is wolf or SVS if Scotty is town.

If ts account flips town I'd look at SVS first and possibly LoRab.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:29 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:23 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:22 pm I was asleep all day and now we yeeting ts.

Which is fine, but surprised to see such a dynamic shift.
oh i got the wagon in like 30-45 minutes from a 0 wagon
Oh cool. Good job.

Hi Wilgy. Where is your head at other than me?

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:14 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:12 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:39 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:34 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:29 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:29 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:26 pm @RondoDimBuckle @Thunal33 you guys trust one another to solve svs/scotty tomorrow

also you both should tr wigly/bereft/cape and anything else is up to you i suppose
Wilgy and Cape, sure. I have those two as solid town. Can you tell me why Bereft is confident town?
you'll know when ur older
But I am older than you.
are you sure?
I remember you calling me old when I'm 22 lol.
i'm 20

and i'm still older than you

(i'm a math/cs major, something something the joke wasn't bad math)

cool, I was a math major too.

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:13 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:11 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:09 pm @RondoDimBuckle it's not just me right, ts account's posts just suck
Dont take my moving to SVS for me not wanting to vote TS. I want a counter wagon more.

The "its just a joke" is making me say come on and point a knife hand at the screen
yeah i understand, and like fmpov i'd be calling for a cw too, but i think a cw here is just noise?

like i made this wagon from scratch and jjj poe, and their posts are just stereotypically wolfy

i see more "how to live" than "time to solve for mafia" from them

I actually think the fewer wagons the better and I don't like "making" CWs unless I actually believe the CW is more likely to flip wolf.

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:44 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:02 pm I've noticed a pattern of ts account going along with people easily. I told him to read my ISO so he did as soon as he could. Robyn vetoed the Abi chop and ts account immediately went along with it. I don't think it's necessarily wolfy from him but I'd like some insight on him doing this from people who actually know him.
I'm not an idiot and I'm not good at Mafia. I'd also like to point out that voting whoever Robyn tells me to vote for would make me a pro town wolf

P

Only if the person you're voting for is a wolf?

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:40 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:59 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:19 pm k time to go play music till EOD

if it has to be between me and SVS (as town leader has decreed), I would suggest voting for the player who seems to have already given up, you know?
nothing personnel
You were pushing Abi pretty hard, so why go along with robyn immediately like that?
They're town core and probably better at mafia than me. I'm also in the poe so I need to consider self press options

Following the town core is fair, but it seemed a bit early for you to switch to a less preferred chop partly on self pres.

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:39 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:34 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:29 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:29 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:26 pm @RondoDimBuckle @Thunal33 you guys trust one another to solve svs/scotty tomorrow

also you both should tr wigly/bereft/cape and anything else is up to you i suppose
Wilgy and Cape, sure. I have those two as solid town. Can you tell me why Bereft is confident town?
you'll know when ur older
But I am older than you.
are you sure?

I remember you calling me old when I'm 22 lol.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:38 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:34 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:32 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:25 pm Today kind of feels like a shot in the dark tbh. It's hard to get any sort of confident read on ts account when he's been gone for this long but I haven't found any of his posts towny.
I dont, who would you go if you could tell everyone to jump on someone now?
I'd go with ts account.
wat. See this is the reason why I can never fully town read Thunal.

"I dont like today"

> What would you prefer?

"idk, same I guess."

It's just my brain. I literally always doubt myself to some degree at EoD but I have to make some conclusions or I'd be useless.

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