The Syndicate

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:35 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:56 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:23 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:33 am
I agree. As soon as I realized it, I lost WIM and left.
rage quitting a game because you believe the setup is scumsided is poor form imo
I don't regret it and would do it again. You cannot force to play a game I no longer wanna play.
true that! you're always welcome to sub out of a game, no questions asked.

however, announcing your reason was because you felt the game was imbalanced isn't fair to the host (or your team) especially since you subbed out before knowing the full setup! sometimes games feel imbalanced, but don't judge till you know the ins and outs of behind the scenes.

I subbed out because i thought the game was imbalanced and when the game ended i realized i was right. We didnt have a chance at winning this. Of course this is my personal opinion about the game and in no way it should mirror the opinions of others but i didnt tell tutuu the reason why i subbed out until i said so here when the game ended.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:23 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:33 am
I agree. As soon as I realized it, I lost WIM and left.
rage quitting a game because you believe the setup is scumsided is poor form imo

I don't regret it and would do it again. You cannot force to play a game I no longer wanna play.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:29 pm I only want to say two things:

1) Even though I don't believe civilians had a chance in hell with this setup, I still had fun in the process.

2) I am proud of tutuu for recognizing areas of improvement in the setup. That's what experience is all about. Take that knowledge and run with it.

I agree. As soon as I realized it, I lost WIM and left.

I believe I read in the sign ups that the game was not bastard (or maybe I read it was bastard but I forgot) so I was expecting normal roles with fun mechanics. I consider really bastard anything that has to do with manipulating how town eliminate mafia during the day via the yeet. Reverse chopping and giving three people only the right to decide the chop was disheartening and should not be incorporated in a game again in my opinion.

Meh, At least I was right about Dunya and playingitcool but LongCon had me completely pocketed.

Good game wolves. Did you actually believe I was a PGO or nay?

Cheers

[VOTE: tony] aubergine

@Epignosis @hollowkatt

Chop Tony

What that hell is this game? This is full of anti town mechanics.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:03 pm @Epignosis has been permanently Marked! The mark is either real or fake. If the following conditions are all met:
-Epignosis gets chopped at any point during the game
-The mark is real (and not fake)
-The person who marked Epignosis is still alive
-The person who marked Epignosis has the opposite alignment of Epignosis

Then the person who marked Epignosis will receive the following reward during the night:

Elaborations:
-Fleeting means that it must be used immediately as soon as it is acquired. You can choose not to use it, but then it disappears

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@Guillotine has been permanently Marked! The mark is either real or fake. If the following conditions are all met:
-Guillotine gets chopped at any point during the game
-The mark is real (and not fake)
-The person who marked Guillotine is still alive
-The person who marked Guillotine has the opposite alignment of Guillotine

Then the person who marked Guillotine will receive the following reward during the night:

Elaborations:
-Fleeting means that it must be used immediately as soon as it is acquired. You can choose not to use it, but then it disappears

I think this was a town action to protect both Epi and Myself. A town action that would give the player vig shots if we died, I think this player townread us both and this action was a way to secure our survival, at least until mafia found out who this player is, or should we die, the player would vig shot suspects off our flips.

It gotta be because why mafia would spew Epignosis and myself town with this action? It clearly says right there that if the mark is real and the player who marked us is of our opposite alignment... never mind, OPPOSITE ALIGNMENT! God! I'm so dumb.

Ok so, it is a mafia action. So why mafia would spew us town just two get two vig shots?

What if one mark is fake and the other one is real? I know I'm town and I know wolves fear my PGO abilities and they need to get rid of me during the day? If Epignosis was not uncounterclaimed as Marmot's mason partner, I would believe that Epignosis is the mafia here then.

How?

Mafia decide to mark their teammate and me, they know they won't get a vig shot if Epignosis is chopped, so the plan is to spew him town with the mark and claiming he is the mason partner so he is actually not chopped!
Then mark me for real and get me mischopped, getting rid of the PGO and and getting a vig shot off of my death. Win-Win for mafia.

But Epignosis has not been COUNTERCLAIMED by anyone as mason, so epignosis is the other mason thus he is town too.

So why did mafia do it? they were counting on getting us mischopped eventually. They were planning to set us up so we'd get chopped ignoring our marks? How? They must be really confident about their abilities to get us chopped in spite of this curse placed upon us by them!!. Are wolves this arrogant? are wolves this stupid? If not. Then what's the deal? Is there more?

What if the action is from town but both marks are fake? Would this scare wolves off? Wolves need to reach parity and this action would not stop them. Nah.

What if the action is from town and he marked us both believing we were w/w? If this is the case, this townie needs one of us to flip to confirm their suspicion in the hopes of getting a vig shot (which in my case they never will). Further more, a curse is viewed as a scummy action if not claimed. If this action came from town and thought we were wolves, he didn't think it through because he spewed us town, we are not getting chopped, he is not getting answers and in their eyes, it would have helped wolves if we were mafia aligned. Would a townie be this stupid to use an action like this on us to get two vig shots? I don't think so!

I'm tinfoiling a lot here. What is the simplest explanation then? Who is most likely the marker? Town or Mafia?

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Two, I thought the silencing came with the curse but no, I was silenced separately. So I got marked and silenced. Assholes! I know you are doing your jobs but... you are assholes wolves. You precisely silence the guy who can't keep his mouth shut.

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If you guys townread Macdougall I can place a vote on him that will count as three, but then he gotta place his vote on me to save me as well.

Oh never mind, I'm out of posts... the next vote will be 11th post and I get shot. So the only way I'd attempt to save Mac is if he is worth saving.
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The curse mark says that if I get chopped (yeeted) then whoever placed their mark on me will get a vig shot, so don't chop me but if you ever wolf read me, day vig me, don't give whoever is doing this a vig shot by chopping me, or night vig me.. but then you'll die too. Meh

This is post #10

Surely whoever silenced me thought that I would not try to commit suicide but what if my death helps solve the game?

That is 7 out 10. Ok 8 out of 10 with this one.

I really wanna test that theory.. cause, not being able to talk in a game where I was told the game was not bastard is demotivating me a lot.

Macdougall, Hollowkatt and Falcon claimed to be shooters in this game.

If i go over the post limit today my health is reduced by 5 points.

So I should be good right?

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:21 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:14 pm I think LC is highly likely to be mafia. If we can flip someone today it probably should be him.
How do you figure?
Deduction. I think below sorta is a good basis for solving further.

Two mafia between you, Dunya, 112, JPIC, Hollowkatt.

1 between Enrique/Falcon.

I think 112 is town for bad reasons. HK is pretty ok. JPIC has been pushed a lot and probably by wolves.

I have little reason to feel good about you.
i'm kinda tired of you putting my name everywhere in your poe without explaining it beyond "no mafia dead yet, dunia must be mafia". kinda annoyed too ngl.

either state a case or kindly get off my ass. at this point, you're probably >rand mafia for not seeing the role hints i dropped you and you're not gonna keep me in the poe cos it suits you. go swim in the ocean and catch some other fishies or kill me at night pls and release me from this game.

This is someone trying to fake frustration. Townies are never kinda annoyed to pushes against them, they are really annoyed and act accordingly.

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:44 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:15 pm Wilgy is just overtly mafia tho.
would he fake red peek me as mafia? i know he does wifom things, but that was too out there i think. i was thinking of voting him protection today tbh. he's my definition of LHF and getting no info from if he does flip mafia.

10 years playing mafia and you still don't know that fake red peeking someone as mafia when it's clear in the OP that there are no cops, gets you derp town read? Didnt you learn anything from derp master Grogu? For the record i dont scum read nor town read Wilgy but i don't think this answer comes from someone with our experience in this game, you are either pocketing Wilgy (which you have no reason to as he has zero influence on the thread right now) or you are setting him up for a mischop, should you ever die and flip wolf.

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:40 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:45 pm
someone gave me a neighborhood with Dunya last night
damn HK. discuss things first is the etiquette. like wait till your partner wakes up.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:48 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:45 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:43 pm Okay I have flipped the board.

HK, Dunya and Wilgy wolves.

Dunya is wolf in every world.
someone gave me a neighborhood with Dunya last night
Was it Dunya herself?

That would make sense with what she tried to target me with n1.

In which case that's confirmation you aren't partnered.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:48 pm Probably means Dunya is town.

Noose tightens.
ya don't say. whose noose?

This looks like WIFOM. Didnt know Neighborhoods made you partners Dunya by the way. Also the more i read Dunya/Mac interactions the more I'm certain they belong to the same faction. They are never w/t.

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Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:04 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:25 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:20 pm I'd be happy with Joseph, 112, or Urist as the yeet today.
two lies and a truth?
...and maybe hollowkatt.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:25 pm Whom do you trust, LC?
Assuming you mean "trust" as "believe in the towniness of", I trust you and Guillo. I don't trust you to not try and get me killed, but I'm pretty used to it. dunya looks pretty good, falcon too.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:21 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:14 pm I think LC is highly likely to be mafia. If we can flip someone today it probably should be him.
How do you figure?
Deduction. I think below sorta is a good basis for solving further.

Two mafia between you, Dunya, 112, JPIC, Hollowkatt.

1 between Enrique/Falcon.

I think 112 is town for bad reasons. HK is pretty ok. JPIC has been pushed a lot and probably by wolves.

I have little reason to feel good about you.
two between me, dunya, 112, jpic, lc; subtract me and jpic = lc, 112, dunya. Of those, 112 seems the most sus to me. Dunya I hope to have more on today. LC feels ok to me? otoh my reads are bad stop sheeping me.
What do you mean you hope to have more on dunya today? Hasn't she been participating enough? She's almost post leader at this point. Why does JPIC get subtracted?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:34 pm @Long Con

You are voting to save dunya. Why?
She's the least suspicious of the people who didn't have votes already. Mostly gut. Plus she was blocked and the kill still went through, so that's a little bit good.

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:58 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:41 pm
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Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:38 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:22 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:17 pm Both of you, stop this please.

Any two players with BTSC can give six mana to someone. That's my point. I'm not barking up a tree.
I don't care about that.

You accused me of being mafia even though I claimed to have given six mana to one person.

Why would mafia give six mana to one person?

Falcon gave the only reasonable answer, and I don't even like Falcon (as a civilian): "Epi and Guillo are lying about it and are mafia teammates."

Nobody else has provided a reasonable possibility.

So I don't care that you think any players with BTSC can give six mana to someone.

I care that you called me mafia and voted for me to die when 1) You didn't know I had BTSC, and 2) Giving six mana to another person doesn't seem like it would make sense for a mafia member to do.
Well I don't care about any of that, so have fun with it. It made less sense to me to give all your mana to someone of whom you were guessing an alignment. You keep chewing on this as long as you need to though.
Ah!

That was the scheme.

If some big nasty shit went down in the thread at Night, assuming mafia have additional artifacts and what not, we would know who had the mana to wreak such havoc.

It was our way of clearing ourselves to others while outing mafia we overpowered.

I think it was quite a genius plan if I do say so myself.
I give it a 4.5/10.
not teasing you here, just wanna know why you don't like it?
I don't see how sending a player a bunch of mana clears anyone. I don't understand the plan, I guess. So, for example, if I receive a bunch of mana tonight, and tomorrow Enrique says he sent it, I should lock him town and appreciate his genius plan?

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:55 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:17 pm Both of you, stop this please.

Any two players with BTSC can give six mana to someone. That's my point. I'm not barking up a tree.
i think LC is saying between 4 mafia, they could have sent guillio 6 mana, like some send 1 and some send 2.

but why would mafia send SIX mana to town? highly unlikely. i'm gonna wager tutuu has given them things they can do with their mana lol.

i dont think mafia have "sent" mana to anyone but themselves.

were you assuming epixguil were w/w @Long Con?
No, I thought Epi was trying to buddy Guillo.

If LC flips wolf, Dunya would look bad and so would I.

Pocket accepted though because idgaf.

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Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:12 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:51 am
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:20 pm @Guillotine if you like to eat poop just don't respond to this and we'll get the idea
what is the context?
No context. But he never responded so I guess he does.

So you imposed this posting restriction on me. I see.

For the record, if i go over the limit i get shot.

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5 posts out of 10 allowed.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:18 pm Those of you receiving votes boosts...it's a reverse poll day. I don't think those boosts apply. Confer with your host.

The boosts apply today.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:55 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:42 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:20 pm Mac is mafia. Dont vote today for that guy.

Hollowkatt is too.

I’ve been marked and i can only post 10 times today. So im gonna dip out.
I'm not tho
I absolutely am not mafia. I thought Marmot and Epi were outed at EOD but clearly not. Good show.

I received two artifacts overnight. I received no additional mana so was unable to boost my thingy. One of my artifacts adds two votes to a named player and that player is Guillo. The other is a thopter and I have nfi what it does.

I received a similar artifact, my vote counts as three if I vote for Macdougall.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:33 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:20 pm Mac is mafia. Dont vote today for that guy.

Hollowkatt is too.

I’ve been marked and i can only post 10 times today. So im gonna dip out.
Vote for me, s'il vous plait.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Mac is mafia. Dont vote today for that guy.

Hollowkatt is too.

I’ve been marked and i can only post 10 times today. So im gonna dip out.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:54 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:53 pm Long Con, if I'm mafia, how did Guillotine get six mana and I knew what colors?
I believe you gave them to him. And also claimed it lickety split. What were you hoping to gain with the claim besides towncred?
I'm proving my innocence and I believe I did the same regarding Guillotine.

I wouldn't say I "claimed it lickety split." I'm not here to do things "lickety split." My window of availability is tiny.

I really hope you are town cause if you flip wolf, Im getting misyeeted cause of your hard buddying.

[VOTE: Ted] aubergine

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:53 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:52 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:51 pm ted is a miss too
Crap, I've been calling her a dude!
rookie mistake

But in your profile it says Male

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:49 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:44 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:41 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:40 pm

I kill and take lands of whoever tries to kill me at night, so I'm good.
So you're not town?
Interesting deduction. I kill my killers, what the hell do you think?
You take the lands and kill people who kill you?

Doesn't make sense to me unless you live. Town unlimited BP is not a thing.
BPV/Vengeful combo is weird ngl
I can't think of a MTG card that could even come close to that. My ability is functionally an existing card
You forgot that he also takes lands.
Yeah, I know. Adding that in makes even less mtg sense. @Guillotine are you bravadoing again?

No, I just wanna get targeted by whoever carries the factional kill or any killer for that matter. Trust me, it will be good!

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:48 pm I also take the lands of people who kill me, and I also kill them and transfer funds from their real bank account to mine.

Wow, your power is better than mine, what the hell? I got robbed!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:48 pm So Guillo is a town aligned vengeful killer than gets more powerful when he's targeted.

Ok.

When I'm targeted for a kill, yes. Does it concern you?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:44 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:41 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:40 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:37 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:34 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:31 pm

What the post I quoted says. If you wanna be on my list, there’s no guarantee I’ll choose you but you gotta ask that nobody else send you mana. Are you still in?
Catching up, skipped a few pages. How is this working?
My offer:

If you have an artifact that needs more mana than you have, but you don’t want to risk asking for mana donations / getting PtFd, I can make sure you get some mana one night later. If you wanna be on my list, just make sure to ask that nobody donate to you so that you don’t get punished.

I’ll review the people on my list and choose one of them to bless w this shit. None of them will be PfTable at any point in the process unless somebody else gives them mana.
I kill and take lands of whoever tries to kill me at night, so I'm good.
So you're not town?
Interesting deduction. I kill my killers, what the hell do you think?
You take the lands and kill people who kill you?

Doesn't make sense to me unless you live. Town unlimited BP is not a thing.

It is here. Come and test it out.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:41 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:40 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:37 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:34 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:29 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:28 pm

Reposting this to get more candidates and to get @MacDougall to confirm...
Confirm what
What the post I quoted says. If you wanna be on my list, there’s no guarantee I’ll choose you but you gotta ask that nobody else send you mana. Are you still in?
Catching up, skipped a few pages. How is this working?
My offer:

If you have an artifact that needs more mana than you have, but you don’t want to risk asking for mana donations / getting PtFd, I can make sure you get some mana one night later. If you wanna be on my list, just make sure to ask that nobody donate to you so that you don’t get punished.

I’ll review the people on my list and choose one of them to bless w this shit. None of them will be PfTable at any point in the process unless somebody else gives them mana.
I kill and take lands of whoever tries to kill me at night, so I'm good.
So you're not town?

Interesting deduction. I kill my killers, what the hell do you think?

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:37 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:34 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:29 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:28 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:51 pm

Yes please. I have a kicker that's deal 5 damage
There’s no guarantee that I’ll choose you, and if you’re on my list you’re agreeing that no one else send you mana to avoid a PtF. Is that alright?
Reposting this to get more candidates and to get @MacDougall to confirm...
Confirm what
What the post I quoted says. If you wanna be on my list, there’s no guarantee I’ll choose you but you gotta ask that nobody else send you mana. Are you still in?
Catching up, skipped a few pages. How is this working?
My offer:

If you have an artifact that needs more mana than you have, but you don’t want to risk asking for mana donations / getting PtFd, I can make sure you get some mana one night later. If you wanna be on my list, just make sure to ask that nobody donate to you so that you don’t get punished.

I’ll review the people on my list and choose one of them to bless w this shit. None of them will be PfTable at any point in the process unless somebody else gives them mana.

I kill and take lands of whoever tries to kill me at night, so I'm good.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:34 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:33 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:28 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:25 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:23 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:21 pm @Jackofhearts2005 why are you still voting Epignosis?

@falcon45ca do you still believe that Epi/Guillo are w/w and did this public dance for towncred?
I don't do shit for town cred. Smarten up.

I'm not convinced they're both town, and I still can't see why Epi would do that with his mana...does he not need mana for his own artifact?
Dude. Do you understand that people can choose to holster by giving mana away?
Are you w/w with Epi Guillo? I thought we were bros. You can tell me.
I'm not w/w with Epi but we could be teammates. How is Falcon and JPIC not yeetable to you?
Are you off the Urist vote now?

Yah unfortunately that wagon is not taking off today or ever as he is getting townread by everyone.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:28 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:25 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:23 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:21 pm @Jackofhearts2005 why are you still voting Epignosis?

@falcon45ca do you still believe that Epi/Guillo are w/w and did this public dance for towncred?
I don't do shit for town cred. Smarten up.

I'm not convinced they're both town, and I still can't see why Epi would do that with his mana...does he not need mana for his own artifact?
Dude. Do you understand that people can choose to holster by giving mana away?
Are you w/w with Epi Guillo? I thought we were bros. You can tell me.

I'm not w/w with Epi but we could be teammates. How is Falcon and JPIC not yeetable to you?

Does Enrique know that the time to send mana had passed almost 12 hours ago?

I'm still not convinced on people being able to give away 6 mana though but Epi did claim the color I had received.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:23 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:21 pm @Jackofhearts2005 why are you still voting Epignosis?

@falcon45ca do you still believe that Epi/Guillo are w/w and did this public dance for towncred?
I don't do shit for town cred. Smarten up.

I'm not convinced they're both town, and I still can't see why Epi would do that with his mana...does he not need mana for his own artifact?

Dude. Do you understand that people can choose to holster by giving mana away?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:55 pm I have zero interest in any of these wagons: Falcon, Jack, JPIC, Mac, Marmot. Do something better with your votes sheesh

Falcon? JPIC? You townread those?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:10 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:10 am epi is sus for trying to pocket me, whipsering sweet nothings into my ear like i won't notice. i see you, hoolignan.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:32 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:18 pm @Kylemii have you read falcon today? has your opinion on how he interacted with you felt the same?
basically nothing has changed. the fact that he's done absolutely nothing with his read reinforces that it's something he doesn't truly believe in. he hasn't followed up on it at all nor has he tried to convince any other people of it's validity, nor has he asked any follow up questions or even voted for me as he would if it was meant as a townie prod.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:21 am Marmot, Tedxtr, and Hollowkatt, confirmed mafia

take it to the bank boys

BANKAI!

[VOTE: FALCON] aubergine

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:56 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:44 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:34 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:31 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:33 pm @Justplayingitcool
@hollowkatt

Talk to me about your votes.
Ted is a wolf.
Maybe give me a little bit more.
He's a really furry wolf?
I dunno what you want from me. I think his play D1 with regards to mana generation is wolfy, and I think it's weird how he's not trying to solve all that hard today while being on the hot seat when he said he'd do good work if he lived through D1. He hasn't been exactly slanking, but like when I'm town and on the hot seat like that I tend to go into overdrive and just churn out posts, reads, and pushes and really get down in the trenches with the people I wolf read.
Instead Ted is just kinda "here" and I have to wonder if that's b/c he's trying to avoid spew.

I know not everyone plays like me, but more often than not, in my experience, townies under pressure "do work" and wolves under pressure "do not-work".

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:34 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:31 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:29 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:21 pm

Have you answered yet?
Yeah. When I voted for him.

You did comment on on his iso as a whole, not his single scummiest post.
I’m the type to still be working after you’ve turned in your trick quiz with your name only on it.

I can vibe with that read. I want to townread you for it, too.

Hmmmmmm.

Ted or JPic?
you and me baby, town core 4 lyfe

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:26 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:22 am @Marmot
Why vote for Wilgy at all, if you know the claim is BS because of the rules and because of the way he is? I don't see why you wouldn't just disregard the claim entirely, it was clearly fake so I don't know how you would have expected him to clarify it for you.

I already explained this didn't I?

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:22 am Also, what do you think about Made flipping town, the EoD wagon shenanigans, and the people who voted for Made? How do you feel about tedxtr and the people voting for him today?

I still lean town on ted, but I haven't given that read another thought since yesterday. And if ted is town, the VC doesn't mean a whole lot since it would be primarily two town wagons. What do you think about it?

Correction. There were three wagons.

Ted, Made and Falcon

Does this info change anything for you?

Town Lean

112
HK
Jack
LongCon

Null

Epignosis
Marmot
Enrique
Mac
DrWilgy

Scum Lean

Urist
Ted
Falcon
Dunya
Jpic

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:34 pm Don’t talk this the wrong way but....do you play/watch much baseball, Guillo?

My posts ate precious but this non game related question deserves an answer.

Baseball sucks. Literally the most boring sport to watch only bested by golf.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:19 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:06 pm If you are town, sheep me to eliminate Urist.
If you can direct me to the case, that’d be great. Or is this a mech thing?

But of course!
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Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:56 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:53 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:47 am Note that Urist just either townread me or TMIed me, i dont know what to make of it yet.
"To be honest, if I were scum and forced to give 6 mana to a townie, I would 100% pick Guillotine..." I'm not sure it's either, isn't he creating a hypothetical from Epi's perspective?

Although if Epi was scum and forced to give me that 6 mana, why not keep it secret. Why out it?
I don't think he was forced, I didn't get that impression.
Are you Urist partner or something?

He said if he was scum and was forced to give mana to a TOWNIE, he’d give it to me”

STRIKE 3

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:18 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:14 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:51 am
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:45 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:34 am @Urist who are the players difficult to execute in this game?
Any of the TS regulars are unlikely to execute each other. dunya, Mac, Epi, Marmot, LC.
Whom do you scum read out of that group? Sorry if you already said it and I missed it?
I didn't mention it, I think those people are difficult to execute regardless of alignment.

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:13 am @Long Con
Your complaint that I don't have much content outside of tedxtr or falcon is accurate, but unfair, considering most of my posts are from d0 or the first 24h of d1. I spent a lot of time basically waiting for ted to come into the thread, and then once he started posting I felt better about him, but didn't have a ton of time to pursue my Marmot read. I do think it's natural to spend some time discussing the mechanics of the setup on early d1 though, just to ensure that everyone understands the setup in at least a general sense. You're one of my strongest town reads at the moment so I hope you can come around to seeing that I'm town as well. I'm getting the feeling that the mafia lie in the players whom are difficult to execute, so I think we're going to need to not be lazy here, and work to form strong mutual town reads where possible.

Then can you please explain who are the suspected mafia aligned players that are difficult to kill here?

Strike 2

Urist pushing a scum read on me for posting with Kon and the way i vote hunting for reactions is:

Strike 1

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:38 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:33 am
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:47 am Oh sorry falcon I forgot to remove that, didn't explicitly need a response from you.

I'm not going to suggest a shot outright, but I think you'd have an idea of whom I'd shoot if given the chance.

Btw, I do think that Jack is town this game. I think he's another easy vote that will result in another town flip, just like Made.

@falcon45ca which of your scumreads do you think would be the most difficult to execute today?
Epi.

How does the 6 mana swap w/ Guillo sit with you? I asked Epi, he could give no reason as to why he gave that much mana to Guillo. I see it as possible w/w interaction to try and establish a mutual town clear.
I'm not sure that it's w/w. I don't see why Epi would give that much mana to somebody who is unlikely to use their ability wisely.
To be honest, if I were scum and forced to give 6 mana to a townie, I would 100% pick Guillotine because hes the type to do foolish things like hero-vig.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:55 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:47 am Note that Urist just either townread me or TMIed me, i dont know what to make of it yet.
Although if Epi was scum and forced to give me that 6 mana, why not keep it secret. Why out it?
why would he be ~forced to you mana?

and what's the benefit in not telling you?

Ask Urist and the benefit if he was scum would be to keep me uninformed!? Like are you really this lost?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:31 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:05 pm Im gonna let Dunya catch up. Notice scum do similar shit, they react to old posts to create chaos in the current game state.
Once she finishes up all those little posts im gonna multiquote them and reply.
How do you read Enrique given this statement?

Enrique is different, he has not been present in the game, he is actually catching up as opposed to Dunya who has been here.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:42 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:56 pm Nah. My shot didn't kill the player, I misread the mana requirements, and couldn't use the kicker.
if you tell us who, don't disclose how much damage pls.

i hope when i catch up you havent said both

He did disclose the damage

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:44 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:05 pm
Spoiler: show
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:01 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:12 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:59 am What do you think of 112/esooa?
I agree that her usual scumhunting game is not here, but im not sure it's because she is just demotivated or scum. She helped a lot to understand the mechanics of this game though, i feel scum would try to do just the opposite, scum would try to confuse us more and if not, at least they wouldn't help us get clarity about how shit works? After all, our weakness is being uninformed.
There is a person who can answer mechanical questions.

That person is tutuu.

I will be handing out zero credit for answering mechanical questions.
What did you think about my comment and Kyle’s vomment about you feeling kind of pocketing on D1?
kyle was clearly joking about his comment.

I don't believe so. I think he was half joking half bringing it to our attention. Just like i did prior to his.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:00 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:49 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:48 pm I am about to give six mana to the next winner. Hopefully the next winner will prove more grateful and useful.
Yah yah yah, uhuh uhuh
why are you denying that you got mana last night?

I am not, i actually claimed it at day start. But if i got mana from someone and wanted not to disclose it, i would because i fucking can.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:08 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:18 am
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:16 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:15 am Urist cant wait to find a way to yeet me. First it was the pictures now the way i vote seeking for reactions.

[VOTE: Urist] aubergine
Scummy is as scummy does.
Nice self reflection there buddy. Kind of defeatist attitude there though.

You've been in my scum list since day 1 and you havent town up.

Im pretty much inno child and your vote on me looks bad either when im alive or dead.
>urist posts ~1000 words asking players questions (it's in a tab open, i'll read it all urist dw)

>guillio says urist has defeatist attitude and hasn't towned it up

how does someone town it up? this seems more omgussy to me than anything viable.

You've been playing this game for half the time ive been playing it, you should know how a town that scum reads someone expects that read to town up. Also, a tip for you: Town can OMGUS, wolves call out OMGUS to discredit the target.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:10 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:05 pm Im gonna let Dunya catch up. Notice scum do similar shit, they react to old posts to create chaos in the current game state.
Once she finishes up all those little posts im gonna multiquote them and reply.
excuse me?

i've played mafia for 10 years and i'm anal about reading every post, so go shit in someone else's cornflakes about my style of catchup k thx

even if it's old, doesn't mean the ping i felt isn't relevant. i often iso myself later to see where my head at was ~in the moment.

I will continue to shit in your cornflakes if they continue to smell like dirty pelt!

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:16 pm hmm, i saw pyre ted yesterday, i tred him in that game and defended him against the thread and he sussed me so i'm gonna be wary of letting him think i townread him now lol.

[VOTE: guillio] aubergine tbh. he's stifling me and i don't like it. if anyone has been "chaotic" in the thread, it's been him.

You are outing but you are not my top scum read.

My vote on Urist stays and gets parked too.

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:14 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:51 am
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:45 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:34 am @Urist who are the players difficult to execute in this game?
Any of the TS regulars are unlikely to execute each other. dunya, Mac, Epi, Marmot, LC.
Whom do you scum read out of that group? Sorry if you already said it and I missed it?
I didn't mention it, I think those people are difficult to execute regardless of alignment.

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:13 am @Long Con
Your complaint that I don't have much content outside of tedxtr or falcon is accurate, but unfair, considering most of my posts are from d0 or the first 24h of d1. I spent a lot of time basically waiting for ted to come into the thread, and then once he started posting I felt better about him, but didn't have a ton of time to pursue my Marmot read. I do think it's natural to spend some time discussing the mechanics of the setup on early d1 though, just to ensure that everyone understands the setup in at least a general sense. You're one of my strongest town reads at the moment so I hope you can come around to seeing that I'm town as well. I'm getting the feeling that the mafia lie in the players whom are difficult to execute, so I think we're going to need to not be lazy here, and work to form strong mutual town reads where possible.

Then can you please explain who are the suspected mafia aligned players that are difficult to kill here?

If you are town, sheep me to eliminate Urist.

Im gonna let Dunya catch up. Notice scum do similar shit, they react to old posts to create chaos in the current game state.
Once she finishes up all those little posts im gonna multiquote them and reply.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:45 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:09 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:59 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:57 pm Who'd you shoot and why?
I've been going back and forth with revealing who I shot, and I'm not sure if I should or not. I'd like others opinions on whether I should disclose or not.

I shot the person cuz' I feel they deserved it
Well, i think you should. It’s true that if the target is town scum can finish the job tonight with an action that deals less than 10p (if they have any) but if it’s been scum read by the majority at one point, it would look good on you and maybe give you the chance to finishing him/her tonight.
who has been scum read by the majority at one point?

I think Ted and Falcon fit that criteria. Falcon cant shoot herself so, Ted.

No, that Urist comment does look like TMI.

God read on how i would act as a vigilante though Urist. You know me more than anyone ever could now. But you fucked up.

[VOTE: Urist] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:54 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:52 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:50 am
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:45 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:34 am @Urist who are the players difficult to execute in this game?
Any of the TS regulars are unlikely to execute each other. dunya, Mac, Epi, Marmot, LC.
imagine me being included on that list. Most of those players joins a game with me just salivating to lay votes on me. Joseph, Epi, and Marmot already have voted me, probably more than once. I have never been difficult to execute. I'm not sure Marmot is that difficult either, but the other three are.

I also think it's hilarious that Guillo agreed with you. I thought he'd be offended by the idea that he's be irresponsible with the extra mana, but he was just like "yeah that checks out".
Bro, why would i be offended by the truth. I’d definitely hero shoot. Like im the most trigger happy player you’ll ever meet.
How does that usually work out for you?

Ive never been a vigilante or a killing type. Except for reflexive killer.

Actually i lie, i randed gun shooter a few times in one of those automated mafia turbo mobile games, where days last two minutes and nights last 1 minute and i always killed scum. It was quite invigorating.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:53 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:47 am Note that Urist just either townread me or TMIed me, i dont know what to make of it yet.
"To be honest, if I were scum and forced to give 6 mana to a townie, I would 100% pick Guillotine..." I'm not sure it's either, isn't he creating a hypothetical from Epi's perspective?

Although if Epi was scum and forced to give me that 6 mana, why not keep it secret. Why out it?
I don't think he was forced, I didn't get that impression.

Are you Urist partner or something?

He said if he was scum and was forced to give mana to a TOWNIE, he’d give it to me”

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:50 am
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:45 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:34 am @Urist who are the players difficult to execute in this game?
Any of the TS regulars are unlikely to execute each other. dunya, Mac, Epi, Marmot, LC.
imagine me being included on that list. Most of those players joins a game with me just salivating to lay votes on me. Joseph, Epi, and Marmot already have voted me, probably more than once. I have never been difficult to execute. I'm not sure Marmot is that difficult either, but the other three are.

I also think it's hilarious that Guillo agreed with you. I thought he'd be offended by the idea that he's be irresponsible with the extra mana, but he was just like "yeah that checks out".

Bro, why would i be offended by the truth. I’d definitely hero shoot. Like im the most trigger happy player you’ll ever meet.

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:45 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:34 am @Urist who are the players difficult to execute in this game?
Any of the TS regulars are unlikely to execute each other. dunya, Mac, Epi, Marmot, LC.

Whom do you scum read out of that group? Sorry if you already said it and I missed it?

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