Last Woman Standing 3 [Day 10]

[Made]

No but really it's plausible. Boo didn't talk night 2 death didn't kill night 2. Talked night 3, and death killed night 3. Keep in mind death kills every night, not just every other day.

[nutella]

Bye Splints and Boo.

Death may be trying to frame me? Because Boo said that if Death killed tonight he's think it was me.

[Marmot]

That's a good point Made, but it still implies that boo killed himself, or someone made him kill himself.

Linki: I didn't think there were any solid points in boo's post. Did you, nutella?

[nutella]

No, I don't. But I don't think it's totally unreasonable that Death could have taken advantage of his wild accusations.

[S~V~S]

Aw that sucks, I thought both were contributing quite a bit to the game.

It being the weekend hopefully we'll have a bit more chattiness going on

Does it really suck? I mean, isn't it the point to narrow the game down to fewer and fewer players?

I think boo was death.

What makes you think that? That you say this makes me think YOU could be death

Did I do something to you? Everything I say seems to annoy you

And yes, it does suck, because with his deals and total lack of fear regarding making suppositions, boo kept the thread moving. He was as amusing, interesting and formidable adversary. Splints was also a good person to have around, she always has a good eye, and is a fun player.

And MM, lol

[fingersplints]

i agree so sad ;( me

[unfurl]

Bye boo and FS

dont know what to think about boo/death/ nutella tbqh, it could had been a set up or it just wifom,
boo never made it clear why he thought nutella was death, and I still dont understand how people could pin point who is who in a game like this?
so if I vote for someone is not because I think they are certain role, is just cause you need to die

[G-Man]

Aw that sucks, I thought both were contributing quite a bit to the game.

It being the weekend hopefully we'll have a bit more chattiness going on

Does it really suck? I mean, isn't it the point to narrow the game down to fewer and fewer players?

I think boo was death.

What makes you think that? That you say this makes me think YOU could be death

*Sigh*. It was a joke because boo said he thought that LC was Death even though he was killed by Death.

I was 99% sure you were joking.

No but really it's plausible. Boo didn't talk night 2 death didn't kill night 2. Talked night 3, and death killed night 3. Keep in mind death kills every night, not just every other day.

I just don't see it. Just because someone doesn't post during a night phase doesn't mean they haven't PMed their power target to the host. It's possible that Death was blocked somehow Night 2. If that is the case, someone might have some knowledge as to who Death could be.

That's a good point Made, but it still implies that boo killed himself, or someone made him kill himself.

Linki: I didn't think there were any solid points in boo's post. Did you, nutella?

Bye Splints and Boo.

Death may be trying to frame me? Because Boo said that if Death killed tonight he's think it was me.

I just can't see someone being forced to kill themselves in this kind of game. That's pretty harsh. The only way I could see boo being so certain about Nutella is if boo was one of the power blocking roles and he blocked Nutella on Night 2. If he did that, it would make sense for him to suspect Nutella since he blocked her Night 2 and Death did not kill Night 2. But alas, we have no more boo to confirm or deny any of this.

Host- can we get another letter soon? N was a bit of a bust for us.

[unfurl]

G-Man,
thats a good point about maybe boo being the blocker and perhaps blocking nutella night 2
but why he voted epig and not nutella day 3? he did had a weird thing going on with nutella

[unfurl]

not epig, he voted Nisani,
thats the result of not keeping spread sheet, and trying to remember everything from top of my head xd

[Roxy]

This game will be less fun without splints :/
And it will be less picked apart without boo :/

And thanks SVS & Metalspam for explaining why neither were Time Bomb I often forget that other Hosts do give info in their posts and polls unlike me.

I agree with unfurl in that it is tough to pinpoint roles in this game especially with the swither around.

Linky maybe he did not vote for her bc he could not get enough peopleto follow his lead?

[unfurl]

Hey nutella, I won't vote for you even though I should, if you'll vote Nisani with me today.

This is the weird thing boo said to nutella day 3

[Bass_the_Clever]

I think boo being the blocker could make sense. Also I think boo vote nisani over nutella because boo really wanted nisani gone.

[Marmot]

R you wishing we had picked a different letter?

[unfurl]

Thats true too Bass

[Bass_the_Clever]

Thats the only reason I can think Boo woulld vote Nisani before Nutella.

[Marmot]

[rabbit8]

Nooo my team is no more.


Was Boo the blocker? Maybe he blocked Nutella then declared her Death if Death killed night 3?

[rabbit8]

I think boo being the blocker could make sense. Also I think boo vote nisani over nutella because boo really wanted nisani gone.

Oh I missed this, I think this is a good idea. Obviously.

[G-Man]

The only trouble is that there is more than one role that can prevent a player from using their power at night. With the power-switching elements potentially still in play, we don't know what powers are still in the game. In a normal mafia game, we would have to seriously consider the possibility that someone else blocked the real Death Night 2 and boo only thinks Nutella is Death because he blocked her as well. But in this game, do we have to care about and consider these details as much?

Nutella is the 2nd lowest poster at the moment. Circumstantial suspicion + low posting = lynch candidate? Discuss!

Also, I find it curious that none of the NK'ers have gone after Made. Maybe they're all waiting on us to try to lynch him again. :P

[rabbit8]

The only trouble is that there is more than one role that can prevent a player from using their power at night. With the power-switching elements potentially still in play, we don't know what powers are still in the game. In a normal mafia game, we would have to seriously consider the possibility that someone else blocked the real Death Night 2 and boo only thinks Nutella is Death because he blocked her as well. But in this game, do we have to care about and consider these details as much?

Nutella is the 2nd lowest poster at the moment. Circumstantial suspicion + low posting = lynch candidate? Discuss!

Also, I find it curious that none of the NK'ers have gone after Made. Maybe they're all waiting on us to try to lynch him again. :P

Any reason to lynch Nutella is a good reason....


:P

[unfurl]

Well, thats what I said before, in this game with switcheroo role, nothing is written in stone, this is a game of chaos as the name fits

but we have to lynch someone, whether people like to have a "reason" based in assumptions that can be easily change, someone has to die

just bad luck for the one with the rope around their neck at the end

[Bass_the_Clever]

The only trouble is that there is more than one role that can prevent a player from using their power at night. With the power-switching elements potentially still in play, we don't know what powers are still in the game. In a normal mafia game, we would have to seriously consider the possibility that someone else blocked the real Death Night 2 and boo only thinks Nutella is Death because he blocked her as well. But in this game, do we have to care about and consider these details as much?

Nutella is the 2nd lowest poster at the moment. Circumstantial suspicion + low posting = lynch candidate? Discuss!

Also, I find it curious that none of the NK'ers have gone after Made. Maybe they're all waiting on us to try to lynch him again. :P

Any reason to lynch Nutella is a good reason....


:P

Agreed. I mean this is last man standing.

[nijuukyugou]

R you wishing we had picked a different letter?

Tee hee

[DharmaHelper]

[nutella]

Seems plausible that Boo blocked me and then assumed I was Death because Death didn't kill. Somewhat of a presumptuous leap, since there are other things that could explain Death not killing. I assure you I am not, and never have been, Death.

Since Boo is already gone, I'm not sure who my primary lynch candidate is going to be today, but hey, it could be any one of you

[G-Man]

Seems plausible that Boo blocked me and then assumed I was Death because Death didn't kill. Somewhat of a presumptuous leap, since there are other things that could explain Death not killing. I assure you I am not, and never have been, Death.

Since Boo is already gone, I'm not sure who my primary lynch candidate is going to be today, but hey, it could be any one of you

In a normal game, it would be a rather presumptuous leap to go forward with. But this is Last Man Standing and the way boo set up his cryptic case against you makes me think it's worth a shot. We all want someone to get lynched and boo made a few posts that show the possibility that you are a NK'er. Outside of you dying, I don't see the harm in lynching you to find out if boo was right, wrong, or simply blowing smoke. And since you dying is better than me dying, I really don't see any harm in it at all.

Probably voting Nutella today just to indulge my curiosity and to test boo's theory.

[nutella]

Well, your curiosity is misplaced, and I think it would be a real shame for me to die so early

[G-Man]

Well, your curiosity is misplaced, and I think it would be a real shame for me to die so early

Actually, assuming we still have a full compliment of NK'ers active, we're hardly early into the game. More like mid-way.

[Elohcin]

SVS, you aren't annoying me. I didn't think my posts were coming off as annoyed.

[Black Rock]

Seems plausible that Boo blocked me and then assumed I was Death because Death didn't kill. Somewhat of a presumptuous leap, since there are other things that could explain Death not killing. I assure you I am not, and never have been, Death.

Since Boo is already gone, I'm not sure who my primary lynch candidate is going to be today, but hey, it could be any one of you

In a normal game, it would be a rather presumptuous leap to go forward with. But this is Last Man Standing and the way boo set up his cryptic case against you makes me think it's worth a shot. We all want someone to get lynched and boo made a few posts that show the possibility that you are a NK'er. Outside of you dying, I don't see the harm in lynching you to find out if boo was right, wrong, or simply blowing smoke. And since you dying is better than me dying, I really don't see any harm in it at all.

Probably voting Nutella today just to indulge my curiosity and to test boo's theory.

Can you point me towards those posts so I can see them for myself?

[unfurl]

Well, your curiosity is misplaced, and I think it would be a real shame for me to die so early

you said you would had voted boo, if he was alive, so sort of revenge vote for he tossing your name around? or whats another reason there?

[G-Man]

During Day 3...

Hey nutella, I won't vote for you even though I should, if you'll vote Nisani with me today.

Boo why are you only asking Nutella?

Everyone should, but if she doesn't, I'm going to vote for her.

Boo, why do you think you should vote for me?

And of course I'll vote for Nisani, I was most likely to go for him again today anyway.

I think you know, and putting it out there helps me. And if you don't know, it doesn't harm me.

But at the very least, you voted like I wanted you to, so that's this vote decided for me, I'm also voting Nisani.

And late into Night 3...

LC was Death, and tried to kill Nisani (probably, could also have been his partner) N1. Which is why we didn't have a Death NK N2. That should mean we won't have a NK from Death again tonight, and unless Switcheroo decides to bring the role back, we won't again.

If that's wrong, Nutella is Death, and we should lynch her tomorrow (so if there's a Death NK tonight, lynched Nutella tomorrow).

I think MM was probably Nisani's BTSC partner, so I also wouldn't mind lynching him so that we've completely gotten rid of that team so Switcheroo can't put it back in play.

Admittedly, it's not much but if there's anything to read between the lines, him blocking Nutella the night Death missed their NK is the logical conclusion and the most likely reason for him to suspect Nutella to be Death. As mentioned before, Death could have been thwarted by another role or two and boo could be mistaken.

The question is this: do we think boo was onto something or just on something? :P

[S~V~S]

Personally, i think her reaction would have been stronger than:

Boo, why do you think you should vote for me?

And of course I'll vote for Nisani, I was most likely to go for him again today anyway.

If she had no clue what he was talking about.

[G-Man]

Personally, i think her reaction would have been stronger than:

Boo, why do you think you should vote for me?

And of course I'll vote for Nisani, I was most likely to go for him again today anyway.

If she had no clue what he was talking about.

I think she may not have known what he was talking about. If she were Death, she wouldn't know who blocked her. Depending on how detailed our host chooses to be, she may only be told that her NK failed, not necessarily that it was blocked or her target was protected.

[unfurl]

She is been also been sort of laying low (even if she has said to been busy) she has not really step in that many toes, and sometimes in a regular game sk trys to stay very neutral about most things

meaning if boo had not had that interaction with her, I would probably not had looked at her as I have been stubborn about Made, which I has not forgotten

[unfurl]

oh wait, looking back in her overall posts, she has been participating on givng her opinions, even if she has not that many post

I would still like to see the answer to my question Nutella

Going offline for today, will vote tomorrow morning

[S~V~S]

Personally, i think her reaction would have been stronger than:

Boo, why do you think you should vote for me?

And of course I'll vote for Nisani, I was most likely to go for him again today anyway.

If she had no clue what he was talking about.

I think she may not have known what he was talking about. If she were Death, she wouldn't know who blocked her. Depending on how detailed our host chooses to be, she may only be told that her NK failed, not necessarily that it was blocked or her target was protected.

But she would know she had been blocked. When I am a killer, and my kill fails, I am paranoid, expecting the shoe to drop and waiting for it. But yeah, I guess what you say can be true, as well.

[S~V~S]

Not "blocked", that it had failed. Edit fail

[nutella]

Well, your curiosity is misplaced, and I think it would be a real shame for me to die so early

you said you would had voted boo, if he was alive, so sort of revenge vote for he tossing your name around? or whats another reason there?

Because he was being mysterious about his reasons for suspecting me, just like Epig had been regarding bullz. It wasn't behavior that I liked. He didn't answer when I asked him why he wanted to vote for me.

SVS, sorry my reaction didn't seem "strong" enough for you. I was legitimately asking Boo why he thought he should vote for me, but I was going to vote for Nisani anyway so it wasn't a big deal.

I'm not Death. If we want to get rid of NKers, which I certainly want to do, lynching me would be a waste.

[S~V~S]

When you're a civ, you got a pissy, bitchy quality to you, not a bad thing (although those are not nice words; not sure exactly how to describe it, but LoRab does a similar thing) when under suspicion. Your reply to boo felt totally flat, none of that attitude I expect from you.

But if you did nothing wrong, it could also be just a "huh" reaction, and I read too much into it. Which I have been known to do

[G-Man]

Since the NK'ers lack the chutzpah to target Made and we don't seem inclined to take another chance at lynching him, we need something to break this game open again. I'm voting for Nutella because we've been dancing around the issue all day. Boo made a few wild comments and suspicions but the one against Nutella seems more fully formed than the rest. He could easily be wrong but it doesn't really hurt us in this game because we're all individuals. In the long run, we all need each other dead to win. I say we see if boo was right.

Sorry Nutella. It's not personal, it's Last Man Standing.

[Bass_the_Clever]

I really wouldnt mind seeing made gone like I said before a role that can survive lynch is not good to keep around

[Bass_the_Clever]

But if we have a shot at taking down a killer its the best way to go this lynch I think.

[nutella]

SVS I haven't played much mafia in a long time, I really doubt that I have a consistent playing style or that it's the same as it used to be. Anyway I think you're reading too much into that. I reacted the way I did. Boo had no valid reason to go after me, and neither should the rest of you.

[S~V~S]

It is quite possible that I am. And yeah, it's been a while.

[rabbit8]

SVS I haven't played much mafia in a long time, I really doubt that I have a consistent playing style or that it's the same as it used to be. Anyway I think you're reading too much into that. I reacted the way I did. Boo had no valid reason to go after me, and neither should the rest of you.

I do though.....

Nemesis!

[Made]

Also, I find it curious that none of the NK'ers have gone after Made. Maybe they're all waiting on us to try to lynch him again. :P

That's normally how it goes with me. I prolly got another day or two, if we're being real.

re death, thought boo was killed by Milton and splints was killed by death so that theory is far fetched imo....


I don't think there's much point in putting stock in boo's claim, because if you do, you have to think one of the following: that nisani and his squad were all (or at least most of his squad) was killer/a threat, or trust his methodology.


For fun, however, I'd like to point at another target..... Standby. Brain is doing idea-y things and I need a fast method of entry (read keyboard rather than cellphone screen.

[Made]

Since the NK'ers lack the chutzpah to target Made and we don't seem inclined to take another chance at lynching him, we need something to break this game open again. .

Ok, this post makes me feel
Painting Xs on peoples back is not a very polite thing to do, but it's last man standing, so yeah.

I think a fun thing to do, while we're still early in the game is to look closely at what people's strategies are, as this should be the part of the game where those are developing for the first time. Like i said previously, It's important to realize that this isn't traditional mafia, meaning that traditional mafia methods and thinking isn't going to be what wins this game, it's going to be avoiding death. Now there's many ways to do that, but some work better than others. Let's look at the ways that haven't worked this game thus far. and why they haven't worked.

1. Captain Creepy
Description: Acting like your the leader of a noble cause
Why they died: This alienated players, making them wary of the thoughts and motives this player might have
What can we learn from this death: Try to appear as transparent as possible to gain trust. Mystery draws fear and distrust

2. Vendeada
Description: Launching a personal vendetta against another player
Why they died: It gives killers a reason to kill you. Guilt by association, is a very easy way to keep control of who gets talked about during the game
What can we learn from this death: Don't threaten players by name, unless you're sure you groupthink will kill them by nightfall.

3 I AM MIA AMA
Description: Being a low poster
Why they died: No body likes killing people they perceive as engaged/interested. It's a guilt free vote.
What can we learn from this death: Posting enough to remain on the radar is important to surviving. as long as you appear often, you'll be harder to lynch.

Now let's look at some strategies that have worked so far!

1. Grouplove
Description: Agree with everything everyone says
Why this has worked: Agreeing makes you visible, and a potential ally to everyone, thus helping you to avoid both night kills and lynches

2.
Description: Say nothing that upsets other players
Why this has worked: Again, you're saying words, so you're visible, but you avoid any possible suspicion because what you're talking about ruffles no feathers.

3. Casebuilder
Description: Build cases/ demonstrate reasons why a person should vote a certain, then finish the job, and get the player lynched, or near lynched.
Why this has worked: Leave no ties! There's no reason to kill a player if they're attachment has died. It's not like typical mafia where the role reveal shows they player was actually a civvie. IF you're a persuasive player, this is a very valid strategy

There's many ways to skin this cat of a game, but outlining them might force rapid cat-skinning meta evolution, which sounds pretty interesting imo.

Also changed my mind on the targeting thing

[Made]

Was going to add picture. If i update this list, i'll probably add them.