Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]

#3701

Nope, that flies over my head. Must be something different.

#3702

are you leaning Vompatti as a vote before G-Man, Golden?

#3703

or me i guess.

#3704

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:are you leaning Vompatti as a vote before G-Man, Golden?

In a vacuum, I would be yes.

But if there are things you can glean from behaviour in the next wee while, then that is exactly the kind of thing we need.

#3705

I do think there is literally no room to split the vote, though. If you and I are both around tomorrow, we can't afford to be on a different page. Same goes for splints. I feel as though the next lynch is seminal.

#3706

Golden wrote:I do think there is literally no room to split the vote, though. If you and I are both around tomorrow, we can't afford to be on a different page. Same goes for splints. I feel as though the next lynch is seminal.

it definitely is. if we're lucky we'll be in a 3v1, and getting it wrong would result in a 1v1. that's normally an auto-loss, but in this game might not necessarily be -- but even then it'd be a guns/butter contest and a prayer.

#3707

Golden wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:are you leaning Vompatti as a vote before G-Man, Golden?
In a vacuum, I would be yes.

But if there are things you can glean from behaviour in the next wee while, then that is exactly the kind of thing we need.

what degree of confidence would you say you have for your G-Man hunch?

#3708

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Golden wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:are you leaning Vompatti as a vote before G-Man, Golden?
In a vacuum, I would be yes.

But if there are things you can glean from behaviour in the next wee while, then that is exactly the kind of thing we need.
what degree of confidence would you say you have for your G-Man hunch?

Right now I'm in a phase of doubt.

Yesterday I would have said 90%, but then I was also pretty sure I had sanmateo dead to rights.

It's hard for me to describe this exactly without info. I'll go so far as to say - something a host said, perhaps accidentally, reinforced this view which I already held, but something splints said yesterday made me doubt it.

#3709

Golden wrote:I don't share your confidence but I have hope. I'm wary of manipulation.

Golden wrote:I do think there is literally no room to split the vote, though. If you and I are both around tomorrow, we can't afford to be on a different page. Same goes for splints. I feel as though the next lynch is seminal.

#3710

i'm paying attention G-Man. i just don't think you're making yourself look much better.

like i said before: if you'd be better able to express yourself in normal text, then use it. the game is on the line for everyone.

#3711

Don't mistake not replying to your posts or mentioning them with not reading them, G-Man!

#3712

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:i'm paying attention G-Man. i just don't think you're making yourself look much better.

like i said before: if you'd be better able to express yourself in normal text, then use it. the game is on the line for everyone.

Golden wrote:Don't mistake not replying to your posts or mentioning them with not reading them, G-Man!

#3713

#3714

who do you think the mafia is right now, G-Man?

#3715

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:who do you think the mafia is right now, G-Man?

#3716

JJ, did you understand what I was saying on G-Man?

#3717

Golden wrote:JJ, did you understand what I was saying on G-Man?

conceptually, sorta.

specifically, no.

#3718

G-Man wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:who do you think the mafia is right now, G-Man?

gimme something my man. gimme something.

#3719

oops, i really couldnt check the thread. i did break a rule so i'm sorry about that. gl

#3720

not much to say at this point i guess. i'll be at work tomorrow through the end of the night. i'll try to drop in and offer whatever input i can if any is demanded.

#3721

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:RIP sanmateo. Although your votes were all wrong, I really liked the way you played here. I hope I play with you again, and sorry for being an ass to you on D1.

The game is getting really epic. I wish there was a skype chat like in mafia champions so I could talk about it.

I hope no one lets being wrong discourage them. People have in games found me suspicious for still being so confident despite being wrong so much in a game. I don't believe people should make you feel bad about being wrong it's the nature of the game.

I don't suspect JJJ for questioning my civvieness yesterday, Golden. It is what makes me feel the best about him actually. He is looking at every angle. If he is the baddie, you know what he deserves the win for how fooled we will be.

I will be reevaluating you guys, but I feel pretty good about the Gman suspicion. If I am the one gone (which is looking very possible if it is Gman - he did just cast some doubt on JJJ so I am feeling very unsafe atm)

I don't have any roles in mind for anyone other then JJJ. And I don't have the most solid reasons for thinking he is a specific role either. (Don't want to go to much into my thoughts on that for the obvious reasons

) so I don't have anything to make off of what you guys are speculating with Vomps. I think most of our most powerful roles are gone. I think most of the powerful civvie roles are gone. (I still think the TB/MP theories have merit. I had TH marked as maybe a certain role but I am not sold on that one) but with some of the kills seeming oddly timed (MP while more confirmed people were out there) I definitely think it was for role reasons.

#3722

fingersplints wrote:I don't suspect JJJ for questioning my civvieness yesterday, Golden. It is what makes me feel the best about him actually. He is looking at every angle. If he is the baddie, you know what he deserves the win for how fooled we will be.

I didn't mean to imply I found it suspicious. JJ has my trust, and even more so given he had no reason to suddenly change his mind on sanmateo (and be correct) if he was bad. I have had JJ as my top town read for a long time, and that isn't going to change.

#3723

Also, I was thinking about vote manipulation and if we have one to spare I think we'd all be well inclined to turn one gun into one extra lynch vote tonight so that we can use it tomorrow. It could be the difference, and balancing it out between us would be a good way to ensure it can't be taken advantage of through a NK.

#3724

Also, if for any reason you don't want to participate in this (don't have a gun, or any reason)... can I suggest you don't say so during the night phase.

#3725

Perhaps noteworthy that no Nash games have appeared since the rap battle. At least not publicly.

#3726

Which is to say i think DDL was Nash.

#3727

#3728

#3729

Recommendation to townies surviving into LyLo:

trusting your analysis is okay, but it isn't everything. LyLo is a pressure cooker, use that to your advantage. Interrogate hard.

I will if alive and time allows me to.

#3730

Anyone who has played with G-Man before:

Is he the type of player to use emotion for manipulation?

#3731

#3732

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Recommendation to townies surviving into LyLo:

trusting your analysis is okay, but it isn't everything. LyLo is a pressure cooker, use that to your advantage. Interrogate hard.

I will if alive and time allows me to.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Anyone who has played with G-Man before:

Is he the type of player to use emotion for manipulation?

#3733

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Anyone who has played with G-Man before:

Is he the type of player to use emotion for manipulation?

#3734

REZZ ME, PLEASE! HOLY HELL, IT'S HOT DOWN HERE. AND MM WON'T SHUT UP.

#3735

Well I answered this question, but apparently I must have skimmed one or two of the pics because I didn't see the one where Gman discussed his last STV performance. I actually had just stumbled on that game myself and was going to reply with this when I noticed his post. Going to post it anyways becuase I have spent a while reading that now and don't want my time to have been wasted:::::

I don't recall him ever playing emotionally before.

I remembered him as having long posts but being more analytical. Problem is that site is no longer so I can't even go back and look at those games. I've actually gone back to reading G-man on another site we both have played at (Golden too but we played there after Gmans time). Another problem with this game I happened to read is that while he is he is defensive and seems to be playing more emotionally in this old game and is in fact later revealed to be bad (I actually can't even remember having ever seen his baddie game before) he also says he won't be returning to said site while being lynched, so that could have a factor on his posting that game.

#3736

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Recommendation to townies surviving into LyLo:

trusting your analysis is okay, but it isn't everything. LyLo is a pressure cooker, use that to your advantage. Interrogate hard.

I will if alive and time allows me to.

What is lylo anyway?

#3737

I don't know if I feel better or not that Gman pointed that game out before I found it. On one hand he knew he had a past experience where he was bad and played kind of emotionally so he would know it would be better off to be upfront about it. He didn't actually say he was bad then though and he wouldn't know I would take the time to dig up that old game.

I can speak to his hitchhikers game, because I did play that one. Now that he mentions it I do remember his wifes car accident, but I do not remember any tirades from him. HOWEVER he was lynched after he had pushed a button and reset everyones roles. My memory of that game was that I had been a civvie all game and been under enough scrutiny, only to finally get rid of it and have my role reset. I then became bad and on a team with someone I didn't particularly get along with and when I was the last baddie left I ended up killing myself to end the game.

So yea... don't remember him blowing up at that point and the site is no longer. And I could have been wrong about him being the button pusher even. Maybe that happened after he died. Regardless I definitely was that last baddie left that caused him to blow up, but I was having my own side drama. I don't think that was a lot of people's best game. I did see to the civvies winning though

#3738

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Recommendation to townies surviving into LyLo:

trusting your analysis is okay, but it isn't everything. LyLo is a pressure cooker, use that to your advantage. Interrogate hard.

I will if alive and time allows me to.
What is lylo anyway?

Lynch right or lose

#3739

Yea, I have come to the decision that it makes Gman look worse to me. Particularly that he provided two situations of his past game style and neglected to say that one of them he was bad in.

#3740

fingersplints wrote:I've actually gone back to reading G-man on another site we both have played at (Golden too but we played there after Gmans time). Another problem with this game I happened to read is that while he is he is defensive and seems to be playing more emotionally in this old game and is in fact later revealed to be bad (I actually can't even remember having ever seen his baddie game before) he also says he won't be returning to said site while being lynched, so that could have a factor on his posting that game.

#3741

No. They aren't in any secret area on mine. They are in the all the other stuff section.

#3742

fingersplints wrote:I don't know if I feel better or not that Gman pointed that game out before I found it. On one hand he knew he had a past experience where he was bad and played kind of emotionally so he would know it would be better off to be upfront about it. He didn't actually say he was bad then though and he wouldn't know I would take the time to dig up that old game.

I can speak to his hitchhikers game, because I did play that one. Now that he mentions it I do remember his wifes car accident, but I do not remember any tirades from him. HOWEVER he was lynched after he had pushed a button and reset everyones roles. My memory of that game was that I had been a civvie all game and been under enough scrutiny, only to finally get rid of it and have my role reset. I then became bad and on a team with someone I didn't particularly get along with and when I was the last baddie left I ended up killing myself to end the game. So yea... don't remember him blowing up at that point and the site is no longer. And I could have been wrong about him being the button pusher even. Maybe that happened after he died. Regardless I definitely was that last baddie left that caused him to blow up, but I was having my own side drama. I don't think that was a lot of people's best game. I did see to the civvies winning though

fingersplints wrote:Yea, I have come to the decision that it makes Gman look worse to me. Particularly that he provided two situations of his past game style and neglected to say that one of them he was bad in.

G-Man wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:G-Man how can you live with yourself after numerous cold-blooded murders?

Spoiler: show

#3743

#3744

I am looking at Gameshow mafia in which you also had a bit of an emotional response to OA and also bad.

And it is also not true that the "second wave of STV mafia games are locked away." Here is Grey's Anatomy mafia. The last mafia game ever hosted on STV.

#3745

I actually have access to XMen mafia too. It's showing up in the Mafia Archive to me when I searched for it. I have never been staff on STV so idk what you are talking about now lol

#3746

Hey my husband played Xmen mafia lol

#3747

#3748

fingersplints wrote:I am looking at Gameshow mafia in which you also had a bit of an emotional response to OA and also bad.

And it is also not true that the "second wave of STV mafia games are locked away." Here is Grey's Anatomy mafia. The last mafia game ever hosted on STV.

http://www.spoilertv.co.uk/forum/viewforum.php?f=31

http://www.spoilertv.co.uk/forum/viewto ... 45#p341557

#3749

The lynch post says you were a baddie.

#3750

And no I cannot access that link you put, but as I linked you to the last game played there I clearly do have access to the games. So I don't really know what you are in fact linking me to tbh

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