Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

#5951

juliets wrote:
FZ. wrote:Okay, now I'm really going to bed. I want to hear Wilgy, Drac and Sorsha.

linki 1:Juliets, why do you care so much what I think? Why don't you consider that maybe I'm the baddie here and am trying to make you look bad? I feel like you're aiming to please a lot this game. I don't remember ever playing with you like that

linki 2: I had a feeling you'd react with something of the sort, DH. But it's the truth.

linki 3: Because that's the new trend MM, I'm bad
I'm trying to answer all concerns about me FZ not just yours. You seem to have a lot (or it feels that way)so it feels to me like I'm responding to you a lot. But it's not you and nobody else - it's everyone else too. Even if you're a baddie your comments can affect what others think.

Okay, but if I were in your shoes and good, and someone was having concerns about me all the time, at some point I'd start thinking maybe they were bad themselves and would try questioning them about it. The fact you're not questioning me at any point is funny to me, especially since I'm now a hot topic.

#5952

FZ when was the last time you lasted this long. If I recall you die early in games quite often?

#5953

MacDougall wrote:FZ when was the last time you lasted this long. If I recall you die early in games quite often?

When I play a shitty game. I don't think people on this site consider me a big threat... I wish I was NK. I'm really tired of this game

#5954

FZ. wrote:
MacDougall wrote:FZ when was the last time you lasted this long. If I recall you die early in games quite often?
When I play a shitty game. I don't think people on this site consider me a big threat... I wish I was NK. I'm really tired of this game

Why are you tired of this game in particular? Seems fun and rather jocular to me?

#5955

MacDougall wrote:
FZ. wrote:
MacDougall wrote:FZ when was the last time you lasted this long. If I recall you die early in games quite often?
When I play a shitty game. I don't think people on this site consider me a big threat... I wish I was NK. I'm really tired of this game
Why are you tired of this game in particular? Seems fun and rather jocular to me?

We've lost the players that I felt I could really trust and understand what they are saying, I've made some bad judgements and basically, I'm clueless at this point. I don't like it when I don't feel I have a footing in the game. We haven't made a good decision in days and I'm second guessing every feeling I have.

#5956

MacDougall wrote:How bout Draconus trying to paint DH as the scum out of the LC flip and now arriving where we are him just buddying the fuck out of him?

I believe you!

Can we lynch Wilgy first?

#5957

Mac, do you still think Juliets is good? Don't you think there's an aim to please about her that is just too freaking strong? Am I the only one thinking this?

#5958

And now I'm really really out of here. Night

#5959

FZ. wrote:Mac, do you still think Juliets is good? Don't you think there's an aim to please about her that is just too freaking strong? Am I the only one thinking this?

I don't think you should focus on juliets, tbh, except if my follow-up question in my ISO of her is worth thinking about.

#5960

I haven't really been able to resolve juliets as scum. But she hasn't exactly convinced me she is civvie beyond theory based stuff. On post evidence alone she doesn't look the best but she doesn't seem to have any teammate connections I can see and I do think HB hid behind her.

#5961

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:How bout Draconus trying to paint DH as the scum out of the LC flip and now arriving where we are him just buddying the fuck out of him?
I believe you!

Can we lynch Wilgy first?

Why not Drac first?

#5962

MacDougall wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:How bout Draconus trying to paint DH as the scum out of the LC flip and now arriving where we are him just buddying the fuck out of him?
I believe you!

Can we lynch Wilgy first?
Why not Drac first?

#5963

MacDougall wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:How bout Draconus trying to paint DH as the scum out of the LC flip and now arriving where we are him just buddying the fuck out of him?
I believe you!

Can we lynch Wilgy first?
Why not Drac first?

DH made his move first.

#5964

MacDougall wrote:I haven't really been able to resolve juliets as scum. But she hasn't exactly convinced me she is civvie beyond theory based stuff. On post evidence alone she doesn't look the best but she doesn't seem to have any teammate connections I can see and I do think HB hid behind her.

Agreed post evidence doesn't create a positive read of her. Furthermore, she's doing this strange "I'm doing what I'm doing always. I'm not bad for it" that's slightly LoRab-ish in intonation.

Putting aside the HB theory, does my follow-up question in her ISO give you any concern?

#5965

DH I want you to in dot point form outline the best reasons for lynching Wilgy. Lord knows Marsh, juliets and DharmaHelper have zero.

Here are the best reasons for Draconus.

1. Top of LC's scumlist
2. Last major breadcrumb left by HB before he died
3. Major suspect of Dom
4. Obvious buddying of DH, Metalmarsh and Ricochet
5. Earlier scum read of DH now resolving in buddying, scum read disappeareth!
6. Is just voting for whoever DH votes for
7. Hasn't made any of his own cases
8. Has compelling teammate connection with FZ
9. Told me to fuck off, how rude!
10. I read him scum early in the game and I am legendary at that

If your case against Wilgy is that convincing then I will vote for him.

#5966

Can you ask your question again in a different way? I can't remember there being a connection that was obvious?

#5967

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:How bout Draconus trying to paint DH as the scum out of the LC flip and now arriving where we are him just buddying the fuck out of him?
I believe you!

Can we lynch Wilgy first?
Why not Drac first?
DH made his move first.

No he didn't. My vote was the first vote of the day and my suspicions of Draconus are as old as time itself.

#5968

MacDougall wrote:DH I want you to in dot point form outline the best reasons for lynching Wilgy. Lord knows Marsh, juliets and DharmaHelper have zero.

Here are the best reasons for Draconus.

1. Top of LC's scumlist
2. Last major breadcrumb left by HB before he died
3. Major suspect of Dom
4. Obvious buddying of DH, Metalmarsh and Ricochet
5. Earlier scum read of DH now resolving in buddying, scum read disappeareth!
6. Is just voting for whoever DH votes for
7. Hasn't made any of his own cases
8. Has compelling teammate connection with FZ
9. Told me to fuck off, how rude!
10. I read him scum early in the game and I am legendary at that

If your case against Wilgy is that convincing then I will vote for him.

I would, but I don't think it would be productive. I've laid out exactly why he's suspect in a number of posts.

#5969

MacDougall wrote:Can you ask your question again in a different way? I can't remember there being a connection that was obvious?

Don't know if I can. There's no connection that's supposed to be obvious. There's only a night power that we should consider.

#5970

Hello everyone! I go hiking and suddenly have 200 posts to catch up on? And I'm in vote lead again?

To anyone who can make it out to Texas, I highly recommend visiting Pedernales Falls
[spoiler]

I'm the sexy one closest to the Camera![/spoiler]

#5971

MacDougall wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:How bout Draconus trying to paint DH as the scum out of the LC flip and now arriving where we are him just buddying the fuck out of him?
I believe you!

Can we lynch Wilgy first?
Why not Drac first?
DH made his move first.
No he didn't. My vote was the first vote of the day and my suspicions of Draconus are as old as time itself.

It was only the fourth of the day, according to my spreadsheets.

#5972

DrWilgy wrote:Hello everyone! I go hiking and suddenly have 200 posts to catch up on? And I'm in vote lead again?

To anyone who can make it out to Texas, I highly recommend visiting Pedernales Falls
[spoiler]
I'm the sexy one closest to the Camera![/spoiler]

#5973

DharmaHelper wrote:
MacDougall wrote:DH I want you to in dot point form outline the best reasons for lynching Wilgy. Lord knows Marsh, juliets and DharmaHelper have zero.

Here are the best reasons for Draconus.

1. Top of LC's scumlist
2. Last major breadcrumb left by HB before he died
3. Major suspect of Dom
4. Obvious buddying of DH, Metalmarsh and Ricochet
5. Earlier scum read of DH now resolving in buddying, scum read disappeareth!
6. Is just voting for whoever DH votes for
7. Hasn't made any of his own cases
8. Has compelling teammate connection with FZ
9. Told me to fuck off, how rude!
10. I read him scum early in the game and I am legendary at that

If your case against Wilgy is that convincing then I will vote for him.
I would, but I don't think it would be productive. I've laid out exactly why he's suspect in a number of posts.

Explain how it's not productive? A summarisation of the case is a very productive thing for civvies who aren't giving a fuck.

#5974

Ricochet wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:How bout Draconus trying to paint DH as the scum out of the LC flip and now arriving where we are him just buddying the fuck out of him?
I believe you!

Can we lynch Wilgy first?
Why not Drac first?
DH made his move first.
No he didn't. My vote was the first vote of the day and my suspicions of Draconus are as old as time itself.
It was only the fourth of the day, according to my spreadsheets.

Look at the numbers next to the votes mate.

#5975

MacDougall wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
MacDougall wrote:DH I want you to in dot point form outline the best reasons for lynching Wilgy. Lord knows Marsh, juliets and DharmaHelper have zero.

Here are the best reasons for Draconus.

1. Top of LC's scumlist
2. Last major breadcrumb left by HB before he died
3. Major suspect of Dom
4. Obvious buddying of DH, Metalmarsh and Ricochet
5. Earlier scum read of DH now resolving in buddying, scum read disappeareth!
6. Is just voting for whoever DH votes for
7. Hasn't made any of his own cases
8. Has compelling teammate connection with FZ
9. Told me to fuck off, how rude!
10. I read him scum early in the game and I am legendary at that

If your case against Wilgy is that convincing then I will vote for him.
I would, but I don't think it would be productive. I've laid out exactly why he's suspect in a number of posts.
Explain how it's not productive? A summarisation of the case is a very productive thing for civvies who aren't giving a fuck.

I've made my points twice already (at least).

#5976

MacDougall wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:How bout Draconus trying to paint DH as the scum out of the LC flip and now arriving where we are him just buddying the fuck out of him?
I believe you!

Can we lynch Wilgy first?
Why not Drac first?
DH made his move first.
No he didn't. My vote was the first vote of the day and my suspicions of Draconus are as old as time itself.
It was only the fourth of the day, according to my spreadsheets.
Look at the numbers next to the votes mate.

Changeable votes ring a bell?

DH, MM and Draco all voted Sorsha as soon as D8 broke dawn.

#5977

Yeah, Rico. Was just about to say that the numbers change as votes are moved. Nub, Mac. Plus I am not as old as time. Did you suspect my ancestors?

#5978

Fuck off

#5979

MacDougall wrote:DH I want you to in dot point form outline the best reasons for lynching Wilgy. Lord knows Marsh, juliets and DharmaHelper have zero.

Well I've got no reason for lynching Draconus either.

DrWilgy wrote:Hello everyone! I go hiking and suddenly have 200 posts to catch up on? And I'm in vote lead again?

To anyone who can make it out to Texas, I highly recommend visiting Pedernales Falls
[spoiler]
I'm the sexy one closest to the Camera![/spoiler]

You can change the color of the font and the size for the word [spoiler]spoiler???[/spoiler]
This is a revelation!!!!!

#5980

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:DH I want you to in dot point form outline the best reasons for lynching Wilgy. Lord knows Marsh, juliets and DharmaHelper have zero.
Well I've got no reason for lynching Draconus either.

#5981

@Mac just for you I'm gonna work on congregating as much of the Wilgy stuff as time allows.

#5982

Ricochet wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:DH I want you to in dot point form outline the best reasons for lynching Wilgy. Lord knows Marsh, juliets and DharmaHelper have zero.
Well I've got no reason for lynching Draconus either.

That response was using Macdougall's logic.

Also look

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#5983

DharmaHelper wrote:@Mac just for you I'm gonna work on congregating as much of the Wilgy stuff as time allows.

Thank you based DharmaHelper.

#5984

MacDougall wrote:Fuck off

Love you, too.

Shit! I'm buddying again.

#5985

Draconus why haven't you argued with the points I am raising at all?

Am I taking fucking crazy pills?

#5986

MacDougall wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:@Mac just for you I'm gonna work on congregating as much of the Wilgy stuff as time allows.
Thank you based DharmaHelper.

Mkay this is just the recent stuff, don't have time/can't be bothered to go and do a complete re-read analysis of Wigglesworth McBaddiefart.

Our tale begins Here with the Boomslang flip. In the presence of my pestering, Sorsha makes this post, which is as textbook a distancing post as you could possibly ask for. She and Wilgy realize that I'm hot on the trail and are a bit too eager to start the distancing/damage control. I've already made several points as to why I believe Sorsha to have panicked so I won't reiterate that. Suffice it to say my working theory is that their team had some clever lynch shenanigans in place to cover Wilgy's ass and they didn't think anyone would catch on but your boy DH is woke.

Here Doc Wigglepants addresses Sorsha for a second before immediately pivoting the conversation. As Mac and I have discussed, this sort of thing is an indicator of distancing. Here he makes what I assume to be a jokey post saying Matt and Sorsha could be teammates. Doc feel free to clarify, but I don't recall you giving this any serious consideration.

In compiling this post, I've come across an interesting exchange between Wilgy and I that starts with that post. He asks me about my thoughts on Draconus, which I give him. This is important because as we'll see later, he's full of shit.

After the Night post Wilgy is, it seems, in the camp that Sorsha is good. Despite the post I've highlighted earlier, which shows Sorsha pretty solidly bussing her boy Wiggles.

Here he is openly rallying Sorsha to kick her ass into gear. Where did the enmity between them go?

And that's when we get to Dr. Wilgy's super bullshit, which I've previously highlighted and debunked Here and Here

Some of my problems with his B.S post:

- He completely made everything up, which I illustrated with like, less than 10 minutes of looking through my posts.
- He accused me of having a cavalier attitude towards Drac suspecting/voting for me, and yet after Sorsha literally bussed him he's rallying to keep her in the game? Lol ok.
- He completely ignores my new leads on Sorsha, instead focusing on Day 3 leads which he didn't even represent correctly.

Long story short:

- His reaction/Sorsha's reaction after pressured after the Boomslang flip
- Sorsha bussing him unnecessarily, and his cavalier reaction to it.
- His patently false post in which he puts forward absolutely zero facts.

Cool?

#5987

MacDougall wrote:Draconus why haven't you argued with the points I am raising at all?

Am I taking fucking crazy pills?

Yes. You are wrong and I am tired. What I see repeatedly from you is the word "buddying" and it makes me tired. I've already argued with you about that, and you haven't changed your tone. I'm not going to change my tone, either. So what's the point? I'm not in a rush to inflate my post count like some people seem to be.

#5988

Me waiting for Wilgy's defense

#5989

Oh now I remember why I wanted to highlight the conversation between me and Wilgy regarding Draco. We had that conversation, and he tried to say in his B.S post that I'd only jokingly referred to Draco/dismissed him. We literally had a conversation wherein that was not the case.

#5990

Draconus wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Draconus why haven't you argued with the points I am raising at all?

Am I taking fucking crazy pills?
Yes. You are wrong and I am tired. What I see repeatedly from you is the word "buddying" and it makes me tired. I've already argued with you about that, and you haven't changed your tone. I'm not going to change my tone, either. So what's the point? I'm not in a rush to inflate my post count like some people seem to be.

#5991

I know my defense of Wilgy is bordering on farcical but can we lynch Sorsha first? If she flips bad I will follow you to the ends of the Earth.

#5992

DharmaHelper wrote:Oh now I remember why I wanted to highlight the conversation between me and Wilgy regarding Draco. We had that conversation, and he tried to say in his B.S post that I'd only jokingly referred to Draco/dismissed him. We literally had a conversation wherein that was not the case.

Comfirmed. Still don't exactly like this guy ^ Never said I did. I just found better people to suss. And I happen to agree with some of the points he's making. That's it.

#5993

Oh so NOOOOOW you say that. When someone else feeds you the line. Fuck off Draco there is no way you have genuine opinions on anyone. You cannot possibly still "not like this guy". You are fucking lying.

#5994

MacDougall wrote:I know my defense of Wilgy is bordering on farcical but can we lynch Sorsha first? If she flips bad I will follow you to the ends of the Earth.

Rico wanted me to swap to Wiggles so I did, now you want me to swap back suddenly?

#5995

Draconus wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Oh now I remember why I wanted to highlight the conversation between me and Wilgy regarding Draco. We had that conversation, and he tried to say in his B.S post that I'd only jokingly referred to Draco/dismissed him. We literally had a conversation wherein that was not the case.
Comfirmed. Still don't exactly like this guy ^ Never said I did. I just found better people to suss. And I happen to agree with some of the points he's making. That's it.

#5996

DharmaHelper wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I know my defense of Wilgy is bordering on farcical but can we lynch Sorsha first? If she flips bad I will follow you to the ends of the Earth.
Rico wanted me to swap to Wiggles so I did, now you want me to swap back suddenly?

Listen to Papryco, or listen to chowchowbrowncow?

#5997

We'll see what Wilgy has to say for himself.

#5998

MacDougall wrote:I know my defense of Wilgy is bordering on farcical but can we lynch Sorsha first? If she flips bad I will follow you to the ends of the Earth.

I'm not going to flip bad.

Wilgy is not on my team.

I'm voting Draco. There is no way he is civ. Go look at endgame posts from him in AWR if you don't believe me. He was a lost lonely civvie who didn't know who to trust, complete opposite of what he is here now.

#5999

I may have to make him perma Papryco ...

#6000

Sorsha wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I know my defense of Wilgy is bordering on farcical but can we lynch Sorsha first? If she flips bad I will follow you to the ends of the Earth.
I'm not going to flip bad.

Wilgy is not on my team.

I'm voting Draco. There is no way he is civ. Go look at endgame posts from him in AWR if you don't believe me. He was a lost lonely civvie who didn't know who to trust, complete opposite of what he is here now.

Your response to your teammatesWilgy's bullshit post?

Full Games	Civilian: Mafia: Independent:
Speed Games	Civilian: Fiddler on the Roof Mafia:
Heists	Civilian: MVP: RED vs BLUE
Burglaries	Independent: The Theme Is Literally a Burglary
Special Games	Civilian: Independent:

Full Games	Civilian: Mafia: Independent:
Speed Games	Civilian: Fiddler on the Roof Mafia:
Heists	Civilian: MVP: RED vs BLUE
Burglaries	Independent: The Theme Is Literally a Burglary
Special Games	Civilian: Independent:

Full Games	Civilian: Mafia: Independent:
Speed Games	Civilian: Fiddler on the Roof Mafia:
Heists	Civilian: MVP: RED vs BLUE
Burglaries	Independent: The Theme Is Literally a Burglary
Special Games	Civilian: Independent:

Full Games	Civilian: Mafia: Independent:
Speed Games	Civilian: Fiddler on the Roof Mafia:
Heists	Civilian: MVP: RED vs BLUE
Burglaries	Independent: The Theme Is Literally a Burglary
Special Games	Civilian: Independent:

Full Games	Civilian: Mafia: Independent:
Speed Games	Civilian: Fiddler on the Roof Mafia:
Heists	Civilian: MVP: RED vs BLUE
Burglaries	Independent: The Theme Is Literally a Burglary
Special Games	Civilian: Independent:

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