Spirited Away Mafia [ENDGAME]

[S~V~S]

Wow. That was the most manipulative shitty lynch I have seen in a while.

Since when is suspecting LC a good voting reason, Faraday?

RIP Quin

[S~V~S]

Switched my vote to Quin
For the sake of a little
Certainty tonight

RIP Quin

There is a vote forcer in this game, a civ. When *I* am vote forced to vote for someone I don't think, or don't know, is bad, I generally vote not unlike G Man did. No one else was going to be lynched when he voted.

This lynch actually makes LC look better to me, and Faraday and Soneji worse. But I need to read again, you don't read as well when you are a bear. Big claws, small brain.

[S~V~S]

I was totally wrong about Quin, but I still don't see his case on LC. Sorsha's vote seemed rather throwaway to me though.

Bad bad bad bad

LC, have an opinion on Faraday?

[S~V~S]

Quin... Get back to work you lazy soot! Get... Back to... Work...

Wilgy hasn't answered why he voted me. I don't understand what his deal is, especially in light of Matt's actions last day phase.

Ji-san. Why did you ignore me?

Why do I fall asleep and we lynch players that aren't Elo?

I am going to concentrate on reading both you & Eloh today.

I have one serious downfall as a Mafia player (well, 2, I have been known to have tantrums)~ I have a tendency to Momma Bear people. As a character trait, protecting people you view as oppressed is a good one. In a game like this,though, it can, and has, led to me being taken advantage of bu the people I was protecting. I am well aware of this, but it is how I am.

Now, and I mean this with all due respect, and affection, a large part of how I have reacted to Eloh & to you is 100% based on how I am perceiving how you are talking to her. I feel bad for her, becasue I think you are being sort of mean. I am assuming this is a game related persona. As someone who does not know alot about the characters the role is based on this is possible. But I am not the only one not familiar with the film, so if that is the case you might want to throttle it back a bit. Logically I know that adopting a mean persona as a baddie would not be a wise move, and I honestly don't think you are bad partially based on this persona.

I am also confused about why you & LC suddenly became friends, at least from your perspective. There is one potential reason for this, and tbh, I don't know that i think that that is the case with you two.

And LC, I know how you absolutely freak out over people buddying you. Why do you think Wilgy suddenly started being president of your fan club?

[DrWilgy]

This is intriguing...

Are there key words or tempos in my text that have lead to this "meanness" that is being read. I have only a few posts where I wanted emotion to show, most of those being jokes anyways. I'm unsure about why you think LC and I are being friends regarding suspicions or not. I'm still worried about him the same I was before.

Eloh, if I'm being mean, please let me know how so. I don't want anyone to feel bullied, that would be an undoctorly thing to do.

[DFaraday]

Wow. That was the most manipulative shitty lynch I have seen in a while.

Since when is suspecting LC a good voting reason, Faraday?

RIP Quin

As I explained before, the way he seemed dead set on LC and seemed to take every opportunity to go after him made Quin look bad to me. Then when he came under fire, he did little to defend himself. And, as I mentioned, I'm not reading Wilgy as bad, and I didn't want him to get lynched.

But that is a nice strawman of my voting reason.

[S~V~S]

Wow. That was the most manipulative shitty lynch I have seen in a while.

Since when is suspecting LC a good voting reason, Faraday?

RIP Quin

As I explained before, the way he seemed dead set on LC and seemed to take every opportunity to go after him made Quin look bad to me. Then when he came under fire, he did little to defend himself. And, as I mentioned, I'm not reading Wilgy as bad, and I didn't want him to get lynched.

But that is a nice strawman of my voting reason.

Now that you know Quin was NOT bad, you seem to hold the same opinion, though.

And it isn't a "strawman"; there was no argument to be refuted, nor have I refuted one falsely. And not all of us are rhetoriticians. No need for the jargon. That was the reason you put forward for voting for him.

I'm voting Quin because I think his approach towards LC has felt shady, and he made little effort to deefend himself, which kind of read like defeated baddie to me. Also, I don't think Wilgy is bad.

He made rather a good effort to defend himself, IMO. At least I thought so screaming in silence land. And when you voted Wilgy had 2 votes, you were the 4th for Quin, right? So basically, you are buddying up to LC with this vote, right?

And @Wilgy, you sound surprised. Both Eloh & I have been talking about this; I have quite a bit. Ninju used the word "caustic". You are acting not like you. I am not sure who you ARE acting like, but it is someone not as kind or understandable as yourself

[DFaraday]

Wow. That was the most manipulative shitty lynch I have seen in a while.

Since when is suspecting LC a good voting reason, Faraday?

RIP Quin

As I explained before, the way he seemed dead set on LC and seemed to take every opportunity to go after him made Quin look bad to me. Then when he came under fire, he did little to defend himself. And, as I mentioned, I'm not reading Wilgy as bad, and I didn't want him to get lynched.

But that is a nice strawman of my voting reason.

Now that you know Quin was NOT bad, you seem to hold the same opinion, though.

And it isn't a "strawman"; there was no argument to be refuted, nor have I refuted one falsely. And not all of us are rhetoriticians. No need for the jargon. That was the reason you put forward for voting for him.

I'm voting Quin because I think his approach towards LC has felt shady, and he made little effort to deefend himself, which kind of read like defeated baddie to me. Also, I don't think Wilgy is bad.

He made rather a good effort to defend himself, IMO. At least I thought so screaming in silence land. And when you voted Wilgy had 2 votes, you were the 4th for Quin, right? So basically, you are buddying up to LC with this vote, right?

And @Wilgy, you sound surprised. Both Eloh & I have been talking about this; I have quite a bit. Ninju used the word "caustic". You are acting not like you. I am not sure who you ARE acting like, but it is someone not as kind or understandable as yourself

I'm still not seeing anything bad from Wilgy, if that's what you mean. I of course know Quin is civvie now, but I still think his defense left much to be desired:

Lynching me for Long Con's arguments is...bad

Lynching me because of separate reasons is...slightlylessbadbutstillprettybad

so plz no

That was a pretty unenthusiastic defense, Quin.

Yes, it was. I'm unenthusiastic about the concept of people no longer seeing LC as scum.

Quin won't cause any shenanigans by voting wilgy for self preservation, since he's civ. You should all vote LC or sprityo.

How do you know he's civ?

He doesn't. He just knows he's not bad, because Quin IS bad.

nah

These posts came off like a baddie throwing in the towel to me.

I think it was actually 3-3 when I voted. I was also considering voting Eloh again, but I'm sure then I would have been suspected for casting a throwaway vote.

I only used the term strawman because what it felt like you were doing was creating an oversimplified and misleading version of my voting reasons, then finding suspicion with that concocted reason. At no point did I say Quin was suspicious because he suspected LC; I said he was suspicious because he came across as tunneling LC, and I also didn't feel good about his defense. Throw in the added factor that I felt more confident about Wilgy than Quin, and the original reason was more multifaceted than the version with which you found suspicion.

[Long Con]

Quin... Get back to work you lazy soot! Get... Back to... Work...

Wilgy hasn't answered why he voted me. I don't understand what his deal is, especially in light of Matt's actions last day phase.

Ji-san. Why did you ignore me?

Why do I fall asleep and we lynch players that aren't Elo?

I am going to concentrate on reading both you & Eloh today.

I have one serious downfall as a Mafia player (well, 2, I have been known to have tantrums)~ I have a tendency to Momma Bear people. As a character trait, protecting people you view as oppressed is a good one. In a game like this,though, it can, and has, led to me being taken advantage of bu the people I was protecting. I am well aware of this, but it is how I am.

Now, and I mean this with all due respect, and affection, a large part of how I have reacted to Eloh & to you is 100% based on how I am perceiving how you are talking to her. I feel bad for her, becasue I think you are being sort of mean. I am assuming this is a game related persona. As someone who does not know alot about the characters the role is based on this is possible. But I am not the only one not familiar with the film, so if that is the case you might want to throttle it back a bit. Logically I know that adopting a mean persona as a baddie would not be a wise move, and I honestly don't think you are bad partially based on this persona.

I am also confused about why you & LC suddenly became friends, at least from your perspective. There is one potential reason for this, and tbh, I don't know that i think that that is the case with you two.

And LC, I know how you absolutely freak out over people buddying you. Why do you think Wilgy suddenly started being president of your fan club?

It's well known what I think of Wilgy - that he's the Stink Spirit. So his "buddying" doesn't faze me at all, I'm already not planning on voting for him. Not sure what "potential reason" is on your mind, this is more of a token friendship based on the mutual love of Dragonball Z. And may I say that I'm glad that the mutated fusion of Locolgy has finally ended, and I am my own, unmutated, unfused self once again! Thank god it wasn't earring-based, Wilgy! That sh*t frightens me.

[Long Con]

As for my views on DFaraday... I looked back over his posts. I saw when he said his reason for voting Dom on Day 1, and looked at Dom's posts up to that point, and I understand where he's coming from. I know the roles-based reasons for what you were saying about Dom, but I don't blame DF for not thinking of taking that into account.

Looking at the remainder of their interactions, I put DF more Civ than Dom on a rainbow list. That's not factoring in your roles-based theory, S~V~S.

DFaraday, who do you think you'll be voting for tomorrow?

[Elohcin]

I feel like I'm in the dark stumbling around trying to find the baddies.

SVS, I'm glad to have you back. Who would you have voted for Day 3 if you were allowed?

Wilgy, I agree that your tone is a bit mean and I do think you aren't playing like yourself. I'm mostly just confused as to why you are going so hard against me.

DF seems to be getting more involved and I feel like he is being helpful.

LC is becoming less trustworthy imo. His mannerisms seem sneakier and sneakier.

I am somewhat trusting of Dom atm.

I am on the fence with G-Man. His comment about his vote was suspicious to me. And I am not sure I buy SVS's explanation of it.

I think that's all for now....

[DrWilgy]

Wilgy will respite then, and figure out whats going on with himself...

Eloh I do think you are bad, but I don't want to be mean. Out of what happened last night though I think Ji and DF look the worst.

I'll get it right next time LC. I promise!

[S~V~S]

As for my views on DFaraday... I looked back over his posts. I saw when he said his reason for voting Dom on Day 1, and looked at Dom's posts up to that point, and I understand where he's coming from. I know the roles-based reasons for what you were saying about Dom, but I don't blame DF for not thinking of taking that into account.

Looking at the remainder of their interactions, I put DF more Civ than Dom on a rainbow list. That's not factoring in your roles-based theory, S~V~S.

DFaraday, who do you think you'll be voting for tomorrow?

Well, then we have to differ there. I think Faraday is supabad, and I think Dom is not.

@Eloh~ I would not have voted for you or Wilgy, tbh. LC may be right about him being the Stink, but I do not think he is a baddie. And like I said earlier with the Momma Bear thing, my view of you is not objective at this time. I think I would have tried to get Faraday lynched. I also feel less than great about LC, but I could go back and forth there. I am not seeing what Soneji is seeing with sig; quite the opposite. I am feeling pretty good about sig, and the more he seemed to tunnel sig, the worse i felt about Soneji.

[Elohcin]

Wilgy will respite then, and figure out whats going on with himself...

Eloh I do think you are bad, but I don't want to be mean. Out of what happened last night though I think Ji and DF look the worst.

I'll get it right next time LC. I promise!

Do you mean Soneji and DF? And what makes them look the worst to you? Their voting?

@ SVS, thanks for your opinions.

I think we need to get focused. I see several of us are in agreement on finding various players suspicious. We need to agree on one and not spread the votes. As I said, I need to look at wilgy with fresh eyes. I think I failed to do it Day 3. I will back off of him for now and try to look elsewhere. I know he thinks I'm bad, but he's wrong.

[G-Man]

DFarady will
Be at the top of my list
To re-read Day 4

[Long Con]

Faraday never came in to comment. Maybe he's just planning on voting for Dom.

[Marmot]

Night actions are due in 10 minutes. Don't forget to send your PMs in!!!

[Sorsha]

Switched my vote to Quin
For the sake of a little
Certainty tonight

RIP Quin

There is a vote forcer in this game, a civ. When *I* am vote forced to vote for someone I don't think, or don't know, is bad, I generally vote not unlike G Man did. No one else was going to be lynched when he voted.

This lynch actually makes LC look better to me, and Faraday and Soneji worse. But I need to read again, you don't read as well when you are a bear. Big claws, small brain.

Are you trying to say he was vote forced? Because I'm not seeing his actions fitting that explanation. Why come in and criticize late voters for manipulating the poll then make a last minute vote yourself.

[DFaraday]

Faraday never came in to comment. Maybe he's just planning on voting for Dom.

I don't even suspect Dom anymore. Right now I'm looking at Eloh and Sorsha, but there are a few other players I don't really recall anything about (Soneji, Sprit), so I'll be reviewing their posts, assuming I don't have to devote all my energy to defending myself.

[Sorsha]

I was totally wrong about Quin, but I still don't see his case on LC. Sorsha's vote seemed rather throwaway to me though.

I feel perfectly fine about my throwaway vote, I think what G-Man did at the end of the last lynch was shady.

Looks like my day one vote for you was probably well placed also.

[Marmot]

Day 4 - Grime for Days

Yubaba gives herself a holiday once a year. But it's not a true holiday. No, she spends her holiday relaxing inside her own bathhouse. Being that she literally owns the place and everything inside it, she can have whatever she wants with regards to food, bath, and attention.

This year was like any other year, Yubaba settled down in a tub that was specially designed for her. She was perturbed though, the walls around her weren't nearly as clean as they should be. Those little grunts of hers have been slacking.

"Why is there grime on these walls?" She spat out at a passing cleaner. "Just because I'm not a paying customer doesn't mean I'll be treated like this. I'll..." But the cleaner sped off before she could finish her sentence. Within seconds, he was back with a bucket of water, and cleaning away.

"No you idiot, don't go cleaning it now, I'm relaxing here!!! You get the cleaning done before the bather arrives. What makes you think I want to see you cleaning?" She ranted on.

The cleaner looked up. "Aye, I'm sorry ma'am. Aye, I thought I should clean it. I'll get it right next time, aye." he replied, shifting his feet.

"What's your name?" Yubaba demanded.

"Some people call me Jerry." He said. "Aye, but..."

"I don't want your buts. Get out of my sight! But before you do, do something about those ayes." She waved her hand.

Suddenly, Aniyaku came huffing into the room. "Yubaba! Terrible, terrible news. We've just gotten news that DrWilgette was hit by two trains." he managed to get out between breaths.

Yubaba sank down to her nose in the cooling bathwater. "I'm surrounded by fools." she burbled.



DrWilgette has been Nightkilled.

It is now Day 4. You have 48 hours to lynch somebody.

[Marmot]

I think I owe you all PMs and things.

[Marmot]

All PMs have been sent out. Happy Yubaba-hunting!

[DrWilgy]

This makes me unhappy

help


is good 4 u

[Marmot]

This makes me unhappy

help


is good 4 u

I can cheers to that.

[DrWilgy]

I'm oj 3 mimosas 2 shota and 1 beer. Who wants to argue?

[DrWilgy]

*dicuss

[Long Con]

My rye and cokes say... "Cool!" But as for Wilgette's sick murder, I say "Lame!" Play again with us, Wilgette, your time in this game was too brief!

[DrWilgy]

6shots LC BAD

[Long Con]

6shots LC BAD

Go to bed, you're not making any sense!

[Bubbles]

RIP Quin and DrWiglette, and sorry for being absent. i've been a bit sick with cold

[Bubbles]

DFaraday is not looking good

[Bubbles]

putting my vote on drwigly for his previous strange behavior (and because i dont know when i'll be next on) fingers crossed we catch another baddie!

[S~V~S]

DFaraday is not looking good

putting my vote on drwigly for his previous strange behavior (and because i dont know when i'll be next on) fingers crossed we catch another baddie!

??

RIP Wilgette, hopefully you can try again someday

[G-Man]

RIP DrWilgette
I will re-read most of the
Game thread today

[Dom]

Faraday never came in to comment. Maybe he's just planning on voting for Dom.

I don't even suspect Dom anymore. Right now I'm looking at Eloh and Sorsha, but there are a few other players I don't really recall anything about (Soneji, Sprit), so I'll be reviewing their posts, assuming I don't have to devote all my energy to defending myself.

Why can't you do both?

DFaraday is not looking good

putting my vote on drwigly for his previous strange behavior (and because i dont know when i'll be next on) fingers crossed we catch another baddie!

??

RIP Wilgette, hopefully you can try again someday

this. All of this.

[Long Con]

nijuukyugou gets my vote for the time being. She hardly here, and when she's here she has basically echoed popular points of conversation (Wilgy's weird, Matt was suspicious) and it felt like she was buddying me as well. So, she's my current top suspicion.

[Soneji]

Quin... Get back to work you lazy soot! Get... Back to... Work...

Wilgy hasn't answered why he voted me. I don't understand what his deal is, especially in light of Matt's actions last day phase.

Ji-san. Why did you ignore me?

Why do I fall asleep and we lynch players that aren't Elo?

I didn't know "Ji-san" was supposed to be me. I did address your thoughts on Eloh though earlier in the thread:

I find myself rather in agreement with Wilgy on Elo, mainly for the tunneling and indirect llama defending through discrediting Sloonei. Her latest interaction with SVS reads to me as her trying to buddy up to SVS by showing how she mimicked her.

I didn't like Wilgy's whole insanity earlier with Matt, its not something I will tolerate for any extended period of time.

Sig seems to really want to push a Matt lynch through with his point about the mafia extra voter, though there are a couple other plausible explanations why it wasn't used. The player with the role not being around or cutting their losses and saving it for later, with maybe a framjob involving Matt in mind. As I said earlier, didn't like his fencesitting on the Llama case.

This is intriguing...

Are there key words or tempos in my text that have lead to this "meanness" that is being read. I have only a few posts where I wanted emotion to show, most of those being jokes anyways. I'm unsure about why you think LC and I are being friends regarding suspicions or not. I'm still worried about him the same I was before.

Eloh, if I'm being mean, please let me know how so. I don't want anyone to feel bullied, that would be an undoctorly thing to do.

You wanted to show emotion, rather than genuinely were emotional?

As for my views on DFaraday... I looked back over his posts. I saw when he said his reason for voting Dom on Day 1, and looked at Dom's posts up to that point, and I understand where he's coming from. I know the roles-based reasons for what you were saying about Dom, but I don't blame DF for not thinking of taking that into account.

Looking at the remainder of their interactions, I put DF more Civ than Dom on a rainbow list. That's not factoring in your roles-based theory, S~V~S.

DFaraday, who do you think you'll be voting for tomorrow?

Well, then we have to differ there. I think Faraday is supabad, and I think Dom is not.

@Eloh~ I would not have voted for you or Wilgy, tbh. LC may be right about him being the Stink, but I do not think he is a baddie. And like I said earlier with the Momma Bear thing, my view of you is not objective at this time. I think I would have tried to get Faraday lynched. I also feel less than great about LC, but I could go back and forth there. I am not seeing what Soneji is seeing with sig; quite the opposite. I am feeling pretty good about sig, and the more he seemed to tunnel sig, the worse i felt about Soneji.

I have a feeling that we generally aren't going to see eye to eye much in games.

sig

[S~V~S]

I think you are pretty wrong about sig.

[S~V~S]

But sofar, on short acquaintance, I have been pretty right about you

Hey every one, who thinks sig is bad?

[Elohcin]

This makes me unhappy

help


is good 4 u

I don't like that the kill happened just as much as the next civ, but its not like she was participating. Did you kill her?

RIP Wilgette.
I am now off to chuck e. cheese for a birthday party. yip. eee. Send me positive thoughts. At least I'm not recovering from lots of alcohol like many of you. That would be a horrible combination.

linki SVS - I am unsure about sig

[S~V~S]

Does anyone think he is bad? If so why? If on the fence,why?

I definitely think he is not. I think he is an easy lynch most games, but having seen it happen so many times, I am getting a better grip on sig, and I think he is a civ.

This is a game with one bad team. Then need to make cases on civvies to win. Let's not let them.

Faraday, do you have an opinion on sig or on Soneji? What about you, LC?

[Soneji]

But sofar, on short acquaintance, I have been pretty right about you

Hey every one, who thinks sig is bad?

One game in which you didn't actually lynch me doesn't mean much

Does anyone think he is bad? If so why? If on the fence,why?

I definitely think he is not. I think he is an easy lynch most games, but having seen it happen so many times, I am getting a better grip on sig, and I think he is a civ.

This is a game with one bad team. Then need to make cases on civvies to win. Let's not let them.

Faraday, do you have an opinion on sig or on Soneji? What about you, LC?

I am always wary of lynching those who are from a general standpoint easy to mislynch, we have a fair amount of those on NF and I don't often misread/mislynch them. My gut feeling on him has gone up to my mind and it doesn't compute the reasoning for that feeling as being the kind of thing to worry of a mislynch over. My scumhunting methods seem to differ from most here, which is mostly the same as on NF. We'll see if overall they get similar results. There isn't a big enough sample to say yet.

[DFaraday]

Does anyone think he is bad? If so why? If on the fence,why?

I definitely think he is not. I think he is an easy lynch most games, but having seen it happen so many times, I am getting a better grip on sig, and I think he is a civ.

This is a game with one bad team. Then need to make cases on civvies to win. Let's not let them.

Faraday, do you have an opinion on sig or on Soneji? What about you, LC?

I don't see anything suspicious about Sig. His posts read genuine, and he voted early for Matt both times, which does not strike me as suspicious. It certainly doesn't qualify as bandwagoning or throwaway votes. His Soneji vote is okay, I guess. I haven't gotten to Soneji yet.

[S~V~S]

Thanks Faraday.

I am hoping to see who,if anyone, supports a lynch of sig. Glad to see you do not

[S~V~S]

I do want to hear
All the wisdom of G Man
Referring to sig

[DFaraday]

Thanks Faraday.

I am hoping to see who,if anyone, supports a lynch of sig. Glad to see you do not

[DFaraday]

Looking over Soneji's posts, I didn't find a whole lot suspicious, other than that he offered no opinion of Llama, despite having a quibble over No Lynch options. It felt like that could have been a bit of distancing, but as I didn't find anything else pingy, I'd rate him somewhere in the middle of the pack.

[DrWilgy]

@Eloh, I wouldn't have killed Wilgette if it was my win condition

[Soneji]

I can hardly see how me saying that I have found that those who jump on no lynch supporters are mafia is offering no opinion on Llama. My vote would have been on Llama had I not passed out that night and missed EoD.