MAD MAX: GAME OVER

[Quin]

I have not read up on why we ended up at a tie, but I see we have LoRab to thank for that. That all but confirms her as a townie, not that I had much doubt anymore. The biggest concern about Quin is that he's been too confident about Dom, obviously. Look at the rest of the townies who have been around for the last few days. We've all been hysterical, going back and forth trying to figure things out. But Quin has been 100% sure of Dom the whole time. Maybe he's right. Or maybe he just doesn't have that natural paranoia that comes with being town in a late game situation. Thank you for the delay, LoRab. I was feeling shaky myself but couldn't contribute anything. I hope we can work this out.

No, I'm probably not as paranoid as you or LoRab. I'm confident and I don't think I've ever been given a good reason for me to doubt my read. Dom's posts have barely anything in them that I can associate with townie behaviour. He's admitted he looks bad, but I mean, how can you look this bad without actually being bad?

So you know that I am town? Then why are you asking LoRab what she thinks of me?

As long as I believe Dom is bad then you obviously aren't. I'm asking LoRab because it's important, I want to discuss it, and I am listening to the alternatives.

As long as you believe Dom is bad then LoRab obviously isn't as well.

That's a given. But LoRab isn't the one who asked me that question.

[Sloonei]

Earlier in the game we did an exercise where a few of us tried to give one-sentence reasons why everyone could be town. I'd like to see Quin do that for Dom.

[Tangrowth]

I am fucking loving this end game. The cast is brilliant.

QFT

[Dom]

I have not read up on why we ended up at a tie, but I see we have LoRab to thank for that. That all but confirms her as a townie, not that I had much doubt anymore. The biggest concern about Quin is that he's been too confident about Dom, obviously. Look at the rest of the townies who have been around for the last few days. We've all been hysterical, going back and forth trying to figure things out. But Quin has been 100% sure of Dom the whole time. Maybe he's right. Or maybe he just doesn't have that natural paranoia that comes with being town in a late game situation. Thank you for the delay, LoRab. I was feeling shaky myself but couldn't contribute anything. I hope we can work this out.

No, I'm probably not as paranoid as you or LoRab. I'm confident and I don't think I've ever been given a good reason for me to doubt my read. Dom's posts have barely anything in them that I can associate with townie behaviour. He's admitted he looks bad, but I mean, how can you look this bad without actually being bad?

So you know that I am town? Then why are you asking LoRab what she thinks of me?

As long as I believe Dom is bad then you obviously aren't. I'm asking LoRab because it's important, I want to discuss it, and I am listening to the alternatives.

If you're not considering anyone else to be bad-- alternatives to what?

[LoRab]

LoRab, when I asked your reasoning for tying the vote, you said this:

LoRab, what are these reasons? Please change your vote.

I can't explain right now. Please trust me. Unless you're bad.

Moving your vote off Dom means you're hesitating on suspecting Dom. Asking me to trust you infers that you're also hesitant to suspect me. I'm left to believe that you tied the vote because you think we're both bad lynches. Am I correct? What are your thoughts on both Sloonei and INH?

It's more that I had enough hesitation about both of you that I wasn't sure enough about either of you and had enough doubt that I wanted more time to consider. I assume INH is Silvertongue. At this point, I believe Sloonei is civ. In my mind, it's between you and Dom.

[Sloonei]

The players I will be looking at today are:
Mac - simply b/c other players are finding him suspicious and I seem to be missing the hype. I need to reread him.
Lorab - b/c (no offence) I always see her playstyle as sneaky and bad and I need to decide if it's real or just my predisposition.
Quin - b/c he replaced a non-participant before replacing Glor who also said he cannot participate. I imagine a baddie would be replaced before a civ.
and
....not sure who else atm.

Let's come back to this post. Do we think Eloh is throwing one teammate under the bus to paint another in a more positive light?

[Sloonei]

Quin hops on the Elohcin case in his fifth post and never looked back:

Spoiler: show

It pains me to disparage a lady, but I do believe Elohcin's response to that random vote from her husband was a bit lifeless. Considering she is here to see Neil Hartley live and in the flesh, I know she isn't that bored. The look on her face, it's giving Neil the wrong impression.

So yeah, it was like after midnight when I posted that response to Epi. Maybe that's why it seems lifeless. Last night was my monthly ladies night out and I didn't come home until I had my fill of caramel apple sangria.

I cannot even remember what emoji I used. Wait....I do remember. Was it was "I'm wacko" one ...I think so. That emoji makes me think of someone being crazy and silly with their post/vote. I actually didn't even look to see he ACTUALLY voted for me. I thought he was kidding at the time. Maybe I ought to vote him back But probably not as I might be voting to save myself with it being so close and all.

I know nothing of this show, so JJJ is confusing me a bit. I may vote him. It seems a little 'trying too hard' to come in here role play like that right off the bat. Like he is trying to win us over. What do y'all think? And this is not WIFOM talking...whatever that is. I never understood that term completely. but you all seem to use it for when you go after someone who has gone after you? I don't know.

I'll hold off on voting for now.

I think this post was looked into already, but I'm gonna jump on and say I don't like this. It's wordy and more-so centered around being confused by the act than it is being suspicious of it.

Pro-Quin argument: Why would his first move in the game be to aggressively bus his teammate? He doesn't need to do that and could easily have settled in with something with less potential to harm his team.
Anti-Quin: He becomes very confident very quickly about Elohcin and, much like his Dom suspicion, never lets go. Plus there's the obvious WIFOM that comes with any instance of bussing.

[Dom]

The players I will be looking at today are:
Mac - simply b/c other players are finding him suspicious and I seem to be missing the hype. I need to reread him.
Lorab - b/c (no offence) I always see her playstyle as sneaky and bad and I need to decide if it's real or just my predisposition.
Quin - b/c he replaced a non-participant before replacing Glor who also said he cannot participate. I imagine a baddie would be replaced before a civ.
and
....not sure who else atm.

Let's come back to this post. Do we think Eloh is throwing one teammate under the bus to paint another in a more positive light?

I could see Eloh doing that.

[Sloonei]

The players I will be looking at today are:
Mac - simply b/c other players are finding him suspicious and I seem to be missing the hype. I need to reread him.
Lorab - b/c (no offence) I always see her playstyle as sneaky and bad and I need to decide if it's real or just my predisposition.
Quin - b/c he replaced a non-participant before replacing Glor who also said he cannot participate. I imagine a baddie would be replaced before a civ.
and
....not sure who else atm.

Let's come back to this post. Do we think Eloh is throwing one teammate under the bus to paint another in a more positive light?

I could see Eloh doing that.

Go on

[Quin]

Earlier in the game we did an exercise where a few of us tried to give one-sentence reasons why everyone could be town. I'd like to see Quin do that for Dom.

Dom refused to answer questions properly in RoT3K and he was town.

[Quin]

I have not read up on why we ended up at a tie, but I see we have LoRab to thank for that. That all but confirms her as a townie, not that I had much doubt anymore. The biggest concern about Quin is that he's been too confident about Dom, obviously. Look at the rest of the townies who have been around for the last few days. We've all been hysterical, going back and forth trying to figure things out. But Quin has been 100% sure of Dom the whole time. Maybe he's right. Or maybe he just doesn't have that natural paranoia that comes with being town in a late game situation. Thank you for the delay, LoRab. I was feeling shaky myself but couldn't contribute anything. I hope we can work this out.

No, I'm probably not as paranoid as you or LoRab. I'm confident and I don't think I've ever been given a good reason for me to doubt my read. Dom's posts have barely anything in them that I can associate with townie behaviour. He's admitted he looks bad, but I mean, how can you look this bad without actually being bad?

So you know that I am town? Then why are you asking LoRab what she thinks of me?

As long as I believe Dom is bad then you obviously aren't. I'm asking LoRab because it's important, I want to discuss it, and I am listening to the alternatives.

If you're not considering anyone else to be bad-- alternatives to what?

I never once said I wasn't considering anyone else to be bad. You are a pure black read on my rainbow list. It would take an absolutely fantastic case to help me see you in a better light. That does not mean I'm not open to at least hearing cases against anyone else.

[Quin]

Quin hops on the Elohcin case in his fifth post and never looked back:

Spoiler: show

It pains me to disparage a lady, but I do believe Elohcin's response to that random vote from her husband was a bit lifeless. Considering she is here to see Neil Hartley live and in the flesh, I know she isn't that bored. The look on her face, it's giving Neil the wrong impression.

So yeah, it was like after midnight when I posted that response to Epi. Maybe that's why it seems lifeless. Last night was my monthly ladies night out and I didn't come home until I had my fill of caramel apple sangria.

I cannot even remember what emoji I used. Wait....I do remember. Was it was "I'm wacko" one ...I think so. That emoji makes me think of someone being crazy and silly with their post/vote. I actually didn't even look to see he ACTUALLY voted for me. I thought he was kidding at the time. Maybe I ought to vote him back But probably not as I might be voting to save myself with it being so close and all.

I know nothing of this show, so JJJ is confusing me a bit. I may vote him. It seems a little 'trying too hard' to come in here role play like that right off the bat. Like he is trying to win us over. What do y'all think? And this is not WIFOM talking...whatever that is. I never understood that term completely. but you all seem to use it for when you go after someone who has gone after you? I don't know.

I'll hold off on voting for now.

I think this post was looked into already, but I'm gonna jump on and say I don't like this. It's wordy and more-so centered around being confused by the act than it is being suspicious of it.

Pro-Quin argument: Why would his first move in the game be to aggressively bus his teammate? He doesn't need to do that and could easily have settled in with something with less potential to harm his team.
Anti-Quin: He becomes very confident very quickly about Elohcin and, much like his Dom suspicion, never lets go. Plus there's the obvious WIFOM that comes with any instance of bussing.

I don't like that you're saying 'never let go'. Although I did believe in it, Elohcin was by no means as strong a suspicion as my case against Dom. I only voted for Eloh once in the game so saying that I would never let it go is just an assumption. And before you ask, I don't know if I'd have changed my mind on her.

[Dom]

I have not read up on why we ended up at a tie, but I see we have LoRab to thank for that. That all but confirms her as a townie, not that I had much doubt anymore. The biggest concern about Quin is that he's been too confident about Dom, obviously. Look at the rest of the townies who have been around for the last few days. We've all been hysterical, going back and forth trying to figure things out. But Quin has been 100% sure of Dom the whole time. Maybe he's right. Or maybe he just doesn't have that natural paranoia that comes with being town in a late game situation. Thank you for the delay, LoRab. I was feeling shaky myself but couldn't contribute anything. I hope we can work this out.

No, I'm probably not as paranoid as you or LoRab. I'm confident and I don't think I've ever been given a good reason for me to doubt my read. Dom's posts have barely anything in them that I can associate with townie behaviour. He's admitted he looks bad, but I mean, how can you look this bad without actually being bad?

So you know that I am town? Then why are you asking LoRab what she thinks of me?

As long as I believe Dom is bad then you obviously aren't. I'm asking LoRab because it's important, I want to discuss it, and I am listening to the alternatives.

If you're not considering anyone else to be bad-- alternatives to what?

I never once said I wasn't considering anyone else to be bad. You are a pure black read on my rainbow list. It would take an absolutely fantastic case to help me see you in a better light. That does not mean I'm not open to at least hearing cases against anyone else.

So... I'm 100% bad, but you'll hear out other people in case they're right, but that... doesn't... make/?? sense?~?!!!!

[Dom]

The players I will be looking at today are:
Mac - simply b/c other players are finding him suspicious and I seem to be missing the hype. I need to reread him.
Lorab - b/c (no offence) I always see her playstyle as sneaky and bad and I need to decide if it's real or just my predisposition.
Quin - b/c he replaced a non-participant before replacing Glor who also said he cannot participate. I imagine a baddie would be replaced before a civ.
and
....not sure who else atm.

Let's come back to this post. Do we think Eloh is throwing one teammate under the bus to paint another in a more positive light?

I could see Eloh doing that.

Go on

It's something I could see her doing? I don't really know what elaboration you expect there.

[Quin]

I have not read up on why we ended up at a tie, but I see we have LoRab to thank for that. That all but confirms her as a townie, not that I had much doubt anymore. The biggest concern about Quin is that he's been too confident about Dom, obviously. Look at the rest of the townies who have been around for the last few days. We've all been hysterical, going back and forth trying to figure things out. But Quin has been 100% sure of Dom the whole time. Maybe he's right. Or maybe he just doesn't have that natural paranoia that comes with being town in a late game situation. Thank you for the delay, LoRab. I was feeling shaky myself but couldn't contribute anything. I hope we can work this out.

No, I'm probably not as paranoid as you or LoRab. I'm confident and I don't think I've ever been given a good reason for me to doubt my read. Dom's posts have barely anything in them that I can associate with townie behaviour. He's admitted he looks bad, but I mean, how can you look this bad without actually being bad?

So you know that I am town? Then why are you asking LoRab what she thinks of me?

As long as I believe Dom is bad then you obviously aren't. I'm asking LoRab because it's important, I want to discuss it, and I am listening to the alternatives.

If you're not considering anyone else to be bad-- alternatives to what?

I never once said I wasn't considering anyone else to be bad. You are a pure black read on my rainbow list. It would take an absolutely fantastic case to help me see you in a better light. That does not mean I'm not open to at least hearing cases against anyone else.

So... I'm 100% bad, but you'll hear out other people in case they're right, but that... doesn't... make/?? sense?~?!!!!

You're bad until I hear a case that trumps my case on you. I do not see that happening, but I'd be stupid to refuse to acknowledge the alternatives.

[Tangrowth]

CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS OMG THIS GAME

[G-Man]

NIGHT PROWLER

The tensile yield strength of stainless steel is 31,200 pounds per square inch. At this point, the pressure being applied causes permanent deformation of the metal. The tensile ultimate strength of stainless steel is a whopping 73,200 pounds per square inch. At this point, the metal will fracture or shatter, depending on thickness and form.

In contrast, human skin will tear when 100 pounds of force per square inch (give or take) is applied to it. But that's just the epidermis. The dermal layer is thicker and fuller, requiring more force, pressure, or torque to puncture. Not a whole lot more but enough to make a difference. Subcutaneous tissue is dense, adipose tissue in particular, and varies in thickness. Adipose tissue becomes firmer where more and more of it gathers. Depending on the individual, this layer could be as soft as room temperature butter or or as stiff as canvas. Muscle fibers are stronger yet, though the amount of resistance they provide depends on the quantity present, the fitness of the area being penetrated, and any tension exerted to that muscle group at the time.

Bones are another thing entirely. At the weakest point on small bones like fingers and toes, only 25 pounds of pressure is required to cause a fracture. The larger and denser the bone, the more force it takes to break. The average human femur requires 1,700 pounds per square inch to generate a clean, all-the-way-through break.

While this all may sound like the human body is no match for stainless steel, consider that all of these pressure ratings are per square inch. The smaller the puncturing object, the more magnified the pressure becomes on the tip. The sharper the knife and the finer the point, the more susceptible it is to breaking.

Breaking a knife inside a human body depends on a number of factors. Some we've already discussed- body mass, density of adipose tissue in relation to the puncture point, fitness and tension of the muscle fibers, the presence of any bones in the path of the blade. Other factors includes the movement of the body being stabbed, the size and form of the blade being used, and the experience of the attacker with stabbing people.

Bubba Zanetti was better with a pistol than he was with a knife but it was a useful exercise nonetheless (no need to draw attention to yourself with a gunshot after all). Insertnamehere was lean, fit, and struggled mightily. Bubba managed ten successful strikes in the side and back before his victim's twisting cause the knife to break across one of his ribs. By that point, however, the damage was done.

He suffered but not for too long.

--------------------------------------------

INSERTNAMEHERE has been killed.

It is now Day 11.

[LoRab]

RIP INH. I honestly did not expect that. And am not sure which of the folks still alive would have done that. I honestly half expected to come back to the game to find myself dead.

[Quin]

I voted.

[LoRab]

Quin: In a few sentences: What originally made you completely convinced that Dom was bad?

Dom: In a few sentences: What originally made you completely convinced that Quin was bad?

[Quin]

Quin: In a few sentences: What originally made you completely convinced that Dom was bad?

I was not 'completely convinced' until about Day 7, when I did my proper ISO looking at the occurrences where he would lash out against questions he didn't respond to properly. Everything I've discussed since has solidified that.

[Dom]

Quin: In a few sentences: What originally made you completely convinced that Dom was bad?

Dom: In a few sentences: What originally made you completely convinced that Quin was bad?

Process of elimination. That's completely convinced. I mean, I don't think you are bad and I don't think Sloonei is bad. Therefore, Quin is bad.

However, suspicions rose when I thought he was being unfair to me on Day 6. I thought he was trying to paint me in a certain light (a negative one) rather than talk to me. He has continually avoided voting baddies by voting me and trying to get me lynched instead of the last two baddies we have nabbed. His internal logic on his reasoning here makes no sense and matches the strategy that Epig used to try and get the lynch of of Glorfindel.

[Quin]

Interestingly, you're the one who most often was seen as the one refusing to talk, Dom.

[insertnamehere]

NIGHT PROWLER

The tensile yield strength of stainless steel is 31,200 pounds per square inch. At this point, the pressure being applied causes permanent deformation of the metal. The tensile ultimate strength of stainless steel is a whopping 73,200 pounds per square inch. At this point, the metal will fracture or shatter, depending on thickness and form.

In contrast, human skin will tear when 100 pounds of force per square inch (give or take) is applied to it. But that's just the epidermis. The dermal layer is thicker and fuller, requiring more force, pressure, or torque to puncture. Not a whole lot more but enough to make a difference. Subcutaneous tissue is dense, adipose tissue in particular, and varies in thickness. Adipose tissue becomes firmer where more and more of it gathers. Depending on the individual, this layer could be as soft as room temperature butter or or as stiff as canvas. Muscle fibers are stronger yet, though the amount of resistance they provide depends on the quantity present, the fitness of the area being penetrated, and any tension exerted to that muscle group at the time.

Bones are another thing entirely. At the weakest point on small bones like fingers and toes, only 25 pounds of pressure is required to cause a fracture. The larger and denser the bone, the more force it takes to break. The average human femur requires 1,700 pounds per square inch to generate a clean, all-the-way-through break.

While this all may sound like the human body is no match for stainless steel, consider that all of these pressure ratings are per square inch. The smaller the puncturing object, the more magnified the pressure becomes on the tip. The sharper the knife and the finer the point, the more susceptible it is to breaking.

Breaking a knife inside a human body depends on a number of factors. Some we've already discussed- body mass, density of adipose tissue in relation to the puncture point, fitness and tension of the muscle fibers, the presence of any bones in the path of the blade. Other factors includes the movement of the body being stabbed, the size and form of the blade being used, and the experience of the attacker with stabbing people.

Bubba Zanetti was better with a pistol than he was with a knife but it was a useful exercise nonetheless (no need to draw attention to yourself with a gunshot after all). Insertnamehere was lean, fit, and struggled mightily. Bubba managed ten successful strikes in the side and back before his victim's twisting cause the knife to break across one of his ribs. By that point, however, the damage was done.

He suffered but not for too long.

--------------------------------------------

INSERTNAMEHERE has been killed.

It is now Day 11.

THANK YOU BUBBA ZANETTI

looks like my reverse psychology worked like a charm

[Dom]

Earlier in the game we did an exercise where a few of us tried to give one-sentence reasons why everyone could be town. I'd like to see Quin do that for Dom.

Dom refused to answer questions properly in RoT3K and he was town.

I don't even know what this means.

[Quin]

Earlier in the game we did an exercise where a few of us tried to give one-sentence reasons why everyone could be town. I'd like to see Quin do that for Dom.

Dom refused to answer questions properly in RoT3K and he was town.

I don't even know what this means.

Spoiler: show

Do I even have to explain why this is bad?

Yes.

Don't trust this guy. Folks, we got another liar on our hands !

(c) Paid for by dom/Nju2016

We really gave this dialogue a great effort.

Looks like we got another corrupt official up in here-- Tricky Jay.

(c) Paid for by Dom/Nju 2016.

[Dom]

sigh.
that has nothing to do with this game.

and is less funny now.

[Quin]

sigh.
that has nothing to do with this game.

and is less funny now.

Thanks for giving me permission not to associate that with town behaviour, then.

[Dom]

That's not what I said.

What does not answering questions "properly" mean?
Like you are just grand supreme questioner?

[Quin]

That's not what I said.

What does not answering questions "properly" mean?
Like you are just grand supreme questioner?

properly
ˈprɒp(ə)li/Submit
adverb
1.
correctly or satisfactorily.
"ensuring the work is carried out properly"
2.
in the strict sense; exactly.
"algebra is, properly speaking, the analysis of equations"

[Dom]

I know what the word properly means.

In context you are using it to mean: I didn't answer questions the way you wanted me to.

That's an awfully suspicious line of thinknig.

[Quin]

I know what the word properly means.

In context you are using it to mean: I didn't answer questions the way you wanted me to.

That's an awfully suspicious line of thinknig.

No. You don't answer questions at all. And when you get pressed for more information you lash out at them.
However, you also lash out when people don't answer questions the way you want them to. I pointed this specific part out in your interactions of LoRab, which you immediately attempted to discredit.

[Dom]

I know what the word properly means.

In context you are using it to mean: I didn't answer questions the way you wanted me to.

That's an awfully suspicious line of thinknig.

No. You don't answer questions at all. And when you get pressed for more information you lash out at them.
However, you also lash out when people don't answer questions the way you want them to. I pointed this specific part out in your interactions of LoRab, which you immediately attempted to discredit.

I have done nothing but answer questions since Day 6.

[Quin]

I know what the word properly means.

In context you are using it to mean: I didn't answer questions the way you wanted me to.

That's an awfully suspicious line of thinknig.

No. You don't answer questions at all. And when you get pressed for more information you lash out at them.
However, you also lash out when people don't answer questions the way you want them to. I pointed this specific part out in your interactions of LoRab, which you immediately attempted to discredit.

I have done nothing but answer questions since Day 6.

Tell that to my constant attempts to engage in a dialogue with you since Day 6.

[Sloonei]

Will whichever of you is bad just confess?

[Dom]

I know what the word properly means.

In context you are using it to mean: I didn't answer questions the way you wanted me to.

That's an awfully suspicious line of thinknig.

No. You don't answer questions at all. And when you get pressed for more information you lash out at them.
However, you also lash out when people don't answer questions the way you want them to. I pointed this specific part out in your interactions of LoRab, which you immediately attempted to discredit.

I have done nothing but answer questions since Day 6.

Tell that to my constant attempts to engage in a dialogue with you since Day 6.

If by constant attempt at dialogue you mean voting me to avoid voting for your teammates, then you are absolutely correct-- I avoided dialgoue with you.

[Quin]

I know what the word properly means.

In context you are using it to mean: I didn't answer questions the way you wanted me to.

That's an awfully suspicious line of thinknig.

No. You don't answer questions at all. And when you get pressed for more information you lash out at them.
However, you also lash out when people don't answer questions the way you want them to. I pointed this specific part out in your interactions of LoRab, which you immediately attempted to discredit.

I have done nothing but answer questions since Day 6.

Tell that to my constant attempts to engage in a dialogue with you since Day 6.

If by constant attempt at dialogue you mean voting me to avoid voting for your teammates, then you are absolutely correct-- I avoided dialgoue with you.

No, I am referring to posts like this...

Spoiler: show

I do not understand why Dom is connecting open-mindedness with lack of scum hunting.

Because he is literally contradicting himself?!?!?!


No one is listening to me at all. If you're really interested in hearing me out, you'd read my damn posts and NOT suddenly decide it's lynch Dom day and ignore half the things I've said. How many people keep saying they're going to "give me a read"? I've yet to see one ISO.

Please show me the contradiction.

and this...

Spoiler: show

Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

Literally what teh hell

Is this a question? I'm not sold on the yelling-loudly-is-town defence so what are you saying about my switch?

It's not yelling loudly.
It's being harassed by two players for two straight days. Constantly being "misunderstood" (like when Quinn "misread" my statments and lied about Mac's stance on me). Constantly being told I didn't post something I have.
Motel room-- why did you vote for me in the first place? That's a question you've yet to answer.


ALSO
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 92#p305992
Here's Quinn saying, two days ago, that I need an ISO. Later, he piles votes on me for literally no reason. He's a shill and a bad one at it.

Tell me what the advantage is for me in lying that Mac scum-read you. You proved me wrong within 5 minutes. What did I get out of that?

I'm going through the question that you couldn't be bothered elaborating on Dom.

and this...

Spoiler: show

Quin, your vote is currently worthless. I suggest moving it.

No it's not. I think Dom is bad. People should vote Dom.

Bring it on.

You're the one that has lied extensively about my record, but that's okay.

I didn't lie about Mac suspecting you. There is no benefit in that, unless you want to finally acknowledge what I've been asking you.

I did misunderstand something Sloonei said which led to our dialogue earlier. You have free reign to suspect me for that, if that's a contributing factor.

and this...

Spoiler: show

I think Dom looked alright at the end of the day yesterday, if that is what you're referencing, Quin. It makes sense if we assume that he believed you and me to be bad. To him it looked like we were the ones deliberately avoiding answering his questions, when it reality I think it was just a series of miscommunications going back and forth between him and us. I think it would be beneficial if we could work through the problems he had, and the problems we had, in a more level-headed manner today. There wasn't really time to stop and catch our collective breath when it was all happening the other day.

I'd like to talk through his case with me properly, which is why I waited for him to put everything on the table. He has not. What I'm referring to in the 'refusal to answer questions properly' thing extends beyond just his interaction with you and me.

and this...

Spoiler: show

Here's that ISO Dom was itching for. Every occurrence of one of the two codes I mentioned earlier in his posts:

Snipped

I voted for Dom. I would like him to talk about his case against me.

and this...

Spoiler: show

Is there going to be any activity or we just twiddling our thumbs while waiting for Glorfindel to flip?

Dom is the one I want to talk to, but he's not here. If he shows up I'll have something to talk about. Is there anything you wanted to talk about?

and this...

Spoiler: show

Dom still has not addressed the case on him.

[Dom]

Almost all of those are about the same thing. No, I didn't go back after I needed space from the thread and double check for everything.


And specifically on the mac issue, I did respond to you. You just didn't like hwat you heard.

[Quin]

Almost all of those are about the same thing. No, I didn't go back after I needed space from the thread and double check for everything.


And specifically on the mac issue, I did respond to you. You just didn't like hwat you heard.

It doesn't matter what they were about. The fact is for nearly an entire day and night phase you completely ignored me in my effort to get a better read on you. And on the Mac issue, you didn't properly answer me until much later. Your initial response was:

Spoiler: show

Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

Literally what teh hell

Is this a question? I'm not sold on the yelling-loudly-is-town defence so what are you saying about my switch?

It's not yelling loudly.
It's being harassed by two players for two straight days. Constantly being "misunderstood" (like when Quinn "misread" my statments and lied about Mac's stance on me). Constantly being told I didn't post something I have.
Motel room-- why did you vote for me in the first place? That's a question you've yet to answer.


ALSO
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 92#p305992
Here's Quinn saying, two days ago, that I need an ISO. Later, he piles votes on me for literally no reason. He's a shill and a bad one at it.

Tell me what the advantage is for me in lying that Mac scum-read you. You proved me wrong within 5 minutes. What did I get out of that?

I'm going through the question that you couldn't be bothered elaborating on Dom.

Quin have you seen me lynched before?

Which you then used my reply as a basis to shade me with the idea that I wouldn't bother coming up with a proper case against you because I didn't know your track record when it came to being lynched.

[Dom]

i think you thought I might be an easy lynch.

[Sloonei]

I put my vote on Quin.

[Quin]

I put my vote on Quin.

I'd like to know why.

[LoRab]

I put my vote on Quin.

Really? Because I was leaning the other way. Shit, man.

[Sloonei]

I put my vote on Quin.

I'd like to know why.

You have not seemed receptive enough to alternative theories to your "Dom is bad" position. I'd like to see evidence that you seriously entertained the idea that myself or LoRab could be bad.

[Quin]

I put my vote on Quin.

I'd like to know why.

You have not seemed receptive enough to alternative theories to your "Dom is bad" position. I'd like to see evidence that you seriously entertained the idea that myself or LoRab could be bad.

There is not a single thing in this game that I can say points towards a townie Dom. His posts. His attitude. His interactions. It is impossible for me to entertain the idea of either of you being bad when I see no feasible scenario in which Dom is a civilian. You're right that I'm not 'receptive' enough to the alternatives, because nothing anyone has had to say, nor anything I've found in yours or LoRab's posts since the outset of my suspicion has come anywhere near the point that would make me question my read. That does not mean I'm not listening. Whatever 'evidence' you're looking for doesn't exist, because I haven't found a reason to entertain it.

What I have done is found solid reasons to see LoRab as town. I have not extended the same courtesy to you, because you've never inspired me. But it can't be you, because it's Dom.

[Sloonei]

I'll have a look through the thread again tomorrow evening. Right now I have to be up in a few hours for work again in the morning. It never stops. My mind is far from made up. I'll refrain from asking questions for now because I assume all the answers I am looking for are already in the thread.

[Dom]

I put my vote on Quin.

I'd like to know why.

You have not seemed receptive enough to alternative theories to your "Dom is bad" position. I'd like to see evidence that you seriously entertained the idea that myself or LoRab could be bad.

There is not a single thing in this game that I can say points towards a townie Dom. His posts. His attitude. His interactions. It is impossible for me to entertain the idea of either of you being bad when I see no feasible scenario in which Dom is a civilian. You're right that I'm not 'receptive' enough to the alternatives, because nothing anyone has had to say, nor anything I've found in yours or LoRab's posts since the outset of my suspicion has come anywhere near the point that would make me question my read. That does not mean I'm not listening. Whatever 'evidence' you're looking for doesn't exist, because I haven't found a reason to entertain it.

What I have done is found solid reasons to see LoRab as town. I have not extended the same courtesy to you, because you've never inspired me. But it can't be you, because it's Dom.

See, this is the kind of internal contradiction that makes no sense.

He says that he's "receptive" to other arguments to appear open minded and ready for dialogue. However, this post totally destroys that. He's not open minded at all.


We have discussed why we don't think LoRab is bad. I think Sloonei is civ. I could be wrong on one of those two fronts, but Quin is my best guess at a baddie.

[Quin]

I put my vote on Quin.

I'd like to know why.

You have not seemed receptive enough to alternative theories to your "Dom is bad" position. I'd like to see evidence that you seriously entertained the idea that myself or LoRab could be bad.

There is not a single thing in this game that I can say points towards a townie Dom. His posts. His attitude. His interactions. It is impossible for me to entertain the idea of either of you being bad when I see no feasible scenario in which Dom is a civilian. You're right that I'm not 'receptive' enough to the alternatives, because nothing anyone has had to say, nor anything I've found in yours or LoRab's posts since the outset of my suspicion has come anywhere near the point that would make me question my read. That does not mean I'm not listening. Whatever 'evidence' you're looking for doesn't exist, because I haven't found a reason to entertain it.

What I have done is found solid reasons to see LoRab as town. I have not extended the same courtesy to you, because you've never inspired me. But it can't be you, because it's Dom.

See, this is the kind of internal contradiction that makes no sense.

He says that he's "receptive" to other arguments to appear open minded and ready for dialogue. However, this post totally destroys that. He's not open minded at all.


We have discussed why we don't think LoRab is bad. I think Sloonei is civ. I could be wrong on one of those two fronts, but Quin is my best guess at a baddie.

'Listening' and 'being receptive to' are not synonymous. I'm willing to listen to the arguments other people are making and have a conversation about them. Hell, that's was my intention when I questioned LoRab's decision to tie the vote yesterday. That doesn't mean that I'm going to change my mind when the arguments I'm provided with are weak-sauce in comparison to yours.

[Sloonei]

LoRab, why are you leaning toward Dom? This day and the game depend on the two of us coming to an agreement. Let's put our heads together.

[Dom]

I'll buy you a smaller set of tweezers to keep splitting those hairs, Quin.