Pokemon Mafia [ENDGAME]

#1251

Boo, stop being 2015 me ffs.

#1252

Aside from his name in post-survival wall post, here's every instance where DF interactions with G-Man.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:02 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:26 pm I'm not fine with putting such a strategy together based solely on one person's preferences. If Jack wants a list, let's all submit five or six names and select the ones that appear the most. If the plan can indeed thumb the scale in our favor, then it's too important to be nonchalant about picking names.
I agree. I don't even know some of the people on Jack's list. Although I'm really not crazy about this plan, since there's every chance we could end up empowering one or more baddies, who then will immediately take out their fellow power roles. Furthermore, if Mew/Mewtwo are part of the Oceanic Six, we'll spend the game funneling points into a black hole.

I think it might be more effective to allot points this round to a group of six, as suggested, then rotate on future rounds so that other players can get powers. Granted, this strategy pretty much ensures giving Mafia powers, but it would also keep an array of civvie powers in play even if Mafia start NKing power roles.

Discussion of evolution strategies.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:40 pm If we're still considering alternatives to Jack's list:

G-Man
Boo
DDL
Dyslexicon

Those are the only ones I'm leaning somewhat civ on so far.

Promotion for G-Man to get an evo point.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:58 pm What don't people like about G-Man? He's not a super high poster, but I'm getting a genuine attempt at helpfulness from him.

Boo, you said before you wanted to lynch LC. Is this still the case?

Soft defence of the guy.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:20 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:47 pm Is anyone suspicious of Dragon D. Luffy or DrWilgy? According to my spreadsheet, neither one has received a vote all game. There's been mentions of them but never any votes. Neverwhere hasn't received any votes either but her circumstances are different. DDL and Wilgy have plenty of content to comb through and haven't had as many things holding them back from the thread. Perhaps these folks haven't been high enough on our suspiciometers or perhaps we collectively latch onto other options that push them aside.

Thoughts?

Linki: well then. Hi there Wilgy. Any other thoughts on Dyslexicon, DDL, or Fred? What other specifics stand out to you?
Wilgy is one of my top suspects today because of his chummy tone with Sprityo. Also his voting record doesn't help him at all. Mac and Fred are also possibilities, so if I can look over their posts and try to find any Sprityo connections. That's a big if right now though.

Talking about suspects.

Overall, it's sunshine and rainbows. I hate sunshine and rainbows.

#1253

I'm voting G-Man. I'm confident he's our evil squid.

#1254

It just dawned on me that we may actually see everyone vote today. That hasn't happened all game.

If I move Neverwhere to a yellow color, I am left looking at DDL, Dyslexicon, and Quin. Of the three, I feel like Dyslexicon or Quin could be the final baddie. Dyslexicon disappeared sometime during Night 1, not to be seen again for ages. Dom was absent until Quin took over mid-game, a-la Golden the Coward 2.0 in Economics Mafia.

#1255

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:22 pm It just dawned on me that we may actually see everyone vote today. That hasn't happened all game.

If I move Neverwhere to a yellow color, I am left looking at DDL, Dyslexicon, and Quin. Of the three, I feel like Dyslexicon or Quin could be the final baddie. Dyslexicon disappeared sometime during Night 1, not to be seen again for ages. Dom was absent until Quin took over mid-game, a-la Golden the Coward 2.0 in Economics Mafia.

I do not understand the relevance of either of these.

#1256

DFaraday wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:53 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:41 pm If we're thinking it's a missed nightkill, Tink and Dizzy come to mind first. Tink's been gone since Night 1, and Dizzy never posted during the night. I think everyone else did, though I'll verify that.
We've been getting kills every night up until now though. I guess Tink could have been sending kills up to this point, but it doesn't seem likely to me.

DF leaves Dizzy out of this post, but it also reinforces the idea that the missed night kill on Night 5 wasn't actually a miss. Since he was here. Yeah.

#1257

I'm expressing surprise at the notion that we may all actually vote finally. This game has been nightmare.

Also, Golden the Coward

subbed into Economics and hit the ground running. His tenacity to read and understand made him seem good when we were trying to find the last baddie- him. Hitting a game mid-stream is great cover for a baddie because it takes forever to build up the kind of content required for people to form opinions about you. You also get the benefit of the doubt because you have to catch up on a deeper level. In other words, you may have earned a seat on the back burner as a baddie. By the time I caught on to Golden the Coward, we had maybe 10 minutes left to vote and I had posted in pics and memes all game, so I got lynched at Lylo and the baddies won.

#1258

Golden the Coward

Holy shit that settles it.

*votes Quin*

(justkddnnp)

#1259

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:30 pm I'm expressing surprise at the notion that we may all actually vote finally. This game has been nightmare.

Also, Golden the Coward subbed into Economics and hit the ground running. His tenacity to read and understand made him seem good when we were trying to find the last baddie- him. Hitting a game mid-stream is great cover for a baddie because it takes forever to build up the kind of content required for people to form opinions about you. You also get the benefit of the doubt because you have to catch up on a deeper level. In other words, you may have earned a seat on the back burner as a baddie. By the time I caught on to Golden the Coward, we had maybe 10 minutes left to vote and I had posted in pics and memes all game, so I got lynched at Lylo and the baddies won.

To be fair my plan was to lynch you, then Golden (though I had a tinfoil suspicion on Jay I was struggling to fight)

But civs decided to lynch sanmateo, then you. And while I was reading sanmateo as civ and would have tried to protect him, Golden the Coward killed me in the previous night.

#1260

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:30 pm I'm expressing surprise at the notion that we may all actually vote finally. This game has been nightmare.

Also, Golden the Coward subbed into Economics and hit the ground running. His tenacity to read and understand made him seem good when we were trying to find the last baddie- him. Hitting a game mid-stream is great cover for a baddie because it takes forever to build up the kind of content required for people to form opinions about you. You also get the benefit of the doubt because you have to catch up on a deeper level. In other words, you may have earned a seat on the back burner as a baddie. By the time I caught on to Golden the Coward, we had maybe 10 minutes left to vote and I had posted in pics and memes all game, so I got lynched at Lylo and the baddies won.

I meant your comments on me and Dizzy, not the surprise part. I get what you were trying to say now though.

as for this post

um

no!

#1261

I got a few civvies lynched in that game.

#1262

I need to save myself and Never doesn't seem like shes going anywhere.

But I think Gman is not mafia (maybe Mewtwo tho)

But following Dizzy's unexplained vote on Quin makes me feel dead inside.

What do I do

#1263

I know what you mean. The tinfoil-loving conspiracy theorist in me is tempted to vote Quin but Dyslexicon pulling a drive-by on him is odd. Heck, Dyslexicon voting at all is kind of odd. Know what I mean?

We could always vote for Dyslexicon. If we're wrong, at least we'll have talkers left. That doesn't help with Neverwhere though. She talks, just not much. With it being 5v1v1, we could be at risk of Day 9 being the final day. Any way you slice it, being wrong today still leaves a lot of questions for tomorrow.

#1264

Sounds like a plan.

*votes dizzy*

Night.

#1265

Kay, I didn't get to do what I wanted and have been busy.

I will vote to save DDL. It doesn't make sense for him to be bad based on his actions during the DF lynch.

Assuming he was his teammate, I don't think he would have bussed on DF's second death. I see no incentive to as it was a tie.

#1266

The only thing that gives me hesitation is that DDL was barely present for yesterdays events. I can only see a bus scenario if DDL was planning on bussing then swapping near EoD, and just didnt make it.

Regardless Dizzy's a good choice. I think we will have more clarity once they are gone.

#1267

I think Dyslexicon might be the least bad choice of the bunch. Even if we're wrong, the game isn't over and the last baddie can't keep Dyslexicon around as a potentially missing vote for the next day. That way the baddie has to win against nothing but players who have been present all game long. Clearing the non-participant smokescreen will even the playing field and make it a battle of wits.

#1268

I won't be awake for the lynch post. I'm going to vote for Dyslexicon. Quin may want to move his vote unless he's open to Dyslexicon coming back to tie it up.

#1269

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:16 pm I won't be awake for the lynch post. I'm going to vote for Dyslexicon. Quin may want to move his vote unless he's open to Dyslexicon coming back to tie it up.

don't tell me what to do, squid

i did tho

#1270

Tink wants you to find the Fink.

Poll ended at Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:10 pmPlease note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

boo
0
No votes

Voters: None

Dragon D. Luffy
2
15%

Voters: Neverwhere, boo

Dyslexicon
4
31%

Voters: G-Man, Quin, DrWilgy, Dragon D. Luffy

DrWilgy
0
No votes

Voters: None

G-Man
0
No votes

Voters: None

Neverwhere
0
No votes

Voters: None

Quin
1
8%

Voters: Dyslexicon

Serena (The Hosts, the Non, the Dead)
6
46%

Voters: Golden, Marmot, sprityo, Jackofhearts2005, Epignosis, Fredwood

Total votes: 13

#1271

Dyslexicon is unable to battle!

Dyslexicon was Pidgeotto!

Rawr!

It is now Night 8.

#1272

Yup. Of course he was.

#1273

I guess it was worth a shot. Back to the drawing board.

#1274

I see we were a talkative bunch today.

If I were to rank everyone from civvie to baddie, it looks more or less like this:

G-Man
Boo & DrWilgy
Neverwhere
DDL & Quin

Anyone else want to make a rainbow?

#1275

G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:21 pm I see we were a talkative bunch today.

If I were to rank everyone from civvie to baddie, it looks more or less like this:

G-Man
Boo & DrWilgy
Neverwhere
DDL & Quin

Anyone else want to make a rainbow?

Why do you suspect DDL? You mention him in your PoE a lot but your only real reference to it is that he was omitted from sprityo's list. Is there anything else?

#1276

DDL
Boo
Wilgy
Gman
Quin
Neverwhere

That is the Inkay/Malamar rainbow list. The Mewtwo rainbow list is a work in progress.

#1277

With one player left hiding, what do rainbows do for us?

been busy today. Sorry for my absence.

#1278

No one has been knocked out!

It is now Day 9.

#1279

i like this. If the baddie was blocked, someone knows who they are. If the baddie abstained or failed to send in the kill, they just gave us an extra day to hunt them down.

#1280

Can't revote epi. I checked the results but now I'm locked out.

#1281

I can't either.

#1282

Guys, are you still sending evolution votes?

I was wondering if we could try to reveal who we voted for all game, and maybe try to use that to analyse each other.

Just an idea.

#1283

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:00 am i like this. If the baddie was blocked, someone knows who they are. If the baddie abstained or failed to send in the kill, they just gave us an extra day to hunt them down.

They didn't. Now we get to endgame with four players instead of three, and it will be decided by RNG.

Unless we get another kill miss.

#1284

Hey Neverwhere (and apparently Boo) I get that you want to lynch me but will you at least talk to others about the game and discuss your reads while at that?

This "I shall do nothing until DDL is dead" is huring the civs more than anything.

We need to talk as much as we can.

#1285

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:26 am Guys, are you still sending evolution votes?

I was wondering if we could try to reveal who we voted for all game, and maybe try to use that to analyse each other.

Just an idea.

I like this idea, I'll go flip through my pm's and let you know later.

As for now. It is time for work.

#1286

I evo voted for the following:

D0: Timmer
N1: Dom
N2: Boo
N3: Dom
N4: Boo
N5: Tink
N6: Neverwhere
N7: Tink
N8: [Abstained]

I threw votes at Dom back when he was AWOL because it seemed safe to vote for a non-player rather than risk voting for an active baddie by accident. Then Quin replaced Dom on Day 4, which ended that plan. I abstained last night just to be safe. There's a chance that everyone here has evolved already anyway but I abstained in case the last baddie still needed one more vote.

#1287

I tried to fix the poll. How weird is this?

Joy (The Hosts, the Non, the Dead)
5
83%

Voters: Jackofhearts2005Jackofhearts2005Jackofhearts2005Jackofhearts2005, Epignosis

It should work now.

#1288

I gave the idea but Ill also have to wait till I get home to post my votes.

#1289

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:46 am I tried to fix the poll. How weird is this?

Joy (The Hosts, the Non, the Dead)
5
83%

Voters: Jackofhearts2005Jackofhearts2005Jackofhearts2005Jackofhearts2005, Epignosis

It should work now.

Well, I am a Trump supporter, so...

/sarcasm

#1290

I just sat through a three-hour demo for a potential accounting system upgrade. My brain is fried. I will come back in a few hours when I've calmed down from how chaotic work may become if we pull the trigger on this.

#1291

I'm sure my list will help us in finding this last baddie

Let's compare.
d0 - Missed
n1 - JoH
n2 - LC
n3 - Mac
n4 - G-Man
n5 - Mac
n6 - Quin
n7 - DDL
n8 - Missed

#1292

d0: Dizzy
n1: Boo
n2: Wilgy
n3: Gman
n4: Nutella
n5: Gman
n6: Boo
n7: Dizzy
n8: Gman

#1293

Not sure what to gather from those, tbh.

I know I want to lynch either Quin or Never tho.

I think I'll ISO them. Brb.

#1294

Why'd you give dizzy a point n7 ddl?

#1295

I didn't want to repeat previous votes and she was Next Best Thing.

Also I was under the impression I had given more votes to Wilgy.

#1296

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:27 am I evo voted for the following:

D0: Timmer
N1: Dom
N2: Boo
N3: Dom
N4: Boo
N5: Tink
N6: Neverwhere
N7: Tink
N8: [Abstained]

I threw votes at Dom back when he was AWOL because it seemed safe to vote for a non-player rather than risk voting for an active baddie by accident. Then Quin replaced Dom on Day 4, which ended that plan. I abstained last night just to be safe. There's a chance that everyone here has evolved already anyway but I abstained in case the last baddie still needed one more vote.

Why not just abstain all those other nights?

#1297

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:45 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:27 am I evo voted for the following:

D0: Timmer
N1: Dom
N2: Boo
N3: Dom
N4: Boo
N5: Tink
N6: Neverwhere
N7: Tink
N8: [Abstained]

I threw votes at Dom back when he was AWOL because it seemed safe to vote for a non-player rather than risk voting for an active baddie by accident. Then Quin replaced Dom on Day 4, which ended that plan. I abstained last night just to be safe. There's a chance that everyone here has evolved already anyway but I abstained in case the last baddie still needed one more vote.
Why not just abstain all those other nights?

It would have been boring that way. I voted where I saw something I liked, minus the Dom votes.

#1298

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:14 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:45 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:27 am I evo voted for the following:

D0: Timmer
N1: Dom
N2: Boo
N3: Dom
N4: Boo
N5: Tink
N6: Neverwhere
N7: Tink
N8: [Abstained]

I threw votes at Dom back when he was AWOL because it seemed safe to vote for a non-player rather than risk voting for an active baddie by accident. Then Quin replaced Dom on Day 4, which ended that plan. I abstained last night just to be safe. There's a chance that everyone here has evolved already anyway but I abstained in case the last baddie still needed one more vote.
Why not just abstain all those other nights?
It would have been boring that way. I voted where I saw something I liked, minus the Dom votes.

I'm talking about the Dom votes. If you're bad, you gave points to a civilian who you knew wasn't going to be around. If you're town, you took a 50 50 shot on an unreadable player. I'd say you were better off not risking it and not giving points at all.

#1299

If the mafia team were strictly alternating their evolution points between them, sprityo should have evolved into Persian before the time he was lynched (since we gave points Night 0, Night 1 and Night 2). He hadn't, therefore they didn't.

#1300

It's also totally impossible that Dom was bad and wasn't around to send evo points, screwing with that whole process, by the way. Pinky promise.

Lugia: Who be a killah?