Pokemon Mafia [ENDGAME]

#1351

I might need to stop playing mafia after this game. My performance has been nothing short of embarrassing.

RIP Quin.

Both DDL and Boo recently referred to the civvies in ways that don't include them. Why?

#1352

I have been bad at mafia since I started and I'm still playing. Please don't stop because of that.

#1353

I wasn't being serious. Being this lousy as a civ just eats at me.

#1354

As for your question, I'm using the same person as the post I replied to.

#1355

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:11 am As for your question, I'm using the same person as the post I replied to.

I was actually referring to this post from you:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:18 pm Seriously though.

If Boo and Never are hellbent on voting only for me until I'm dead.

Then the civs are doomed.

Because all mafia has to do is spare me and one of Boo/Never (or both), and the last day is sealed.

Can you guys at least try to consider other options? Like, Never didn't even post today. She just voted for me silently. That isn't good civvie play in any universe.

Maybe I just never notice it if/when I do it, but it just seems odd. Clearly, my paranoia is in full gear.

#1356

#1357

Neverwhere is unable to battle!

Neverwhere was Snover.

It is now Day 10.

#1358

Pokeman Trainers? More like Pokemon maimers.

Poll ended at Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:11 pmPlease note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

boo
0
No votes

Voters: None

Dragon D. Luffy
3
21%

Voters: Neverwhere, Quin, boo

DrWilgy
0
No votes

Voters: None

G-Man
0
No votes

Voters: None

Neverwhere
0
No votes

Voters: None

Quin
3
21%

Voters: DrWilgy, Dragon D. Luffy, G-Man

Joy (The Hosts, the Non, the Dead)
8
57%

Voters: speedchuck, Marmot, Jackofhearts2005, Made, sprityo, nutella, JaggedJimmyJay, Epignosis

Total votes: 14

#1359

Intriguing. I'd have figured that Boo would be killed if DDL is the last baddie. Perhaps it's an attempt to make us doubt Boo as a civvie. Regardless, this kill gets rid of a likely DDL vote, which might net another split vote.

Is it DDL trying to give himself a sporting chance?

Or could it be Boo trying to make himself look even more civ via wifom (why kill someone who can help you win?)?

Or is it Wilgy trying to orchestrate a guaranteed mislynch between me and DDL?

Oh the humanity. Oh the tinfoil!

#1360

I see Quin is still listed on the poll. Mistake, mechanics, or mind-screw?

#1361

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:03 am I see Quin is still listed on the poll. Mistake, mechanics, or mind-screw?

vote me 4 rezz

#1362

Damn. I wish I'd had time to play yesterday. Sorry guys, I suck as civ.

#1363

Huh... Well, well played whoever you are, I was certain neverwhere was the last.

#1364

I'm going to give wilgy a vote and see where that takes us.

#1365

Of course two out of my three civ reads are bad.

I'm gonna follow Boo. I still think he is a civ, and I still think Gman is not-mafia. Hopefully at least this one read is right and Mewtwo fails to kill tonight.

Votes Wilgy.

#1366

Also there is a high chance I will miss the end of the phase. It will depend on 3g signal and phone batteries. We'll see. So Im voting now just to be safe.

#1367

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:00 am Intriguing. I'd have figured that Boo would be killed if DDL is the last baddie. Perhaps it's an attempt to make us doubt Boo as a civvie. Regardless, this kill gets rid of a likely DDL vote, which might net another split vote.

Is it DDL trying to give himself a sporting chance?

Or could it be Boo trying to make himself look even more civ via wifom (why kill someone who can help you win?)?

Or is it Wilgy trying to orchestrate a guaranteed mislynch between me and DDL?

Oh the humanity. Oh the tinfoil!

Shut up Mewtwo.

#1368

boo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:38 am Huh... Well, well played whoever you are, I was certain neverwhere was the last.

When did you become sure of that? And how?

#1369

(I mean I dont know for sure G is mewtwo but I wanted to say that)

#1370

I'm leaving for vacation after work and Boo's turnaround on Wilgy/Dragon has my brain all higgledy-piggledy. Fantastic.

#1371

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:15 am
boo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:38 am Huh... Well, well played whoever you are, I was certain neverwhere was the last.
When did you become sure of that? And how?

When she said she was silenced and forced to vote when as far as I can tell that hadnt happened up until this point. I thought she was lying.

#1372

I guess it is a one-shot. Silencing a player isnnt very powerful, but forcing them to make a vote is.

#1373

In looking back, Dyslexicon voted without posting the day before Neverwhere did. Coincidence? I think not.

Boo, what makes you suspect Wilgy now after being on DDL's case for so long?

#1374

Good morning. Why do I have two votes?

#1375

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:36 am Good morning. Why do I have two votes?

I'm hoping to find that out as well. DDL's vote makes sense, as he believes Boo and I are civ. Boo's vote eludes me. My vote needs to come by 4:30 because the beach is calling.

#1376

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:29 am In looking back, Dyslexicon voted without posting the day before Neverwhere did. Coincidence? I think not.

Boo, what makes you suspect Wilgy now after being on DDL's case for so long?

Neverwhere flipping civ isn't at all what I expected, so I'm changing gears.

I honestly have no idea which of you is bad at this point. So, honestly, I'm going with wilgy because I think it's the best way I can help myself, but there's just as good a chance it ruins things for me. Although the odds are lousy no matter what I do, so... Meh. It's been a fun game, I just played the early part poorly. I kept expecting the NK strategy to change, and it really burned me that until neverwhere, it stayed the same.

#1377

Basically comes down to you now gman. I can't imagine ddl is going to move his vote, and I'm not going to unless he does. My best bet is to vote with him, and you, if possible.

Or you and wilgy can vote for him or me together, and force a tie and see what happens. For what it's worth, forcing the tie on me would help no one, whereas doing it on ddl might work out for you. I dunno. You might as well flip a coin to decide at this point, unless you know more than you have let on.

#1378

So we are in a 2 v 1 v 1. DDL jumped on Boo's vote immediately (or at least before I woke up). The only explanation for this is that DDL either has to be 3rd party or Mafia. I don't think DDL is my teammate, If he is then his vote was very unwise.

@G-Man, regarding the perspective observation you made. I agree with you, throughout this game I have seen Boo amd DDL refer to civs as if they weren't one. The one that stood out the strongest was boo saying that "civs deserve to lose."

@Boo why are you still alive?

#1379

I get it, you don't care who gets lynched today do you boo?

#1380

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:36 am Good morning. Why do I have two votes?

Someone has to be bad and all my suspects are dead.

Boo can't be bad after the DF lynch.

Gman has looked good in the sprit lynch plus there is the evolution slip.

Process of elimination.

#1381

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:39 am I get it, you don't care who gets lynched today do you boo?

Pretty much. It's unlikely to help me however it goes, you're just slightly ahead on the odds playing out for me, I think.

#1382

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:50 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:36 am Good morning. Why do I have two votes?
I'm hoping to find that out as well. DDL's vote makes sense, as he believes Boo and I are civ. Boo's vote eludes me. My vote needs to come by 4:30 because the beach is calling.

I believe Boo is a civ and you are the indie.

#1383

Wait did boo just hint mewtwo.

I need to read this first

#1384

Wilgy who did you vote for last night?

#1385

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:10 am Wait did boo just hint mewtwo.

I need to read this first

Nah, I'm just a masochist in screw it all mode. It's pure chance at this point, I just don't feel the need to overthink this any more. It just hasn't worked all game.

#1386

You keep referring to your side with "I" instead of "we"

When there is another civ (me)

#1387

Or not you. I dunno who it is.

#1388

Point is, there is someone else.

#1389

I'm desperate now. I just googled the four remaining pokemon left to see if there's anything useful there. DDL, you may need to steer me straight on this.

TORCHIC *fire* {ground, water, rock}
COMBUSKEN *fire, fighting* {psychic, flying, ground, water}
BLAZIKEN *fire, fighting* {psychic, flying, ground, water}

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IGGLYBUFF *normal, fairy* {poison, steel}
JIGGLYPUFF *normal, fairy* {poison, steel}
WIGGLYTUFF *normal, fairy* {poison, steel}

-----------------------

MEWTWO *psychic* {dark, bug, ghost}

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INKAY *psychic, dark* {fairy, bug}
MALAMAR *psychic, dark* {fairy, bug}

So basically, Torchic might not be weak to anyone left but Combusken and Blaziken are weak to both Mewtwo and Inkay/Malamar (both psychic). Iggly/Jiggly/Wiggly isn't weak to anyone. Mewtwo is weak to Inkay/Malamar (psychic). Inkay/Malamar is weak to Iggly/Jiggly/Wiggly (fairy).

But... we don't know if/how this factors into our game, so did I just waste my time?

#1390

#1391

Also you are just considering the defensive side. The table is assymetrical. Like, fighting is weak to psychic and psychic resists fighting. But while normal is weak to fighting, fighting does not resist normal.

I seriously doubt Epi implemented every aspect of it tho, assuming he did implement it at all.

#1392

Actually sorry, you are consedering every side, just not the resistances. Ignore the first sentece of the post above.

#1393

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:04 pm Actually sorry, you are consedering every side, just not the resistances. Ignore the first sentece of the post above.

If what I wrote makes sense to you, then that's awesome. I don't understand it one bit.

#1394

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:11 am Wilgy who did you vote for last night?

I've stopped submitting evo points altogether.

@DDL, why was G-man 3rd party in your head?

#1395

I'd like everyone's thoughts on e/o.

Boo is 3rd party. I've concluded that.

G-Man - Looked too during Sprityo lynch, didn't look good at any point following that. It has taken me awhile, but agreeing with observations does not indicate him being my teammate. The "black whole" evo point confusion gives me hesitation. Would G-man discuss such matters in BTSC then accidentally blurt in thread while confused?

DDL - I was very much suspicious of you until the DF lynch. You being under suspicion from me also may have been your insensitive to bus. You piggybacking Boo's vote is very unsettling as I'm 100% sure he's not your teammate if you have one.

#1396

I'm voting DDL at the moment. Let's see what happens.

#1397

I hate being the last one to vote in such crucial situations.

Boo still gets a pass from me for the DFaraday lynch. If he's mafia, he is a conniving cut-throat and he engaged in one of the hardest busses I've ever seen to gain strategic advantage. If he's MewBoo, as you suggest, then I don't know what comes next.

DDL still pings me for a lot of little reasons. I have to try to piece them back together to see if they make sense.

As for you, my dear Wilgy, I've forgotten what moved you from my sus list. Yesterday I was eyeing DDL and Quin. I need to go back and find what cleared you for me and revisit that line of thought.

I won't be voting for Boo and I can't vote for myself, so I need to figure you two out. In the next three-ish hours. During a crazy busy work day. While also distracted by thoughts of my approaching vacation. Tough stuff.

#1398

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:38 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:11 am Wilgy who did you vote for last night?
I've stopped submitting evo points altogether.

@DDL, why was G-man 3rd party in your head?

There is a post way back where Gman shows is not aware of the possibility of a pokemon needing to evolve first in order to have abilities. I felt it wasnt something mafia would try to fake. Too specific.

When I called him out, he implied he was a normal type pokemon and that he thought that applied to normals. So he either telling the truth, or he is Mewtwo lying.

#1399

And Im still reading Boo as civ, so Gman is indie by elimination.

#1400

boo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:57 pmI think it no longer matters. The civs just lost. Mostly because at this point, they deserve to, imo.

Boo is not civilian, and based on his actions toward DF I think he's a pro-town mewboo. If he is pro-town though, his vote right now is wrong.

Lugia: Who be a killah?