Pokemon Mafia [ENDGAME]

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1401

mmmm malamar you say?

#1402

#1403

Oops, I mean:

#1404

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:17 pm
boo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:57 pmI think it no longer matters. The civs just lost. Mostly because at this point, they deserve to, imo.
Boo is not civilian, and based on his actions toward DF I think he's a pro-town mewboo. If he is pro-town though, his vote right now is wrong.

I am still considering that possibility. But in either scenario, you are the contrarian squid.

#1405

I just wanted to be the best
like no one ever was

#1406

I come down to the question of whether or not Sprityo was reckless enough to omit both of his teammates from his preferred lynch list.

#1407

Does it mean anything at this point

#1408

It depends. Do you want my vote?

#1409

No I mean

Just how precise do you think this piece of evidence is regarding who to vote for.

The fact you are seeing it as a 50-50 already shows it is wifom.

#1410

If Boo is mafia, then he outplayed us in stunning fashion. That leaves you and Wilgy. I'm already an hour later at the office than I had hoped. I want to be on the way to the beach. This vote aggravates me.

#1411

It all comes down to this for me. I can't help it.

G-Man's Suss List, Which Was Called Dumb By Sprityo:

Fredwood
Neverwhere
Nutella
Sprityo
Tink

Sprityo's Preferred Lynch List:

Boo
Quin/Dom
DrWilgy
Dyslexicon
Eloh
G-Man

People Sprityo Omitted From His List:

DFaraday
Dragon D. Luffy
Long Con
MacDougall

The circumstances of DFaraday's lynch made DrWilgy look pretty good. It makes no sense for both baddies to vote each other. Had DrWilgy been lynched, I doubt it would have quelled the momentum against DFaraday. You can argue that Faraday had to vote for Wilgy out of the appearance of self-preservation but what a risk to take!

DDL has tiny crumbs that make me go

He saw nothing wrong with Jack's N1 NK when I saw it as a mistake. Sure, it can be rationalized that Jack wasn't really being suspected at that point but neither were most of us. It could also be that Jack was killed because he came around and said he didn't think DDL was mafia just because of their back-and-forth. If the baddies see the dissolution of a civ-on-civ feud, it might make sense to kill part of it off. Or, baddie DDL could have killed Jack before he had the chance to take a second pass at DDL.

But would Sprityo be so reckless as to omit both of his teammates from a preferred kill list? I know I would probably hide one in my preferred list because it looks good later. But would Sprityo?

#1412

I'm not gonna beat around the bush, seeing this month of gameplay end with me being mislynched will be very disappointing.

Something that makes me feel somewhat good is that if G-Man was not my teammate he would have dropped a vote on me as well and that'd be that.

I can't tell if DDL insisting that Boo is civilian is just a matter of disagreement with me, or a forced perspective. I think Boo has outright told us he's not civilian.

Boo also being a pro-town 3rd party also means that those possible lies of DDL's that boo pointed out are genuine reads.

If G-Man is bad, you are cruel for not voting for me.

#1413

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:48 pm I'm not gonna beat around the bush, seeing this month of gameplay end with me being mislynched will be very disappointing.

Something that makes me feel somewhat good is that if G-Man was not my teammate he would have dropped a vote on me as well and that'd be that.

I can't tell if DDL insisting that Boo is civilian is just a matter of disagreement with me, or a forced perspective. I think Boo has outright told us he's not civilian.

Boo also being a pro-town 3rd party also means that those possible lies of DDL's that boo pointed out are genuine reads.

If G-Man is bad, you are cruel for not voting for me.

If I was bad, I would have voted for you hours ago and washed my hands of it.

#1414

I am not known to be a good civvie player most of the time. Unless I have an info-gathering role, my record isn't so hot. My brain is telling me that DDL makes sense as the baddie. Those crumbs don't add up to the whole cookie missing from the cookie jar but my spreadsheet, my brain, my gut, and my heart are telling me that he is the right choice for today. That forces a tie. Boo is going to have to make a choice now.

If I am wrong, well done to the baddie and my apologies to the rest of you.

I'm heading to the beach. I may not check this until tomorrow. I hope we win. Until then, everybody polka-mon!

#1415

Wilgy.

You didnt answer my question.

Who did you vote for last night

#1416

Though at this point your answer wont change my vote since of course Im having to save myself for the fourth consecutive time.

#1417

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:38 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:11 am Wilgy who did you vote for last night?
I've stopped submitting evo points altogether.

@DDL, why was G-man 3rd party in your head?

#1418

Oh sorry I missed it.

#1419

This kinda stinks. I'm uncomfortable that the game is potentially on a coin flip if Gman is my teammate.

DDL, does Fighting doesn't super effectively hit Malamar does it?

#1420

Neutral hit. Psychic resists fighting.

#1421

Sorry if you are civ Wilgy but sometimes I have to turn down the spider senses and trust logic.

If one of the other two managed to outsmart logic then its ggwp.

#1422

I am becoming very worried, more so because I'm at the theatre and I need to turn off my phone soon.

What logic are you using to rationalize that G-Man is your teammate?

Mine is DDL's vote is not indicative of him being my teammate, while G-Man's was.

My thoughts in regards to DDL being my teammate is that G-Man pushed hard for my lynch during the Faraday lynch. If this is between 2 civs I'm going to be pissed.

#1423

I'm paranoid as fuck and I'm voting G-Man.
>His scrambling up evolution could have been a BTSC caused event.
>He pushed for me extremely hard when DF was up to die.
>His saving vote before leaving was probably a safety because he won't be here.

#1424

I'm going back to rationality and voting DDL.
>His DF vote has decent chance to be a bus
>His piggyback vote was too easy
>Consistently telling things that I can only see as half truth
>There's 0 percent chance for civ win if I'm lynched

Shows starting now. Good luck civs. DDL, if your my teammate im hilding this against you

#1425

Give me the colors, Epi.

#1426

oh boy

#1427

Damn I woke up excited for results.

#1428

The foe's EPIGNOSIS fell asleep!

#1429

This is the first time I have ever determined ties randomly. I won't be doing it again (personal preference).

Odd numbers are a vote for Dragon D. Luffy.
Even numbers are a vote for DrWilgy.

Spoiler: show

#1430

Yesssssssss

#1431

Dunno if I should feel sad for losing or happy for being right.

I feel like I improved a lot in this game compared to previous ones.

Then again I was wrong about Gman and Boo. Though I would have tracked them again in the next night just to be sure.

#1432

Thanks for the game, Epi and Simon!

#1433

I won't be available for the next several hours. We have family pictures this morning in the July heat (

) and then we're hosting Simon's Pokemon birthday party this afternoon. I even made sushi! Simon didn't flake out by the way- the phases were ending past his bedtime (and past mine, apparently).

#1434

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:02 am Dunno if I should feel sad for losing or happy for being right.

I feel like I improved a lot in this game compared to previous ones.

Then again I was wrong about Gman and Boo. Though I would have tracked them again in the next night just to be sure.

Last night was pivotal.

You tracked Wilgy (both Night action and evolution vote).

But G-Man targeted you with Wigglytuff's power (sleep + charm, which made his target fall asleep AND have to vote a certain way). He was going to make you vote Neverwhere and silence you for Day 9.

But Wilgy blocked G-Man, thus you were able to post. I really thought Wilgy was doomed.

Wild nights.

#1435

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:07 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:02 am Dunno if I should feel sad for losing or happy for being right.

I feel like I improved a lot in this game compared to previous ones.

Then again I was wrong about Gman and Boo. Though I would have tracked them again in the next night just to be sure.
Last night was pivotal.

You tracked Wilgy (both Night action and evolution vote).

But G-Man targeted you with Wigglytuff's power (sleep + charm, which made his target fall asleep AND have to vote a certain way). He was going to make you vote Neverwhere and silence you for Day 9.

But Wilgy blocked G-Man, thus you were able to post. I really thought Wilgy was doomed.

Wild nights.

I love role madness.

#1436

Post the roles when you can.

Specially Mewtwo. What was his wincon?

#1437

Quin looked bad. He looked bad for reasons that weren't even noticed, like saying Tony voters (DF) were likely town and spending time asking dead people questions without catching up fully. I get the mislynch there. Had him as mafia suspect uno w/Doc as suspect dos.

Not sure why anyone thought DDL or GMan was bad. Placed them at 100% and 90% town, respectively.

When DDL lynched DF, that did not look like a bus and it wasn't. When DF went all in on lynching Doc after he was already screwed....that whole bit should have been seen as WIFOM, not reason to think Wilgy was town.

Oh, town. Ball dropped.

Curious to see the Mewtwo role.

#1438

Pokémon Day 5 Rainbow (post Fred mislynch)

*Green
GMan (really seems to be trying)
Boo (not w/w with Sprit, trying)
Mac (I know this is partially just Mac but lead a lynch on Fred after MIA 3 days and then says Fred was obvious town. Bussed Sprityo? Or town? I like him going after all my suspects....including Fred, who was off his game)
Tink (probably not w/w with Sprit, likely copped good by Eloh)

*Yellow
Dizzy (probably not w/w with Sprit, good Day 1, MIA)
Never (easy fall guy, not impressed but no pings, really)

*Orange
Wilgy (defended Fred? possible w/w with DDL for shooting shit instead of hunting, where is super doc? but then he'll say something helpful. Going through the motions? Tried to lynch Dom over Sprit. Not w/w with Quin)
Quin (rainbow list is all backwards, reading the thread without checking autopsies i.e. wasting his breath, never quite caught up, townies voting for Tony theory smells)

*Red
DF (disagree with most of what he says, find his votes nonsensical, ping on Day 5 I can't remember)
DDL (latches onto weak excuses to lynch townies like GMan, Boo, Tink. Vocal against Fred. Early coordination inconsistency. People I suspect keep town reading him without saying why. Posts lots of fluff about real Pokémon, which isn't helpful in the slightest. Possible w/w with Wilgy)

Day 8 (after DF and Tink die)

Green
DDL - Didn't bus DF.
GMan - Despite shade on him, he's hunting for real. Jack NK analysis is spot on. Been pointing at DF and all remaining suspects with that.
Boo***** - Didn't bus DF. DDL attack is nonsense. My number one pick for the indy.

Yellow
Wilgy* - Spurts of good behavior. DF trying to lynch him gives WIFOM cred/anticred. Gtth good, especially considering 1 baddie remaining possible indy cause I've seen townier town Wilgy

Orange
Never - Best case scenario, has in fact forgotten how to be a townie.
Dizzy* - Has not tried one bit in 7 days. Feels like ME Diz, not Phenom Diz. Possible indy.

Red
Quin/Dom - The "Tony voters are town" bullshit was in fact a defense of DF. Fits the "nobody to argue with Sprityo over killing dangerous Jack N1" theory cause Dom was inactive.

After the Quin/Never/Diz deaths, rainbow would have been the same w/Doc on bottom.

@ ToD:
Meh on Tony
N/A on Jack
Wrong on Timmer
Right on Speed
Meh on Sprityo
Right on LC
Right on Eloh
Right/wavering on Nutella
Wrong/wavering on Fred
Right/wavering on DF
Right on Tink
Right on Mac
Right on Dizzy, taking known numbers of 1 scum remaining into account. Wrong on Dizzy based upon pure color read.
Wrong on Quin
Wrong on Never
Right on DDL
Right on GMan
Right on Boo
Right on Wilgy

12 good reads and 4 bad reads is an alright performance, esp considering I couldn't talk all game.

#1439

Shame someone knew to kill you right off the back am I right?

#1440

I needed three fully evolved people to be lynched while I was alive.

#1441

I did suspect Wilgy a good bit at one point, can't remember why I didn't go harder on a lynch.

I suck as civ.

In response to you Jackofhearts, the only games I've played in full (two) I have played as mafia and have won, so yeah, I really don't know how to be town apparently.

#1442

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:53 am Shame someone knew to kill you right off the back am I right?

That would be my doing

#1443

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:37 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:53 am Shame someone knew to kill you right off the back am I right?
That would be my doing

At least I now know that if JoH dies early, you gotta lynch sprityo immediately.

#1444

This is a false fallacy. I already die before day 4 enough as it is

#1445

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:53 am Shame someone knew to kill you right off the back am I right?

"Unforced error."

#1446

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:33 am I did suspect Wilgy a good bit at one point, can't remember why I didn't go harder on a lynch.

I suck as civ.

In response to you Jackofhearts, the only games I've played in full (two) I have played as mafia and have won, so yeah, I really don't know how to be town apparently.

How do you play when you're mafia?

Imo, mafia play is often an impression of self's townie play. So I'm curious.

#1447

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:57 am
Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:33 am I did suspect Wilgy a good bit at one point, can't remember why I didn't go harder on a lynch.

I suck as civ.

In response to you Jackofhearts, the only games I've played in full (two) I have played as mafia and have won, so yeah, I really don't know how to be town apparently.
How do you play when you're mafia?

Imo, mafia play is often an impression of self's townie play. So I'm curious.

I'm not even sure of my style honestly, it's been 2 plus years since I played a game. I've been told I'm very hard to pin. I'm more involved than I was this game, I think. I'm better at deflecting or steering that I am at actually hunting out mafia, that's for sure. I guess that will come with practice.

Hopefully I can play with you guys for another game.

Well done to mafia, anyway.

#1448

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:03 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:57 am
Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:33 am I did suspect Wilgy a good bit at one point, can't remember why I didn't go harder on a lynch.

I suck as civ.

In response to you Jackofhearts, the only games I've played in full (two) I have played as mafia and have won, so yeah, I really don't know how to be town apparently.
How do you play when you're mafia?

Imo, mafia play is often an impression of self's townie play. So I'm curious.
I'm not even sure of my style honestly, it's been 2 plus years since I played a game. I've been told I'm very hard to pin. I'm more involved than I was this game, I think. I'm better at deflecting or steering that I am at actually hunting out mafia, that's for sure. I guess that will come with practice.

Hopefully I can play with you guys for another game.

Well done to mafia, anyway.

You absolutely should.

And yes, the mafia certainly played a strong game and earned the win.

#1449

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:09 am
Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:03 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:57 am
Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:33 am I did suspect Wilgy a good bit at one point, can't remember why I didn't go harder on a lynch.

I suck as civ.

In response to you Jackofhearts, the only games I've played in full (two) I have played as mafia and have won, so yeah, I really don't know how to be town apparently.
How do you play when you're mafia?

Imo, mafia play is often an impression of self's townie play. So I'm curious.
I'm not even sure of my style honestly, it's been 2 plus years since I played a game. I've been told I'm very hard to pin. I'm more involved than I was this game, I think. I'm better at deflecting or steering that I am at actually hunting out mafia, that's for sure. I guess that will come with practice.

Hopefully I can play with you guys for another game.

Well done to mafia, anyway.
You absolutely should.

And yes, the mafia certainly played a strong game and earned the win.

Though you wouldn't know it from the way everyone kept saying how stupid our kill choices were.

#1450

Also, great job team!

Lugia: Who be a killah?