Easter Mafia [GAME OVER]

[ColinIsCool]

What? Why do people think I’m claiming Keith?

[Marmot]

What? Why do people think I’m claiming Keith?

If I wasn't the real Keith, it would make sense for the real Keith to doubt me.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Pretty sure that is an import part of your role, and therefore legal to spew.

I hope that no one else claims (unless they are counter-claiming a power role), because I fear that this game might break if they do.

I could ask for clarification. It's probably doable without. Game breaking is not fun, but tempting. : p

I've been consciously avoiding that the whole game for fear of breaking things. I think outright character claiming can break it. "Faction" claiming might be alright (Christian/dentist/both).

[mention]G-Man[/mention], could you please make a ruling in this regard?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What? Why do people think I’m claiming Keith?

I don't think you're claiming it. I think you should though if that's who you are. Even if you don't want to be outed, the ship has sailed to anyone paying a tiny amount of attention. There's no other reason for you to be so opposed to Marmot's claim.

[G-Man]

In this situation, I fear that even faction claiming could lead to breaking the game and I just put my popcorn in the microwave. Given the lopsided balance of death between Christians and dentists up to this point, the following revision has been made to the rules:

7) Info-dumping and/or power-role-claiming is legal. Do so at your own peril. Faction claiming for the purposes of POE is prohibited.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Thanks G-Man. I think that's fair.

[lapluie]

What? Why do people think I’m claiming Keith?

Like marmot said, why else would you call bs on marmot if youre not Keith himself, if you are then thatd be more believable

[lapluie]

[mention]ColinIsCool[/mention] you have 5 votes if I were you I'd tell the truth

[Scotty]

Sorry y’all, I’m 6+ pages behind today, but I see Colin has votes which is cool (see what I did there )

[Scotty]

sorry all i'd do more but suddenly sick as a sig dog who still has a mountain of work to do

if someone could link me to some stuff about colin i'd appreciate it

Heres an initial case

A lot of my suspicion stems from that and his response that that last look at choutas wasnt defending, when I see it clearly as such. The rest of my suspicion of him is semantics and that he is playing a safe game.

JJJ has his own beef with him tho

I think your argument, full stop, is semantics. That, and the worst case of tunnel vision I've seen since I dogged somebody through half a game in Fallout Mafia on RYM. I was wrong then, and you're wrong now.

Okay, well i could be wrong, sure. I’ll own up to that if the time comes, but your tone is just nagging me as bystander material, like you’re at a polo match with some pecan-encrusted kettle corn kernels. And looking at JjJ’s conclusion, it seems to mirror what I’m seeing- you have a defense of many, but an offense of few. Plus, MP was dogging you before he died.
I dunno dude, I just can’t unsee some stuff. Like The Wicker Man. What the FUCK was that movie?

[Scotty]

This was Mp’s Pot on D3:

Y'all should give me a four-name POE pool.

Hmmmm...

Charlie Epignosis
ColinIsCool
Elohcin
Marmot

I could swap in you for Marmot at this stage; I feel relatively similarly about you both.

I could actually narrow this and give you a 3-person one, but it might be missing a scum:

Charlie Epignosis
ColinIsCool
Elohcin

And then his last rainbow:

MP Rainbow #7 - Night 3 - PoE Style

Do NOT Lynch:
Scotty

Probably Shouldn't Lynch:
Dyslexicon
lapluie
nutella
Quin

Ehh....:
JaggedJimmyJay
Marmot

Would Lynch:
Charlienosis
ColinIsCool

It might just be confirmation bias at this point but I think MP might have been on to something. Let’s be honest- if you’re gonna kill someone that isn’t at the top of everyone’s rainbow list like this, then why not target someone who, I dunno, has claimed gladys reads? I don’t remember who all has done so, but the more I think about this kill the more i feel like MP was killed for personal reasons

"Personal reasons?"

Yeah, MP riding your ass like a bronco

[Scotty]

I thought he and Elo were scumming it up together, but I might have been tunneling a bit too hard on that. If Colin is bad, which I cirrrntly think, his vote for Marmot to save Elo is the best look yet for Marmot.

Coincidentally, colin’s defense and attempted save of Elo is also what Epi thinks casts him in golden light and flower petals. Those are my bets for teammates

I've been one of the least trusted people. My teammate is Colin, so I make him my most trusted person?

How successful are you at the plate?

I forget, are you the type of person to bus your teammate when Mafia or defend, or both? I remember catching INH defending all his teammates in GoC. That’s fresher in my mind is why I’m going there first

[Scotty]

Charlie, how much of this thread have you read?

To this point.

Had you read everything through the end of Day 3 when that phase ended?

I've read everything to this.

I misread. I think I did. I don't remember.

Did you review Elohcin's content before you voted for her and endorsed her lynch?

I didn't review anything. As I said: Intuition.

I don't think you answered my question about this.

Ugh. Explaining a vote away with a gut read is so #basic, especially for you, Epi. The civ Epi I know at least quotes something and snarks at it. For Elo it was something like “swing and a miss” or something to that ilk.

[Scotty]

I have had you as a solid town read this whole game, Jay, but this is some major blind spotting and I am more than a little put off by the premises on which you've begun this exercise. But I'll let you see it through.

One thing that should be abundantly clear to you right now is that I don't give a damn about maintaining your town read on me -- I have a hard time believing it in the first place.

I'll see where I end up when I'm finished.

If you think I'm trying to award you town points for trying, you're sadly mistaken.

-300 points for snagglepuff

[Scotty]

I'm not buying any of this "homework" JJJ is doing. It's phony. Giving reasons why everyone could be bad isn't actually doing anything. It just looks like it is. My vote stays.

Why did you vote the way you did, JJJ?

See, I felt like this in Ass Class, and every time he would pump out another, I’d feel this pang of “not gonna fall for it this time” so I’m incredibly hesitant to call it busywork like last time.

(Guilty admission: DAE often just skip to the end for a conclusion in those long ISO cases? I do, and it’s hypocritical because I make the same shit expecting the crowds to give me a standing ovation. I’m sorry JJJ )

[Scotty]

Spoiler: show

Why Quin is a mafioso

Cool, Cool cool cool.

Is there any follow-up? What did you get from asking that question?

Wouldn't you like to know?

Quin opened the game by giving nova some crap, and when nova turned it around Quin stuck his tongue out. He dished it but did not take it.

When I forced him to take it, he went full OMGUS

k so i'll admit i never saw this post

What does it mean to you?

it means he explained what he got out of the conversation and i should give up

Quin and I exchanged barbs for a while until it ended here, with Quin acknowledging that he'd missed a nova post of importance. Nonetheless, he has recently returned to his suspicion of me, specifically citing this early game spat as the reason why -- a spat which dissolved when he realized he goofed.

Or something. To be honest I haven't got a god damn clue what I'm on about anymore. Someone tell me whether I'm making a lick of sense.

Posting this to reinforce the point above. Have you recently rediscovered what you were on about?

Oh and I forgot Quin ... Quin is pretty inscrutable to me and I don't like that.

I second this actually. I also don't like that he was the one to be like "no but the kill was actually clever come on guyezzz" for more or less silly reasons, but like, I think Quin would be a player that would be low key bothered if other players called his play not smart. : p Does that make sense?

hate this. literally both parts are wrong. not even a misinterpretation. wrong.

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

What is the correct interpretation, and why does this make Dyslexicon bad?

He wifomised my night kill analysis. "Because nova made no explicit reads, I think the nova kill was a smart kill which doesn't reflect badly on anybody" got turned into "no but the kill was actually clever come on guyezzz". Fuck that.

"More or less silly reasons" is just the icing on the cake.

Quin got super cranky about this thing with Dizzy, and it looked like caught for the wrong reasons.

yea

Please share.

something wrong if there isn't?

Yes.

lapluie is good and marmot is bad.

no there isn't. fight me.

The "marmot is bad" part is of interest, because later Quin would return to declare Marmot his top civilian read. What was different at this stage, Quin?

Then we're all on the same page.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

He self-voted because being lynched was irrelevant -- he's Caerbannog.

To your last point- this is one of the biggest takeaways from Quin I got. I think that if he is bad, he’s the unlynchable role. There is no reason for him as bad to essentially sacrifice himself for the good of town if hes the other mafia member.

If he is the unlyncjable role, his activity/perpensity for getting dirty (or lack thereof) in large chunks of the game makes so much more sense

[Scotty]

I may be the most arrogant, annoying bastard on the Internet, and that means nothing about my alignment.

If I get lynched, then the civilians have scored on the wrong goal. They have rewarded the mafia for leaving me alive, and fallen for their transparent shit drooling and without freedom of will.

Colin knows I’m a civilian and gets my vote.

Do you think either of nut’s or Epi’s votes look disengenuous to you?

nutella's follows her quantum mechanics reads progression and doesn't really bother me. Epi's comes on the heels of an MP kill (after MP was pooping in my proverbial Corn Flakes frequently) and looks more opportunistic. I like his less.

I agree with the nutella look. She needs some Ritalin or something tho

[Scotty]

I felt like I was spewing pure bullshit when I tried to make cases on these people:

nutella
Quin
Scotty

They're civilian reads.

~~~~~

I struggled more than I expected to generate a case that I liked on this guy:

ColinIsCool

The case can be made, but it isn't one that fills me with inspiration. I thought it would fill me with inspiration.

~~~~~

It was surprisingly natural and plausible to make a case on:

Dyslexicon

The case does require a lot of infusion from my own interaction with Dizzy, which invites personal bias on my part. With that in mind, I would appreciate feedback.

I felt a similar degree of confidence while casing these two, though without the same element of surprise:

Charlie Blackmon
lapluie

~~~~~

I didn't have to "try" to make a case on this guy, it just happened by the laws of nature:

Marmot

This reads as if you already reading your top reads as that before doing your cases and as such makes it seem like we should just brush away those reads.

That you consistently view me as civ (and I guess a bunch of people) makes me uncomfortable. Like, I like having a little civ credit, but I feel I’m being oversold. You aren’t the only one that’s going it but I remember yours the most. I just hope you aren’t setting me up on a pedestal with evilll intentions

[Scotty]

Why Quin is a mafioso

Cool, Cool cool cool.

Is there any follow-up? What did you get from asking that question?

Wouldn't you like to know?

Quin opened the game by giving nova some crap, and when nova turned it around Quin stuck his tongue out. He dished it but did not take it. I already explained my reasons for leaving the conversation there. I wanted to see his natural progression of thought.

When I forced him to take it, he went full OMGUS

k so i'll admit i never saw this post

What does it mean to you?

it means he explained what he got out of the conversation and i should give up

Quin and I exchanged barbs for a while until it ended here, with Quin acknowledging that he'd missed a nova post of importance. Nonetheless, he has recently returned to his suspicion of me, specifically citing this early game spat as the reason why -- a spat which dissolved when he realized he goofed.

Or something. To be honest I haven't got a god damn clue what I'm on about anymore. Someone tell me whether I'm making a lick of sense.

Posting this to reinforce the point above. Have you recently rediscovered what you were on about? I don't even remember the first half of the post.

Oh and I forgot Quin ... Quin is pretty inscrutable to me and I don't like that.

I second this actually. I also don't like that he was the one to be like "no but the kill was actually clever come on guyezzz" for more or less silly reasons, but like, I think Quin would be a player that would be low key bothered if other players called his play not smart. : p Does that make sense?

hate this. literally both parts are wrong. not even a misinterpretation. wrong.

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

What is the correct interpretation, and why does this make Dyslexicon bad?

He wifomised my night kill analysis. "Because nova made no explicit reads, I think the nova kill was a smart kill which doesn't reflect badly on anybody" got turned into "no but the kill was actually clever come on guyezzz". Fuck that.

"More or less silly reasons" is just the icing on the cake.

Quin got super cranky about this thing with Dizzy, and it looked like caught for the wrong reasons.

yea

Please share.

something wrong if there isn't?

Yes.

lapluie is good and marmot is bad.

no there isn't. fight me.

The "marmot is bad" part is of interest, because later Quin would return to declare Marmot his top civilian read. What was different at this stage, Quin? I hadn't spend over half an hour ISOing the guy. I agreed with an accusation lapluie laid out.

Then we're all on the same page.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

He self-voted because being lynched was irrelevant -- he's Caerbannog. I dug my own grave on purpose by self-voting if this is true. Nobody else could take that lynch. What motivation do I then have for coming back in such a glorious fashion as I did?

I feel like the purpose of that role is to be free to dig their own grave. In either case, your self vote worked to get the beetles off your bathrobe. But what is this “glorious fashion” you speak of?

[Scotty]

At 7 vs 2, I think we're still in a 4-player POE situation. The unlynchable bunny screws with that, but what can ya do. A 3-player POE would be even better if you can manage it (you, dear reader of this post).

Right now I am feeling this for my pool:

Dyslexicon
Charlie Blackmon
lapluie
Marmot

I don’t have a 3 player POe pool, and a lot of it comes from assuming teammates to other people

I see you’re currently voting Colin, who isn’t even in your POE pool for some reason. Very odd. Guess it’ll all be explained as I keep reading throughout the day.

Here’s my current baddie list:
Colin
Marmot
Charlie
Quin

I don’t even remember you suspecting lap, so that’s something I’ll look for.

[Marmot]

Wait for it...

[Scotty]

I'm left with Epi if I stick with my "a thread leader is bad" theory.

How on earth is Epi a thread leader?? He only started doing shit today

[Scotty]

I felt like I was spewing pure bullshit when I tried to make cases on these people:

nutella
Quin
Scotty

They're civilian reads.

~~~~~

I struggled more than I expected to generate a case that I liked on this guy:

ColinIsCool

The case can be made, but it isn't one that fills me with inspiration. I thought it would fill me with inspiration.

~~~~~

It was surprisingly natural and plausible to make a case on:

Dyslexicon

The case does require a lot of infusion from my own interaction with Dizzy, which invites personal bias on my part. With that in mind, I would appreciate feedback.

I felt a similar degree of confidence while casing these two, though without the same element of surprise:

Charlie Blackmon
lapluie

~~~~~

I didn't have to "try" to make a case on this guy, it just happened by the laws of nature:

Marmot

ok, this review convinces me that your exercise had productive intentions (and is in fact similar to what I said I should do earlier -- isoing people and seeing how easy or hard it is to find suspicious content). I still think it's something you would absolutely do as mafia to keep up appearances. Maybe I'm just scarred from Mountains with the GTH exercise.

I didn’t read mountains, but as I said this is what scares me because it’s something he does as town to appear town and yet look mafia like in Ass Class

We should probably just lynch him to be sure

[Marmot]

Wait for it...

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Wait for it...

[JaggedJimmyJay]

This reads as if you already reading your top reads as that before doing your cases and as such makes it seem like we should just brush away those reads.

That you consistently view me as civ (and I guess a bunch of people) makes me uncomfortable. Like, I like having a little civ credit, but I feel I’m being oversold. You aren’t the only one that’s going it but I remember yours the most. I just hope you aren’t setting me up on a pedestal with evilll intentions

Bleh.

The point of the exercise for me was to try to build a legitimate case against everyone, and then determine which cases were the most difficult to assemble or felt the least inspired -- those people would be the civilians. You were seriously the most difficult out of everyone. I struggled to find posts I didn't like.

Anyway, you'll understand more clearly where we are soon. Keep going.

[Scotty]

I've made a lot of posts this game, so I'll take it as a compliment that your case against Mac is almost as large as your case against me (which is mostly built on WIFOM anyway).

I don't deny Mac plays an important role in my suspicion of you. I don't expect you to answer for him. Who are your top suspects?

A lot has happened since I was previously active in the thread. Both of my top scumreads are dead, so my reevaluation looks like this.

Currently, my top suspect is Colin, because of a gutwrenching post I pointed out earlier.

I've gone back and forth on Charlie. His contributions to this game have come when he's taken heat, and despite his low activity (by his standards) and use of baseball metaphors, he's still taken to bashing others' playstyle, namely MP.

Dizzy comes next, mainly because I don't feel any confidence that they're town.

Surprisingly that post by Colin doesn’t even look scummy to me lol

What is your takeaway from Epi? Is bashing others play styles AI for him?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I've been one of the least trusted people. My teammate is Colin, so I make him my most trusted person?

How successful are you at the plate?

Why wouldn't you do this?

[Scotty]

Currently, my top suspect is Colin, because of a gutwrenching post I pointed out earlier.

That's my least-favorite Colin stuff. I am concerned you're parroting me on that point though.

Dizzy comes next, mainly because I don't feel any confidence that they're town.

Who do feel town confidence for?

I don't care what you said about it. I was catching up in real time to offer the best hot takes I could.


Nutella and Scotty.

Why me and nutella?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Also going to [VOTE: Colin] aubergine. Y'all should try it too.

I don’t think I buy your suspicion of me. I think it’s very likely that you just saw a convenient opportunity to parrot somebody else’s point and you’re clinging onto it for dear life.

It amuses me that this accusation of parroting is itself a parroted accusation.

[Scotty]

So why is this a part of your case?

A guy I have personally caught as a bad guy for engaging in WIFOM nonsense entered this game as a replacement and immediately said "I got a mafia role card".

I'm not ignoring that. It isn't irrefutable evidence that you're a bad guy, but it is a bad look.

I parrot this

[Scotty]

My gut is still telling me to vote for Colin, and I might. The case against him might be difficult to construct, but that's to his credit for assembling a hard work post history. His treatment of me, largely focused on what Marmot just highlighted, is one of the worst-looking things in this game to me.

I also note that nobody seems to trust lapluie right now. I would love to hear someone provide a case for her being a civilian.

but just last page he wasn’t even on your 4 person POE. I don’t see what changed here

Also I don’t distrust lapluie right now.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

My gut is still telling me to vote for Colin, and I might. The case against him might be difficult to construct, but that's to his credit for assembling a hard work post history. His treatment of me, largely focused on what Marmot just highlighted, is one of the worst-looking things in this game to me.

I also note that nobody seems to trust lapluie right now. I would love to hear someone provide a case for her being a civilian.

but just last page he wasn’t even on your 4 person POE. I don’t see what changed here

Also I don’t distrust lapluie right now.

My gut disagreed with my analysis, and there are difficulties with that manner of analysis in the first place. A full case on Colin isn't the easiest thing for me, but he does own the individual content I think looks the worst (his defenses of me when MP was dogpeeing on me). Marmot's tone was also giving me pause.

Keep going.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I am having a lot of fun popcorning Scotty's catch-up.

[Scotty]

Marmot
Colin
Quin
Are not dentists.

[Scotty]

Before this lynch gets out of hand, I'm Keith Shover.

I targeted Colin on Night 1.
I targeted Kyle on Night 2.
I targeted no one on Night 3.



I'm not sure of my own availability today, and I'm clearly the wagon leader, so I'm claiming now. Above are links to bread crumbs I left in the thread as to who I protected each night (although unfortunately, my attempt on Kyle failed).

Anyway, shift your eyes elsewhere town. There's no scum here.

[Dyslexicon]

What? Why do people think I’m claiming Keith?

Gurl, you literally threw a brick wall of disbelief to Marmot's claim which was otherwise not disputed. And you wonder why people are prodding you to see if you are actually Keith and have definite knowledge? Gurl.

For the record: If anyone but Marmot is Keith they should definitely claim. If that was even a question.

[Dyslexicon]

Actually, you didn't literally throw a brick wall, because that's not really how we play this game, but still.

[Dyslexicon]

Has anyone done a Colin/Charlie interaction analysis?

I could see Charlie being low effort and blah because of the first lynch I guess.

[Scotty]

Better mafia to nightkill a confirmed civilian power role than for town to mislynch a civilian power role. We need to use the lynch on the scum.

Unless you’re just buying time because you want to get civ numbers down before you’re outed as Caebernog.

What do you suppose we should do with Marmot if nobody counterclaims Keith Shover?

I fully expect Keith to not claim. I support that decision, and it’s why I’m now 100% convinced he’s scum.

The only way a scum would be brazen enough to fakeclaim, though, is if they know they won’t be lynched. (I would think, anyway.) So whether we want to use the lynch to confirm that ... idk. I don’t know where we sit numbers-wise if we change the phase-patters until LYLO like that.

your hand is so far in the cookie jar right now you need the jaws of life to get it out

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: Colin] aubergine

To be with the cool kids.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Has anyone done a Colin/Charlie interaction analysis?

I could see Charlie being low effort and blah because of the first lynch I guess.

I was just considering it. Sure. You should do it too if you like.

[Dyslexicon]

Has anyone done a Colin/Charlie interaction analysis?

I could see Charlie being low effort and blah because of the first lynch I guess.

I was just considering it. Sure. You should do it too if you like.

Almost positive I'm too lazy right now. I will at some point.

OMG. Colin didn't address my coffee scum tell comment, did he? If Colin is scum, coffee scum tell is confirmed. [mention]owner of a lonely heart[/mention]

[Dyslexicon]

Oh wait, deadline is soon anyway lol

[Dyslexicon]

[mention]M Plus 7[/mention] Check PerC? :3

[Marmot]

Has anyone done a Colin/Charlie interaction analysis?

I could see Charlie being low effort and blah because of the first lynch I guess.

I was just considering it. Sure. You should do it too if you like.

Almost positive I'm too lazy right now. I will at some point.

OMG. Colin didn't address my coffee scum tell comment, did he? If Colin is scum, coffee scum tell is confirmed. @owner of a lonely heart

Lol How did Lonely Heart make it in here.

[Marmot]

What is a coffee scumtell and why are you percolating [mention]M Plus 7[/mention]?

[Dyslexicon]

What is a coffee scumtell and why are you percolating @M Plus 7?

Owner used to have a (somewhat silly) scum tell on me that every time I mentioned needing coffee, I was scum. And it turned out to be accurate for the most time : p

And I'm peer pressuring MP.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Colin and Charlie

So, let me process this in a way I can understand.

If you're the manager, and you have to pull one guy of the lineup, do you take out Nolan Arenado, who could, yes, have a bad night, or do you take out a guy who hasn't even shown up to batting practice?

Because I'm not taking out Nolan over a guy who hasn't even shown up to batting practice. I'll wait until I see Nolan struggle and then make a decision then. But not before the game even starts. That's irresponsible.

This more or less sums up my feelings too. Kinda weird to do a policy lynch on day 1, but there are benefits.

What benefits, and what's the policy?

Maybe I used policy lynch incorrectly there, but it sounds like you're saying we should lynch people who haven't contributed at all as a Day 1 rule, Charlie.

Benefits would be not losing voices in a game that's having a tough time taking off and also, of course, there's nothing stopping a scum from just lurking at this point. Especially at this point, maybe.

This doesn't go anywhere.

The next time Epi discusses Colin, he likes him. A lot. This came when I specifically asked for a take on Colin. Charlie appreciated Colin's turn on Elohcin, suggesting that a mafioso has no need to reverse his perspective like this. I don't necessary disagree, but need and perceived need are not the same thing. I'll again reiterate that Elohcin did something very similar (reversed her read on me from suspicion to non), and Epignosis lynched her. Scotty probed on this matter a bit and Epi answered with a question. After the dialogue continued, Epi claimed he initially expected to crap on Colin's posts, but his mind was changed. Take that or leave it.

I don't mind being kicked off the team if that's what it takes for people to start taking more chances at the plate.

Would you vote Colin to save yourself?
Who is your biggest town read right now?

Why wouldn't I vote to save myself? What a silly question.

Colin.

This read hasn't progressed beyond that initial change of heart Epi observed. This is apparently enough for Colin to be awarded the most credit. I'm actually surprised Epignosis even answered this question.

I thought he and Elo were scumming it up together, but I might have been tunneling a bit too hard on that. If Colin is bad, which I cirrrntly think, his vote for Marmot to save Elo is the best look yet for Marmot.

Coincidentally, colin’s defense and attempted save of Elo is also what Epi thinks casts him in golden light and flower petals. Those are my bets for teammates

I've been one of the least trusted people. My teammate is Colin, so I make him my most trusted person?

How successful are you at the plate?

Obtuse.

~~~

Okay, so reads:

JJJ, MP seem town. I’ve explained why for JJJ but MP also feels earnest and interested in solving the game. Epi seems to be playing as I have always seen him (town) so I can get behind him for now too.

This was part of a larger post of reads in the early stages. Okay. He expanded on that at MP's request.

If right now it was Day 2 and I had ten seconds to place a final vote, it would be for Charlie Blackmon.

Why?

Fair query.

Pale green thing on a rainbow list. I couldn't tell you why.

Colin, also, why is Charlie in your town reads? I think I missed that, sorry.

No big — he reminds me of every town Charlie I've seen, which is admittedly limited because he dies quickly, but still. I've never actually seen his scum performance, mind you, so it is a slight townread, but I didn't want any neutrals in that post besides Floyd.

MP again requested more, and this was the response. Colin, what kinds of attributes do you associate with Epignosis which you've observed in this game?

Colin does ISOs on many people including Charlie and judges him as "SECOND BASE". It isn't clear what that means. The conclusion of this ISO seems to have a neutral or even negative character though..

I've gone back and forth on Charlie. His contributions to this game have come when he's taken heat, and despite his low activity (by his standards) and use of baseball metaphors, he's still taken to bashing others' playstyle, namely MP.

Can I get some more input on this comment I made, and also on Charlie in general?

Is bashing others’ playstyles alignment indicative for him?

Not really, to answer your question. Sometimes it can be gratuitous though. In the case of this game, his bashing of MP struck me as hollow and manipulative -- reducing the credibility of a loud voice whose stances couldn't be readily predicted within any mafia BTSC.

ColinIsCool, would you be willing to lynch Charlie Blackmon today?

I have him as a townread. I would rather him die than me, but I wouldn’t feel good about it, and I would much rather confirm Marmot.

The ISO seemed to suggest this townread was diminished if even still present. How has it progressed to this point?

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I don't see anything that tells me they can't be teammates. I'd call them compatible. Give me second opinions.

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I'd like to order a latte and a blueberry muffin as well, please, Jimmeeey?