Vanilla Mafia - [MELTED]

[Epignosis]

Does anyone feel like commenting on my Epi case?

I didn't realize you considered it a "case" but I can see where you are coming from. Though I don't really think of Epi as one to heavily drive discussion even in small games like this. do you have a counterexample?

What, then, do I do?

I feel like you tend to be a bit more on the sidelines, sometimes getting into heated 1-on-1s but letting other topics dominate the thread

That's so 2015.

[nutella]

If/once that line is crossed my ears will be deaf to your protestations.

right now im townreading epi, but both epi and nutella created the whole "literally" debate

so i would like to say there can only be one scum in {nutella, epi}
if nutella flips civi then the next one from there would be epi

so you've already decided to lynch me tomorrow? I'd love to convince you otherwise

ive learned to stick with my guns
lots of shit happens when i dont

and many, many times ive let scum out of my grasps a minute too early

Lol whatever works for you guys but I find that changing my mind frequently leads to more success

Lurching my statement way out of context much? I wasn’t talking about being closed-minded. I was saying that, if people don’t produce sufficient content for me to generate a read on, then I’m going to force a read out of what little they produce and I won’t care if they don’t like where that leads. Big difference.

I don't follow. It sounded to me like you were implying that once you put someone in a category you won't listen to them trying to convince you to move them.

[MafiaMenace]

imagine it from our pov

desperation is bad
dont be desperate

[G-Man]

Look at my ISO read of him. If you read it, this shouldn’t be a surprise.

that makes a lot of sense
i wasnt ever scumreading him
i just had no reason to read him in either direction

so now i know

mmmmmm I don't like this

ew with the shade
its funny how immediately after you make a post about me already deciding to push your hang tomorrow, you come back with this
a post that could pivot shit onto me

Yeah I'm really clever huh.

Here's the thing and you can take it to the bank: I don't omgus. Ever. If I find something suspicious I say as much. I don't suspect people for suspecting me. That's bullshit.

where did i say that shit?
thats shade, simple as, and convenient as fuck too

that isnt omgus, thats desperation to not get lynched when the time comes

Well I do tend to try desperately not to get lynched.

Learning to overcome that visceral instinct has done wonders for my approach to the game of mafia. Getting desperate just makes one look worse in the end anyway.

[ColinIsCool]

Night 1 has ended.

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

Sabie12 has died. She was Blue Moon, a vanilla civilian.

It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

[nutella]

that makes a lot of sense
i wasnt ever scumreading him
i just had no reason to read him in either direction

so now i know

mmmmmm I don't like this

ew with the shade
its funny how immediately after you make a post about me already deciding to push your hang tomorrow, you come back with this
a post that could pivot shit onto me

Yeah I'm really clever huh.

Here's the thing and you can take it to the bank: I don't omgus. Ever. If I find something suspicious I say as much. I don't suspect people for suspecting me. That's bullshit.

where did i say that shit?
thats shade, simple as, and convenient as fuck too

that isnt omgus, thats desperation to not get lynched when the time comes

Well I do tend to try desperately not to get lynched.

dont be desperate
if you are calm youd come across 100% townier
but you arent

so maybe this is something you can change in a future game
no matter your alignment

Lmao as you have never played with me you don't appreciate how funny this is. Anyone else on this site knows that if I am calm it is a bad sign.

[MafiaMenace]

vote: nutella
or however the voting works

p-edit: and yet someone just said desperation is scummy

[nutella]

RIP Sabie.

[nutella]

imagine it from our pov

desperation is bad
dont be desperate

what


desperation is not bad. civilians don't want to get lynched

[MafiaMenace]

imagine it from our pov

desperation is bad
dont be desperate

what


desperation is not bad. civilians don't want to get lynched

mafia dont want to get lynched even more than a civi
they are the minority


however town has the majority, and most civis arent desperate the way you are

[nutella]

vote: nutella
or however the voting works

p-edit: and yet someone just said desperation is scummy

yet he said so in a generic way, not in a way that implies I personally must be bad if I am desperate. because he has played with me before.

[Epignosis]

The fuck is blue moon ice cream?

[MafiaMenace]

vote: nutella
or however the voting works

p-edit: and yet someone just said desperation is scummy

yet he said so in a generic way, not in a way that implies I personally must be bad if I am desperate. because he has played with me before.

no?
he said it makes you look worse

what about that is generic
thats pretty cut and dry to me

[nutella]

Another factor in this is that it's a relatively recent development in this community/mafia playing history that you are considered a winner if you are dead. It used to be that only the remaining living players of the winning faction got to be winners. So I'm used to really, really not wanting to die. But even then, civilians need to not get lynched, especially in a tight numbers game like this. We need to avoid mislynches at all costs. So yeah, I'm gonna fuckin fight to survive.

[nutella]

The fuck is blue moon ice cream?

I just looked it up and it sounds good as hell

[nutella]

vote: nutella
or however the voting works

p-edit: and yet someone just said desperation is scummy

yet he said so in a generic way, not in a way that implies I personally must be bad if I am desperate. because he has played with me before.

no?
he said it makes you look worse

what about that is generic
thats pretty cut and dry to me

No, he said it makes one look worse, and it came across as a suggestion to attempt to change my ways. Which acknowledges that it's a habit I have as town.

[MafiaMenace]

Another factor in this is that it's a relatively recent development in this community/mafia playing history that you are considered a winner if you are dead. It used to be that only the remaining living players of the winning faction got to be winners. So I'm used to really, really not wanting to die. But even then, civilians need to not get lynched, especially in a tight numbers game like this. We need to avoid mislynches at all costs. So yeah, I'm gonna fuckin fight to survive.

what kind of excuses is this shit?
theres nothing wrong with wanting to live

but then you inconspicuously try and shift the blame

[MafiaMenace]

vote: nutella
or however the voting works

p-edit: and yet someone just said desperation is scummy

yet he said so in a generic way, not in a way that implies I personally must be bad if I am desperate. because he has played with me before.

no?
he said it makes you look worse

what about that is generic
thats pretty cut and dry to me

No, he said it makes one look worse, and it came across as a suggestion to attempt to change my ways. Which acknowledges that it's a habit I have as town.

yes
one looks worse

referring to everybody

everyone looks worse when they get desperate

[nutella]

Another factor in this is that it's a relatively recent development in this community/mafia playing history that you are considered a winner if you are dead. It used to be that only the remaining living players of the winning faction got to be winners. So I'm used to really, really not wanting to die. But even then, civilians need to not get lynched, especially in a tight numbers game like this. We need to avoid mislynches at all costs. So yeah, I'm gonna fuckin fight to survive.

what kind of excuses is this shit?
theres nothing wrong with wanting to live

but then you inconspicuously try and shift the blame

what

I do not understand your argument then. If there's nothing wrong with wanting to live then what the fuck am I doing wrong

[MafiaMenace]

Another factor in this is that it's a relatively recent development in this community/mafia playing history that you are considered a winner if you are dead. It used to be that only the remaining living players of the winning faction got to be winners. So I'm used to really, really not wanting to die. But even then, civilians need to not get lynched, especially in a tight numbers game like this. We need to avoid mislynches at all costs. So yeah, I'm gonna fuckin fight to survive.

what kind of excuses is this shit?
theres nothing wrong with wanting to live

but then you inconspicuously try and shift the blame

what

I do not understand your argument then. If there's nothing wrong with wanting to live then what the fuck am I doing wrong

read the last line dipshit
i clearly state the reason right there

[nutella]

vote: nutella
or however the voting works

p-edit: and yet someone just said desperation is scummy

yet he said so in a generic way, not in a way that implies I personally must be bad if I am desperate. because he has played with me before.

no?
he said it makes you look worse

what about that is generic
thats pretty cut and dry to me

No, he said it makes one look worse, and it came across as a suggestion to attempt to change my ways. Which acknowledges that it's a habit I have as town.

yes
one looks worse

referring to everybody

everyone looks worse when they get desperate

Good lord we are talking past each other so badly. I took it as: if I want to look better when I'm town, I should learn not to do this behavior that tends to make me look bad. He wasn't straight up saying "this is making you, nutella, in this game, look worse", he was saying that if I am town I should try not to look so bad.

[nutella]

Another factor in this is that it's a relatively recent development in this community/mafia playing history that you are considered a winner if you are dead. It used to be that only the remaining living players of the winning faction got to be winners. So I'm used to really, really not wanting to die. But even then, civilians need to not get lynched, especially in a tight numbers game like this. We need to avoid mislynches at all costs. So yeah, I'm gonna fuckin fight to survive.

what kind of excuses is this shit?
theres nothing wrong with wanting to live

but then you inconspicuously try and shift the blame

what

I do not understand your argument then. If there's nothing wrong with wanting to live then what the fuck am I doing wrong

read the last line dipshit
i clearly state the reason right there

Yeah I didn't understand what that was referring to. Shifting the blame where? What?

[MafiaMenace]

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 87#p509887

[nutella]

Anyway [VOTE: waywardson] aubergine his posts are all fluff and he has ignored all of the actual game content thus far

[G-Man]

Night 1 has ended.

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

Sabie12 has died. She was Blue Moon, a vanilla civilian.

It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

Look- I dig Sinatra but nobody can beat The Marcel's version:


RIP Sabie. Welp, that removes one name from my middle group.

[nutella]

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 87#p509887

calling out something I find suspicious is not "shifting the blame"

[Sloonei]

imagine it from our pov

desperation is bad
dont be desperate

what


desperation is not bad. civilians don't want to get lynched

mafia dont want to get lynched even more than a civi
they are the minority


however town has the majority, and most civis arent desperate the way you are

I do not agree with this.

[MafiaMenace]

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 87#p509887

calling out something I find suspicious is not "shifting the blame"

it was such a passing remark, that wouldnt turn into anything but leaving doubt in some peoples minds

[G-Man]

read the last line dipshit

Lighten up there, hoss. Name-calling to that degree isn't typically part of our culture here.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

[MafiaMenace]

imagine it from our pov

desperation is bad
dont be desperate

what


desperation is not bad. civilians don't want to get lynched

mafia dont want to get lynched even more than a civi
they are the minority


however town has the majority, and most civis arent desperate the way you are

I do not agree with this.

whys that

[MafiaMenace]

anyways i have to go

[JaggedJimmyJay]

WaywardSon is obvious mafia. Spacedaisy is nothing which is bad as far as I care.

Epi good. Sloonei good. Menace good. nutella good. sprityo good. G-Man good. reywaS good.

There I solved the game. Back to football.

[nutella]

WaywardSon is obvious mafia. Spacedaisy is nothing which is bad as far as I care.

Epi good. Sloonei good. Menace good. nutella good. sprityo good. G-Man good. reywaS good.

There I solved the game. Back to football.

weak

[JaggedJimmyJay]

WaywardSon is obvious mafia. Spacedaisy is nothing which is bad as far as I care.

Epi good. Sloonei good. Menace good. nutella good. sprityo good. G-Man good. reywaS good.

There I solved the game. Back to football.

weak

The presentation is weak, but the reads are real and I feel pretty good about them. This game looks pretty well solvable just on behavior. The civilians are showing themselves.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Seriously though WaywardSon is a glowing red beacon of mafia. The posts are ugly. Y’all can read them and figure it out.

[Sloonei]

imagine it from our pov

desperation is bad
dont be desperate

what


desperation is not bad. civilians don't want to get lynched

mafia dont want to get lynched even more than a civi
they are the minority


however town has the majority, and most civis arent desperate the way you are

I do not agree with this.

whys that

A player’s attitude toward being lynched is going to be more determined by their desire to remain in thegamd than their alignment. Civilians want to play just as much as mafia. A lot of times a person can become desparate because they feel the case against them is unjust.

[WaywardSon]

Seriously though WaywardSon is a glowing red beacon of mafia. The posts are ugly. Y’all can read them and figure it out.

lol Are you considered good at this game? Just wondering.

[Sloonei]

Seriously though WaywardSon is a glowing red beacon of mafia. The posts are ugly. Y’all can read them and figure it out.

lol Are you considered good at this game? Just wondering.

lol

[G-Man]

Seriously though WaywardSon is a glowing red beacon of mafia. The posts are ugly. Y’all can read them and figure it out.

lol Are you considered good at this game? Just wondering.

lol

LOL indeed.

[sabie12]

oh cool...avenge my death and stuff kthanksbye

[Sloonei]

To answer the question, [mention]WaywardSon[/mention]: yes.

[nutella]

Seriously though WaywardSon is a glowing red beacon of mafia. The posts are ugly. Y’all can read them and figure it out.

lol Are you considered good at this game? Just wondering.

Stellar defense

[WaywardSon]

I've played enough with MM to know trust his instincts for now.
[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

[WaywardSon]

To answer the question, @WaywardSon: yes.

What question?

[WaywardSon]

To answer the question, @WaywardSon: yes.

What question?

Well he reads in this one aren't very good.

[Sloonei]

I've played enough with MM to know trust his instincts for now.
[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Why?

[reywaS]

Liabilities will drag us down as the margin of error shrinks. Spacedaisy has one no-time-today-catch-y’all-later post to her credit. We’ve got some reads floating around but how long does her absence continue before it becomes a problem in each of our minds?

if youre suggesting to pl daisy, those never work

Leave your Jump To Conclusions mat in storage. There’s plenty of fresh meat to consider. I’ve been around the block enough times to know about the success rate of policy lynches.

What I mean is, at what point do think her absence becomes a detriment to our cause? This is a numbers game and the numbers are small from the start in Heists.

[reywaS]

mmmmmm I don't like this

ew with the shade
its funny how immediately after you make a post about me already deciding to push your hang tomorrow, you come back with this
a post that could pivot shit onto me

Yeah I'm really clever huh.

Here's the thing and you can take it to the bank: I don't omgus. Ever. If I find something suspicious I say as much. I don't suspect people for suspecting me. That's bullshit.

where did i say that shit?
thats shade, simple as, and convenient as fuck too

that isnt omgus, thats desperation to not get lynched when the time comes

Well I do tend to try desperately not to get lynched.

dont be desperate
if you are calm youd come across 100% townier
but you arent

so maybe this is something you can change in a future game
no matter your alignment

Lmao as you have never played with me you don't appreciate how funny this is. Anyone else on this site knows that if I am calm it is a bad sign.

'Cause I don't want no Robocop
You moving like a Robocop
When did you become a Robocop?
Now I don't need no Robocop

[Epignosis]

Seriously though WaywardSon is a glowing red beacon of mafia. The posts are ugly. Y’all can read them and figure it out.

lol Are you considered good at this game? Just wondering.

You didn't kill him Night 1?

You done fucked up.