Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]

#8301

G-man games are on the same level as LC/BR games.

#8302

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:49 pm This was the most challenging Mafia experience I've had in recent memory.

Agreed. Nothing about this was easy. Definitely my most rewarding mafioso victory to date.

#8303

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:53 pm G-man games are on the same level as LC/BR games.

Oh, please.

LC and BR games are far more structurally sound than mine. They are masters of balance and functionality.

My games are mostly memorable because everybody seems to lose their dang minds while playing them. It covers up the inherent flaws.

#8304

Great game everyone.

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] [mention]juliets[/mention] @other civs: i'm sorry, i tried. I really did. I could've kept going. I could've switched speedchuck and Epignosis tonight, and get the not-Ted mafia killed. Or i could've used Harriet on both of them. But in the end i had to respect the Take 5 Bomb possibility, and couldn't risk it. A well deserved win to the Master team. They played great.

#8305

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:53 pm G-man games are on the same level as LC/BR games.
Oh, please.

LC and BR games are far more structurally sound than mine. They are masters of balance and functionality.

My games are mostly memorable because everybody seems to lose their dang minds while playing them. It covers up the inherent flaws.

Is losing our minds not part of the design?

#8306

Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:01 pm Great game everyone.

@other civs: i'm sorry, i tried. I really did. I could've kept going. I could've switched speedchuck and Epignosis tonight, and get the not-Ted mafia killed. Or i could've used Harriet on both of them. But in the end i had to respect the Take 5 Bomb possibility, and couldn't risk it. A well deserved win to the Master team. They played great.

Killing me gave town a chance that it wouldn’t have had otherwise. I had a +1 vote that I’d been hanging on to all game which would have made it all but impossible to lynch any of us moving forward.

#8307

On the subject of vote value, I believe Ted’s ended up at exactly 1. What a rollercoaster.

#8308

Thanks so much for the game, LC and BR!

Congrats, winning scum team!

Also, well played, town!
I wish I stayed longer in the game, but such is mafia. Thank you to those who invited me.

#8309

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:07 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:53 pm G-man games are on the same level as LC/BR games.
Oh, please.

LC and BR games are far more structurally sound than mine. They are masters of balance and functionality.

My games are mostly memorable because everybody seems to lose their dang minds while playing them. It covers up the inherent flaws.
Is losing our minds not part of the design?

Ordinarily, no. I’ve never understood why they turn out the way that they do. Half the time you folks just go all post-happy on me and it goes from there. The other half of the time is probably my fault for throwing something unexpected at you, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it was a well-thought-out something unexpected.

#8310

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:10 pm Thanks so much for the game, LC and BR!

Congrats, winning scum team!

Also, well played, town!
I wish I stayed longer in the game, but such is mafia. Thank you to those who invited me.

You are a scary civilian.

#8311

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:09 pm On the subject of vote value, I believe Ted’s ended up at exactly 1. What a rollercoaster.

That was half our discussion half the time.

#8312

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:10 pm Thanks so much for the game, LC and BR!

Congrats, winning scum team!

Also, well played, town!
I wish I stayed longer in the game, but such is mafia. Thank you to those who invited me.

Your ghost posts were MVP worthy.

#8313

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:14 pmYou are a scary civilian.

Why, thank you. I didn't catch you though! But I'm happy with my play overall. ^^

If I had trusted SVS and Juliets more, it would've been even better. But I think we all did our best.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #8314

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:42 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:26 pm Yall Epi was so obviously bad for the last several phases idk why you didn't lynch him lol gg
I mean

Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:34 pm What i'm getting out of todays interactions and people's willingness to lynch each other, is this:

Epignosis:
NOT teammate with Tony: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 51#p594551, http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 55#p594555, http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 77#p594577
NOT teammate with Ted: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 75#p594475, http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 31#p594631
NOT teammate with speedchuck: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 62#p594662, http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 60#p594660

But Jay's point about your lack of sloonei stuff though. And also literally all of your posts.

#8315

Other Mafia team had some woeful luck. Condolences to them.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #8316

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:09 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:01 pm Great game everyone.

@other civs: i'm sorry, i tried. I really did. I could've kept going. I could've switched speedchuck and Epignosis tonight, and get the not-Ted mafia killed. Or i could've used Harriet on both of them. But in the end i had to respect the Take 5 Bomb possibility, and couldn't risk it. A well deserved win to the Master team. They played great.
Killing me gave town a chance that it wouldn’t have had otherwise. I had a +1 vote that I’d been hanging on to all game which would have made it all but impossible to lynch any of us moving forward.

Nice, lol. Tranq MVP for playing a bit of both sides?

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #8317

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:15 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:10 pm Thanks so much for the game, LC and BR!

Congrats, winning scum team!

Also, well played, town!
I wish I stayed longer in the game, but such is mafia. Thank you to those who invited me.
Your ghost posts were MVP worthy.

Yeah this also

#8318

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:20 pm Other Mafia team had some woeful luck. Condolences to them.

Sabie getting accidentally taken out like that has to be one of the unluckiest things I’ve ever seen in a game.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #8319

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:14 pmYou are a scary civilian.
Why, thank you. I didn't catch you though! But I'm happy with my play overall. ^^

If I had trusted SVS and Juliets more, it would've been even better. But I think we all did our best.

Wait yeah so about that. Were you not the harbinger? I thought that's what juliets was referencing, that you should have known she was 100% town.

#8320

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:20 pm Other Mafia team had some woeful luck. Condolences to them.
Sabie getting accidentally taken out like that has to be one of the unluckiest things I’ve ever seen in a game.

Agreed. AM team had it rough overall.

#8321

Yeah, Anti-monitor team really didn't get a break this game. Between being the first under heavy pressure and the accidental killing of Sabie (who would've been lynched anyway, but at least it would take longer). But they all still did great despite of being under fire pretty much all game. Respect.

I think town did wonderful as well tbh. In order to win a multiball game where almost half the game isn't town you have to have both luck and play almost perfect. And town is the hardest alignment to get to "perfect". I really thought there was a lot of great play. The only thing I think can get better (talking to myself especially) is cooperation. It should feel like a mutual effort in the moment, and it did at times in the game. Of course that is extra hard when you realize half the game is scum (so who can you really trust, right.)

And obviously the Master's teamed played great as well. And they kind of ran away with it with the head start they had, having the Anti-Monitor's team being the team that got the most heat.

So overall just a lot of great play imo. ^^

#8322

Good game gang. Well played other baddos and Tranq! Thanks for a memorable GOC, Black Con.

#8323

I'd like to claim an assist for mislynching three people via pure survivalism

#8324

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:29 pm Yeah, Anti-monitor team really didn't get a break this game. Between being the first under heavy pressure and the accidental killing of Sabie (who would've been lynched anyway, but at least it would take longer). But they all still did great despite of being under fire pretty much all game. Respect.

I think town did wonderful as well tbh. In order to win a multiball game where almost half the game isn't town you have to have both luck and play almost perfect. And town is the hardest alignment to get to "perfect". I really thought there was a lot of great play. The only thing I think can get better (talking to myself especially) is cooperation. It should feel like a mutual effort in the moment, and it did at times in the game. Of course that is extra hard when you realize half the game is scum (so who can you really trust, right.)

And obviously the Master's teamed played great as well. And they kind of ran away with it with the head start they had, having the Anti-Monitor's team being the team that got the most heat.

So overall just a lot of great play imo. ^^

It is as if this was a game comprised of champions.

#8325

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:23 pmWait yeah so about that. Were you not the harbinger? I thought that's what juliets was referencing, that you should have known she was 100% town.

No, I was just VT. My favorite role.
I inherited a jailkeep from G-Man the first night, which is how I knew he was town. When Jay and Ted ignored me going good for him, I definitely thought they were scum. I didn't use my jailkeep on N2, though I considered jailing Mac. I don't know who killed me.

#8326

The Sabie Incident was remarkable. Night 2:

"sabie is at risk of being shot. We'll need to swap her with someone unlikely to draw any attention from night kills. Michelle seems like a good choice. She is under the radar without being a major suspect. Only Turnip Head seems to suspect her much. So unless TH is exactly a vigilante and decides to kill exactly Michelle exactly tonight, we're okay."

#8327

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:31 pm
It is as if this was a game comprised of champions.

#8328

Why was no one resurrected?

#8329

If you don't know, I did steal Dyslexicon's role in chat with Dom's BTSC, which gave me the leverage I had late gate. I also discussed juliets being the Monitor and suggested he talk with her next (I think I did that anyway).

Still had to lie about the role a little.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #8330

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:32 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:23 pmWait yeah so about that. Were you not the harbinger? I thought that's what juliets was referencing, that you should have known she was 100% town.
No, I was just VT. My favorite role.
I inherited a jailkeep from G-Man the first night, which is how I knew he was town. When Jay and Ted ignored me going good for him, I definitely thought they were scum. I didn't use my jailkeep on N2, though I considered jailing Mac. I don't know who killed me.

Huh, confused about what [mention]juliets[/mention] was talking about then

#8331

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:34 pm If you don't know, I did steal Dyslexicon's role in chat with Dom's BTSC, which gave me the leverage I had late gate. I also discussed juliets being the Monitor and suggested he talk with her next (I think I did that anyway).

Still had to lie about the role a little.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #8332

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:34 pm Why was no one resurrected?

Either the harbinger died or jay found who it was

#8333

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:32 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:23 pmWait yeah so about that. Were you not the harbinger? I thought that's what juliets was referencing, that you should have known she was 100% town.
No, I was just VT. My favorite role.
I inherited a jailkeep from G-Man the first night, which is how I knew he was town. When Jay and Ted ignored me going good for him, I definitely thought they were scum. I didn't use my jailkeep on N2, though I considered jailing Mac. I don't know who killed me.

Mac did.

#8334

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:33 pm The Sabie Incident was remarkable. Night 2:

"sabie is at risk of being shot. We'll need to swap her with someone unlikely to draw any attention from night kills. Michelle seems like a good choice. She is under the radar without being a major suspect. Only Turnip Head seems to suspect her much. So unless TH is exactly a vigilante and decides to kill exactly Michelle exactly tonight, we're okay."

It was destiny.

Thanks for being so wrong on that, Turnip. Also, I really enjoyed working with you this game. <3

#8335

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:34 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:34 pm If you don't know, I did steal Dyslexicon's role in chat with Dom's BTSC, which gave me the leverage I had late gate. I also discussed juliets being the Monitor and suggested he talk with her next (I think I did that anyway).

Still had to lie about the role a little.

Spoiler: show

#8336

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:34 pmjay found who it was

I went 0 for 7

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #8337

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:33 pm The Sabie Incident was remarkable. Night 2:

"sabie is at risk of being shot. We'll need to swap her with someone unlikely to draw any attention from night kills. Michelle seems like a good choice. She is under the radar without being a major suspect. Only Turnip Head seems to suspect her much. So unless TH is exactly a vigilante and decides to kill exactly Michelle exactly tonight, we're okay."

LMAO

#8338

[mention]sig[/mention]’s lone Day 2 post had us laughing in scum chat. He was 100% right on mac

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #8339

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:34 pm If you don't know, I did steal Dyslexicon's role in chat with Dom's BTSC, which gave me the leverage I had late gate. I also discussed juliets being the Monitor and suggested he talk with her next (I think I did that anyway).

Still had to lie about the role a little.

Wait... so dizzy was the harbinger.

I'm so confused.

DId the hosts forget to tell dizzy about juliets or did dizzy miss it somehow or...??

#8340

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:33 pm The Sabie Incident was remarkable. Night 2:

"sabie is at risk of being shot. We'll need to swap her with someone unlikely to draw any attention from night kills. Michelle seems like a good choice. She is under the radar without being a major suspect. Only Turnip Head seems to suspect her much. So unless TH is exactly a vigilante and decides to kill exactly Michelle exactly tonight, we're okay."

Mwahahaha

Great game everybody! All teams played hard, and the winners deserved the win. Thanks LC and BR for hosting!

#8341

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:34 pm Mac did.

See. =p
I was just dumb enough to think that I still was considered too much of an outsider to be killed first here, so people wouldn't be too scared of me. Don't know why I thought that as I was killed N1 the last time I was town here lol. I was very close to just submitting a jail on Mac, but alas.

I'm not very good with night actions in general. I love VT games so much that when I play power madness game I tend to just want to ignore all the actions all together. It's not smart, but it keeps me calm.

#8342

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:34 pm If you don't know, I did steal Dyslexicon's role in chat with Dom's BTSC, which gave me the leverage I had late gate. I also discussed juliets being the Monitor and suggested he talk with her next (I think I did that anyway).

Still had to lie about the role a little.
Wait... so dizzy was the harbinger.

I'm so confused.

DId the hosts forget to tell dizzy about juliets or did dizzy miss it somehow or...??

I have literally no idea what you are talking about.

#8343

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:34 pm If you don't know, I did steal Dyslexicon's role in chat with Dom's BTSC, which gave me the leverage I had late gate. I also discussed juliets being the Monitor and suggested he talk with her next (I think I did that anyway).

Still had to lie about the role a little.
Wait... so dizzy was the harbinger.

I'm so confused.

DId the hosts forget to tell dizzy about juliets or did dizzy miss it somehow or...??

I don't know anything about that. We janitored Dys and I claimed vanilla in chat with Dom. I even fudged the role description but he never called me out on it (Vanilla Fudge, heh).

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #8344

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:39 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:34 pm If you don't know, I did steal Dyslexicon's role in chat with Dom's BTSC, which gave me the leverage I had late gate. I also discussed juliets being the Monitor and suggested he talk with her next (I think I did that anyway).

Still had to lie about the role a little.
Wait... so dizzy was the harbinger.

I'm so confused.

DId the hosts forget to tell dizzy about juliets or did dizzy miss it somehow or...??
I don't know anything about that. We janitored Dys and I claimed vanilla in chat with Dom. I even fudged the role description but he never called me out on it (Vanilla Fudge, heh).

Oh. I thought you knew juliets was the monitor because you got the info from dizzy's role. If that's not the case then nevermind dizzy but I am still confused at what juliets was insinuating the other day

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #8345

Unless you yourself were the harbinger epi and you're just messing with me

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #8346

I'm so goddamn confused wtf somebody solve this puzzle

#8347

We knew juliets was the monitor because we tried to kill her and it failed.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #8348

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:44 pm We knew juliets was the monitor because we tried to kill her and it failed.

k, makes sense. But who was the harbinger if not dizzy because it really seemed like juliets implied that, and it couldn't have been switched or anything

#8349

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:43 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:39 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:34 pm If you don't know, I did steal Dyslexicon's role in chat with Dom's BTSC, which gave me the leverage I had late gate. I also discussed juliets being the Monitor and suggested he talk with her next (I think I did that anyway).

Still had to lie about the role a little.
Wait... so dizzy was the harbinger.

I'm so confused.

DId the hosts forget to tell dizzy about juliets or did dizzy miss it somehow or...??
I don't know anything about that. We janitored Dys and I claimed vanilla in chat with Dom. I even fudged the role description but he never called me out on it (Vanilla Fudge, heh).
Oh. I thought you knew juliets was the monitor because you got the info from dizzy's role. If that's not the case then nevermind dizzy but I am still confused at what juliets was insinuating the other day

I figured juliets was the Monitor because 1) we tried to kill her and 2) S~V~S was the permaghost.

#8350

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:45 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:44 pm We knew juliets was the monitor because we tried to kill her and it failed.
k, makes sense. But who was the harbinger if not dizzy because it really seemed like juliets implied that, and it couldn't have been switched or anything

Ask LC.

I still have no idea.

Would you like to see a hammer lynch tomorrow?