I have a counterpoint
Scum MP would want to roll smoother with the punches
For his teammates that he wouldn't want to disappoint
And good MP simply follows his hunches
[VOTE: Unvote M Plus 7] aubergine
Moderator: Community Team
I have a counterpoint
1.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:22 pmLynch Sloonei after MP. This sucks.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:02 pm 1.Let us begin with a vote for sig
Whose entrance was just too big
He huffed and he puffed and made a scene
But he just looks the opposite of green“Let’s not lynch sig day 1” looks like anxiety being masked as banter.sig wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:02 pm Super excited to play with some of the oldies again!
Currently drinking wine and cleaning so not 100% here ergo ignore about half of the grammar and spelling mistakes the other half I'd make even not tipsy.
Also let's not lynch sig day one in this game okay gang? Okay
Also also I'm packing/moving for job, finishing out school and dealing with army junk so activity may be weird for a bit.
Depends on how loyal to the flavor this game is.Russtifinko wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:08 pm At risk of sounding overly simplistic, role claiming and infodumping are allowed, and "the mafia have been given safe character claims drawn at random from a larger pool of possible civilian characters." So come Day 1, should we all just say our roles, then vote to lynch from among the roles that people double-claim?
Also, hard aree with sig on this: "Also fuck rhyming the whole reason i signed up for this game is since I don't wanna post why should I rhyme and be forced to post more."
To be fair, MP seven
I want to clarify for all that this ABBA rhyme scheme is also fine. I didn't include it before; didn't think of it.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 9:26 amTo be fair, MP seven
Did just spend a whole game
Appealing to emotion. And that wasn't done with an evil aim
Because he was town in that game, even.
someone like nanook?
jaggedjimmyjay doesn't allow infodumping where people doubleclaim and get called out. i don't know if this is genuine or underhanded cunningness since i haven't played with russtifinko before, but it pinged me.Russtifinko wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:08 pm At risk of sounding overly simplistic, role claiming and infodumping are allowed, and "the mafia have been given safe character claims drawn at random from a larger pool of possible civilian characters." So come Day 1, should we all just say our roles, then vote to lynch from among the roles that people double-claim?
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:18 pm Rhymes are cool
But puns are better
It takes a man
To make her wetter
feels like tmi
i read his posts and didn't detect the sarcasm. curious if you can point it out?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 9:58 am I also felt a line of sarcasm and negativity in Sloonei's posts that I didn't like. It's faint, but makes me want to place my first vote there.
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
This is good this is good this is good shitMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 3:05 am Hey fuckers it's Power Rankings Time
The Power & The Passion - Top 5!
1. Russtifinko - Putting forth some thinking activities in an environment that is probably not super chillax for scum. Liking ya boy.
2. TonyStarkPrime - Really good looks for the boy. Powers to the top of the rankings on the back of some really willing and hectic town pings and good effort.
3. Sig - I like the fire and the penache stirring from within.
4. Sloonei - A bit of an awkward start but I give him points for considering threadstate so early on. I'll give him a mini pass because a post cap game does make sense to be something bothersome to him. Don't like his FPS town reads though. I see no reason to town read Epi or MP, let alone both of them. Would love an explanation.
5. Nutella - I have a sense that she is towntella but she doesn't really deserve the read. I don't like that she went for the sig town read. I enjoyed the pressure we were putting on him. But she's obsessed with disrupting earnest scum hunting in the early game for some reason as a matter of course so it's on town meta for her to do this.
Everyone Else
6. Turnip Head - I have this sort of inverse read on TH right now where I think he's kind of taking the piss a bit too much to be scum.
7. Epignosis - Really enjoyed him slapping M Plus 7 across the face with a wet fish but he doesn't care one iota about the roof. He's burning through posts, taking the piss mostly.
8. NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - He hasn't posted out of rhyme yet at all and his reads in rhyme have been pretty borderline.
9. M Plus 7 - Pretty bad so far. The only town ping I've had was him saying fuck. But MP is the sort of wolf player who fakes getting upset when he's accused (or perhaps doesn't need to fake it).
10. dunya - What is you doing fam? I don't like the fact that you've left zero impression on me.
T11. G-Man + Speedchuck - They have made one off topic post each in a game that I would expect the scum to have action paralysis in.
You might know this already, but Epi is literally an English teacher irl. So I would kind of expect him to sounds like that as a default. I get that you think it weaken's his case on MP, but it doesn't necessarily make me read Epi as bad. Especially with schools being out, he's gotta find an outlet.
No. You're not doing this to me.
What? Huh? What are you talking about? Point to the things that you are talking about and explain why you don't like them.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 9:58 am I also felt a line of sarcasm and negativity in Sloonei's posts that I didn't like. It's faint, but makes me want to place my first vote there.
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
Our posts are limited, so don't make me ask why.
My gut likes them, that's basically it for slight town people. I basically forced myself to GTH people out of my POE, and the ones that came out north of null fell into the slight town area. In their own methods, I felt like Nanook and Turnip are contributing their own reads and thoughts on matters in a genuine way.
Sorry yeah I kind of missed that
It's an extremely strong positive gut response to pretty much everything he's said in this game. Sloonei feels different to me when he's scum, like it's hard to explain... when he's scum, he makes observations, points, etc., but there's no underlying drive, the agenda is easier to squint and see, even if he is good scum.dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 2:03 pm oh cool, town mp is on my team. that's a relief.
mp, can you tell me why sloonei is "strong town"?
i didn't like gman's second post in the game. for all the effort he went into rhyming, i felt like we got 0 reads or anything of substance from it even if he only has a little time (so do i). that's where he and nanook differ for me, nanook offered some opinions on people (they weren't grand sweeping isos, but i don't care if people want to stick to a schtick and from memory it's common that nanook does this).
i am rereading sloonei now, because i feel i missed something.
My philosophy has changed there. If sig is going to be a pivotal lynch in the game of concern, and if he is going to be incredibly difficult to assess and/or work with, then I don't see why we should feel the need to sidestep around him. I'm willing to lynch him Day 1 in every game we play if he doesn't budge even a little. That's all I'm personally asking for, I can't speak for others.
Alright.
It's useful wisdom but I felt the tone here was a little mean.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:35 amy'all wasting moments with each rhyme. all that effort in vain for no benefit.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:00 pm
Day 0 begins now and will last 24 hours. Each player may post a maximum of 25 times during Day 0. All Jiggy pursuits, night actions, and voting will not take place until Day 1 and onward. You may begin posting.
Bashing nutella for a recent mislynch in another game.
This one too.Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 3:26 am7. I don’t give a drizzling shit about being right at this stage. I have an immediate reaction to reads that have been put forth.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 2:52 amI warn you against making reads such as this. I swear in god's name you did the same in a recent game and it ended up the drizzling shits.
Epi out forth a read on MP and I believe his intentions were pure. MP looks like MP.
I believe it is that I have greatly misunderstood the nature of Day 0. I was under the impression that Day 0 gave us 25 posts and that Day 1 gave us 25 new posts. Doing the math here implies that wasn't the case. Mac's accusation against me (that I'm burning through posts when I only made two Day 1 posts) implies that he was under (what I assume to be) the correct interpretation.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:05 pm
Post count ceilings for Day 1:
26 - Dragon D. Luffy
28 - dunya
34 - Epignosis
26 - G-Man
29 - M Plus 7
28 - MacDougall
30 - NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
30 - nutella
29 - Russtifinko
28 - sig
31 - Sloonei
26 - speedchuck
29 - TonyStarkPrime
28 - Turnip Head
Jiggy pursuits are now underway, and your 4-liners actually count.
The enlarged either means that Russ is believing the same thing I was regarding Day 0, or he's being willfully ignorant here. I lean the former.Russtifinko wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 8:51 am1.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:22 pmLynch Sloonei after MP. This sucks.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:02 pm 1.Let us begin with a vote for sig
Whose entrance was just too big
He huffed and he puffed and made a scene
But he just looks the opposite of green“Let’s not lynch sig day 1” looks like anxiety being masked as banter.sig wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:02 pm Super excited to play with some of the oldies again!
Currently drinking wine and cleaning so not 100% here ergo ignore about half of the grammar and spelling mistakes the other half I'd make even not tipsy.
Also let's not lynch sig day one in this game okay gang? Okay
Also also I'm packing/moving for job, finishing out school and dealing with army junk so activity may be weird for a bit.
I agree about this being a bad look for Sloonei. Yeah, sig expressed conflicting views about rhyming. But to me that post, taken as a whole, reads as something a civ throws out because they aren't overly concerned with looking good. Mafia are the ones who try super hard to avoid contradictions in their posts, and that seems like it would've been super easy to avoid here.
Also, "let's not lynch sig day 1" is almost definitely anxiety masked as banter - no one likes dying D1. I don't see how it's alignment-indicative. Sloonei maybe you can explain that one?
Actually, as I reread Sloonei it looks worse and worse to me. As Tony pointed out, he started the lynch train on sig, then switch his vote to Tony because he didn't like all the votes on sig.....what???
-Other Thoughts-
Gonna disagree with Mac - I think Epi is genuinely scumhunting in his big D1 post about MP and Sloonei, and I don't really care about someone "burning through" their D0 posts.
On the other hand, although NANOOK's rhymes are probably the dopest so far, he's burning through D1 posts, which IMO is a different matter than the D0 ones. I also hate the vote on sig - I think it was bandwagony and poorly justified.
MP did the same thing as sig with the ambivalent response to post count limits, and I also don't think that is a big deal - knowing MP, he is probably really excited to be playing this but massively busy, so I bet he vascillates between wanting infinite posts and not having time to read infinite posts. I think the Omerta thing is really the only decent point in Epi's case against MP, but Epi says: "But that isn't important."
The same thing applies here. At this point, Nanook had eight posts, which would mean "20+ posts left" isn't true. If counting started at Day 0, Nanook has 12 left (he currently has 13 posts).NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 8:56 am You’re talking wack, son
I’ve got like 20+ posts left
I’m barely a quarter done
I won’t leave you missing me and bereft
My vote is the best one
And I don’t wanna hear no beef
Pretending my reads are good is fun
So stop fighting it and hop on my scum killing leaf
(8)
"I would vote Epi out before MP" is a strange conclusion to "i feel like epi's case on mp was a bit more like an english teacher nitpicking someone's grammar vs. scumminess in posts."Russtifinko wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 12:44 pmYou might know this already, but Epi is literally an English teacher irl. So I would kind of expect him to sounds like that as a default. I get that you think it weaken's his case on MP, but it doesn't necessarily make me read Epi as bad. Especially with schools being out, he's gotta find an outlet.
You felt like that because there wasn't anything of substance. It was an apology with a promise to be with us later. Anybody can see that. You're trying to spin a fact into an opinion.dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 2:03 pm oh cool, town mp is on my team. that's a relief.
mp, can you tell me why sloonei is "strong town"?
i didn't like gman's second post in the game. for all the effort he went into rhyming, i felt like we got 0 reads or anything of substance from it even if he only has a little time (so do i). that's where he and nanook differ for me, nanook offered some opinions on people (they weren't grand sweeping isos, but i don't care if people want to stick to a schtick and from memory it's common that nanook does this).
i am rereading sloonei now, because i feel i missed something.
no, i literally said that the time it took him to come up with that he could have offered an opinion on even 1 person. those were like 10 lines of thought-out rhymes, im not buying he couldn't have chipped in somewhere. if you don't like that conclusion, then idc.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 5:25 pmYou felt like that because there wasn't anything of substance. It was an apology with a promise to be with us later. Anybody can see that. You're trying to spin a fact into an opinion.dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 2:03 pm oh cool, town mp is on my team. that's a relief.
mp, can you tell me why sloonei is "strong town"?
i didn't like gman's second post in the game. for all the effort he went into rhyming, i felt like we got 0 reads or anything of substance from it even if he only has a little time (so do i). that's where he and nanook differ for me, nanook offered some opinions on people (they weren't grand sweeping isos, but i don't care if people want to stick to a schtick and from memory it's common that nanook does this).
i am rereading sloonei now, because i feel i missed something.
yes, i know, but it felt to me like strawman arguments. i mean really, MP isn't allowed to complain about "keeping track of post count" because he's an accounting professor???? nah.Russtifinko wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 12:44 pmYou might know this already, but Epi is literally an English teacher irl. So I would kind of expect him to sounds like that as a default. I get that you think it weaken's his case on MP, but it doesn't necessarily make me read Epi as bad. Especially with schools being out, he's gotta find an outlet.
i hate this. you're trying to downplay the lack of basis for your case by saying "but everyone else thought the same, so i'm not odd, i'm not different, i'm just like the rest of you" bad.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 5:19 pm I do not agree that my treatment of MP was pedantic in the least (which is what the description implies). The meat of my accusation against MP was him complaining about posts and not doing anything about acquiring more posts. Then I realized I read everything about Day 0 the wrong way and it would appear I wasn't alone.
no, i've literally given MP a town read, so try to set another narrative for me please.
i don't see the menace in his posts or "mean" tone you seem to, but i'm curious where sloonei's meta of being mean when he's scum came up? if anything, my experience with him is the opposite. any examples come to mind immediately? you don't have to link me to anything, just curious.
also to clarify, when i read the thread i quoted posts as i went along and replied to them then pasted them all in one post and hit submit. at the time i was reading everyone was voting for MP after epi's case, hence my "i'd sooner vote epi than mp". it wasn't meant as "mp is bad but less bad than epi".
I am not downplaying the lack of basis for my case.dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 5:53 pmi hate this. you're trying to downplay the lack of basis for your case by saying "but everyone else thought the same, so i'm not odd, i'm not different, i'm just like the rest of you" bad.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 5:19 pm I do not agree that my treatment of MP was pedantic in the least (which is what the description implies). The meat of my accusation against MP was him complaining about posts and not doing anything about acquiring more posts. Then I realized I read everything about Day 0 the wrong way and it would appear I wasn't alone.
That's what this was?
Very well. What is the basis of it?dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 2:03 pm oh cool, town mp is on my team. that's a relief.
mp, can you tell me why sloonei is "strong town"?
i didn't like gman's second post in the game. for all the effort he went into rhyming, i felt like we got 0 reads or anything of substance from it even if he only has a little time (so do i). that's where he and nanook differ for me, nanook offered some opinions on people (they weren't grand sweeping isos, but i don't care if people want to stick to a schtick and from memory it's common that nanook does this).
i am rereading sloonei now, because i feel i missed something.
Must be knew around here?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 2:00 amHow does lynching you make us dumb? Are we meant to magically know you're town?
What's your opinion on dunya?
dunya has 11 posts and Day 1 is halfway over.
what? Why not? She's criticizing things
I am an idiot - should have realized this way sooner. It looks like however many posts we made on D0 got added to our D1 totals. So for example, I posted 4 times on D0 so got 25+4 to work with today. Epi posted 9 times D0, so gets 25+9 today.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:05 pm
Post count ceilings for Day 1:
26 - Dragon D. Luffy
28 - dunya
34 - Epignosis
26 - G-Man
29 - M Plus 7
28 - MacDougall
30 - NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
30 - nutella
29 - Russtifinko
28 - sig
31 - Sloonei
26 - speedchuck
29 - TonyStarkPrime
28 - Turnip Head
Jiggy pursuits are now underway, and your 4-liners actually count.
My read on Sloonei wasn't just because I disagreed with the sig case, it was the way he presented it - made a case, placed a vote to get things going, then jumped off when 2 people joined. It seemed waffly and I could imagine a baddie thought process of "I'll subtly start a sig lynch here....wait it gained steam too fast....I don't wanna get revenge lynched D2, better distance."M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 1:34 pmSpoiler: show
I don't entirely understand why you think it's a bad look for Sloonei -- is it because you disagree with it?
What makes you feel like Epi is genuinely scumhunting there? I don't disagree even, but what about it indicates to you that he's trying to assess my alignment?
How is the Omerta thing a decent point exactly? I hardly remember what actually happened in that game, except for I was scum. Then, thinking on it, I thought I recalled us not having a hard time in that game, but other than that my memory is pretty fuzzy about it. Regardless, why would that be a point towards my alignment here? That's what I think I don't understand.
To state this even more strongly - dunya's 5th post of the game started with "oh cool, town mp is on my team. that's a relief." I have a slight town read on MP right now, but it's D1 and you're willing to 100% clear him? I remember MP's meta being that he's slightly more likely to read people as town if they read him as town, and given that he was already gettign some cred from Sloonei eariler, it seems like dunya may be trying to get in his good graces here. Dunya, maybe explain a little better why you think MP is bona fide 100% civvie?
dunya, can you clarify more why you "hate" Epi's interpretation of the D0-D1 post count rules? It sounds like a vast proportion of the players misunderstood them, and when he realized he had, he immediately backed off and said it blew up his case. I could see this being more of "attack anyone who attacks MP to get in his good graces" like what I mentioned above.dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 5:53 pmi hate this. you're trying to downplay the lack of basis for your case by saying "but everyone else thought the same, so i'm not odd, i'm not different, i'm just like the rest of you" bad.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 5:19 pm I do not agree that my treatment of MP was pedantic in the least (which is what the description implies). The meat of my accusation against MP was him complaining about posts and not doing anything about acquiring more posts. Then I realized I read everything about Day 0 the wrong way and it would appear I wasn't alone.
no, i've literally given MP a town read, so try to set another narrative for me please.
Does anyone have some berries and whipped cream I can put on this waffle?
...sig wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 6:06 pm Waaa waaa waaa sig is being mean for accusing me like he did last game which seeing how it's going on you shouldnt be mentioning anything about it.
Also lol it's preemptive for sig to stay something about being mislynched when he was literally just mislynched day okay sloonie.