You weren't asking questions related to my read on you.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:17 pm Like, wolves who use actual reasons can't get me mislynched.
You're up here refusing to give reads. How do you think that's going to work out?
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You realise you died yesterday if I hadn't veoted the shot right?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:17 pm Like, wolves who use actual reasons can't get me mislynched.
You're up here refusing to give reads. How do you think that's going to work out?
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I still do not follow. How does mac's read on me affect any of this?Hyena wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:08 pmMac was calling you scum, so I didn't expect you to vote for him. o: So, I thought I was suddenly making a mistake voting for Mac when you suddenly voted in support of him. ;-;Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 11:41 pmI vote for Macdougall to get the gun. Hyena reacts strongly to that by jumping straight off the macwagon. Why? I do not know. I feel like several people just decided to distrust me the moment I showed up in the thread. It was goofy. Hynea was among them.Spoiler: show
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This does not compute. I don't know what the accusation is here. There might not be one. It was just a jarring thing that stood out to me.
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Yeh, I was feeling lazy. Fortunately, I found more people to townread so that I could just POE read you as scum. I did give you an explanation though. You just never responded to it. :P
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Y'all could be mafia together and just trying to get people to vote for Mac. :P That's what my head instantly went to when I saw that happen.Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:21 pmI still do not follow. How does mac's read on me affect any of this?Hyena wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:08 pmMac was calling you scum, so I didn't expect you to vote for him. o: So, I thought I was suddenly making a mistake voting for Mac when you suddenly voted in support of him. ;-;Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 11:41 pmI vote for Macdougall to get the gun. Hyena reacts strongly to that by jumping straight off the macwagon. Why? I do not know. I feel like several people just decided to distrust me the moment I showed up in the thread. It was goofy. Hynea was among them.Spoiler: show
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You're also either acting like or genuinely still are in the headspace of a normal game with normal lynches. That isn't this game, so I'm not sure why you're refusing to play outside of that mindset. That's especially weird to me considering the town has, based on what we've seen so far, eschewed even playing in a way that would resemble having a lynch.
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For Johann --
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 1:46 pmI like Jack's and Dusk's pushback -- Jack, because he's going against the grain, and Dusk, because he asked Jack for clarification for what he meant before agreeing with the opinion.
Johann's pushback is a complete null to me. I didn't like that he shaded us, but he also suggested that people were doing it to look active, which is kinda funny to me. I want to say that he just didn't understand what we were doing? I dunno.
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1.) "town cores, a monkey could do it since it is a small game and get some right. To me feels like people just wanna present themself to be active" is shading
2.) I said you were shading the people who were rolling with the proposed towncore at the time, not just me
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So, I forgot to place both Wilgy and Sloonei. Here's what my list would like like with them in it. (the people within tiers aren't sorted by the way)Hyena wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 9:57 pm Okay, so, I think this is where where I am as far as reads go at the moment:
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Didn't Sloonei's line of questioning here start because you suspected him?
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Here is my current reason for G-Man, Drago, and Jack.Hyena wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 10:32 pm Alright, so now that Nutella has flipped town, I think my shot list is going to be {G-Man, Dragomir, Jack}. Those were the three that supported giving me the gun after I announced the I would always shoot Nutella if I had gotten the gun. I think Sloonei rises to my townleans. Boo remains there. Mac is in my townreads now -- his emotional reaction at SoD kinda sealed it for me.
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SlooneiHyena wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:32 pmWhich ones in particular do you want me to explain? :P All of them?
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Meh, it seems like Sloonei is taking this where it needs to go. I'll let him do the build up of it.
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For Sloonei--
Hyena wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:25 pm For Johann --
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 1:46 pmI like Jack's and Dusk's pushback -- Jack, because he's going against the grain, and Dusk, because he asked Jack for clarification for what he meant before agreeing with the opinion.
Johann's pushback is a complete null to me. I didn't like that he shaded us, but he also suggested that people were doing it to look active, which is kinda funny to me. I want to say that he just didn't understand what we were doing? I dunno.Hyena wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:38 pmlol
1.) "town cores, a monkey could do it since it is a small game and get some right. To me feels like people just wanna present themself to be active" is shading
2.) I said you were shading the people who were rolling with the proposed towncore at the time, not just me
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Oh, okay, hold on.Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:34 pmSlooneiHyena wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:32 pmWhich ones in particular do you want me to explain? :P All of them?
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What's that have to do with it?Duskfall wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:21 pmYou realise you died yesterday if I hadn't veoted the shot right?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:17 pm Like, wolves who use actual reasons can't get me mislynched.
You're up here refusing to give reads. How do you think that's going to work out?
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you would have got mislynchedJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:37 pmWhat's that have to do with it?Duskfall wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:21 pmYou realise you died yesterday if I hadn't veoted the shot right?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:17 pm Like, wolves who use actual reasons can't get me mislynched.
You're up here refusing to give reads. How do you think that's going to work out?

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And?boo wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:19 pmYou weren't asking questions related to my read on you.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:17 pm Like, wolves who use actual reasons can't get me mislynched.
You're up here refusing to give reads. How do you think that's going to work out?
I would have gotten mislynched in ever game I had played if people hadn't decided not to vote for me, expressed townreads of me, decided someone else was more likely scum. Woulda coulda. Didn't.Duskfall wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:38 pmyou would have got mislynchedJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:37 pmWhat's that have to do with it?Duskfall wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:21 pmYou realise you died yesterday if I hadn't veoted the shot right?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:17 pm Like, wolves who use actual reasons can't get me mislynched.
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Explain to me how I should be playing different.boo wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:24 pm You're also either acting like or genuinely still are in the headspace of a normal game with normal lynches. That isn't this game, so I'm not sure why you're refusing to play outside of that mindset. That's especially weird to me considering the town has, based on what we've seen so far, eschewed even playing in a way that would resemble having a lynch.
Standard tactics like giving reads, pressuring people, questioning people, etc can help find the mafia.
Going "Nutella is for sure scum.....oops. Jack is for sure scum" does fuck and all to catch wolves.
Going "I trust so and so the most. Vote for them. See ya" does fuck and all to catch wolves.
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Surely at least one of those reads has evolved past this point, right?Hyena wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:34 pmHere is my current reason for G-Man, Drago, and Jack.Hyena wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 10:32 pm Alright, so now that Nutella has flipped town, I think my shot list is going to be {G-Man, Dragomir, Jack}. Those were the three that supported giving me the gun after I announced the I would always shoot Nutella if I had gotten the gun. I think Sloonei rises to my townleans. Boo remains there. Mac is in my townreads now -- his emotional reaction at SoD kinda sealed it for me.
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Okay, so, there weren't really any specific posts that screamed towny, Sloonei? Though --
I dunno. I just feel good placing you in my townleans.
-- I remember liking this post from you because it felt like we were getting on the same page as far as the state of the game goes.
I dunno. I just feel good placing you in my townleans.
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Actually, yes. You're thing with Boo earlier made me townread you more and townread Boo less.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:44 pmSurely at least one of those reads has evolved past this point, right?Hyena wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:34 pmHere is my current reason for G-Man, Drago, and Jack.Hyena wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 10:32 pm Alright, so now that Nutella has flipped town, I think my shot list is going to be {G-Man, Dragomir, Jack}. Those were the three that supported giving me the gun after I announced the I would always shoot Nutella if I had gotten the gun. I think Sloonei rises to my townleans. Boo remains there. Mac is in my townreads now -- his emotional reaction at SoD kinda sealed it for me.
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Bad answer.Hyena wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:06 pmIncorrect, because I'm town. :P
Lime JelloNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 11:30 pmHyena is a bowl of jello, Jack is a pineapple tart, Johann is a slightly disappointing curry, Mac is, of course, an entire chicken in a can, as his signature says.
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I mean I didn’t really want to but I can restate it in more threatening terms if that’s what it takesboo wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:13 pmThe only people it helps, rn, are them, if I am right, so that they can avoid doing it further. It isn't relevant outside of that, because both of them cannot die in one go. The order matters, so it's not as if I'm depriving everyone else of the second read. And if things shift and I think I'm likely to be shot, I can say it overnight so it's out there. If the mafia want to target me over it, it doesn't matter, I'd still have an entire day after that.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:05 pm Yeah, I uh...I’m generally fine with fairly opaque reads, but “it only serves to tell others how I’m linking you” seems like...kinda the point?
So as it stands, it is not time sensitive.
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Y'all vote for me. I'll talk about killing Jack or Johann but will probably submit a kill on Hyena.
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I wanna kill Boo.
Or maybe FG.
Or maybe FG.
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You can't do what it would take, but go for it and find that out the hard way if it's whatcha you wanna do. And then be wrong and that much worse off for it.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:49 pmI mean I didn’t really want to but I can restate it in more threatening terms if that’s what it takesboo wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:13 pmThe only people it helps, rn, are them, if I am right, so that they can avoid doing it further. It isn't relevant outside of that, because both of them cannot die in one go. The order matters, so it's not as if I'm depriving everyone else of the second read. And if things shift and I think I'm likely to be shot, I can say it overnight so it's out there. If the mafia want to target me over it, it doesn't matter, I'd still have an entire day after that.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:05 pm Yeah, I uh...I’m generally fine with fairly opaque reads, but “it only serves to tell others how I’m linking you” seems like...kinda the point?
So as it stands, it is not time sensitive.
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For what it's worth, I probably townread Sloonei more now for the same reason I'm townreading Nanook more after last night -- the curiosity they're showing about me right now feels like it stems from confusion about me rather than any sort of agenda.
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I'd be okay with either moving them up to strong town reads or moving Mac down to my null pile. I think I'd also move Jack to the TOP of my null pile (or the bottom of my townleans), and move Boo down to null.
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Hyena literally just played a game where they were pressured for swapping people into their “towncore” with seemingly no reason and killed people they weren’t SRing over someone they were because one of their townreads preferred it.
I don’t think this is AI.
I don’t think this is AI.
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I mean I will shoot you if it comes to it, you’re not my first choice but if you won’t play the game I’m not gonna hesitate or feel bad about it if you flip townboo wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:53 pmYou can't do what it would take, but go for it and find that out the hard way if it's whatcha you wanna do. And then be wrong and that much worse off for it.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:49 pmI mean I didn’t really want to but I can restate it in more threatening terms if that’s what it takesboo wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:13 pmThe only people it helps, rn, are them, if I am right, so that they can avoid doing it further. It isn't relevant outside of that, because both of them cannot die in one go. The order matters, so it's not as if I'm depriving everyone else of the second read. And if things shift and I think I'm likely to be shot, I can say it overnight so it's out there. If the mafia want to target me over it, it doesn't matter, I'd still have an entire day after that.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:05 pm Yeah, I uh...I’m generally fine with fairly opaque reads, but “it only serves to tell others how I’m linking you” seems like...kinda the point?
So as it stands, it is not time sensitive.
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I am playing the game. Keeping a Point B that is based on Point A being true close to my chest, especially when Point B is outside of that unimportant, is called having a filter. I know with how much wordvomit a lot of people like to partake in, that may be a difficult concept for some to grasp, but I don't really care. If you're town and want to and kill me, go for it. I don't feel bad about you killing me for a stupid reason, whether you'd feel bad about it or not.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:59 pmI mean I will shoot you if it comes to it, you’re not my first choice but if you won’t play the game I’m not gonna hesitate or feel bad about it if you flip townboo wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:53 pmYou can't do what it would take, but go for it and find that out the hard way if it's whatcha you wanna do. And then be wrong and that much worse off for it.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:49 pmI mean I didn’t really want to but I can restate it in more threatening terms if that’s what it takesboo wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:13 pmThe only people it helps, rn, are them, if I am right, so that they can avoid doing it further. It isn't relevant outside of that, because both of them cannot die in one go. The order matters, so it's not as if I'm depriving everyone else of the second read. And if things shift and I think I'm likely to be shot, I can say it overnight so it's out there. If the mafia want to target me over it, it doesn't matter, I'd still have an entire day after that.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:05 pm Yeah, I uh...I’m generally fine with fairly opaque reads, but “it only serves to tell others how I’m linking you” seems like...kinda the point?
So as it stands, it is not time sensitive.![]()
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[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine
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[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] who else are you considering blasting?
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Rn my pool is everyone that isn’t FG/Johan/sloonei, for varied reasons.
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I’ll likely maybe probably hopefully have a narrower pool in ~4 hours
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Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)
Speaking of which, I’m gonna take a nap, I better wake up with a gun
Also tommy if you’re around again before EOD leave me your most confident reads whatever they are
Also tommy if you’re around again before EOD leave me your most confident reads whatever they are
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Who is tommy?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 6:38 pm Speaking of which, I’m gonna take a nap, I better wake up with a gun
Also tommy if you’re around again before EOD leave me your most confident reads whatever they are
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Hyena is a fine kill. I think he's town but also everyone is kinda hard to read so I wouldn't hold it against you.
Would rather shoot Jack but oh well.
Would rather shoot Jack but oh well.
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Duskfallboo wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 9:35 pmWho is tommy?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 6:38 pm Speaking of which, I’m gonna take a nap, I better wake up with a gun
Also tommy if you’re around again before EOD leave me your most confident reads whatever they are
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Whyyyyyyyyyyy?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 9:37 pm Hyena is a fine kill. I think he's town but also everyone is kinda hard to read so I wouldn't hold it against you.
Would rather shoot Jack but oh well.
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Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)
Quotidian barrages of emails and other work drama having ceased for the night, I am back. I am going to start reading from the night post forward and see what sticks out to me. I'm not moving my vote around because I have no idea what has transpired since my meltdown. It looks like a lock on Nanook anyway, so maybe an uneventful EoD is a good thing.