Mafia (GAME OVER)

[JaggedJimmyJay]

This is my last post of the day phase.

Everyone please remember that a tied poll results in NO PLAYER BEING ELIMINATED.

Epignosis and Nanook being the prevailing wagons right now is a state of affairs I am okay with. We could do a lot worse I think. I think Nanook is the better choice between the two.

We have less than SIX MINUTES remaining, so catcher-uppers please be aware of that. @Poison @Long Con

[Poison]

I really don’t know how I feel about nanook’s posts. I just reread them and I don’t feel there is much substance there. I’ve never played with this player before is that common?

I won't say there aint no substance, but I think he usually plays like this.

Goof morning! I'll catch up now.

Goof morning.

I'm sleepy okay!!!??

[Poison]

This is my last post of the day phase.

Everyone please remember that a tied poll results in NO PLAYER BEING ELIMINATED.

Epignosis and Nanook being the prevailing wagons right now is a state of affairs I am okay with. We could do a lot worse I think. I think Nanook is the better choice between the two.

We have less than SIX MINUTES remaining, so catcher-uppers please be aware of that. @Poison @Long Con

Waittt jdkaoaoakkw. I know who to keep but idk who to lynch. I'll ship someone.

[fingersplints]

jjj still my preference but id break a nanook/epi tie

Who would you vote for epi or nanook?

[Enrique]

lets pynch annook

[Poison]

Wait I don't trust the people voting epi. I don't wanna lynch jay.

[fingersplints]

@Poison, the “nothing” tier is meant to depict “I feel nothing about their posts that suggests to me they are civilians”. Surely some of them are civilians; I haven’t seen it yet.

Epi hurled his poo at me and that’s fine. I’ll see what he does with it and determine how I feel.

Have you guys done this before?

I see some posts about my “carefully worded posts”. I don’t think they are very carefully worded, but I also haven’t played in I think 5 years, so maybe they naturally are. I’m not mafia so I don’t have anything to hide

So some other thoughts. Epignosis vs JJJ seemed a bit forced almost to me. But I have mostly good vibes from JJJ, and I almost always get bad vibes every time I’ve played with Epi, so I think they might have just been trying to stir up conversation with how quickly it was abandoned.
I feel uncomfortable with early bandwagons, so while I’m fairly neutral on Marmot at this point, I’m not sure I’d want to vote there as the points on him seem quite flimsy.

I see that there is a “no eviction” option on the poll. I need to read further to figure out what that is about.
I’m going to place a vote for reywaS right now, because I like to be able to see the poll without clicking view poll and as hopefully incentive to show up and post.

I see. What are your views on Scirrus and chard?

Civilians need to be careful with their... OUR wording too!

Gonna be real though, I hate to see Marmot go on Day 1 so often, and if his weird understanding of the early votes for him is the thing that cements the wagon around him, I would like to avoid that lynch. I don’t see it as a scum maneuver, just a casual confusion.

To elaborate based on my own gameplay: my first post yesterday was going to talk about how at my first superficial read I didn’t get what chardonnay was doing/saying. So I re-read his posts and I thought, yeah, this makes sense, it’s actually fine, and decided to drop it from my own post. Maybe I wouldn’t word it as his vote deriving from “reasonable conclusions” but I think this is what Marmot means... the thread char spins isn’t hard to follow. Marmot does not share that view about Jay.

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I think I like this post.

I don’t have an opinion on them yet.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Am I just barking up the tree here?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Poison @Long Con who do y'all want to yeet

I’m treating jay and Epi as a difference check

Why do you think marmot is mafia?

Terrible.

Epignosis is a civilian, Nanook knows it, and he is setting me up to take the fall (aided by the support he'd anticipate from Enrique).

There is zero reason to "difference check" Epi and I (if I am right that it means we're being treated as oppositely aligned). I hate it.

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

@Enrique I don't really blame you for your suspicion, but I hope you'll explore one thing on your own:

What has this game thread given us that should have my attention? I have taken what is in here, absolute table scraps, and tried to make reads with it. Yes, that includes Epignosis and our little spat. He and I have done that many times before, and usually he doesn't wait until the last minute to step off it. If he's been busy then fine; that's why I have been waiting for him to say whatever he will say.

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You have dueling scumreads on each other, gtfo with “no reason”

[Poison]

lets pynch annook

Very motivating.

[fingersplints]

Ok I switched to nanook. I’m willing to believe epis role claim for now

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I have a good PR you shouldn’t kill me

If you do whatever fuck you

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

What a fucking lame end. I hope town loses

[Poison]

Wait I can't vote. Jwoaoalqonsnamama

[G-Man]

The thread is locked. Please sit tight.

[G-Man]

F#@K FLAMINI

It was only a matter of days before the word got out about the Lenker brothers’ revelation and the eviction clause. Piano Estates swiftly devolved into a pit of eavesdropping and ill will.

To the surprise of no one, David Flamini and his superiority complex called for an eviction vote. The HOA board held an emergency executive meeting. They discussed and debated the merits of allowing such a vote, but they relented in the end. If they didn’t hold an eviction vote, then they could each be sued individually for not faithfully executing the covenants they were sworn to uphold.

When the votes came in, it wasn’t all that surprising. Most people in Phase 1 voted for someone living in Phase 2 or 3. Both Phase 2 and Phase 3 residents voted in a similar manner. Then there was that one atheist oddball who cast a vote for ‘Pope Francis and his illegitimate sky god.’ The board would have a talk with him later.

Jacob Ferraro had the awkward responsibility of notifying Anthony Testa that he had received the most eviction votes and was thereby required to put his house on the market within 30 days. Anthony followed suit by notifying Jacob that the board would be hearing from his attorney. And he was rich enough to have a really good one.

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Nanook has been evicted from Piano Estates. He was:

ANTHONY TESTA, a civvie. You are a successful doctor, and you can use your skills to protect one player each night. Your protection will shield your target from any other powers targeting them that night.

It is now Night 1.

Day 2 will begin at approximately 9:00 p.m. EST tomorrow night.

Please submit your power use PMs to me in a timely manner.

[G-Man]

Good news! Nobody violated the Day 1 post limit.

Your post counts have been reset. You may all make no more than 30 posts during the night phase.

[Epignosis]

The one role that could have protected me after I had to claim for stupid reasons.

This is a shittiest Day 1 imaginable.

Have fun.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Okay then.

I don't really know what to do with this game at the moment. People I would call confident civilian reads:

Scirrus
Poison

Less confident, but civilian reads:

Long Con
fingersplints

That's where I stand for now. I will see if I can squeeze any kind of analytic meaning out of this thread during the night. I'd like to try blind interactions to see who fits together and who doesn't -- it's manageable with a small roster, but I also expect difficulty with lack of content.

[Enrique]

that sucks. decided im a vibes guy now

chop:
jjj
lc

no chop:
splints
marmot

idk:
char
poison
grogu

cant decide:
scirrus

already chopped for all i know:
epi
reywas

[Epignosis]

JaggedJimmyJay

You have known for months- MONTHS- that I can't bother with mafia until all of my other responsibilities are taken care of.

You know I work a full time job. You know I come home and cook. You know I have a second job. You know I am an active DFS player. You know I have a family. You know I am participating in your much larger Fallout 2 game.

And it took me claiming to get you to vote off me?

Nah.

You bad.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

General request for everyone:

This game has one of the lowest post caps we've ever had in a racket game, and we still didn't even come close to using that post allotment. I believe only Scirrus and I approached the Day 1 cap. Can we please just try to make use of that? We only get 24 hours per phase to try to figure anything out, and if we have to do so with a very thin game thread then this game was lost for the civilians before it even began.

I feel like I am in FTL Mafia again, where all mafia had to do to win was the bare minimum to exceed the civilian effort.

This isn't meant to disparage anyone's play. I know it's annoying and I feel that. But if we would like to win the game, I think it's going to have to be this way. Otherwise what are we doing here?

[Epignosis]

I should say "And it took me claiming to get you to vote off me DAY ONE?"

I don't care if this eats up another post. I won't be able to use them all anyway. It requires emphasis.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

JaggedJimmyJay

You have known for months- MONTHS- that I can't bother with mafia until all of my other responsibilities are taken care of.

You know I work a full time job. You know I come home and cook. You know I have a second job. You know I am an active DFS player. You know I have a family. You know I am participating in your much larger Fallout 2 game.

And it took me claiming to get you to vote off me?

Nah.

You bad.

The only thing I know about your day-to-day schedule is that you work as a teacher. During school hours, I don't expect you to be around. Beyond that, no dude, I don't have the first fucking idea what your day looks like. I don't even know long long "DFS" takes. I have never done that before. I don't know what's involved with that. I can't read your mind, and I don't have your pocket calendar.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I should say "And it took me claiming to get you to vote off me DAY ONE?"

I don't care if this eats up another post. I won't be able to use them all anyway. It requires emphasis.

There are 12 people in this game. I don't give one shit about that. If we let any mafioso live one extra day, no matter who it is, that is all it takes to lose. We don't get many chances.

[Epignosis]

JaggedJimmyJay

You have known for months- MONTHS- that I can't bother with mafia until all of my other responsibilities are taken care of.

You know I work a full time job. You know I come home and cook. You know I have a second job. You know I am an active DFS player. You know I have a family. You know I am participating in your much larger Fallout 2 game.

And it took me claiming to get you to vote off me?

Nah.

You bad.

The only thing I know about your day-to-day schedule is that you work as a teacher. During school hours, I don't expect you to be around. Beyond that, no dude, I don't have the first fucking idea what your day looks like. I don't even know long long "DFS" takes. I have never done that before. I don't know what's involved with that. I can't read your mind, and I don't have your pocket calendar.

You hosted me in Bike not too long ago.

When did I post?

You moderated Spider-Verse.

When did I post?

You know damn well I'm only here in the late evening, usually after everyone goes to bed and it's quiet.

I think you saw an easy way to get Epignosis lynched Day 1 and you stepped on the gas.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

The only thing I know about your day-to-day schedule is that you work as a teacher. During school hours, I don't expect you to be around. Beyond that, no dude, I don't have the first fucking idea what your day looks like. I don't even know long long "DFS" takes. I have never done that before. I don't know what's involved with that. I can't read your mind, and I don't have your pocket calendar.

You hosted me in Bike not too long ago.

When did I post?

You moderated Spider-Verse.

When did I post?

You know damn well I'm only here in the late evening, usually after everyone goes to bed and it's quiet.

I think you saw an easy way to get Epignosis lynched Day 1 and you stepped on the gas.
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If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead right now. I'm the biggest reason you're alive. Read the thread.

You were already dead, and I saved you. It wasn't even about your role claim. I don't give a damn about that.

[Epignosis]

My claim saved me. I should've have had to claim. When does Epignosis get lynched Day 1? The last time that happened was in 2014, I think.

[Epignosis]

*Shouldn't have had to claim

[JaggedJimmyJay]

My claim saved me. I should've have had to claim. When does Epignosis get lynched Day 1? The last time that happened was in 2014, I think.

Your claim didn't save you. My screaming for Nanook's head saved you. I don't think anyone other than splints even said anything about your damned claim, and she wasn't sure she bought it.

You were mischopped Day 1 of Battlestar Galactica in 2016.

[Epignosis]

And you didn't save me. If you saved me, I wouldn't have had to have claimed.

You condemned me by repeating the nonsensical "Epignosis hasn't given me anything yet" and getting people to follow your foolishness.

[Epignosis]

My claim saved me. I should've have had to claim. When does Epignosis get lynched Day 1? The last time that happened was in 2014, I think.

Your claim didn't save you. My screaming for Nanook's head saved you. I don't think anyone other than splints even said anything about your damned claim, and she wasn't sure she bought it.

You were mischopped Day 1 of Battlestar Galactica in 2016.

Way to go Carl.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

And you didn't save me. If you saved me, I wouldn't have had to have claimed.

You condemned me by repeating the nonsensical "Epignosis hasn't given me anything yet" and getting people to follow your foolishness.

Maybe that was nonsensical. I don't know. I worked with what I had. I'm not sorry for that. You're also sitting here telling me that I watch you use your computer inside your house like I live with you. I'm done with this conversation because I think it's useless right now and it's wasting my posts.

[Epignosis]

You know I generally only post after about 9pm EST. It's the only time I have anymore. It's been that way for ages now.

The poll closed a hair after 9pm EST and I think you tried to pull a fast one, and I don't think my mind will change.

If the civilians after I'm gone want to trust you, Mr. "I saved Epi by lynching Nanook," then that's their affair.

I'll shut up now and do something else.

[fingersplints]

Well that really sucks. Pretty much as bad as it can get right now.

You know I generally only post after about 9pm EST. It's the only time I have anymore. It's been that way for ages now.

The poll closed a hair after 9pm EST and I think you tried to pull a fast one, and I don't think my mind will change.

If the civilians after I'm gone want to trust you, Mr. "I saved Epi by lynching Nanook," then that's their affair.

I'll shut up now and do something else.

This isn’t helpful. While you are around can you please give your opinions on others? If you can’t post til after 9 PM EST you are pretty much on the exact opposite posting schedule as me. But I will read what you have to say when I wake up

[Epignosis]

Well that really sucks. Pretty much as bad as it can get right now.

You know I generally only post after about 9pm EST. It's the only time I have anymore. It's been that way for ages now.

The poll closed a hair after 9pm EST and I think you tried to pull a fast one, and I don't think my mind will change.

If the civilians after I'm gone want to trust you, Mr. "I saved Epi by lynching Nanook," then that's their affair.

I'll shut up now and do something else.

This isn’t helpful. While you are around can you please give your opinions on others? If you can’t post til after 9 PM EST you are pretty much on the exact opposite posting schedule as me. But I will read what you have to say when I wake up

I really can't right now. I signed up for JJJ's game and I'm behind there too.

I make poor choices.

I frankly have no opinions on others except what I said above.

That said I'm really happy to see you again. I am sorry you come back to witness Epignosis on the decline, but alas, that is what I am these days. Too many irons in the fire.

If I get a chance I'll come back around and see if I can make heads or tails of anything in here later on (if I don't pass out).

PS - I recall you being something of a fitness person, and I want you to know I walked 16 miles last week and am on pace for more this week.

[Enrique]

If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead right now. I'm the biggest reason you're alive. Read the thread.

You were already dead, and I saved you. It wasn't even about your role claim. I don't give a damn about that.

Note for posterity: JJJ switched his vote to Nanook, and within a minute Epi showed up and role-claimed.

I still don't know that "I saved you" is accurate but the timing helps. It wasn't a sure thing that Epi would get lynched, and at least a couple of us only went for Nanook in the end because we thought he was slightly preferable to Epi (could have been anyone!).

[Long Con]

I'm sorry for being lame.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Mafia:

I have the strongest power role in the game, or at least it's probably the strongest (certainly one of them). Here's your choice:

Leave me alive, and let me mechanically lock the game.
Kill me, and lose the distraction I represent.

Have fun. Chitter chitter.

If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead right now. I'm the biggest reason you're alive. Read the thread.

You were already dead, and I saved you. It wasn't even about your role claim. I don't give a damn about that.

Note for posterity: JJJ switched his vote to Nanook, and within a minute Epi showed up and role-claimed.

I still don't know that "I saved you" is accurate but the timing helps. It wasn't a sure thing that Epi would get lynched, and at least a couple of us only went for Nanook in the end because we thought he was slightly preferable to Epi (could have been anyone!).

Perhaps I give myself too much credit, but I do think Epi had a 5-2 lead with an hour to go when Nanook made the post I hated and I blew a fuse. It would have been pretty cake from my perspective to just stay put, keep EOD controversy at a minimum, and let him die. If I had been the opportunistic mafioso I am portrayed to be, that's what would have most likely occurred.

[Long Con]

I didn't realize Nanook had just gotten yeeted in the other game, I'm really sorry. I just sheeped JJJ. I hadn't read a single Nanook post. Sorry dude.

[G-Man]

Well this is awkward-

I am in need of a replacement player, but I cannot see who voted 'maybe' in the sign-up thread. If any of you spectators were my maybes and/or you'd like to join the fray, please PM me pronto!

[fingersplints]

Well that really sucks. Pretty much as bad as it can get right now.

You know I generally only post after about 9pm EST. It's the only time I have anymore. It's been that way for ages now.

The poll closed a hair after 9pm EST and I think you tried to pull a fast one, and I don't think my mind will change.

If the civilians after I'm gone want to trust you, Mr. "I saved Epi by lynching Nanook," then that's their affair.

I'll shut up now and do something else.

This isn’t helpful. While you are around can you please give your opinions on others? If you can’t post til after 9 PM EST you are pretty much on the exact opposite posting schedule as me. But I will read what you have to say when I wake up

I really can't right now. I signed up for JJJ's game and I'm behind there too.

I make poor choices.

I frankly have no opinions on others except what I said above.

That said I'm really happy to see you again. I am sorry you come back to witness Epignosis on the decline, but alas, that is what I am these days. Too many irons in the fire.

If I get a chance I'll come back around and see if I can make heads or tails of anything in here later on (if I don't pass out).

PS - I recall you being something of a fitness person, and I want you to know I walked 16 miles last week and am on pace for more this week.

We all have our bad mafia times. That is why I took so long a break!

Thank you for your response. It reads genuine to me. It’s still early in the game, so I don’t find it too unreasonable to not have a lot of reads especially when focused on one person.

That is AMAZING! Well done! I’ve always found the hardest part of any fitness routine is just getting started with it, so now that you have found your groove it’ll just be even easier and more rewarding as you go.

I was actually thinking of finding and posting in my favourite fitness thread earlier but I got sidetracked with this game. The second half of my year long lockdown plus the early months of pregnancy really threw me off my fitness game, but I’m working to get back what I can (safely) now.

Ok guys really 3 AM now for me

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead right now. I'm the biggest reason you're alive. Read the thread.

You were already dead, and I saved you. It wasn't even about your role claim. I don't give a damn about that.

Note for posterity: JJJ switched his vote to Nanook, and within a minute Epi showed up and role-claimed.

I still don't know that "I saved you" is accurate but the timing helps. It wasn't a sure thing that Epi would get lynched, and at least a couple of us only went for Nanook in the end because we thought he was slightly preferable to Epi (could have been anyone!).

Enrique is a civilian. The dedicated timestamp dive is not one mafia-aligned people commonly go for or even think about unless something is just glaringly obvious. I didn't even remember the precise order of events myself as Enrique describes them, so this one was definitely not "glaring".

Civilians:
Scirrus
Poison
Enrique
Epignosis

Seem okay albeit less confidently:
Long Con
fingersplints

The least intuitive up there in the top four may be Poison. I thought her ayeeeeeeedrgsdfbfdlkgfbj freakout at the last minute when she realized she had no time to think looked authentic, and generally before that point her posts were fine anyway.

This game is still fine if POE can be confidently managed, whatever people may think of me. If anyone has a reason to protest any of those four, step up and say so. If I am right about those top four, the default POE is:

--------------------
chardonnay
Grogu
Marmot
reywaS
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Long Con
fingersplints

If LC and splints can be removed as well, and things are in proper order, then the game could be reduced to comfortable POE of four. I am comforted too that it's not just a default POE -- chardonnay and Marmot in particular have done things.

I should clarify that they're "civilian" reads in that they don't strike me as informed. It's possible that anyone could be independent. Night results may shed light there, so I don't care much right now.

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[Long Con]

I'll give you the Long Con Guarantee Of Town-ness. This is a freebie for the purpose of rebalancing the game for Nanook's sake. Let's get the win for him.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm beginning to scope possible mafia pairings. Given that Marmot and chardonnay are both in my primary POE, I started there. I think their interaction can be summarized succinctly:

Marmot and chardonnay interaction

Spoiler: show

Ayyyy, sirrus can be town w/ JJJ, and LC

I actully dont know about JJJ's takeaway from finger splints. Finger's carefully worded posts feel like it could come nervous scum. If JJJ has good meta there then i'd like a play by play in future posts.

-/-/-/-/

Im interested in who else will help me support a marmot wagon. Any more takers?

chard and Scirrus came to reasonable conclusions with their votes for me. I townread them.

Epignosis is trying to solve JJJ. I'll give him a townread for that. I want this to happen.

JJJ is posting in a manner he previously stated was uncomfortable. Not sure if that was a joke or a real feeling. He can surely explain. His vote for me is leaves a bit to be desired. Mild annoyance, he followed chardonnay's vote despite chard being listed in his "nothing" section.

Nanook shaded Jay for talking about game mechanics. No other reads. Big meh.


Nothing noteworthy from other players in my eyes as of yet (except for Grogu's TownWatch LLC, which I'm in the midst of applying for).

I've spent a non-zero amount of time thinking about the possibility that chardonnay was bussing Marmot, just given the frivolous unexplained vote and the enthusiasm behind building the wagon. For the moment, I am inclined to say no to that notion. 1) chardonnay left himself on Marmot all day, and I get the impression he would have been cool with just letting that wagon tip into a chop -- so it'd have to be a hard bus rather than token distancing. 2) Marmot's handling of it doesn't strike me as a good fit for a bus. For mafia A to bus partner B, most often that is secured most effectively by partner B either accusing mafia A in response or at least getting really mad. Marmot did nothing. He said "that's okay" and gave chardonnay a town read.

That'd be an awkward way to handle distancing.

Green (probably not both mafia) logging these colors for an eventual chart if I get to it)

Marmot and Grogu interaction

Spoiler: show

Marmot do you want to be part of ToWnWaTcH LLC?

Marmot do you want to be part of ToWnWaTcH LLC?

Sounds scary, sign me up!!

I don't have a strong reason to townread Grogu, but I will shield them for shielding me.

chard and Scirrus came to reasonable conclusions with their votes for me. I townread them.

Epignosis is trying to solve JJJ. I'll give him a townread for that. I want this to happen.

JJJ is posting in a manner he previously stated was uncomfortable. Not sure if that was a joke or a real feeling. He can surely explain. His vote for me is leaves a bit to be desired. Mild annoyance, he followed chardonnay's vote despite chard being listed in his "nothing" section.

Nanook shaded Jay for talking about game mechanics. No other reads. Big meh.


Nothing noteworthy from other players in my eyes as of yet (except for Grogu's TownWatch LLC, which I'm in the midst of applying for).

Alright. Welcome to the club!

Epi is a fine wagon. I rather protect marmot

This is it. It'd be pretty blatant mafia teammate stuff from Grogu's side of things. I wouldn't say it's super hard to believe.

Yellow (could both be mafia)

Grogu and chardonnay interaction

Nothing. Neither has mentioned or interacted with the other.

Yellow (could both be mafia)

~~~~~~~~~~~

reywaS has no posts, so I'll just throw the other three into a pile regarding their posts about him:

...Nevermind there are none. So technically reywaS is compatible with any of them, and perhaps anyone in the game. fingersplints is the only one to do much with that slot to my memory.

I'll need to expand my digging outside my main POE of 4 and see what happens. Thankfully there's time and 20 more posts to do it.

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[Epignosis]

I'm beginning to scope possible mafia pairings.

This, folks, is horseshit.

They're "possible" because no mafia has been caught yet. Any combo is possible.

This is JJJ trying to look useful. This is what he does. It's busy work.

Please, please, please stop listening to his horseshit and lynch him Day 2 after I'm gone.

[Long Con]

I'm beginning to scope possible mafia pairings.

This, folks, is horseshit.

They're "possible" because no mafia has been caught yet. Any combo is possible.

This is JJJ trying to look useful. This is what he does. It's busy work.

Please, please, please stop listening to his horseshit and lynch him Day 2 after I'm gone.

Ok.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm beginning to scope possible mafia pairings.

This, folks, is horseshit.

They're "possible" because no mafia has been caught yet. Any combo is possible.

This is JJJ trying to look useful. This is what he does. It's busy work.

Please, please, please stop listening to his horseshit and lynch him Day 2 after I'm gone.

For someone who expects me to know his schedule better than I know my own, you sure don’t seem to remember much about me. I think I’ve done this “look useful” work in every game I’ve played since about 2019. This is how I solve games, or I sure try.

You have done this too many times in our years here. You convince yourself of some shit and confirm your own bias to high hell. I don’t figure there’s anything I can say that will make you stop and think, and I hope you take that to heart whenever you see my role.

Because it ain’t my damned fault. It rarely is when we find ourselves here.

[Epignosis]

Pyrrhic victory, Jay.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Getting worked up about the word “possible” is such English teacher bullshit. Jesus Christ.

[Marmot]

Did Nanook really get CFD'd twice in one day?

I'll read up tomorrow and hopefully find answers to the questions I have.