Mafia Misplay Mafia

[Lilypetal]

What drugs have people done

estradiol

[santygrass]

I flip Villa. Lily what is your olan for tomorrow?

[hollowkatt]

So what's everyone's favorite color

My favourite color is penis

ahh, a Flesh Tone connoisseur, nice!

[santygrass]

Also Lily more you than anyone should know my schtick of having early reads with high confidence that people not truly get and that shouldnt be too much of AI tbhtbh .

Tho is true that I havent hard shielded a wolf yet

[santygrass]

Hk you have your vote in ris rn for any particular reason ?
Like, you think they are more scummy than me rn ? Or is it that you feel more like dying and not care?

[hollowkatt]

what's the case for santy over risiinq?

[hollowkatt]

Hk you have your vote in ris rn for any particular reason ?
Like, you think they are more scummy than me rn ? Or is it that you feel more like dying and not care?

I've wanted risiinq dead for like 2 days now and still think their "dichotomy between HK and nanook" post was weird, they weren't able to explain it with any kind of adequacy, and then they just kinda dropped it.
Now they're voting me because they basically have to, they're pot committed to not switching

[santygrass]

what's the case for santy over risiinq?

Neon started ISOing and confbiasing fmpov. I said skill Issue.

If you go a few oages back you can read it ig

[santygrass]

One lf the first thing that I will do tomorrow is ISO ris and ping you about it to give me your thoughts. If I dont do it I ñromise to vote for myself or something cuz I feel like I should have done it days ago

[hollowkatt]

what's the case for santy over risiinq?

Neon started ISOing and confbiasing fmpov. I said skill Issue.

If you go a few oages back you can read it ig

I might do that yeah
I keep thinking about whether or not I should die and frankly I think it would be hilarious to send me to F3. Probably not for you all but for me yeah

What do you think about Neon?

[santygrass]

I was sussing them before, but I cant see that WIM going uo and them trying to pick apart my posts as scummy indicative, but some of the points I just disagree so a little pause regardless.
If I think Neo is town, and have doubts in you, then I have more doubts in... Porscha probably? Which ks weird and just need to relook at PoE as a whole.

But dont have the time and probably my biggest contribution is my read on ris regardless

[hollowkatt]

NONE OF THIS IS SUPPORTED BY ANYTHING I LOOKED FOR BECAUSE I LOOKED FOR NOTHING

current votes:

Santy: neon, porscha, sabi, lily
HK: santy, esooa, risiing
risiinq: HK

does it make MORE sense if two wolves are on me saying "hk is wolf and even if not he has to die" or does it make LESS sense?

I think the longer the game goes the more I can't be a wolf, if I don't go over here today and Santy is town I expect the dialog tomorrow to be "HK was protected, kill him then kill on the santy wagon" but like I've shown today that I'm not someone worth protecting. I haven't participated, haven't solved, haven't done much of anything at all.

Partially b/c I'm lazy and bad, partially because I scored a PS5, and partially because it stops the narrative of "HK was protected" because again, haven't done shit to protect, there's no reason. The wolf team, if I am a wolf, should have been busing me from D2 onward, even D1 after my outburst.

which would indicate to me that either Santy is a hit OR Santy is the "protect risiinq" wagon.

Now if Santy is NOT a hit I think it's more likely that risiinq IS a hit AND ALSO that there's a wolf on the Santy wagon, of which Sabi makes the least sense (watch it be sabi), then Porscha, then probs a tossup between neon/lily, neither of which I really have a read on.

If Santy IS a hit I'm torn. On the one hand having a wolf there makes sense, and it might be Neon then. But having a wolf be off wagon is also fine here as the "off wagon" is the policy chop that's been hanging on for days now.

UGH. I don't think you can say anything concrete if Santy is a hit. I think you can if Santy isn't a hit.

If Santy is a hit I do not think there are two wolves on my wagon. Which I said above.

game is hard, mafia is dumb, etc etc

[Lilypetal]

Also Lily more you than anyone should know my schtick of having early reads with high confidence that people not truly get and that shouldnt be too much of AI tbhtbh .

Tho is true that I havent hard shielded a wolf yet

this is true

[Lilypetal]

I flip Villa. Lily what is your olan for tomorrow?

idk tbh ill think about it

[Porscha]

We love ate

When santy does ate its fine

But when I do it, it's bad

I meant it as a joke (not as obvious as I thought, apparently)

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm sorry neon

You didn't do anything

[Porscha]

I want to have the time and energy to dedicate more solving to this but I just dont

if santy is wolf here i think he's doing a really nice job but like. snow keeps disappearing for like 45 hours of the day and then i'm supposed to tr her somehow and idk how to do it? idk what to do

[Porscha]

glad i'm getting tinfoiled back into the poe since we're a bunch of neurotic monkeys in a barrel

[risiinq-]

i havent disappeared lol

[risiinq-]

idr when i last posted tho but that was only like

15 hours ago?

[risiinq-]

porscha i just. the problem here is ur standard for me being town is really wack right now


even now i dnt understand it looool

[Porscha]

porscha i just. the problem here is ur standard for me being town is really wack right now


even now i dnt understand it looool

that makes 2 of us

[risiinq-]

like why dont you townread me this game? what usually do u think makes u townread me?

[Porscha]

like why dont you townread me this game? what usually do u think makes u townread me?

i think I need to iso you tbh i've just been multi tabbing and working and don't have the energy to do it. I dont particularly have a rhyme or reason just vibes / meta when reading you

[Porscha]

do you guys early interactions with mac / snow would be useful or no

[Porscha]

do you guys THINK*******

[Lilypetal]

i dont think sorry

[Porscha]

i dont think sorry

me either, apparently

[risiinq-]

depends on if it's good for me or not

[Porscha]

depends on if it's good for me or not

lol. i dont think some are bad. some i'm sure I could confbias myself into sr'ing

[risiinq-]

trying to make myself post more so i dont disappear from the game again

hi, everyone

[risiinq-]

esooa also disappeared, apparently

dont blame her though. its just. im also not sure about me townreading her rn.

it's been a very hesitant thing and i'm going to be pretty upset if i backtracked on it and it cost

[risiinq-]

santy's slot is making my head hurt. i hoenstly dont know

i townread them so strongly for like days

i dont know if im wrong or not, but im seriously considering it now bcuz... i townread a lot of players.

i think their play has dropped a bit today, for some reason

i know i shouldnt judge too harshly on dropping because i've been doing that too, but still.

then again, his outbursts against my wagon were really real. istg. it's just, where is that fire now? he doesn't care /that/ much about solving now, i'm going to summarize his play and how it felt to me this way

he went like "yeah. i should reeval ris now haha" and im like???????? where is the former read confidence whatever

[risiinq-]

yeah im talking to myself

[risiinq-]

i mean i guess i still want hk gone over santy because i'm going to be pretty salty if santy flips town anyways (and i mean i still want to resolve hk, i dont think he believes all his attacks, he's wolfy, mhm, yeah, mhm) but i'm in

very-hesitant-mode

so yeah

[santygrass]

i mean i guess i still want hk gone over santy because i'm going to be pretty salty if santy flips town anyways (and i mean i still want to resolve hk, i dont think he believes all his attacks, he's wolfy, mhm, yeah, mhm) but i'm in

very-hesitant-mode

so yeah

@riisinq- if you/hk/me are town, where should we be looking at? Hk last post like, pinged me so town as does his vote rn in you and Im going to hate myself if they pocket me like that but yeh.

My worldview is shaking, Jack Flipping V was an indicator of a misclear somewhere probably, Neon being towny altho wrong also is a indicator of that, so I think it would be dumb to lile, not reassess on you at this point. But wowee Time Issue

[santygrass]

@risiinq-

[santygrass]

EoD D1 Votecount

(As recalled by Achro, call out a mistake if you see one) We know for sure it was 8-7 tho.)

Ender (8) - Visorslash , MacDougall , Porscha, Wilgy, Snow, Neon , Achromatic, Hollowkatt
Hollowkatt (7) Sabi, Lily, Nook, Jack, Santy, Esooa, Enderwiggin

VOTECOUNT AS OF RN

MacDougall (2) - Lilypetal, Achromatic
Santygrass (2) - sabiplz, hollowkatt
JackOfHearts (1) - Porscha
Achromatic (1) - Neon
Neon (1) - Santygrass

Votecount as of rn

Santygrass (4) - Neon, HK, sabiplz, Hollowkatt
Macdougall (2) - Lilypetal, riisinq-
JackOfHearts (1) - Porscha
Hollowkatt (1) - Nanook
Neon (1) - Santygrass

Votecount as of rn

Santygrass (4) - Neon, Hollowkatt, Sabiplz, Achromatic
Macdougall (2) - Lilypetal, riisinq-
Hollowkatt (2) - Nanook, Macdougall
JackOfHearts (1) - Porscha
Neon (1) - Santygrass


Got some quotes while Catching up, In at work rn so posting timing may be weird idj

Votecount asofrn

MacDougall (3) - Drwilg, Lilypetal, Santygrass
Santygrass (3) - sabiplz, Achromatic, hollowkatt
Hollowkatt (3) - Nanook, MacDougall, Neon
Esooa (1) - Riisinq-
JackOfHearts (1) - Porscha

Votecount asof rn

MacDougall (4) - Esooa, DrWilgy, Lilypetal, santygrass
santygrass (3) - hollowkatt, Sabiplz, Achromatic
hollowkatt (3) - Neon, MacDougall, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Esooa (1) - risiinq-
JackOfHearts (1) - Porscha

Votecount as of rn

Santygrass (5) - Jack, Hollowkatt, sabiplz, Achromatic, Esooa
MacDougall (3) - santygrass, lilypetal, DrWilgz
Hollowkatt (3) - Nanook, Neon, Macdougall
Esooa (1) - riisinq-
JackOfHearts (1) - Porscha

Votecount rn:

Santygrass (5) - Jack, hk, sabi, Esooa, Achro
Hollowkatt (4) - Mac, Lily, Nanook, Neon
MacDougall (2) - Santygrass, DrWilgz
Esooa (1) - Riisinq-
Jack (1) - Porsch

Votecount asofrn

Santygrass (7) - Jack, hk, Sabi, Achro, Mac, Neon, Porscha
MacDougall (4) - Esooa,Drwilgs,riisinq-,Santygrass
Hollowkatt (2) - Nanook, Lilypetal

Votecount asofrn

Santygrass (6) - Jack, hk, Sabi, Achro, Mac, Neon, Porscha
MacDougall (5) - Esooa,Drwilgs,riisinq-,Santygrass, Achro
Hollowkatt (2) - Nanook, Lilypetal

Votecount asofrn

MacDougall (5) - Esooa, DrWilgy, santygrass, Achro, riisinq-
Santygrass (5) - Sabiplz, Jack, hollowkatt, Neon, Porscha
Hollowkatt (3) - Nanook, Lilypetal, MacDougall

Votecount asof rn

MacDougall (6) - Esooa, DrWilgy, Achromatic, Lilypetal, Santygrass, Riisinq-
Santygrass (5) - sabiplz, Hollowkatt, Jack, Neon, Porscha
Hollowkatt (2) - Nanook, MacDougall

Votecount asofrn

MacDougall (6) - Esooa, Drwilgz , santygrass, riisinq- , Lilypetal, Achromatic
Santygrass (5) - Jack, Hollowkatt, sabiplz, Neon, Porscha
Hollowkatt (2) - Nanook, MacDougall

Votecount asofrn

MacDougall (6) - Esooa, Drwilgz , santygrass, riisinq- , Lilypetal, Achromatic
Santygrass (4) - Jack, Hollowkatt, sabiplz, Porscha
Hollowkatt (1) - Nanook
Lilypetal (1) - MacDougall
JackOfHearts (1) - Neon

Votecount asofrn

MacDougall (7) - Esooa, Drwilgz , santygrass, riisinq- , Lilypetal, Achromatic
Santygrass (3) - Jack, Hollowkatt, sabiplz
Hollowkatt (1) - Nanook
Lilypetal (1) - MacDougall
JackOfHearts (1) - Neon

Votecount asofrn

MacDougall (7) - Esooa, Drwilgz , santygrass, riisinq- , Lilypetal, Achromatic, Porscha
Santygrass (3) - Jack, Hollowkatt, sabiplz
Hollowkatt (1) - Nanook
Riisinq- (2) - MacDougall, Neon

Votecount asofrn

MacDougall (6) - Esooa, Drwilgz , santygrass, riisinq- , Porscha, sabiplz
Santygrass (3) - Jack, Hollowkatt, Macdougall
Neon (2) - Achromatic, Lilypetal
Hollowkatt (1) - Nanook
Riisinq- (1) - Neon

Votecount asofrn

MacDougall (8) - Esooa, Drwilgz , santygrass, riisinq- , Lilypetal, Achromatic, Porscha, sabiplz
Esooa (4) - Jack, Hollowkatt, MacDougall, Neon
Hollowkatt (1) - Nanook

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@hollowkatt @risiinq- can we look at these votecounts assuming the three of us are town and see if there *is* a possible world here?

[risiinq-]

h iyes i'm here.

[santygrass]

Seriously considering Porscha rn hmmm. Will have to have a more detailed stab at it. Other one is Neon but idkkk Skill Issue

[risiinq-]

ok, let's go off ur assumption for a moment, which is the hypothetical world that all of {santy, snow, hk} are town and we are really in a horrible world rn

the remaining players are {esooa, neon, porscha, sabi, drwigly/the-person-who-replaced-drwigly,lily}

(im going to split this post into multiple posts fwiw i post better like that)

[risiinq-]

i am unwilling to consider sabi and will lose, i guess

i would consider porscha but never ever sabi

[risiinq-]

see, if all of us three are town wolfteam 100% bussed there

there's no way they didn't

i also don't think it's neon ever so like. mmmh

[santygrass]

Seriously considering Porscha rn hmmm. Will have to have a more detailed stab at it. Other one is Neon but idkkk Skill Issue

Also Esooa Wolf equity goes up up up I think?
How clearing were Mac/Esooa interactions?

[risiinq-]

i mean there's always one in {esooa, lily} in that scenario imo but thats hard to wrap my head around

[risiinq-]

if hk flips red though i will clear esooa

[risiinq-]

knowing that if santy,hk,me are all town than the wolves always bussed there is really frustrating.

and this is why i want to kill hk

[risiinq-]

Hk last post like, pinged me so town as does his vote rn in you and Im going to hate myself if they pocket me like that but yeh.

link this and explain.

[santygrass]

see, if all of us three are town wolfteam 100% bussed there

there's no way they didn't

i also don't think it's neon ever so like. mmmh

Yeah, probably. What do you think of hk last post? I think I really didnt like their approach irt to some stuff but posts like that or them talking to Jack in EoD 2 looks better in hindsight?
So I think that if we are all town we are going to lose if we dont do something rn. And if one of us is scum is going to likely be yeeted anyways so focusing on solving like this is kinda +ev in my mind regardless

[santygrass]

Also agree with no reconsidering in sabi