Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]

[DharmaHelper]

Hello scotty would you like to play a game of snap with me.

Is that the one where we lick each other in the balls as hard as we can until someone yells mercy?

I am dying.

no i am

[Scotty]

Hello scotty would you like to play a game of snap with me.

Is that the one where we lick each other in the balls as hard as we can until someone yells mercy?

I am dying.

no i am

Pretty heavy handed.

Why on Earth would mafia kill you right now? You’re prime miselim material if you’re town

[Scotty]

@Golden you still down to snap? You can be a Jet, I’ll be a Shark

[Kate]

Hello scotty would you like to play a game of snap with me.

Is that the one where we lick each other in the balls as hard as we can until someone yells mercy?

I am dying.

no i am

Pretty heavy handed.

Why on Earth would mafia kill you right now? You’re prime miselim material if you’re town

The ONLY way he is killed at night right now is if his own team sacrifices him to distance themselves from him. This is an idea I wouldn't even have considered in my previous games however, if you can win while dead, then why not?

[Sloonei]

Hello scotty would you like to play a game of snap with me.

Is that the one where we lick each other in the balls as hard as we can until someone yells mercy?

I am dying.

no i am

Pretty heavy handed.

Why on Earth would mafia kill you right now? You’re prime miselim material if you’re town

The ONLY way he is killed at night right now is if his own team sacrifices him to distance themselves from him. This is an idea I wouldn't even have considered in my previous games however, if you can win while dead, then why not?

I was gonna wait til right before the deadline to suggest this theory.

[Golden]

Hello scotty would you like to play a game of snap with me.

Is that the one where we lick each other in the balls as hard as we can until someone yells mercy?

I am dying.

no i am

Pretty heavy handed.

Why on Earth would mafia kill you right now? You’re prime miselim material if you’re town

The ONLY way he is killed at night right now is if his own team sacrifices him to distance themselves from him. This is an idea I wouldn't even have considered in my previous games however, if you can win while dead, then why not?

In a world with a known “rez please” role for people who haven’t flipped only, I think there is reason to be careful with who is rezzed

[G-Man]

Variations on a Read List, Part 1
by G-Man

When I left off, I was trying to form a towncore. What I was left with sucks, even for a starter kit:

Towncore:

-bea
-thellama73

That's it, and it is so not adequate enough for this stage of the game. I like the looseness of Llama's play. He gets a little more serious when it matters, but he never gets too srsbsnss to the point that it feels forced. Bea's return to the game had a very good look to it. She spent a day with a posting quirk but her return shows that she didn't just use that as an excuse to take a day off. She showed that she was paying attention. I would expect a baddie at her prior level of activity to use that quirk to coast and just come back apologetic about checking out for too long.

I'd like to take this time to add to the conversation that my initial hunch on Bea's posting quirk had something to do with one of the Socky awards. The Socky has a few awards at their disposal, but we don't know what they do. My guess is that this role is like a Jack of All Trades and has a quiver of 1-shot power uses. The likeliest match would be Best Gambit. We won't know for sure until endgame though. It certainly could be the Vomp role, but I guess LoRab's death means we won't be getting anything more than E out of those tildes.



Civ-Leans:

-Eloh
-Golden
-Scotty
-Sloonei

I still feel like the suspicion of Eloh was overblown on D1. There was some speculation later about a townslip but I have to read back more for that. The other three all sound so darn supatown but I have to confess that I can't keep them straight in my head when reading the thread. ISO's will help. I don't know if it's a processing issue on my brain's part, but all their super-sleuthing voices run together in my head. It is frustrating and I don't know how to break myself of it. It happens in just about every game that I play- voices just merge in my head and I struggle to distinguish them as individuals. ISO'ing these folks is no picnic either, as they have posted an outsized share of the game thread. I still maintain that there's bound to be a baddie among the most talkative players. There almost always is. Otherwise the talkative players would eventually harmonize and the poe becomes simpler. Maybe there's more to distinguish them since this morning.

[Golden]

@Golden you still down to snap? You can be a Jet, I’ll be a Shark

I’ve got about three minutes to play snap. Whatcha thinking?

[Scotty]

@Golden you still down to snap? You can be a Jet, I’ll be a Shark

I’ve got about three minutes to play snap. Whatcha thinking?

I legit don’t know what snap is

[Sloonei]

@G-Man DFaraday had the same posting curse as bea yesterday, if that changes your theory at all.

[Golden]

@Golden you still down to snap? You can be a Jet, I’ll be a Shark

I’ve got about three minutes to play snap. Whatcha thinking?

I legit don’t know what snap is

This is definitely a scumtell, no one doesn’t know what snap is surely.

(I said it because we posted the same thing at the same time).

[Scotty]

DFaraday and bea were the only ones that didn’t vote D1

[Quin]

FYI it took two days of being on the chopping block for Sloonei to ask literally anything of me.

Do you not believe that I could be reading you as town right now?

I think my issue is mostly that you're pretty much the only person vouching for me, which is a really easy stance for scum to take when there's a very vocal wagon adjacent to it. What I need you to be doing is developing your other reads so that you're offering something actionable and not just a token read of me. I know you have been doing this throughout the night so I'll get to those posts when I can.

If anyone was worried, medical emergency stuff is under control. Not good stuff for the morbidly curious:

Spoiler: show

Nan had a UTI that went septic and spread to her heart, so she had a heart episode at home. She's now at the hospital on antibiotics and under close watch. She is furious because she doesn't like hospitals.

[Scotty]

Hello scotty would you like to play a game of snap with me.

Is that the one where we lick each other in the balls as hard as we can until someone yells mercy?

I am dying.

no i am

Pretty heavy handed.

Why on Earth would mafia kill you right now? You’re prime miselim material if you’re town

The ONLY way he is killed at night right now is if his own team sacrifices him to distance themselves from him. This is an idea I wouldn't even have considered in my previous games however, if you can win while dead, then why not?

[Scotty]

FYI it took two days of being on the chopping block for Sloonei to ask literally anything of me.

Do you not believe that I could be reading you as town right now?

I think my issue is mostly that you're pretty much the only person vouching for me, which is a really easy stance for scum to take when there's a very vocal wagon adjacent to it. What I need you to be doing is developing your other reads so that you're offering something actionable and not just a token read of me. I know you have been doing this throughout the night so I'll get to those posts when I can.

If anyone was worried, medical emergency stuff is under control. Not good stuff for the morbidly curious:

Spoiler: show

Nan had a UTI that went septic and spread to her heart, so she had a heart episode at home. She's now at the hospital on antibiotics and under close watch. She is furious because she doesn't like hospitals.

oh my god Quin that’s awful. Glad she’s stable it sounds like

[Sloonei]

DFaraday and bea were the only ones that didn’t vote D1

Ah

[Scotty]

@Golden you still down to snap? You can be a Jet, I’ll be a Shark

I’ve got about three minutes to play snap. Whatcha thinking?

I legit don’t know what snap is

This is definitely a scumtell, no one doesn’t know what snap is surely.

(I said it because we posted the same thing at the same time).

*throws a fire cracker at Golden’s feet*

PURPLE

*runs away*

[Sloonei]

FYI it took two days of being on the chopping block for Sloonei to ask literally anything of me.

Do you not believe that I could be reading you as town right now?

I think my issue is mostly that you're pretty much the only person vouching for me, which is a really easy stance for scum to take when there's a very vocal wagon adjacent to it. What I need you to be doing is developing your other reads so that you're offering something actionable and not just a token read of me. I know you have been doing this throughout the night so I'll get to those posts when I can.

If anyone was worried, medical emergency stuff is under control. Not good stuff for the morbidly curious:

Spoiler: show

Nan had a UTI that went septic and spread to her heart, so she had a heart episode at home. She's now at the hospital on antibiotics and under close watch. She is furious because she doesn't like hospitals.

Let’s talk about the other side of this coin.

I have been the only one vouching for you. What do you think of the heavy pressure you’ve been under?

[Sloonei]

(i have no idea what snap is)

[DharmaHelper]

Hello scotty would you like to play a game of snap with me.

Is that the one where we lick each other in the balls as hard as we can until someone yells mercy?

I am dying.

no i am

Pretty heavy handed.

Why on Earth would mafia kill you right now? You’re prime miselim material if you’re town

The ONLY way he is killed at night right now is if his own team sacrifices him to distance themselves from him. This is an idea I wouldn't even have considered in my previous games however, if you can win while dead, then why not?

In a world with a known “rez please” role for people who haven’t flipped only, I think there is reason to be careful with who is rezzed

i'm quoting golden but addressing the whole of this discussion when i say i bet a dh who wasn't completely disenchanted with playing this game would have something to say about this discussion.

[Golden]

@Golden you still down to snap? You can be a Jet, I’ll be a Shark

I’ve got about three minutes to play snap. Whatcha thinking?

I legit don’t know what snap is

This is definitely a scumtell, no one doesn’t know what snap is surely.

(I said it because we posted the same thing at the same time).

*throws a fire cracker at Golden’s feet*

PURPLE

*runs away*

OUCH

[Scotty]

Variations on a Read List, Part 1
by G-Man

When I left off, I was trying to form a towncore. What I was left with sucks, even for a starter kit:

Towncore:

-bea
-thellama73

That's it, and it is so not adequate enough for this stage of the game. I like the looseness of Llama's play. He gets a little more serious when it matters, but he never gets too srsbsnss to the point that it feels forced. Bea's return to the game had a very good look to it. She spent a day with a posting quirk but her return shows that she didn't just use that as an excuse to take a day off. She showed that she was paying attention. I would expect a baddie at her prior level of activity to use that quirk to coast and just come back apologetic about checking out for too long.

I'd like to take this time to add to the conversation that my initial hunch on Bea's posting quirk had something to do with one of the Socky awards. The Socky has a few awards at their disposal, but we don't know what they do. My guess is that this role is like a Jack of All Trades and has a quiver of 1-shot power uses. The likeliest match would be Best Gambit. We won't know for sure until endgame though. It certainly could be the Vomp role, but I guess LoRab's death means we won't be getting anything more than E out of those tildes.



Civ-Leans:

-Eloh
-Golden
-Scotty
-Sloonei

I still feel like the suspicion of Eloh was overblown on D1. There was some speculation later about a townslip but I have to read back more for that. The other three all sound so darn supatown but I have to confess that I can't keep them straight in my head when reading the thread. ISO's will help. I don't know if it's a processing issue on my brain's part, but all their super-sleuthing voices run together in my head. It is frustrating and I don't know how to break myself of it. It happens in just about every game that I play- voices just merge in my head and I struggle to distinguish them as individuals. ISO'ing these folks is no picnic either, as they have posted an outsized share of the game thread. I still maintain that there's bound to be a baddie among the most talkative players. There almost always is. Otherwise the talkative players would eventually harmonize and the poe becomes simpler. Maybe there's more to distinguish them since this morning.

Don’t worry, Golden’s got it figured out.
Good take. I agree.

Until we successfully find a baddie, I’m inclined to continue thinking the thread is being steered into miseliminations.

[Golden]

You know what?

Let’s just end with the sarcastic digs at golden eh? Is that too much to ask?

[Golden]

The sockys ability obviously has no tildes and is unsolvable, except to the extent you’re targeted and can learn something from that.

[Scotty]

Is that the one where we lick each other in the balls as hard as we can until someone yells mercy?

I am dying.

no i am

Pretty heavy handed.

Why on Earth would mafia kill you right now? You’re prime miselim material if you’re town

The ONLY way he is killed at night right now is if his own team sacrifices him to distance themselves from him. This is an idea I wouldn't even have considered in my previous games however, if you can win while dead, then why not?

In a world with a known “rez please” role for people who haven’t flipped only, I think there is reason to be careful with who is rezzed

i'm quoting golden but addressing the whole of this discussion when i say i bet a dh who wasn't completely disenchanted with playing this game would have something to say about this discussion.

Do you want out of this game? Are you disenchanted, hence voting for yourself for most of the past hour yesterday?

[Golden]

Scotty, gut instinct, is DH gonna be NKed tonight?

[Scotty]

Probably a good idea to make a legacy rainbow.


Elo
Kate
thellama73
bea
Vivax2.0
Golden
DH
Sloonei
GMan
Michelle
sig
DFaraday
DrWilgy
Quin

[Scotty]

Scotty, gut instinct, is DH gonna be NKed tonight?

hell no

[DharmaHelper]

You know what?

Let’s just end with the sarcastic digs at golden eh? Is that too much to ask?

i'm not digging at you.

[DharmaHelper]

I am dying.

no i am

Pretty heavy handed.

Why on Earth would mafia kill you right now? You’re prime miselim material if you’re town

The ONLY way he is killed at night right now is if his own team sacrifices him to distance themselves from him. This is an idea I wouldn't even have considered in my previous games however, if you can win while dead, then why not?

In a world with a known “rez please” role for people who haven’t flipped only, I think there is reason to be careful with who is rezzed

i'm quoting golden but addressing the whole of this discussion when i say i bet a dh who wasn't completely disenchanted with playing this game would have something to say about this discussion.

Do you want out of this game?

i'm close.

[Scotty]

You know what?

Let’s just end with the sarcastic digs at golden eh? Is that too much to ask?

i'm not digging at you.

He was talking to me.

We’re not always talking about you

Because we’re always talking about me. I am the Queen

[Quin]

I don't have enough time to dig through Day 2 ISO's, so these are at-a-glance notes on the poll:

- Kate's DH vote is an OMGUS. Night 2 posts scream 'not teammates'.
- DH's DH vote is DH. DH. DH. DH's DH DH. Potential NP candidate with a flair for the dramatic.

- Sloonei's LoRab vote justified with it "making more sense", immediately after Wilgy switches to me. What made more sense?
- G-Man's LoRab vote gave the Moderator power over the lynch before Wilgy's switcheroo. Can't read alignment off this, but pretty awful reasoning.

- llama votes Quin and is the anti-Sloonei. Sloonei says I'm good regardless of what llama says. llama says I'm bad regardless of what Sloonei says. Definitely not temmies, unless the point is to keep me in the forefront as a failsafe if a different teammate gets too much heat.
- Wilgy votes Quin because ???. He also discourages ties. But Wilgy loves ties, it is know-en. Licks.

- sig didn't vote. His last post says "we should be looking out for those who don't vote as the NP target". Potential NP target.

Outcomes of this are that either sig or DH was the NP target, Wilgy looks worse, G-Man has earned greater attention from me, there is Kate/DH and llama/Sloonei spaghetti to be untangled, but up to 2 mafia in that lot.

[Quin]

FYI it took two days of being on the chopping block for Sloonei to ask literally anything of me.

Do you not believe that I could be reading you as town right now?

I think my issue is mostly that you're pretty much the only person vouching for me, which is a really easy stance for scum to take when there's a very vocal wagon adjacent to it. What I need you to be doing is developing your other reads so that you're offering something actionable and not just a token read of me. I know you have been doing this throughout the night so I'll get to those posts when I can.

If anyone was worried, medical emergency stuff is under control. Not good stuff for the morbidly curious:

Spoiler: show

Nan had a UTI that went septic and spread to her heart, so she had a heart episode at home. She's now at the hospital on antibiotics and under close watch. She is furious because she doesn't like hospitals.

Let’s talk about the other side of this coin.

I have been the only one vouching for you. What do you think of the heavy pressure you’ve been under?

Any read based on my posts lacking substance or founded on nothing can kiss my ass. The only thing that's probably valid is whoever mentioned that I'm not trying to jump down people's throats in this game which is absolutely something I am used to doing. My simple answer to that is that I don't want to.

[G-Man]

Variations on a Read List, Part 1
by G-Man

Inconclusive (But Not Necessarily in a Bad Way):
-DharmaHelper
-DrWilgy
-Quin

DH is a stone's throw away from the trio I just talked about. I always auto-sussed him due to his tone and a string of evil victories in the past, but that makes him mis-chop bait and I try to temper that. I'd like to ISO him first of all the big talkers. I was more comfortable voting for LoRab (sorry again for tying that vote up) because DH had his head in the game and at that point it would have been worse to lose DH as a civ player trying to break the game than to lose LoRab who hadn't contributed much by that point. DH can be a force and I want to see if I can determine if he is a force for good or evil.

Wilgy's lick thing was amusing and he continues to come across as harmless. His ISO will be helpful in showing me if he has contributed to game-solving at all today. That's going to become more important. Day 3 will start with us at 10 vs 4 since the 3P is dead. There's a little margin for error on D3, but we need folks to step it up or else the tension will mount and we run the risk of desperation mistakes on a D4 that's 8 vs 4.

Quin's voice is out there, but it's gotten lost for me in the sea of DH-Golden-Scotty-Sloonei content. I don't love that. I know Quin is capable of a slick baddie game, but I also don't remember feeling too cautious about him early on. I need to ISO him early as well. He's another one who can step things up when the game requires it, and the game is going to require it here soon.



Inconclusive (But Not Necessarily in a Good Way):
-Kate
-Michelle
-sig

Unlike Bea, Kate came back after a posting restriction and wasn't able to get her head in the game in a good way. I understand it's been forever since she's played and that can be a tough adjustment. Attitudes and personalities can make it even harder. But I didn't see much initially that suggested she was following the game with the intent of jumping right back into the fray. Granted, she seems to have been targeted by the baddie team with the OT Green posting, so maybe I shouldn't be as concerned with her. I hear the WIFOM argument of the baddies OT'ing a teammate, but on Night 1? It feels like a stretch to me.

Michelle's got content, but I still feel so blank to it. It's not meaty or fluffy. It just evaporates in my mind. Has she posted anything to chew on since this morning?

Sig is kind of the same way for me. There's content, but I remember none of it (except the in-joke stuff about him always getting chopped to early). I don't like forgetting about people by the end of D2.


Still a Null Read (And That Needs To Change)
-DFaraday
-VivAxe

Note- this category is not the bad list. It's just null, existing outside of reads and vibes.

DF hasn't posted much at all. As with LoRab, I'm not in good standing to bash low-posters, but it's troublesome for me. I can't get a read on you if you don't post. I think we have better points of discussion that are active right now, but I hate that lingering concern about a low-participation player becoming an easy target if we screw up D3 and get desperate.

VivAxe is still tricky for me. I tend to just shrug Axe off on D1's, so his departure leaves me with a day of nothingness on that slot. Vivax replaced in, but Vivax is new to me, so that compounds the nullness of it all. An ISO of D2 content should help move VivAxe into another category.

[G-Man]

@G-Man DFaraday had the same posting curse as bea yesterday, if that changes your theory at all.

Valuable information there. I didn't catch that. Lemme go check. It's not like his ISO will take long.

[Scotty]

I don't have enough time to dig through Day 2 ISO's, so these are at-a-glance notes on the poll:

- Kate's DH vote is an OMGUS. Night 2 posts scream 'not teammates'.
- DH's DH vote is DH. DH. DH. DH's DH DH. Potential NP candidate with a flair for the dramatic.

- Sloonei's LoRab vote justified with it "making more sense", immediately after Wilgy switches to me. What made more sense?
- G-Man's LoRab vote gave the Moderator power over the lynch before Wilgy's switcheroo. Can't read alignment off this, but pretty awful reasoning.

- llama votes Quin and is the anti-Sloonei. Sloonei says I'm good regardless of what llama says. llama says I'm bad regardless of what Sloonei says. Definitely not temmies, unless the point is to keep me in the forefront as a failsafe if a different teammate gets too much heat.
- Wilgy votes Quin because ???. He also discourages ties. But Wilgy loves ties, it is know-en. Licks.

- sig didn't vote. His last post says "we should be looking out for those who don't vote as the NP target". Potential NP target.

Outcomes of this are that either sig or DH was the NP target, Wilgy looks worse, G-Man has earned greater attention from me, there is Kate/DH and llama/Sloonei spaghetti to be untangled, but up to 2 mafia in that lot.

This is the best post you’ve made all game

[Scotty]

I can see a Wilgy/GMan pairing

[Scotty]

I’m
Bumping
GMan
Down
To
Low
Mafia
Tier

[Quin]

I can see a Wilgy/GMan pairing

How?

[Scotty]

I’ve got 10 minutes just in case.

Michelle is a slot that had a pretty harmless D1- not too nosy, slightly blendy. I know she’s traveling, and I liked her vibe, but content is rather surface level. She isn’t a strong town read

[Scotty]

I can see a Wilgy/GMan pairing

How?

Reading as I see it.
“Wilgy's lick thing was amusing and he continues to come across as harmless. His ISO will be helpful in showing me if he has contributed to game-solving at all today. That's going to become more important. Day 3 will start with us at 10 vs 4 since the 3P is dead. There's a little margin for error on D3, but we need folks to step it up or else the tension will mount and we run the risk of desperation mistakes on a D4 that's 8 vs 4.”

This read is wedged in his ‘inconclusive but not in a bad way’ . The second half of this explanation has nothing to do with Wilgy. The first half says nothing except he needs to look further at the ISO and Wilgy comes off as harmless.

Coming off as harmless is a red flag

[Scotty]

Ugh, I can say the same thing about his read of Michelle and sig. GMan’s recent posts need some scrutiny and I’m not sure I’m going to get the chance

[Scotty]

Arf ARF

[Scotty]

sig is a slot that has been echoing most things as I think them. We have been continually coming to the same conclusions (or the semblance of such) but he has done so via his own route.

If all my reads are wrong, he needs a thorough sponge bath with radium

[Scotty]

Vivax2.0 has posted sparingly but I’ve liked what they’ve said. They hammered in some questions to bea that also made me like the vibe. It’s definitely a vibe thing and I have good feelings about them

[Scotty]

Currently suspecting or at least have on the forefront to explore today in no order : GMan/Wilgy/sig/Michelle

[G-Man]

I can see a Wilgy/GMan pairing

How?

Reading as I see it.
“Wilgy's lick thing was amusing and he continues to come across as harmless. His ISO will be helpful in showing me if he has contributed to game-solving at all today. That's going to become more important. Day 3 will start with us at 10 vs 4 since the 3P is dead. There's a little margin for error on D3, but we need folks to step it up or else the tension will mount and we run the risk of desperation mistakes on a D4 that's 8 vs 4.”

This read is wedged in his ‘inconclusive but not in a bad way’ . The second half of this explanation has nothing to do with Wilgy. The first half says nothing except he needs to look further at the ISO and Wilgy comes off as harmless.

Coming off as harmless is a red flag

Ugh, I can say the same thing about his read of Michelle and sig. GMan’s recent posts need some scrutiny and I’m not sure I’m going to get the chance

Vague they are, I know. I am still reading through the content from the afternoon. I'll get my head in the game. Thank God it's the weekend.

[Quin]

I don't remember what the rules are for discussing 2.0 replacements 1.0 roles, so I won't.

Vivax 2.0 looks stellar to me though.

[Spacedaisy]

The thread is now locked. Admins and Mods, please don't post until we announce the thread is open again.

[Epignosis]

After discovering that Rorschach was really Gilbert Gottfried- a revelation no one saw coming- another mystery man approached the confused remaining citizens of New Syndicate. He sat down at an outdoor bar and made himself comfortable.

“Jack Daniel’s please,” he said and reclined. His tan suit was cool, but his eyes looked strange, as though one of them wasn’t real.

“Today’s not your day,” he said and sipped his Jack. Then he laughed. “It isn’t my day either.”

He drank some more and finally announced, “Anyway, I’m sorry about your loss. He was truly exceptional. You might say he ruled.”

Everyone looked. Some were doing quick counts.

“What loss?” Gilbert Gottfried asked.

“That one,” Mr. Wednesday said, pointing to a person explaining vehemently to a stranger how “Free parking on Sunday” is really the exception that proves the rule rather than how people indiscriminately and frivolously use the expression, “the exception that proves the rule.”

A semi-truck slashed through him and kept going.

“That’s the Peterbilt that proves the feeble-built,” Mr. Wednesday said. "Can I have another?" he asked, shaking his empty glass.

Spoiler: show

thellama73 has been killed. It is now Day 3. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.