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Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:49 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Ok boomer
Go back to patton
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:49 pm
by Long Con
I don't know what that means.
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:49 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Hello I am here to escape from figuring out why space is necessary for experience but I see fighting and there will be no fighting in my town core. LC stop being wrong
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:49 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
And Nanook stop idk
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:50 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Maybe I’ll just sheep TSP’s reads
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:50 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
TSP what are your reads
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:51 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Ash/Wilgy/(112)?
Apparently Michelle and Ash are anti aligned so that went poorly.
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:51 pm
by Long Con
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:49 pm
Hello I am here to escape from figuring out why space is necessary for experience but I see fighting and there will be no fighting in my town core. LC stop being wrong
WHY AM I WRONG AND NOT JUST SCUM
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:52 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Two of those are in my POE so I’ll roll with it
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:58 pm
by Arete
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:39 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:37 pm
i'll believe it, but if they don't get townier and we haven't hit woofs, they're walking the plank
i think you kind of glossed over my points, which is pretty meh. You say they had no agenda and I literally tell you what the agenda was and you're still like "nah"
just don't ignore reasoning for arrogance that you can own her is all. If you have actual reasons to believe she's town here, then that's fine.
[VOTE:
DrWilgy ] aubergine
I find it very difficult to articulate a soulread. I'm really just bullshitting reasoning, because I don't know.
I see your points, and my brain is like "but Arete's still town. Ding dong. You are wrong."
But I obviously have to explain myself, so I invent something that makes at least SOME sense to me.
this post was written by a villager
like, the bolded is Peak town!Vul phrasing
(no, I don't just think that because it's "pro-Arete" :wowee:)
Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:15 am
by DrWilgy
Hally wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:13 pm
@DrWilgy is there any way at all i could move you to do... anything? because otherwise you’re just going to be eliminated, which will be very sad if you’re town and could have prevented it by posting
You could not eliminate me?
Idk.
Will have time tomorrow to do more than shitpost.
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 0]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:16 am
by DrWilgy
Hally wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:29 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:33 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:55 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:34 pm
Hmm...
Hello.
I'm a doctor.
Provide memes.
town
Scum
im probably reading too much into it but this interaction pinged me as possibly w/w. why is wilgy calling tony scum for saying he’s town? was this a serious read and if so wheres the follow up/why does wilgy seem happy to just vote where tony tells him the rest of the phase. idk maybe wilgy wouldn’t actually be like “tony tell me where to vote” if they’re teamed though
Wouldn't be the 1st time I've done that with a teammate.
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 1]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:16 am
by DrWilgy
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:44 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:52 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:46 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:42 am
i really hate saying stuff like this but i feel i have to put my foot down and say that i absolutely refuse to allow a nook wagon to happen. @DrWilgy @Long Con you should move. nook is town
Kay
you're not helpful
Want me to vote 112?
also this is the only post ash can possibly be referring to?
Whatchu mean by this?
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 1]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:18 am
by Ash Lael
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:16 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:44 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:52 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:46 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:42 am
i really hate saying stuff like this but i feel i have to put my foot down and say that i absolutely refuse to allow a nook wagon to happen. @DrWilgy @Long Con you should move. nook is town
Kay
you're not helpful
Want me to vote 112?
also this is the only post ash can possibly be referring to?
Whatchu mean by this?
I’m saying you’re not a partner to Tony off that post.
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:18 am
by DrWilgy
BTW there's no reason why my "Let's yeet trip" should've actually took off amd taken the lead.
Id be bamboozled if TSP wasn't saved there.
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 1]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:18 am
by DrWilgy
Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:18 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:16 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:44 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:52 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:46 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:42 am
i really hate saying stuff like this but i feel i have to put my foot down and say that i absolutely refuse to allow a nook wagon to happen. @DrWilgy @Long Con you should move. nook is town
Kay
you're not helpful
Want me to vote 112?
also this is the only post ash can possibly be referring to?
Whatchu mean by this?
I’m saying you’re not a partner to Tony off that post.
I see.
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:19 am
by Ash Lael
I don’t know if that read is strengthened or diminished by Wilgy coming in and saying “No I can totally be Tony’s partner.”
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:20 am
by DrWilgy
Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:19 am
I don’t know if that read is strengthened or diminished by Wilgy coming in and saying “No I can totally be Tony’s partner.”
Just tellin the truth to someone who may not know my meta. I've done some stupid shit as scum.
Ash, what's your hot take rn regarding Hally and Nanook?
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:21 am
by Ash Lael
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:20 am
Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:19 am
I don’t know if that read is strengthened or diminished by Wilgy coming in and saying “No I can totally be Tony’s partner.”
Just tellin the truth to someone who may not know my meta. I've done some stupid shit as scum.
Ash, what's your hot take rn regarding Hally and Nanook?
Nook town, Hally also town except in some tinfoil worlds I’m not prepared to seriously entertain right now.
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:22 am
by Long Con
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:18 am
BTW there's no reason why my "Let's yeet trip" should've actually took off amd taken the lead.
Id be bamboozled if TSP wasn't saved there.
Who was saving him?
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:24 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I think Hally just lock town atp
If she’s mafia it’s probably with LC based on that pushing me off LC just now/trying to mediate/peacekeep
But if she’s mafia with LC I don’t think she comes in pushing him
So she’s probably just town
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:24 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I mean there were already a bunch of reasons to think she’s town but
This is another one
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:24 am
by Arete
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:08 pm
Again, I'm not scumreading TSP for meming too much, that's not the...
Forget it. I don't think anyone actually read my case so far. Or I wrote it really poorly.
I read your case and I, like, appreciate the work you put into it
it just had a lot of words and my brain doesn't really want to process words right now
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:28 am
by DrWilgy
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:22 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:18 am
BTW there's no reason why my "Let's yeet trip" should've actually took off amd taken the lead.
Id be bamboozled if TSP wasn't saved there.
Who was saving him?
Idk 80% Hally
20% Nook
20% Arete
I would like to know why Hally is locktown. I felt the indecision regarding yesterday was a scum mindset, BUT Hally is one of the few going out of their way to bring me into the game. Idk if scum does that.
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:28 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Expecting every town to come into a game the way you do or think they should isn’t usually going to be particularly accurate
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:29 am
by Ash Lael
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:24 am
I think Hally just lock town atp
If she’s mafia it’s probably with LC based on that pushing me off LC just now/trying to mediate/peacekeep
But if she’s mafia with LC I don’t think she comes in pushing him
So she’s probably just town
I don’t see why “push your partner then re-evaluate and find them town” is an unlikely scum strategy.
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:32 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:29 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:24 am
I think Hally just lock town atp
If she’s mafia it’s probably with LC based on that pushing me off LC just now/trying to mediate/peacekeep
But if she’s mafia with LC I don’t think she comes in pushing him
So she’s probably just town
I don’t see why “push your partner then re-evaluate and find them town” is an unlikely scum strategy.
My impression of hally’s scum game is that she prefers to either bus partners or defend them, coming into the day saying “wilgy for sure,” changing to “LC for sure,” then bouncing off him...if/when LC eventually flips, if he flips red Hally gets no credit from this, and doesn’t get WIFOM from “does mafia hard defend their partner?” either.
Basically I think if she and LC are partners she would’ve positioned herself better/differently to him than she did
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:39 am
by Arete
Hally wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:47 pm
you’re probably both town
who are the wolves
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:04 am
by Long Con
I think it's in Hally's personality to peacekeep, and that in itself is probably NAI.
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:18 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:51 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:49 pm
Hello I am here to escape from figuring out why space is necessary for experience but I see fighting and there will be no fighting in my town core. LC stop being wrong
WHY AM I WRONG AND NOT JUST SCUM
For the same reason I locked you as town in the first place, melodrama
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:20 am
by Poison
hi
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:24 am
by Poison
actually I'll be back later.
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:27 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Okay to clarify from vul’s wall in the section on 2036, I wasn’t saying that I thought tutuu and Dunya were of the same alignment but rather that I thought that they read similarly, as people who perhaps weren’t giving an energy you’d expect from them as town and had a bad thread position but with some bursts of towniness
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:27 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Also Vul’s wall is long
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:28 am
by Long Con
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:18 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:51 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:49 pm
Hello I am here to escape from figuring out why space is necessary for experience but I see fighting and there will be no fighting in my town core. LC stop being wrong
WHY AM I WRONG AND NOT JUST SCUM
For the same reason I locked you as town in the first place, melodrama
Do you think Nanook and I will make it into the accepted Town core?
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:44 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I’m already in the accepted towncore

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 0]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:50 am
by Long Con
So I was just going through Nanook's ISO (sorry Nanook) and I thought that this line was a thing of absolute beauty.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:33 am
So this is the third game in a row she’s claimed not-town, and the second time it’s funny
He hit that shit just right. Magnifique.
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:55 am
by tedxtr
[VOTE:
Ash Lael ] aubergine
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:55 am
by Michelle
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:12 pm
TSP has been accused of not pushing anyone, so TSP presents the preceding singular vote count as evidence:
The only viable mafia team based on assuming reasonable day 1 vote counts is exactly michelle / ash / wilgy.
Any of these three are acceptable chops.
"oh look he said the words is this player salad"
no
Are you usually make the vote analysis a solid reason to make a whole team guess?
I am not an acceptable chop, what makes me as such?
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:57 am
by Michelle
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:04 am
I think it's in Hally's personality to peacekeep, and that in itself is probably NAI.
Is AI when is over a number of posts, and here it is
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:01 am
by Long Con
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:57 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:04 am
I think it's in Hally's personality to peacekeep, and that in itself is probably NAI.
Is AI when is over a number of posts, and here it is
Interesting, I'll need some more explanation of that theory before I adopt it into my beliefs.
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:02 am
by Ash Lael
What is happening? Why am I lead wagon?
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:06 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Tbh if I’m wrong in one of my TRs you’re the most likely place I’d be wrong so
I don’t really like it still tho
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:09 am
by Michelle
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:01 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:57 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:04 am
I think it's in Hally's personality to peacekeep, and that in itself is probably NAI.
Is AI when is over a number of posts, and here it is
Interesting, I'll need some more explanation of that theory before I adopt it into my beliefs.
I was wolf against town Hally and she posted a lot, interacting with everyone, and made other villagers suspecting her because she changed her reads often and accused almost everyone.
I was wolf with Hally and i saw her pushing a narrativefocysed on it. She Post count was less, thread entrance late.
Both games at MU, one is Pokemon and Nic Cage hosted by Roro and the other is Champs finale.
From my pov we have in this game town Hally
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:22 am
by Long Con
I don't see how either of those examples connect to how alignment-indicative Hally's peacekeeping is. Are you saying she would only peacekeep if she were posting a lot, and interacting with everyone?
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:33 am
by Michelle
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:22 am
I don't see how either of those examples connect to how alignment-indicative Hally's peacekeeping is. Are you saying she would only peacekeep if she were posting a lot, and interacting with everyone?
Explain for me 'peacekeep' pls
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:54 am
by Arete
can someone walk me through the case on Ash
like I know this is uncharitable but I feel like a lot of the case on him is more from people disagreeing with his reads (some of this is being expressed as thinking that his solving process is ungenuine, but most of the evidence I've seen people give for that is more 'thinking the reasoning behind his reads is bad' rather than 'thinking the reasoning behind his reads is wolfy')
from what I've seen of him he's at the very least had a lot of conviction behind his reads, and I think it's relatively unlikely that an inexperienced wolf would be able to fake that much Believing In Their Reads
but maybe I'm just missing something ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:14 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:28 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:18 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:51 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:49 pm
Hello I am here to escape from figuring out why space is necessary for experience but I see fighting and there will be no fighting in my town core. LC stop being wrong
WHY AM I WRONG AND NOT JUST SCUM
For the same reason I locked you as town in the first place, melodrama
Do you think Nanook and I will make it into the accepted Town core?
yes I have accepted you
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:16 am
by Vulgard
I don't understand the Ash wagon, either. I'm not sure what's stopping people from voting TSP at this point. "Because he memes as town as well." I know that. I even addressed that in my case. That's not the reason I scumread him.
Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:16 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:55 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:12 pm
TSP has been accused of not pushing anyone, so TSP presents the preceding singular vote count as evidence:
The only viable mafia team based on assuming reasonable day 1 vote counts is exactly michelle / ash / wilgy.
Any of these three are acceptable chops.
"oh look he said the words is this player salad"
no
Are you usually make the vote analysis a solid reason to make a whole team guess?
I am not an acceptable chop, what makes me as such?
vote analysis is just a starting point here. You are, based on principles, the least "acceptable chop". But I posit that it is likely that there is at least one wolf on both of the main wagons, and in combination with an established town core leaves very few names. Given this limitation, the third team member remains unknown.