The Syndicate

Matt wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:@Matt i want to see Wilgy and Sorsha lynched and see if MM maintains his suspicion on either of them before I can say whether I'd support an MM lynch.

Hrm.

I know you're going to think I'm teammates with Sorsha still, but I really do think you're off base with her and kinda wish you'd stop. But regardless, I think I'll be voting Wilgy tomorrow. I was more suss of Drac, but since we already had one civvie (3J) who could survive a kill, I'm thinking you're right on Wiggles.

If I die tonight, tho, I really hope MM isn't forgotten. Please do not forget him peeps.

@Rico, lulz at Hypothesis 11

DrWilgy wrote:Rico, have your thoughts on me shifted at all? Are there any questions insights or concerns?

Ricochet wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Rico, have your thoughts on me shifted at all? Are there any questions insights or concerns?

Thinking about it. The role's presence is plausible. Whether you actually have it... dunno.

DharmaHelper wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Did I out myself? What was my definitive outing?

When Sorsha flipped on you for an innocuous post that only mention her in passing. Sorsha's doing, not mine.
When your reaction to that flip was "Relaxxxxx...." Yeah, because I thought I upset her and didn't mean to. Besides if I were telling a teammate to chill in the main thread vs. BTSC what sense would that make?
When the pair of you ping ponged between "painfully obvious distancing" and supporting each other See the point above.
When you crafted that bullshit post without checking any of your facts. And I was incorrect. You showed me that. Isn't that the point of the game? Make cases, judge info based on what you know and discuss? I don't see how me being incorrect is alignment indicative.

You are bad. You did that to yourself.

DrWilgy wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Did I out myself? What was my definitive outing?

When Sorsha flipped on you for an innocuous post that only mention her in passing. Sorsha's doing, not mine.
When your reaction to that flip was "Relaxxxxx...." Yeah, because I thought I upset her and didn't mean to. Besides if I were telling a teammate to chill in the main thread vs. BTSC what sense would that make?
When the pair of you ping ponged between "painfully obvious distancing" and supporting each other See the point above.
When you crafted that bullshit post without checking any of your facts. And I was incorrect. You showed me that. Isn't that the point of the game? Make cases, judge info based on what you know and discuss? I don't see how me being incorrect is alignment indicative.

You are bad. You did that to yourself.

@Rico, look at LC's interactions with me after JJJ was spared. What would LC know about me, that no one else would, that would cause that reaction after someone who he thought was bad was spared?

DharmaHelper wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Did I out myself? What was my definitive outing?

When Sorsha flipped on you for an innocuous post that only mention her in passing. Sorsha's doing, not mine.
When your reaction to that flip was "Relaxxxxx...." Yeah, because I thought I upset her and didn't mean to. Besides if I were telling a teammate to chill in the main thread vs. BTSC what sense would that make?
When the pair of you ping ponged between "painfully obvious distancing" and supporting each other See the point above.
When you crafted that bullshit post without checking any of your facts. And I was incorrect. You showed me that. Isn't that the point of the game? Make cases, judge info based on what you know and discuss? I don't see how me being incorrect is alignment indicative.

You are bad. You did that to yourself.

@Rico, look at LC's interactions with me after JJJ was spared. What would LC know about me, that no one else would, that would cause that reaction after someone who he thought was bad was spared?

The point of a fuck up is that you fucked up.

DrWilgy wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Did I out myself? What was my definitive outing?

When Sorsha flipped on you for an innocuous post that only mention her in passing. Sorsha's doing, not mine.
When your reaction to that flip was "Relaxxxxx...." Yeah, because I thought I upset her and didn't mean to. Besides if I were telling a teammate to chill in the main thread vs. BTSC what sense would that make?
When the pair of you ping ponged between "painfully obvious distancing" and supporting each other See the point above.
When you crafted that bullshit post without checking any of your facts. And I was incorrect. You showed me that. Isn't that the point of the game? Make cases, judge info based on what you know and discuss? I don't see how me being incorrect is alignment indicative.

You are bad. You did that to yourself.

@Rico, look at LC's interactions with me after JJJ was spared. What would LC know about me, that no one else would, that would cause that reaction after someone who he thought was bad was spared?

The point of a fuck up is that you fucked up.

Fucking up isn't alignment indicative!

Ricochet wrote:

Matt wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:@Matt i want to see Wilgy and Sorsha lynched and see if MM maintains his suspicion on either of them before I can say whether I'd support an MM lynch.

Hrm.

I know you're going to think I'm teammates with Sorsha still, but I really do think you're off base with her and kinda wish you'd stop. But regardless, I think I'll be voting Wilgy tomorrow. I was more suss of Drac, but since we already had one civvie (3J) who could survive a kill, I'm thinking you're right on Wiggles.

If I die tonight, tho, I really hope MM isn't forgotten. Please do not forget him peeps.

@Rico, lulz at Hypothesis 11

Matt, am I off base with my ISO on Sorsha too? Gimme input.

DrWilgy wrote:DH your arguements for me have all been on the premise of something that isn't alignment indicative, and based on the actions of others. I've refuted them multiple times and I've contributed to the thread with ideas that you've ignored.

Right now we have:
Marmot, who is a self proclaimed 3rd party that we will never be able to differentiate between civvie and baddie.
Motel, who doesn't even have an ISO worth looking at because he lurks too much
Sorsha, whos reactions and logics were false and indicative of being a baddie (who you think is my teammate)
And Drac, who is the fluffy buddy parrot machine 9000

So why me? Your actions don't make sense on the exception that:
1. You are bad
2. You're too arrogant to think differently, or at least ponder on other thoughts.

And I'm hoping it's not 1.

DrWilgy wrote:Ok how about this.

I think there's a chance we can push LYLO back if we lynch Sorsha. It's not as great as a chance as lynching Drac, but a chance I'm willing to take if it means not lynching me.

If Sorsha is bad, I'll accept my lynch hoping that her death pushes lylo far enough back. Is that acceptable? Based on the way the votes were stacked yesterday, I'm leaning towards there being two teams. If we hit a baddie tomorrow, my death can happen and we still may be able to win.

Linki - Define bullshit vs wrong. What makes you think that post (since it's so game determining) is bullshit rather than wrong?

DrWilgy wrote:I haven't done anything making me Sorsha's teammate!

Why am I being judged for an unconfirmed actions?

DharmaHelper wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:@Mac just for you I'm gonna work on congregating as much of the Wilgy stuff as time allows.

Thank you based DharmaHelper.

Mkay this is just the recent stuff, don't have time/can't be bothered to go and do a complete re-read analysis of Wigglesworth McBaddiefart.

Our tale begins Here with the Boomslang flip. In the presence of my pestering, Sorsha makes this post, which is as textbook a distancing post as you could possibly ask for. She and Wilgy realize that I'm hot on the trail and are a bit too eager to start the distancing/damage control. I've already made several points as to why I believe Sorsha to have panicked so I won't reiterate that. Suffice it to say my working theory is that their team had some clever lynch shenanigans in place to cover Wilgy's ass and they didn't think anyone would catch on but your boy DH is woke.

Here Doc Wigglepants addresses Sorsha for a second before immediately pivoting the conversation. As Mac and I have discussed, this sort of thing is an indicator of distancing. Here he makes what I assume to be a jokey post saying Matt and Sorsha could be teammates. Doc feel free to clarify, but I don't recall you giving this any serious consideration.

In compiling this post, I've come across an interesting exchange between Wilgy and I that starts with that post. He asks me about my thoughts on Draconus, which I give him. This is important because as we'll see later, he's full of shit.

After the Night post Wilgy is, it seems, in the camp that Sorsha is good. Despite the post I've highlighted earlier, which shows Sorsha pretty solidly bussing her boy Wiggles.

Here he is openly rallying Sorsha to kick her ass into gear. Where did the enmity between them go?

And that's when we get to Dr. Wilgy's super bullshit, which I've previously highlighted and debunked Here and Here

Some of my problems with his B.S post:

- He completely made everything up, which I illustrated with like, less than 10 minutes of looking through my posts.
- He accused me of having a cavalier attitude towards Drac suspecting/voting for me, and yet after Sorsha literally bussed him he's rallying to keep her in the game? Lol ok.
- He completely ignores my new leads on Sorsha, instead focusing on Day 3 leads which he didn't even represent correctly.

Long story short:

- His reaction/Sorsha's reaction after pressured after the Boomslang flip
- Sorsha bussing him unnecessarily, and his cavalier reaction to it.
- His patently false post in which he puts forward absolutely zero facts.

Cool?

Matt wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Matt wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:@Matt i want to see Wilgy and Sorsha lynched and see if MM maintains his suspicion on either of them before I can say whether I'd support an MM lynch.

Hrm.

I know you're going to think I'm teammates with Sorsha still, but I really do think you're off base with her and kinda wish you'd stop. But regardless, I think I'll be voting Wilgy tomorrow. I was more suss of Drac, but since we already had one civvie (3J) who could survive a kill, I'm thinking you're right on Wiggles.

If I die tonight, tho, I really hope MM isn't forgotten. Please do not forget him peeps.

@Rico, lulz at Hypothesis 11

Matt, am I off base with my ISO on Sorsha too? Gimme input.

I can't really argue with anything you and DH are saying. Wish I was a better player derp. I just think you guys are wrong.

Linki - Lol @ Fluffy buddy parrot machine 9000. *ahem* Just kidding, Drac. Please don't tell me to eff off again

Ricochet wrote:I might just need some alcohol in order to ketch-up on the last page of DH-Wilgy exchange.

So far, gut tells me one of the players who felt better about Wilgy after his rebuttals, but uncertain or anxious about the result of yesterDay's two-wagon lynch, used a lynch pardon. Don't ask me to what effect, because I currently don't see it.

Can we lynch Sorsha tomorrow? Her ISO is almost entirely malign, at least from where I'm standing. We've hounded Wilgy and Draco yesterDay and they've both replied in some defensive fashion. If Sorsha is bad, she just took the Day off yesterDay, watching the two wagon unfold. One could argue she simply sided with her teamie Wilgie, but my point is, she was under no equivalent pressure or test yesterDay, the way our other suss's have. Let's pressure her.

Matt wrote:MM - I just counted. 23 out of 50 of Dom's posts on Day/Night 6 were about you or addressed to you. That's nearly half. I'm not going to count for every other player he mentioned, but I'm sure you beat everyone in which player had the most mentions by Dom that day.

MacDougall wrote:

Ricochet wrote:But...nobody switched from Draco for blowing up.

bea is nobody got it

FZ. wrote:Did I mention how this is not fun at all?

Wigly, any idea why you survived?

DH, I hate your never ending smilies. It doesn't help convince me you are right. If you think I'm bad, it doesn't matter, but if you believe I'm good, please stop making people feel stupid for not seeing things the way you do.

Honestly, I don't know who is bad, and I don't really care any more. I shouldn't have agreed to fill in, because I have real life issues that are messing with my life right now, and I don't think I'm good at figuring things through right now. I thought they'd get better, but they didn't. If the baddies can just kill me tonight, that would be really nice, because I doubt I can be replaced at this stage.

Ricochet wrote:There are 12 mafia left.

Draconus wrote:

Ricochet wrote:There are 12 mafia left.

Was just taking a break from the RL crazy to skim through this crazy and stumbled upon this line. I think I would shit myself if this were revealed and then never play mafia again out of sheer embarrassment and fear. That's a terrifying thought.

Ricochet wrote:I just wish I could find Sidoh already and recover my Note-o-da, so I can get the hell out of this game for good.

juliets wrote:Since its slow DH why don't you explain to me why you think I'm bad.

MacDougall wrote:It's cool guys I figured out that you were scum together you can stop this distancing schtick.

DharmaHelper wrote:Slow day.

juliets wrote:LoL. And fair enough DH I'll wait until we're at a better time.