Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]

#1401

I still suspect Black Rock a lot, but it's hard to have any new reason to when she is all sick and not around posting.

#1402

fingersplints wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Imo we should estabilish a G-Man thereshold.

If you are posting less than G-Man, then your activity is not acceptable.

(just kidding, I know real life happens)
I think it's harder to post as we have. While Gman has to find pictures; A lot are repeat. If he is bad he doesn't have to really push for lynches, and he isn't under much scrutiny.

#1403

i'll look into fingersplints next.

fingersplints wrote:
Elohcin wrote:Anyway, I am leaning civ on Epi, Golden, MM, Splints, and Jimmy. I am not sure about San, Sloo, DDL, MP, and BR.
BR's defense of MP definitely caught my eye. Especially in a one mafia set up. If she was bad, I mean he could be a indy but she would know he was more likely to be good.

i highlight this post only because of a sideboard point. i don't think it's suspicious or innocuous on its own power. but the tonality of fingersplints's attack on BR does give me one distinct feeling -- that it's not bussing. this doesn't have the appearance to me of a point that a mafioso usually makes against a team mate on Day 1, mostly because of its specificity. so if one of BR and fingersplints is mafia, i am inclined to think the other one is not right now. this feels like a pretty arbitrary insight from me though, so if anyone disagrees i encourage you to say so.

fingersplints wrote:So I'm a bit torn on MP. I think that the thing that bothers me the most is actually that I feel like a lot of his posts have a "tell me why I'm bad" demanding vibe going on, and I associate that more with a baddie. The timing thing doesn't bother me (although I totes get where Epi is coming from - it could be he just didn't want to answer that question hoping it would be forgotten) and although I think the Gman thing is weird I don't think makes him bad. The same thing could be pointed out about MP - why even bring up the question of if it is faked when it would draw so much attention for it.
Golden and TH are also bothering me by their different play but I'm not sure it makes either bad necessarily.

BR is still my biggest suspect for defending MP and then saying she wasn't defending him. I will probably be voting there.

other than the separated sentence at the bottom about BR, this might be the most waffly post in the thread. so that's not the best thing. fingersplints speaks at length here about MP but only barely seems to actually assert something (the vaguest degree of suspicion, but still "torn"). she waffles the most about Epignosis in this post, regarding his RL time-based attack on MP. i have no idea whether she would conclude his points were well-placed or not. the bit about Golden and TH is also very much on-the-fence and i am not sure why it's even there.

this will probably be her most suspicious post. if it isn't, then my read will likely be a negative one.

fingersplints wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
fingersplints wrote:So I'm a bit torn on MP. I think that the thing that bothers me the most is actually that I feel like a lot of his posts have a "tell me why I'm bad" demanding vibe going on, and I associate that more with a baddie. The timing thing doesn't bother me (although I totes get where Epi is coming from - it could be he just didn't want to answer that question hoping it would be forgotten) and although I think the Gman thing is weird I don't think makes him bad. The same thing could be pointed out about MP - why even bring up the question of if it is faked when it would draw so much attention for it.
Golden and TH are also bothering me by their different play but I'm not sure it makes either bad necessarily.

BR is still my biggest suspect for defending MP and then saying she wasn't defending him. I will probably be voting there.
ALARM BELLS.

You are my new suspect.

Will elaborate fully when I don't have only like 2 minutes away from class.
" no u"

Lol alright MP

not a fan of this "no u" deflection. MP said he was going to explain himself, and given his activity level in this game it was clear he'd follow through on that pledge. but instead of waiting to hear the reasoning, or even asking for it, splints just shrugs it off. very dismissive.

fingersplints wrote:The other thing that bothered me about MP was his line about TinyBubbles setting off "ALARM BELLS OF RAGE" for wanting to randomize despite that a lot has happened. Not that much has happened tbh. Some of these long posts are long for the sake of being long tbh
Why is it that crazy for a new person to want to randomize that it would make you rage? That bit seemed weird and forced

Linki - I gotta reread them one at a time. Those guys were mashing together for me a bit there. I don't do well with walls of text I'm not surprised by their reads although I don't agree seem to agree with most of them.

"not much has happened" in apparently the largest side mission game in recent memory (by Day 2)? granted this post was made in Day 1, but the game was moving quite fast then and a ton of content was in place. so i definitely don't agree with that assessment.

fingersplints wrote:I'll comment to the rest of MPs post later but I'm voting him now.
this feigned indignition has become pretty standard for MP. I can't give him a free pass again for this

splints's MP vote didn't prove to be very important in the final tally, but i won't call it inconsequential as i did Roxy's vote. this came at a time when the tally was still swingable to multiple players including MP. i would question the "I can't give him a free pass for this again" bit though. if MP's behavior is an alignment-independent thing, then why should it warrant a vote? shouldn't that amount to a null read?

fingersplints wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
fingersplints wrote:Maybe I am a little bit clouded by my last experience with a civvie Elo in Roger Rabbit.
have you noticed similarities between the Elo of this game and the Elo of that game?
Yes. I feel like it is more similar to her most recent baddie game I can remember.
Also, I feel like I have suspected Elo a lot for bandwagoning. So while her vote is weird I am not sure that it is that weird for Elo. And I am a bit wary that no one so many people seem to be ok with lynching her.

linki @ Sloonei - Bass is Roxy's son, and that is why I asked her opinion of him earlier. She can read him very well, so if she says he is alright I believe it for now.

fingersplints wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Splints, can you explain what it is you see that's similar about Elo's game here to her civ game in RR? I'm not seeing it, but it's possible you're catching something that I'm not.

I've explained away so many players' behavior in past games due to meta. I'm sticking to my guns here, even in spite of Elo's meta (since I think this is baddie Elo), since I've already cast my vote, but I'm hoping you can illuminate this matter nonetheless.
The major difference is that I had btsc with her in RR for a period or so, but it was an eventful period. And it was during then she learned she had been majorly played by almost everyone else she had btsc with. I feel like her tone now matches that more. It's more reactive and emotionally charged. When she was bad in Zelda I found her to be more dismissive about accusations, and when she was getting lynched I don't remember her getting like this.

these posts i rather like at the moment. Elo opened the phase as the odds-on favorite to be lynched, and this vocal resistance to that is a significant perspective to adopt i think. it's not worth a ton of bonus points, but i like it. if Elo ends up lynched and flips mafia i may feel differently.

overall i don't think this makes me feel very strongly about splints either way. there are things i like and things i don't like. i'll leave her to respond however she may and help me determine my lean.

#1404

MovingPictures07 wrote:Well, I'm trying. :P

Jay, I want to play the game now.

who's here?!

G-Man, you count too. all you'll need is a thumb-up and thumb-down picture to play.

#1405

if you're here say aye! and we can do this thing.

#1406

#1407

Aye.

Just say already what it is about. I'm getting sleepy.

#1408

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Aye.

Just say already what it is about. I'm getting sleepy.

Dragon D. Sleepy

#1409

We better get at least 3 more people.

#1410

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Aye.

Just say already what it is about. I'm getting sleepy.

i can't say what it is until i know i have participants. that could influence the outcome. need more than 2 for it to be worth anything.

#1411

hey MP, since you already know what i mean to do... if we don't get enough people tonight, you can still do it sometime when the game is more active. i am stuck in a time zone where the game is often dead when i am awake so, yanno

#1412

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:hey MP, since you already know what i mean to do... if we don't get enough people tonight, you can still do it sometime when the game is more active. i am stuck in a time zone where the game is often dead when i am awake so, yanno

Ooooh, good point. Will do.

#1413

Aye'm here.

#1414

G-man? splints? BWT11? show me a sign

#1415

don't be afraid, baddies. this game is for everyone.

#1416

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:don't be afraid, baddies. this game is for everyone.

#1417

Where's my ISO Jay

#1418

Where are you rainbow reads MP

#1419

MovingPictures07 wrote:Where's my ISO Jay

see you next May

#1420

Turnip Head wrote:Where are you rainbow reads MP

Touche.

I'll get them before I go to bed, for sure.

#1421

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Where's my ISO Jay
see you next May

Bon voyage

#1422

bummer. i think we're going to fall short of the requisite number of people.

#1423

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:bummer. i think we're going to fall short of the requisite number of people.

Dang!

Hopefully we'll find a better time.

What do people do on a Saturday night that's better than mafia anyway?

#1424

i like to think other players are engaged at lively social gatherings. and if i was close enough, i could barge in drenched in sweat with a bottle of jack in hand and an index finger of suspicion pointing straight at them

STOP THE MUSIC. EVERYONE LISTEN. THERE'S A BADDIE IN THIS PARTY AND I HAVE PROOF.

#1425

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:i like to think other players are engaged at lively social gatherings. and if i was close enough, i could barge in drenched in sweat with a bottle of jack in hand and an index finger of suspicion pointing straight at them

STOP THE MUSIC. EVERYONE LISTEN. THERE'S A BADDIE IN THIS PARTY AND I HAVE PROOF.

Post of the game right here.

#1426

I see going to play heroes of the storm instead of staying here waiting for whatever was a wise decision.

Brb gonna play more hots.

#1427

er yeah if anyone is still waiting for that, stop waiting. it won't happen tonight.

#1428

I'm just waiting for my ISO now.

#1429

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm just waiting for my ISO now.

tomorrow.

i'm not doing anymore tonight. it's 3:30am and i'm sleepy. unless something happens soon i'll be

#1430

Lol, I'm just giving you a hard time.

#1431

i am going to ISO you. i ain't afraid of 300 posts. my personal best is 525.

#1432

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:i am going to ISO you. i ain't afraid of 300 posts. my personal best is 525.

Personal best for most posts?

In that case, mine is 858. :P

Dr. Who Mafia, where I was a recruited Doctor.

#1433

About half my posts today (exaggeration) should have probably been in OT green, sorry skimmers.

#1434

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#1435

But those time stamps are all recent. Are we bragging about post counts? I think I topped 300 once.

#1436

I'm here! Just hidden.

#1437

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm here! Just hidden.

Lurking is v scummy imo

#1438

I'm hidden a good percentage of the time I'm on the site, pretty sure most people do that.

#1439

I'm voting for most people.

#1440

Sloonei wrote:I'm voting for most people.

He's definitely mafia.

#1441

i'm hidden too. just seems like a good practice regardless of alignment. everyone ought to do it, because i think accusations relative to people being online or not at a given time are not within the spirit of the game.

#1442

I agree completely.

#1443

Sloonei you should read things and then share some delicious perspectives. i'll feast.

#1444

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm hidden a good percentage of the time I'm on the site, pretty sure most people do that.

How do you hide?

#1445

Nmv found it. And turns out I was already hidden.

#1446

I like the false feeling of solitude tho

#1447

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Sloonei you should read things and then share some delicious perspectives. i'll feast.

I should. I am.

#1448

I'm going to start by looking at some of the low-content posters because that's not something I've really done yet.

acrosstheaether - I have not really played a game with anyone since about December/January, and I know aether has played a lot in that time, so I don't know what her recent playstyle has been, but I remember her being one of the strongest thread presences in most of her earlier games on RYM. This game, however, she's been completely absent. I think Jay noted that she's been more laid back early in games of late, but I'm still a bit unnerved by this relative silence from her thus far.

acrosstheaether wrote:
Golden wrote:My thoughts so far - a few newbies (DDL, JJJ, sanmateo, sloonei) are running straight into a drive by lynch of one of them. Not that I support that, I just feel like it's what you risk by generating so much discussion here on day one.
Where we're from, generating a lot of discussion on day one is a good idea. Gives us more to work from in the future.

Comes in an offers this post early in Day 1 and it seemed to suggest she would be joining in on that a lot of content.

acrosstheaether wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I think Dragon is bad news. He's leaving himself little outs that he can use later.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 76#p142976
Good point.

This post has gone unexplained since it was made, so I'll continue echoing the suspicion of it until an explanation exists.

acrosstheaether wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
acrosstheaether wrote:I kept forgetting my password so had to keep retrieving it lol but I got Chrome to remember it this time
Hello, have you been able to follow any of this stuff so far? What are your thoughts? What's your password?
No substantial thoughts yet... I kinda agree with JJJ on Epi but I disagree with him on DDL. Still don't feel good about them.

Here she echoes the Dragon suspicion with an endlessly vague "don't feel good about them." I'd ask what aether thinks of this read now, and maybe explain what she saw in it early on.

acrosstheaether wrote:I don't understand why Golden is the only one with the votes, but oh well, it's day 1, where I'm usually no good. I'll probably be able to dig deeper once more information surfaces.

I also apologise for having been online earlier but not posting. I was confused about whether my amended role was still an error since I rolled the same role twice.

This post I really don't like. The bolded part seems like aether giving herself an excuse to hide behind in the shadows. That's almost as scummy as that post I made last game on RYM, imo.

acrosstheaether wrote:How do I ISO on this place

Similar themed post to her first one. Seems to promise a bigger contribution forthcoming and then disappears back into the shadows.

I hope the case is that she is a townie just playing a more reserved game, or just dealing with time constraints, and not scum hiding behind the action of the game, but the longer she's silent the more uneasy I become. A lot of her posts either suggest a vague awareness of scum hunting or are things about the format of this site, which raises a few alarms for me. I'd probably be leaning more scum on aether than town right now.

#1449

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm hidden a good percentage of the time I'm on the site, pretty sure most people do that.

Not me.

#1450

As a follow-up to that, I hope that a town aether would be able to give us some reads or at least general opinions about the thread.
Who do you suspect? Who are your town reads? What do you think of the big cases that have been dominating the thread? Elohcin and Moving Pictures seem to be the two most heavily contested names, with a vague third party Bass case floating around. Do you have an opinion on any of those names?

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