MAD MAX: GAME OVER

#3601

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I discussed your paranoia in the post right before Sloonei asked that question, Dom. I think you have irrefutably exhibited paranoia.

okay...

No one wants to discuss when Scotty admitted I was a civ though? This is my third time bringing this up.

#3602

Dom wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I discussed your paranoia in the post right before Sloonei asked that question, Dom. I think you have irrefutably exhibited paranoia.
okay...

No one wants to discuss when Scotty admitted I was a civ though? This is my third time bringing this up.

Did he explicitly say that? I can't find it.

#3603

Dom wrote:
Quin wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:Quin, your vote is currently worthless. I suggest moving it.
No it's not. I think Dom is bad. People should vote Dom.
Do you still?

DrWilgy wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Sorry if I made the wrong move, Wilgy. I dunno. One frustration is that every wagon I started today resulted in me wanting to lynch those people less. Either I've been duped by someone's emotions, or all three baddies are non-obvious people.
Based on this and your reaction to what I just stated, I'm willing to bet either you or INH is bad. Idk about both, but I'll bet one of you two is bad.

Look into this when I'm gone Sloonei and Dom, I trust you two together.
Why Wilgyyyy whyyyyyy Dom and Sloonei

Haven't even brushed my Quin look yet this game. That's odd
Yes. His refusal to answer questions properly and how he lashes out when pressed about them does not make sense from a town mindset.
Your continuous lying does not make sense from a town mindset.

Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I think Dom looked alright at the end of the day yesterday, if that is what you're referencing, Quin. It makes sense if we assume that he believed you and me to be bad. To him it looked like we were the ones deliberately avoiding answering his questions, when it reality I think it was just a series of miscommunications going back and forth between him and us. I think it would be beneficial if we could work through the problems he had, and the problems we had, in a more level-headed manner today. There wasn't really time to stop and catch our collective breath when it was all happening the other day.
I'd like to talk through his case with me properly, which is why I waited for him to put everything on the table. He has not. What I'm referring to in the 'refusal to answer questions properly' thing extends beyond just his interaction with you and me.
....I don't see how I refused to answer questions properly. You continuously refuse to look at things from my perspective. I saw two players ignoring my questions, lying about me and what others have said about me ganging up on me. Without the heat of the moment from the last day phase, you're down on my sus list. But your pushing this doesn't paint a pretty picture because your accusations are patently false.

Scotty wrote:
Sloonei wrote:unfairly snipping all of glorf's investigative work to get to the conclusion
Glorfindel wrote:
In my view, I think this analysis suggests to me that Scotty is clearly suspicious and not simply for the performance of his predecessor. I think his indiscriminate criticism of my voting record looks suspicious on that basis alone and he seems to have some difficulty making a logical case against it (with good reason). I also find Sprityo's early interactions with Jay mildly suspicious as do I judge his continual sniping at one of my strongest Town reads all game (Sloonei). His reads appear to me to have been limited and (apart from Sloonei) without a lot of structured arguments to support them. Having just gone through all that, I'm prepared to place my vote on Scotty pending other developments.
Hey Scotty, care to address any of these points at all? You gave a sarcastic quip earlier, but I don't get that as a substantive response.
Ok.

I don't know what to respond to. My criticism of his voting record looks suspicious? Hummm says the guy who just analyzed and criticized both my and sprityo's voting record.

My "continual sniping" at Sloonei is because I don't necessarily want to rule him out as bad. Why does Glorf place Sloon as one of his highest town reads?

My reads hve been limited, and that I won't deny. That's my jumping in and not necesssriy reading through most of day 2 and 3. I've been going on guy without making verbose arguments. That's just how I'm playing this as a replacement. If that's suspicious alone, then I apologize.

And @Sloonei regarding placing my vote on Dom and Wilgy instead of Glorf, i chose poorly. I didn't necessarily trust a train that was already formed on Glorf and was looking at more than one option.
OK so... scotty-- voitng me would have absolutely been a poor deciison... but....
how do you know that?
(because you're bad)

Quin wrote:Here's that ISO Dom was itching for. Every occurrence of one of the two codes I mentioned earlier in his posts:
<<SNIP FOR BREVITY>>

I voted for Dom. I would like him to talk about his case against me.
I don't really think the LoRab case is comparable in any fashion.

#3604

Oh I see what you mean.

Scotty, please answer to that.

#3605

And that is quite the contradiction to his current position on me.

#3606

I'll try to do some more interactive checks. I had started one for INH/Glorfindel, but I'm just going to leave it. The failed lynch here pretty much affirms that they're not both bad. It isn't 100%, but it's close enough for me. They didn't look like team mates otherwise anyway.

#3607

Alternative theory:

LoRab wrote:If INH were silvertongue, why would he bother to save himself if he were going to bail from the game entirely? Why not just let himself die if he was no longer going to play?

LoRab wrote:For those feeling so confident, how are you understanding Elo's not rememerbering that he hadn't been replaced?

LoRab is Silvertongue. She continues to distrust INH because she knows he is not Silvertongue. She still has a town lean on Glorfindel and could be one person who'd have stopped his lynch.

Discuss.

#3608

Counter: she missed the vote for understandable reasons and wouldn't have been able to stop the lynch or even know who was being lynched.

#3609

Good times arguing with myself.

#3610

Interactions between Glorfindel and LoRab

Glorfindel:

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Glorfindel makes an inquiry about LoRab's investigative behavior, implying a meta difference from a past game.

Glorfindel wrote:Apologies for being late to this party, my friends. FWIW, I can see the logic behind your case here Sloonei and whilst I've not considered LoRab seriously as a baddie before, I think your case here holds more water than that against Elohcin. I find the collapse in the wagon on Sprityo to be intriguing - as ambivalent as I feel towards him, I'd not have touched that wagon with a 10 foot barge pole...

He was talking to Sloonei here during the LoRab vs. Elohcin lynch. Very good look for LoRab if Glorfindel is bad.

Otherwise his mentions of LoRab are either off-hand or in explanations of the same vote.

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LoRab:

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LoRab expands on her behavior in response to the prior mentioned Glorfindel inqury.

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LoRab was and has remained highly supportive of the notion that Glorfindel makes a poor Elohcin team mate because of her erroneous mention of him being replaced. This is something I brought into the thread so I can't blame her.

Purple on her Night 3 rainbow -- Very strong town color. Take it however you may.

Otherwise her mentions of Glorfindel refer back to the same Elohcin error.

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Conclusion:

If Glorfindel is bad, I think LoRab is good. Her read would be incorrect, but I understand how she got there. The one Glorfindel post in the Elohcin/LoRab wagons of Day 3 speaks volumes to me.

#3611

Interactions between Glorfindel and Quin

Glorfindel:

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This is more about Elohcin, but both Glorfindel and Quin tie into it. I think that if I'm to make the decision that this doesn't indicate Glorfindel as a townie, then it shouldn't indicate Quin as a townie either.

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This was Glorfindel's first true interaction with Quin, on Day 5. I think from Quin's end this looks authentic in that it is a pretty specific and unique accusation that is more likely to emerge from a hunting townie than a distancing team mate. Small point perhaps.

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Quin:

Good read on Night 3

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This one is a bit more waffly and perhaps forgiving. Eh.

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Glorfindel is part of a three man scum team. 0 for 1 so far.

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Says Glorfindel is more likely bad with Scotty than neither being bad.

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He seems to favor a Dom wagon over a Glorfindel wagon.

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Conclusion:

Apart from the visible interactions in posts, one should also discuss Quin's votes: his known tendency to vote on his own solo wagons continues in this game. It isn't alone a reason to scum read him but it's also not something I am going to give him town points for. It's a convenient meta. Generally I think this is inconclusive, but I'd lean more town than scum if Glorfindel is bad.

#3612

I'm running short on time. Someone else should do Sloonei and Scotty.

Unless of course there is someone who thinks Glorfindel is town. I'm happy to hear your case.

#3613

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'm running short on time. Someone else should do Sloonei and Scotty.

Unless of course there is someone who thinks Glorfindel is town. I'm happy to hear your case.

Sloonei:
Looks great, A+, super town.

#3614

You could give Scotty a go, ideally as unbiased as possible.

#3615

I will if I have time. I am on the go at the moment but should have an hour or two before the night ends.

#3616

Great, now we get to wait a few days like a VCR forever on pause.

Glorf is probably Cundalini based on the host post, INH's activity as the most likely candidate for Silvertongue and that Glorf is good as much as baboons wear pants. He should be the lynch tomorrow either way.

So apparently I have been asked to respond to Glorf's response to my response. Or something.

Glorfindel wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Sloonei wrote:unfairly snipping all of glorf's investigative work to get to the conclusion
Glorfindel wrote:
In my view, I think this analysis suggests to me that Scotty is clearly suspicious and not simply for the performance of his predecessor. I think his indiscriminate criticism of my voting record looks suspicious on that basis alone and he seems to have some difficulty making a logical case against it (with good reason). I also find Sprityo's early interactions with Jay mildly suspicious as do I judge his continual sniping at one of my strongest Town reads all game (Sloonei). His reads appear to me to have been limited and (apart from Sloonei) without a lot of structured arguments to support them. Having just gone through all that, I'm prepared to place my vote on Scotty pending other developments.
Hey Scotty, care to address any of these points at all? You gave a sarcastic quip earlier, but I don't get that as a substantive response.
Ok.

I don't know what to respond to. My criticism of his voting record looks suspicious? Hummm says the guy who just analyzed and criticized both my and sprityo's voting record.

My "continual sniping" at Sloonei is because I don't necessarily want to rule him out as bad. Why does Glorf place Sloon as one of his highest town reads?

My reads hve been limited, and that I won't deny. That's my jumping in and not necesssriy reading through most of day 2 and 3. I've been going on guy without making verbose arguments. That's just how I'm playing this as a replacement. If that's suspicious alone, then I apologize.

And @Sloonei regarding placing my vote on Dom and Wilgy instead of Glorf, i chose poorly. I didn't necessarily trust a train that was already formed on Glorf and was looking at more than one option.
OK, Scotty - let's take this from the top. This is your post saying my voting record was suspicious:
Scotty wrote:I don't like Glorfindel's voting record.
Day 1, early Mac vote. Disappears later and lets the wind of time dictate the lynch.
Day 2, no vote.
Day 3, he makes the second to last vote in the poll and votes for LoRab to tie the lynch. Motel room brings down the hammer on Elo. (Good look for MR)
Day 4, (which i just read) he says he broke the tie, but I can't tell. This one I'm not as bothered about, because he had expressed suspicion of INH prior to the vote. This EoD makes me twitch slightly because we DONT have a lynch and so it's hard to analyze if anyone was protecting someone with votes. I'd like to believe that Wilgy is still bad. But Glorf could be an accomplice.

I don't know Glorf's baddie game all that well. I could be looking for truffles in the wrong forest.
Day 1. Yes, I voted for Mac Day 1 because I found his comments contradictory (and posted as much at the time). I placed my vote on him and saw no reason to change it. Would you have been less suspicious of me had I been on the train that mistakenly lynched you?

Day 2. Yes, I missed the vote. I think it's the first that I've missed in all the games I've played on this site and I am embarrassed about that. At the time however, I had some rather important real life issues on my plate as I recall (and again, I'm fairly certain that I'd mentioned as much in the thread). If you choose to discount my circumstances, that's your choice.

Day 3. Yes, I was late to the thread that morning to find the Elohcin and LoRab wagons tied or nearly and cast my vote on LoRab. I'd had suspicions of her that Day Phase (and no longer do) and couldn't see the logic behind Elohcin's wagon. Again, I'd explained that at the time and my posts bear that out.

Day 4. Yes, I did break the tie. You have no evidence to the contrary but are happy to spin doubts about the actual events to support your opinion of me. You make an association between DrWilgy and I saying that if DrWilgy is bad, so am I. Well, DrWilgy wasn't bad...
You claim my record is suspicious? Please explain to me or provide evidence of where my voting behaviour appears duplicitous. In response to my analysis of your ISO (and as a consequence although not explicitly, your voting record) you offer no defence whatsover other than "Hummm says the guy who just analyzed and criticized both my and sprityo's voting record."

Ok so looking at voting, I'm looking at a pattern or chances to save. So while singular votes may not be inherently suspicious, generally the overarching voting decisions a baddie makes.

Day 1, would I have been less suspicious if you had changed it? I mean, I can't answer that because you weren't around to change it. Unless you're saying you were around and were content in leaving your vote where it was because you didn't care since you would know Mac is good, then yeah- that's sus.

Day 2, missing the vote because of real life circumstances is not something I would discount- real life takes precedence. Not voting simply doesn't allow for a proper analysis, so either way it helps nil. Though as I learned a couple phases ago, missing a vote is better than coming in and voting last minute. Apparently

Day 3, regardless of your reasoning, you blatantly saved a confirmed baddie from impending doom, and that may not make you bad, but either way I'm holding you responsible. We still don't know if Lorab is bad, but now that you brought this up again, if you are bad like I think you are, it's a good look for LoRab.

Day 4, I'm not spinning anything. That EoD was confusing af. And duplicitous does not equal suspicious. You can be honest with your voting and just be bad.

My comments about your sniping at Sloonei relate specifically to what I saw in (Ref: 5.6) where you declare that if Indiglo is good, then that's a far better look for Sloonei. Indiglo WAS good and yet your re-evaluation of Sloonei is that "I'm not sure this makes Sloonei look better...". I interpreted your continued reluctance to accept a player I believed to be good as noteworthy. As to why I thought so highly of Sloonei amongst my reads, I think I've said the same thing almost since we began this game and did so again today. May I ask you (in just a couple of sentences) why you think I'm wrong about our friend Sloonei. What is it about him that you find so suspicious?
People can change opinions. I also don't like flaunting out civ reads Willy Nilly. Yes, indi flipping good made me feel better about Sloon, but didn't make me want to rule him out of contention. I think Sloon has made some calls in the game that could be conceived as non-comittal, but also he is a tough cookie to read. I think he is looking good, based on the past cycle with how he's handling the reads of me and you. Either way, I would rank him dead last on people I want lynched right now (except for JJJ of course).

Anyway, that I suspect one of your 'town reads that you have had all game' means only that it appears you are buddying up to him.

Lastly, I accept your concerns about 'subbing in' - I've never done that and I don't really have an appreciation of what it's like. I'd imagine though that it's a tough ask. That being said, can you explain to me where my being thorough (or verbose as you put it) suggests to you that I'm bad

Yeah, subbing in hasn't its ups and downs. Gotta answer for someone who I had no control over. It's like finding a $100 bill in your pocket and then someone telling you it's counterfeit. But you didn't know that- it's just $100 to you.

Your talkative nature isn't suspicious- it's the way you're answering questions posed to you. You're answering in a non-direct, roundabout way that is overinflation. It's like talking about something else just long enough in the hope that they'll forget what they originally asked.

#3617

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:You could give Scotty a go, ideally as unbiased as possible.

I'll try:

He's been wrong about Wilgy, and has been kind of all over the place but he lately he's being more inferential with suspicions and feels much more confident in at least 2 people that are bad. seems pretty town. B

#3618

Scotty wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:You could give Scotty a go, ideally as unbiased as possible.
I'll try:

He's been wrong about Wilgy, and has been kind of all over the place but he lately he's being more inferential with suspicions and feels much more confident in at least 2 people that are bad. seems pretty town. B

Who are the two people?

You could analyze Sloonei's interactions with Glorfindel.

#3619

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Scotty wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:You could give Scotty a go, ideally as unbiased as possible.
I'll try:

He's been wrong about Wilgy, and has been kind of all over the place but he lately he's being more inferential with suspicions and feels much more confident in at least 2 people that are bad. seems pretty town. B
Who are the two people?

You could analyze Sloonei's interactions with Glorfindel.

Don't have time before EoD, gotta eat dinner before this show.

2 people: Glorf and Dom. The other one is up in the air.

#3620

Maybe they'll finally kill me. Neil Hartley is tired.

#3621

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Maybe they'll finally kill me. Neil Hartley is tired.

lol I almost forgot Neil hartley was here.

I still don't know who that is.

#3622

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'm running short on time. Someone else should do Sloonei and Scotty.

Unless of course there is someone who thinks Glorfindel is town. I'm happy to hear your case.

Yeah, like I thought all along - I don't think you ever had any intention of keeping an open mind about me Jay. Everything you've posted about me screams 'guilty until proven innocent' which is the story of EVERY SINGLE game I've played here. I can't even put into words (and that's saying something coming from me...) the disappointment that I feel for the complete lack of objectivity I've witnessed this game. We can't afford a mis-lynch from now on? Fine. Go right ahead...

#3623

Dom still has not addressed the case on him.

#3624

Glorfindel wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'm running short on time. Someone else should do Sloonei and Scotty.

Unless of course there is someone who thinks Glorfindel is town. I'm happy to hear your case.
Yeah, like I thought all along - I don't think you ever had any intention of keeping an open mind about me Jay. Everything you've posted about me screams 'guilty until proven innocent' which is the story of EVERY SINGLE game I've played here. I can't even put into words (and that's saying something coming from me...) the disappointment that I feel for the complete lack of objectivity I've witnessed this game. We can't afford a mis-lynch from now on? Fine. Go right ahead...

I said I am happy to hear the case for you being town. I'm not sure what else can reasonably be expected of me. Everyone in this game knows I'm town and thus they should know that my efforts are genuine. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but it isn't because I haven't tried the best I can.

You've seen the evidence I've assembled against you. Do you believe it to be illogical somewhere? My final decision won't have been made until I let the Day 8 deadline pass and my final vote stay. By all means, maintain the dialogue.

#3625

Glorfindel wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'm running short on time. Someone else should do Sloonei and Scotty.

Unless of course there is someone who thinks Glorfindel is town. I'm happy to hear your case.
Yeah, like I thought all along - I don't think you ever had any intention of keeping an open mind about me Jay. Everything you've posted about me screams 'guilty until proven innocent' which is the story of EVERY SINGLE game I've played here. I can't even put into words (and that's saying something coming from me...) the disappointment that I feel for the complete lack of objectivity I've witnessed this game. We can't afford a mis-lynch from now on? Fine. Go right ahead...

I know you can't answer for your actual role, but who do you think INH is?

#3626

There have been multiple occasions in this game where I have tried very hard to have a productive and meaningful dialogue with my suspects, and it has been met with contempt or dismissiveness. I'm not being given a chance here, and when that happens I am frankly not inclined to accept the blame for the outcome when I am wrong. I'll accept it 95% of the time, but this game is leaving me quite incredulous.

#3627

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'm running short on time. Someone else should do Sloonei and Scotty.

Unless of course there is someone who thinks Glorfindel is town. I'm happy to hear your case.
Yeah, like I thought all along - I don't think you ever had any intention of keeping an open mind about me Jay. Everything you've posted about me screams 'guilty until proven innocent' which is the story of EVERY SINGLE game I've played here. I can't even put into words (and that's saying something coming from me...) the disappointment that I feel for the complete lack of objectivity I've witnessed this game. We can't afford a mis-lynch from now on? Fine. Go right ahead...
I said I am happy to hear the case for you being town. I'm not sure what else can reasonably be expected of me. Everyone in this game knows I'm town and thus they should know that my efforts are genuine. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but it isn't because I haven't tried the best I can.

You've seen the evidence I've assembled against you. Do you believe it to be illogical somewhere? My final decision won't have been made until I let the Day 8 deadline pass and my final vote stay. By all means, maintain the dialogue.

There IS NO evidence against me Jay - just spin and conjecture (like in EVERY game I've played on this site - let me ask you, just how many times has this happened here - where there is apparently conclusive evidence against me that led to my lynching? And what was the result on each occasion?). But hey, if you think that's conclusive, who am I to argue

#3628

Glorfindel wrote:There IS NO evidence against me Jay - just spin and conjecture (like in EVERY game I've played on this site - let me ask you, just how many times has this happened here - where there is apparently conclusive evidence against me that led to my lynching? And what was the result on each occasion?). But hey, if you think that's conclusive, who am I to argue

There have been numerous occasions where people have suspected you, and I have been the one telling them they're wrong. I don't think I have the evidence I need to make the same claim in this game. Does that mean anything to you?

You survived a lynch (keyword "survived", not "pardoned"), and there is a role on the baddie team that survives a lynch. Is that not evidence against you? Do you not understand why people might view that as a reason to suspect you? I don't see any way you can be Silvertongue that makes any sense, and I explained already why I doubt that you are Jim Goose. Please show me in clear terms why the reasoning I have supplied is faulty. No matter how closed minded you accuse me of being, I'm still listening and ready to hear a counter-argument. I want a counter-argument.

#3629

Hey LoRab I just reread through the past 24 hours and I'm sort to hear about the passing of your uncle. Please be well--

Ok chaps. I'm getting ready for a show. If I'm still alive, I'll see you tomorrow.

If not, the Skags can go skag themselves.

#3630

It occurs to me that I've already compiled a preliminary interactive read for Scotty and Glorfindel, right here.

The theory was that neither had interacted with the other at all since Scotty subbed back into the game, and I thought this looked suspicious. So I tried to force them to interact yesterday. So that would be my conclusion for Days 1-6. On Day 7 I thought Glorfindel looked hesitant. He provided a meaty initial response, but it was surprisingly lacking in substance, I thought. It read mostly as a checklist of things Scotty has done, capped off by a vague suspicion against the things on that checklist.

Scotty's defense against this case looked more spirited and believable to me, but it was not a particularly hard hitting case. I would not rule out the possibility that they are teammates.

#3631

I've been exploring the possibility of a Scotty-Dom-Glorfindel team.

#3632

In case I die, I'd vote Glorfindel again.

I'm going to speed through Glorfindel's posts to see what I can see.

#3633

Quin wrote:Dom still has not addressed the case on him.

The list of things Dom has left unaddressed is growing pretty long.

#3634

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I've been exploring the possibility of a Scotty-Dom-Glorfindel team.

I would not be shocked. I have not been confident in this trio all being bad because they've been my three main suspects for the last couple of days, it never turns out that the top three suspects are all bad together. Someone's gotta be low-hanging fruit, right?

#3635

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I've been exploring the possibility of a Scotty-Dom-Glorfindel team.

I have to say, chums, that I would not be against this, provided I am last to be lynched of those 3 and it isn't MYLO. I think there is some fair suspicion from all sides for me no matter what I do from here on, and objectively- I would want to lynch me too.

I of course would not like to be lynched because I am good, but if I were bad, and it is a Glorf/Dom duo, I do ask: is selling out my teammates really a good move in any case? Even if my back was to the wall, it's hardly advantageous if I am bad to call them out for civ Cred. It wouldn't be worth it. But that's just from my perspective. Take it what you will.

#3636

Interactions between Glorfindel and Scotty 2.0 / sprityo

Glorfindel:

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Glorfindel states in confident language that he wouldn't have taken part in a sprityo lynch on Day 3.

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This post comes from a larger post in which Glorfindel cast suspicion on Scotty 2.0. The highlighted assertion is a bit different from the previous post where he suggested he wouldn't have touched a sprityo wagon with a 10 foot pole.

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sprityo:

Never mentioned Glorfindel.

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Scotty 2.0:

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Critical of Glorfindel's voting record on Day 5. I think his reasoning is understandable. On some level I also like that he elected to investigate voting records specifically soon after rejoining the game, since that's much easier content to judge at face value when one hasn't gotten caught up with a game.

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Glorfindel is a bad GTH read, but with a caveat. It might be meaningful that he felt the need to say this at all, particularly given that he had made the specific effort prior to raise suspicion about his voting record.

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End of Day 6. He expressed a willingness to lynch either Glorfindel or Dom.

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Who is stirring the pot away from him?

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I don't like this highlighted thing. Scotty is saying his Glorfindel vote is his preferred vote despite the small train, and then he flips his hand of cards face up to negate his proposed strategy by saying exactly what he is doing. This seems pointless and thus possibly fake.

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He was willing to judge Sloonei based upon his vote for Glorfindel. Perhaps premature.

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Vague accusation of Dom in the midst of a generally anti-Glorfindel atmosphere.

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I think at this point Scotty had picked up on why I was asking Glorfindel those questions, so I am not inclined to give him bonus points (or deduct points) for this post.

It's a lot of the same after that. Scotty has become progressively more anti-Glorfindel.

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Conclusion:

There's one moment I thought looked nice, and one that I thought looked bad. I think he's a compatible team mate at least and I don't struggle to envision them being in full on distance mode right now -- particularly given Glorfindel's big case against him which was inconsistent with his own prior stated read.

#3637

Sloonei wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I've been exploring the possibility of a Scotty-Dom-Glorfindel team.
I would not be shocked. I have not been confident in this trio all being bad because they've been my three main suspects for the last couple of days, it never turns out that the top three suspects are all bad together. Someone's gotta be low-hanging fruit, right?

Could be, but it doesn't "gotta" be. If one of those is low-hanging fruit, who's the replacement baddie?

#3638

I don't have time for Sloonei. I hope he's good.

#3639

Scotty wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I've been exploring the possibility of a Scotty-Dom-Glorfindel team.
I have to say, chums, that I would not be against this, provided I am last to be lynched of those 3 and it isn't MYLO. I think there is some fair suspicion from all sides for me no matter what I do from here on, and objectively- I would want to lynch me too.

I of course would not like to be lynched because I am good, but if I were bad, and it is a Glorf/Dom duo, I do ask: is selling out my teammates really a good move in any case? Even if my back was to the wall, it's hardly advantageous if I am bad to call them out for civ Cred. It wouldn't be worth it. But that's just from my perspective. Take it what you will.

Who's bad if those two are and you aren't?

#3640

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I don't have time for Sloonei. I hope he's good.

He is.

#3641

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I've been exploring the possibility of a Scotty-Dom-Glorfindel team.
I would not be shocked. I have not been confident in this trio all being bad because they've been my three main suspects for the last couple of days, it never turns out that the top three suspects are all bad together. Someone's gotta be low-hanging fruit, right?
Could be, but it doesn't "gotta" be. If one of those is low-hanging fruit, who's the replacement baddie?

I'm not sure what you mean, but I'd rank them like this:
Scotty
Dom
Glorfindel

#3642

Sloonei wrote:I'm not sure what you mean, but I'd rank them like this:
Scotty
Dom
Glorfindel

There are four members of the baddie team. If one of these three you've colored here is a low-hanging fruit townie, who is the actual baddie in their place?

#3643

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I'm not sure what you mean, but I'd rank them like this:
Scotty
Dom
Glorfindel
There are four members of the baddie team. If one of these three you've colored here is a low-hanging fruit townie, who is the actual baddie in their place?

I don't have an answer right now. I thought Epi looked bad on Day 6, but otherwise he and zebra have looked good. LoRab and Quin have both been strong town reads and I'm having trouble finding reasons to call them bad, but there's nothing that makes them undeniably town. So I don't know. I've been feeling slightly better about Scotty the last 48 hours, but he still ranks behind those others.
I'm very confident that INH is Silvertongue now.

#3644

Sloonei wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I'm not sure what you mean, but I'd rank them like this:
Scotty
Dom
Glorfindel
There are four members of the baddie team. If one of these three you've colored here is a low-hanging fruit townie, who is the actual baddie in their place?
I don't have an answer right now. I thought Epi looked bad on Day 6, but otherwise he and zebra have looked good. LoRab and Quin have both been strong town reads and I'm having trouble finding reasons to call them bad, but there's nothing that makes them undeniably town. So I don't know. I've been feeling slightly better about Scotty the last 48 hours, but he still ranks behind those others.
I'm very confident that INH is Silvertongue now.

GTH answer please. I need a name.

#3645

LoRab

#3646

Cool beans. We'll see. Someone about to drop dead?

#3647

Probably me, but my eyes bleed reading Glorfindel's posts. It's the literary equivalent of sugar. My eyeballs' teeth hurt. I still think Lorab is good, for what that is worth.

#3648

Just got back to the house. Working on the night post.

#3649

BAPTISM BY FIRE

Though the forecast called for it to be gone in another 12 hours, the dust storm was unrelenting. Lampposts and security lighting cast eerie orange glows amidst the gritty blackness. The occasional car would go past, driven by some fool who didn't have the sense to stay at home and wait a few more hours for the food or supplies that they felt they had to have right this minute.

To little Timmy, those headlights resembled the orb-like eyes of monsters coming to eat him in his bed. Hiding under the covers was no help. Between what little light snaked in through his bedroom window, the groaning of the house fending off the tempest outside, and the wheezing of cars trying to make their way through the storm, little Timmy's mind ran a little too wild. No, if there was a monster coming to eat him, he'd at least like to see it coming.

So there he was, perched at his bedroom window, all night long, waiting for some beast of the night to come for him. His father always told him to face his fears, so he might as well die brave. And yet, by four in the morning, he vigil for bravery wore him out. Just as he was on the verge of dozing off, a new sound rang out in the night. Somewhere nearby, something was wailing a most frightful sound.

He looked out his window, to the left and to the right, but nothing moved in the glow of the lampposts dotting his street. He had almost convinced himself the sound was just a change in the wind when he saw it. Something passed through the light of the lamppost on the corner and it was moving in his direction. His throat tightened, his breath came in gasps, and his heart raced inside his chest.

A flaming beast from Hell lurched up the middle of the street, crying out in the incomprehensible language of the damned. Timmy's adrenal glands were on full flow as the monster came to a stop outside his house and turned to face him. At that moment, Timmy's parents burst through his bedroom door and whisked him away to the safety and security of their bedroom, which faced the back yard. If this creature was going to get little Timmy, it would now have to go through his mommy and daddy first.

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In the morning, little Timmy's parents didn't want to talk about the monster that attacked their house in the night. That didn't stop him from asking questions.

"Did you know that monsters smelled that bad?" he asked his father. "Boy was it stinky!"

"Mm-hmm," his father murmured. He wanted to deflect any and all questions as long as he could until the coroner made it all go away. As long as he thought what he saw was a monster, all the better. But Timmy's father knew that was no monster. He recognized that smell from when he had a mole removed from his shoulder. No, it was no monster, alright. The real monsters were responsible for the charred body laying outside their door. Whoever it was, they couldn't possibly have deserved a death like that.

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SCOTTY 2.0 has been killed by Toecutter's gang.

It is now Day 8. Light 'em up.

#3650

Well I guess that's a kill we can live with. Later Scotty.

Someone's baaaaaad.

Who squashed LoRab?