The Syndicate

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:01 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:52 pm But im the cop

It's 2020, the cops are always wolves and everyone knows it.

More seriously, very few people in the game seem to relate to the idea that mech clearing Mac had any merit at all, which makes your claim seem very far fetched. We're also in this gamestate of "Nutella claimed doc and we chopped her anyway and look how good that turned out." So I think you are probably just stuck as far as claiming not getting you off the blocks.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:11 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:04 amNo

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:42 am @MacDougall I think you are making a horrible mistake letting jpic live here

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:21 am you do very much look like an uwu ted! *pinches cheek*

wow jpeg, i didnt picture you as an aggressive red taurus! that sounds very surprising to me honestly! you have been anything but aggresive. interesting!

perhaps you post this way to hold back your inner explosive demon?

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:25 am "you fucking stupid motherFUCKERS. i am clearly obvious FUCKING TOWN and you all SUCK at MAFIA and ur all TRASH and GARBAGE and u CANT find any WOLVES cuz u SUCK at this GAME. i have single HANDEDLY caught more SCUM than u GUYS have BRAINCELLS COMBINED"

- thought JPIC to himself. however, he knew that his inner demon must not be unleashed. just like Naruto kept the Nine Tailed Fox in check, so had to JPIC. that was his burden. that was his mission.

"im obv town lol" - said JPIC instead, swallowing his anger and pride. His name itself was a reflection of his mission. Like a mantra, he had to keep reminding himself to just play it cool. dont give into your emotions. dont give into your anger

just playing it cool

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:45 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:39 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:37 pm nut has shown that the scum team is capable of thinking up believable fake claims

it wouldn’t surprise if the whole team has had towny sounding fake claims ready to go from the start

so we really should proceed with caution as far as believing unverifiable claims

just yeet scummy ppl

although this stands in direct contrast with jpic claiming cop who peeked mac

so maybe the scum team is not that clever

hmmm...yeah maybe they didn't make them up fast enough and JPIC just panicked.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:26 pm What's poppin playas?

Been busy with work and haven't really read anything recent. Who's town that I can sheep?

Also Mac is bad.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:24 pm

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:34 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:26 pm odd what's your point? Jpic is still probably a wolf

Not probably, jpic is a wolf

How does that go....man I hate it so much when people say it I can't remember how it goe...

Oh.

Yeah.

Is this TMI?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:17 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:11 pm independent of the claim, what do you think of jpic?

I think that is a fit for "JPIC with a strong PR" because it is exactly what he did in UPick as town Jailkeeper with very similar results.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:15 pm @Justplayingitcool if you do survive today you are to check between the below players only. Do not reveal who you are checking. If you survive the night and out a check on anyone who isn't one of these three you are to be YEETED WITHOUT QUESTION.

Tutuu
Master Radishes
SPF

That is because these are names that have genuine potential to be deepwolfing and we have no mech on. We need mech on them. I'd personally rather put PC on here than SPF but it seems more people are scumreading SPF so it's better for thread health if we get mech on SPF than PC. Herm is not on here because I don't think Herm is a risk to endgame if they are mafia. I think we are going to yeet them at some point unless town wins earlier than we need to.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:16 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:15 pm @Justplayingitcool if you do survive today you are to check between the below players only. Do not reveal who you are checking. If you survive the night and out a check on anyone who isn't one of these three you are to be YEETED WITHOUT QUESTION.

Tutuu
Master Radishes
SPF

That is because these are names that have genuine potential to be deepwolfing and we have no mech on. We need mech on them. I'd personally rather put PC on here than SPF but it seems more people are scumreading SPF so it's better for thread health if we get mech on SPF than PC. Herm is not on here because I don't think Herm is a risk to endgame if they are mafia. I think we are going to yeet them at some point unless town wins earlier than we need to.

Just to confirm, am I still to go ahead with this plan?

No one has put forth a better one, so I'd say yes.

I do think it is hilarious that Mac considers your checking him to have been a waste that a real cop would never have done, but now has you performing the good service of checking in the town core.

Herm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:21 pm If Sprityo claimed, I missed it.

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:33 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:29 pm It’s my thought process

As far as I am aware, I am just an alignment cop

JPIC do you have any thoughts on why you can claim but other investigative roles can't?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:29 pm Roleclaiming and infodumping may be legal for some, illegal for others.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:53 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:22 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:16 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:15 pm @Justplayingitcool if you do survive today you are to check between the below players only. Do not reveal who you are checking. If you survive the night and out a check on anyone who isn't one of these three you are to be YEETED WITHOUT QUESTION.

Tutuu
Master Radishes
SPF

That is because these are names that have genuine potential to be deepwolfing and we have no mech on. We need mech on them. I'd personally rather put PC on here than SPF but it seems more people are scumreading SPF so it's better for thread health if we get mech on SPF than PC. Herm is not on here because I don't think Herm is a risk to endgame if they are mafia. I think we are going to yeet them at some point unless town wins earlier than we need to.

Just to confirm, am I still to go ahead with this plan?

No one has put forth a better one, so I'd say yes.

I do think it is hilarious that Mac considers your checking him to have been a waste that a real cop would never have done, but now has you performing the good service of checking in the town core.

Well, people say it is dumb for checking mac, but I think ensuring the purity of the towncore is just as valuable

Mac was 0% to be scum there

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:08 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:06 am Good Morning

Hi. You wanna find some mafia?

Samusamu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:55 pm Also didnt readed if he is only openwolfing

dyachei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:54 pm hally i think juliets is implying she knows what song spirit is?

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:56 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:03 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:39 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:32 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:19 pm Tim you need to understand that from my perspective the towncore is not only pure but has produced one pelt and had an attempt made on one of its members' lives already. I have very little doubt in the alignments of my towncore and so your constant attempts to undermine it (saying Mac had a shitty EoD and Hally could be the Mafia Watcher) is engendering no trust in you at all from me

Yeah, don't care.

If your town core "is pure" then the game is probably a win for me so whether you trust me or not I just don't GAF. What does bother me is that you make these claims about "the pelt is ours" and act like I didn't suspect Nutella as well, because that foesn't fit your pretty picture that people should appreciate the town core. That's gonna lead you to mischops. What bothers me even more is that Oddmerta, for example, has just done nothing in this game other than kiss town core ass, and if he's a wolf he's going the distance because you town core seem to like it so much. That could cost me a win here.

how do u guise not townread the emotion here?

obv i could be wrong, its not rare at all for me to be wrong but like

how is tim obvious scum?

even if he's scum i dont think he's obvious at all?

Because of everything they did to undermine the towncore, and their attempts to convince people to give nutella their song name, and generally doing nothing D1?

im just pointing out he played exactly like this as town in the semifinals. he was very distrustful of the towncore there too even though we got a wolf d1 and another wolf outed through peek d2. so like, he can absolutely be this way as town. you can choose to decide what you want to do with this info, if anything

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:12 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:56 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:03 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:39 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:32 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:19 pm Tim you need to understand that from my perspective the towncore is not only pure but has produced one pelt and had an attempt made on one of its members' lives already. I have very little doubt in the alignments of my towncore and so your constant attempts to undermine it (saying Mac had a shitty EoD and Hally could be the Mafia Watcher) is engendering no trust in you at all from me

Yeah, don't care.

If your town core "is pure" then the game is probably a win for me so whether you trust me or not I just don't GAF. What does bother me is that you make these claims about "the pelt is ours" and act like I didn't suspect Nutella as well, because that foesn't fit your pretty picture that people should appreciate the town core. That's gonna lead you to mischops. What bothers me even more is that Oddmerta, for example, has just done nothing in this game other than kiss town core ass, and if he's a wolf he's going the distance because you town core seem to like it so much. That could cost me a win here.

how do u guise not townread the emotion here?

obv i could be wrong, its not rare at all for me to be wrong but like

how is tim obvious scum?

even if he's scum i dont think he's obvious at all?

Because of everything they did to undermine the towncore, and their attempts to convince people to give nutella their song name, and generally doing nothing D1?

im just pointing out he played exactly like this as town in the semifinals. he was very distrustful of the towncore there too even though we got a wolf d1 and another wolf outed through peek d2. so like, he can absolutely be this way as town. you can choose to decide what you want to do with this info, if anything

For the record it isn't that I distrust the town core. I just don't go along with "okay you are town core" translating to "you have good reads."

Like, I have never been a fan of "Hally is the Dizzy whisperer, just sheep her there since she's towncore." That doesn't mean that I think you are a wolf, it just means I'm gonna look at Dizzy dispassionately for myself. Some people seem to take that as "disrespect" ans undermining the town core. <shrug>

If the towncore is pure and working, as demonstrated by SF3 I will certainly not derail it with my inquiries. But sometimes a towncore isn't pure and working, and when that happens someone like me is plus ev for the town. I don't care what the towncore thinks of me or my play. I don't care if I survive a long time. I just want to win.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:39 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:38 am

dyachei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:54 pm hally i think juliets is implying she knows what song spirit is?

Does this post have any relevance? Like I mean, does this mean anything now that Sprit has flipped?

Such interesting timing given I just pointed out that nutella had a hard scumread on Juliets

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:13 pm

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:43 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:35 pm

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:34 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:31 pm

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:29 pm Are my notes missing anything?

i think that tim's action for last night was "target a player. if they want to do a negative / bad action, roleblock them. otherwise not"

from the way he was talking to ted and telling him "well i hope u have done a good action"

he said the motion detector thing was an intended soft / reaction test

Well he is scum and his claim is bogus so all of that is irrelevant, a townie would of given us the legitness 5 times over by now

no man he's town

u are right that spf is scum tho. i need ur help there buddy. ur on the wrong train!

Why can't he be straightforward with us with his role and why is he moving mountains to get scum off the hook? But it's whatever, we'll find out in due time


staypositivefriend is a really interesting case, just sitting there, chill as a cucumber watching all of this go down. Not a care in the world that I suspect or that you suspect her but I can sense the killing intent. Probably laughing at me in the scum chat while sitting in a secret volcano lair on a big swivel seat and stroking a white cat

i do find the pushes on me legitimately frustrating, to be honest. i'm just doing my best not to engage with them because i know that i'll get too distracted/frustrated

also, i'm not engaging w/them because i can't engage w/people who base their reads on Feelings or gut. tutuu is the only one out of the people who are suspicious of me that's been able to mildly substantiate herself - the rest of the reads are just a vague "spf is deepwolf ://////"

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:25 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:22 pm im just saying, i’ve seen this “spf is a deep wolf” movie before and the suspicion of her this game reminds me a log of the suspicion she got in sf3. it’s just a vague paranoia. i’m not sure what it is about her play that seems to inspire this feeling and i obviously cant say it’s certainly wrong this time. but it’s not like.... productive atp

I just wanted to throw my second vote away from the counterwagons tbh.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:32 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:26 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:23 pm y'all are terrified of an anime girl

she’s clearly evil. look at that face

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:28 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:23 pm y'all are terrified of an anime girl

she’s clearly evil. look at that face

did... did i double post as hally

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:09 pm Here's another maybe crazy thought: I rather like Tim's contrarian pushes. It makes me think hard about how I'm interpreting events. From what I remember of sf3 Hally is right and he did the same kind of thing there. He's creeping up my reads list.

SPF/Hally agree that nut's attempt to frame one of you as wolf helps me see you both as town.

Samusamu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:30 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:20 pm

Samusamu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:14 pm

Spoiler: show

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:50 pm

Samusamu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:38 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:28 pm

Samusamu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:26 pm I have realized that Tony Stark is voting to dya and voting with dya to nanook.

Pretty dead votes.

Also dont like the votes of poison, tim and drwilgy

I dont see tuutuu as deepwolf as mac said, but yes poison.

Tim and drwilgy are totally openwolfing

What do you not like about these votes?

You and dr wilgy probably are with your votes outside the main wagons to have mobility capacity in case spirityo is a town or you are simply trying to initiate independent pushes to lynch outside Tim or spirityo.

Poison may be trying the same situation from a more comfortable position such as deepwolf. Meh.

That makes me think that one of the two wagons is definitely mafia and it's practically very reliable to say that the remaining wagon is too.

I'm going to ask you some questions.

Where would you like my vote to be among the people who are being voted for except for the one you are voting for?

Where would you not like my vote to be among the people being voted for?

Where would you not like my vote to be among the people being voted for (multiple answers apply here)?

And most importantly, where would you say Samu is mafia based on his vote if it is putted in the people being voted for?

Before I get to your questions...which are hard because I really haven't thought about them...I can think of a very good reason why I might be inclined to prefer the chop being outside of me and Sprityo...particularly if it isn't Sprityo. I assume you can guess what that reason is. That's why I find your "not liking" where my second vote is to be a bit weird.

Anyway...

"Where would you like my vote to be among the people who are being voted for except for the one you are voting for?"

Since "the people being voted for are me and Sprityo if you don't wanna vote Sprityo with me I'd rather you not vote at all, vote a couple vanity wagons, vote yourself, vote Sloonei...whatever.

"Where would you not like my vote to be among the people being voted for?"

Tough one. I'll go with: among the people being voted for I'd rather your vote was not on me.

"Where would you not like my vote to be among the people being voted for (multiple answers apply here)?"

I think JPIC should self resolve so chopping him is a waste of town KP before he does, so don't vote there.

"And most importantly, where would you say Samu is mafia based on his vote if it is putted in the people being voted for? "

This may be an unfortunate answer, but I am unlikely to day you are mafia based on where you put your votes under the circumstances. I think one should be on Sprityo, and the other should be parked somewhere reasonably harmless, but I'm not gonna say that not agreeing on that would make you a wolf.

I was doing a bad case cause i dont know the two.votes condition. But i am.thankfull thar i ask you that questions cause a bad reason.

Sometimes bad reasons carry to.good things.

I dont like the first inconclusive answer.

Second is a easy wifom answer.

I can see in third your thought that is similar to.mac. but no totally agree with that but it is more personal than something thar would define a role. Some credit.

Fourth and the bait, What do you think, or rather, what readings do you have of the players who have their vote somewhere harmless?

This is difficult to sort, because of Sloonei saying that the second vote HAS TO BE cast. For me, I really think Sprityo is the best chop, so I am inclined to put my second vote somewhere harmless. For people who think "well, I would happily chop Sprityo or Tim" it would seem obvious to put their two votes on the two of us. For people who think "well, one of the people visiting Mac was a wolf and I can't decide between Sprit and Nanook" it would make sense for them to just vote both and let others decide.

I think people with two votes they have to cast parking BOTH of them out in the vanity wagon wilderness would be pretty suspect.

It's impossible to me to not have a poe or a list of 2-3 scums to lynch this day, without the mac's visitors.

Sorry but i cant follow that thought of yours, sounds scummy to me.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:44 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:36 pm Tim, honestly, there are around 6 people at EoD that voted for you when doubt on nutella was being cast.

The fact that you're going at the same person instead of looking at the others is very off-putting. If you're town, your perspective means a lot if you can tunnel the voters on you.

It's so easy that the fact you're not doing it is concerning.

Understandable. The thing is that I was in fact a reasonable choice to vote. I'm not after Oddmerta just for voting me, or even for tunneling me. I'm after him because it is all that he does, other than grinding up the consensus reads of the towncore and spoon feeding it back to them. He sussed you a bit...until the towncore sort of bought you as town. He is all in on killing JPIC. He is all in on killing me, though he might be backing off that now that I am not the high priority town core target that I was. He sheeped in on Nutella. He fluffs away at SPF once in a while, but only backing Tutuu who is generally considered town core.

Point me to a single original thought this guy has had.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:21 pm sprit will cc jpic’s claim and say he peeked mac red

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:37 pm [VOTE: sprityo ] aubergine
[VOTE: odd] aubergine

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:41 pm The mafia role cop's song name is Nude. I do not know who they are.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:58 pm okay I forgot mafia existed and now day ends soon someone please fill me in on everything

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:11 am Stop antagonising JPIC though. This is just winmore if you're town. Let him do his thing.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:11 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:10 am

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:41 pm The mafia role cop's song name is Nude. I do not know who they are.

Does mafia rolecop fit with nude? Seems like an odd combo

Come on dude lol

Herm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:07 pm A lot of people arguing Watcher is a strong role.

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:12 pm would post cap role at all be town?