The Syndicate

Alright I guess todays winner is bea

Who were you asking if you missed something?

Devin the Omniscient wrote:Did I miss something?

I'm voting for someone who didn't vote bull dogs and who I think is bad.

It will probably be for Bea but I'll wait a bit yet.

DFaraday wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Did that lynch end early or am I getting my times mixed up?

I posted about one minute after the poll ended. I did think it was odd that you said who you thought were suspicious, then didn't vote.

Yeah.. I got the end time confused with the Cards Against Humanity poll... Sorry

Did that lynch end early or am I getting my times mixed up?

S~V~S wrote:Arrgh, this is a totally different problem than i expected to have, Epi

Oh, and A Person is back.

I am in overthinking hell right now

I would prefer that a coherent case be made. If anything, I might think if she was bad that she was on the other team, becasue I saw a few Summer/MP posts that had some suspicion in them. I also thought that perhaps Bea might have been pushing away from a DP vote, and I was thinking based on when he posted and did not post that he was the bad insanifier.

Linki@ Sorsha, what are your thoughts on the other people with votes, and A Person & DP?

A Person- no clue how to handle her or her play style, same with vomps and wog
DP & Devin- looks like some evidence for them being bad so I could go with them.
Dex- can't see him being a baddie and acting like this, it would be bad if he had teammates who were counting on him.
bass- seems ok to me

so I'd go for DP, Devin or bea for the vote

I wouldnt be suprised if bea had a team, just basing this off of the speed with which she caught up with the game and seemed to "fit in" so quickly.

Looks like I missed a lot of excitement, good job on the Indy role though.

Devin the Omniscient wrote:But I AM a Hulkamaniac...

Sorsha wrote:Great... TH is dead.... Now who's gonna talk to Epi?
Bass- Devon isn't dead....

Ture on both counts! The TH point, I guess, means less reading

And <High Five> for surviving the NKs with me, Sorsha!
I'm confused about both baddie teams getting to NK at the same time, though... Was this a mistake, DF???

And finally, TH, Lou, and Lizzy

Why high five me? Weirdo.

Great... TH is dead.... Now who's gonna talk to Epi?

And fuck you Vince- you 'roid raging rapist.

Bass- Devon isn't dead....

Turnip Head wrote:Wow you guys are annoying to try and talk to. I'm done trying for today. Nobody else is talking (seriously, where are all the civvies?!?) and the people I try to talk to won't engage in any meaningful conversation with me. I've brought up plenty of points, asked plenty of questions, but they only get answered with snide remarks and crypticness. Placing my vote on BWT now.

Don't despair my edible headed friend!! I stand with you and your BWT vote.

Mongoose wrote:I can think of some other reasons those kids got removed from the poll.

Do share.....

Epignosis wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Why?

I don't think all the survivals (and now the silencing and poll removal on top of it) can be civvie.

Those removed from the poll are also silenced and may not vote. This tells me that it is the doing of Stone Cold Steve Austin. This makes me wonder what exactly he profits from removing the individual most suspected for the next Day.

If someone is just silenced, I'm sure it won't show up in the thread- they'll just get a PM saying, "You've been silenced."

Yes, this is the work of Stone Cold Steve Austin.

His role just says poll removal from what I see. Nothing about silencing.

Epignosis wrote:Why?

I don't think all the survivals (and now the silencing and poll removal on top of it) can be civvie.

Sorsha wrote:Weeeelll... I have a feeling this isn't going to turn out good

If I could, I think I would change my vote to Devin

I rescind this statement. I'll likely vote CBK again.

Sorsha wrote:Weeeelll... I have a feeling this isn't going to turn out good

If I could, I think I would change my vote to Devin

I rescind this statement. I'll likely vote CBK again.

Weeeelll... I have a feeling this isn't going to turn out good

If I could, I think I would change my vote to Devin

I was really looking forward to hearing more from daisy about TH. I wasn't sure about either of them, still not but voting CBK.

RIP guys.

How does Kurt Angle have a kill?

Turnip Head wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Sorry Hedgie

I was behind in my reading and came across the case for hedge, thought it was sound, saw players were voting for her and did the same.

Wow Sorsha. I was definitely assuming you had been silenced. You said you came across the case on Hedge and thought it was sound. Can you point me to the specific posts you saw, and which parts of that post you agreed with? This is an odd vote from you. I don't normally think of you as someone who bandwagon votes, especially if you hadn't even read the thread (except, apparently, the HedgeCase).

Yeah, my head isn't fully in this game for multiple reasons.

Early in his case on hedge Epi posted some roles - 2 baddie, one civvie that, odds-wise, leaned baddie for her. After that there were more points brought up seeming to point furthur to her being baddie.

Sorry Hedgie

I was behind in my reading and came across the case for hedge, thought it was sound, saw players were voting for her and did the same.

Spacedaisy wrote:Just watching all this play out, my gut was positively screaming that these guys were on a team together. I will likely vote TH tomorrow I think.

Also, I think it is funny you all thought I had info. I did not have info. I voted MP for exactly the reasons I said I did. If my post seemed short and to the point it was because I was tired and too lazy to go find my iPad so I posted from my smart tv, which took forever for those just short little posts.

Anyway, that is my two cents.

I wasn't really thinking you had info but that you were on the same team.

Your thoughts on TH are good though, something else to ponder.

Epignosis wrote:
Please. I believe I did all this in fewer than four posts, and fewer than four lines each.

Good job

(we need a regular pat on the back or a thumbs up smilie here)

Epignosis wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sorsha wrote:From MPs dead post it makes me think that we'd have a hard time finding his teammates. Id have to say, based mostly on gut, that I would look to daisy first. She did vote for him, andfirst, but it was at a time that it didnt really seem like the thread would have gone in his direction for the vote. Plus her vote post for him just didnt sit right with me.

I think that's what he wants you to think.

Not sure how I feel about you this game so discouraging me from thinking that is probably only going to make me think it more strongly.

Think what you will think. Thinking that my thinking will only thunk your thinking is thinking that will thunk the thinking of thinking thinkers.

You're going MP on us here....


I actually did understand that though...

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sorsha wrote:From MPs dead post it makes me think that we'd have a hard time finding his teammates. Id have to say, based mostly on gut, that I would look to daisy first. She did vote for him, andfirst, but it was at a time that it didnt really seem like the thread would have gone in his direction for the vote. Plus her vote post for him just didnt sit right with me.

I think that's what he wants you to think.

Not sure how I feel about you this game so discouraging me from thinking that is probably only going to make me think it more strongly.

WHAT IF THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS YOU TO THINK?!?!

Epignosis wrote:

Sorsha wrote:From MPs dead post it makes me think that we'd have a hard time finding his teammates. Id have to say, based mostly on gut, that I would look to daisy first. She did vote for him, andfirst, but it was at a time that it didnt really seem like the thread would have gone in his direction for the vote. Plus her vote post for him just didnt sit right with me.

I think that's what he wants you to think.

Not sure how I feel about you this game so discouraging me from thinking that is probably only going to make me think it more strongly.

From MPs dead post it makes me think that we'd have a hard time finding his teammates. Id have to say, based mostly on gut, that I would look to daisy first. She did vote for him, andfirst, but it was at a time that it didnt really seem like the thread would have gone in his direction for the vote. Plus her vote post for him just didnt sit right with me.

Ok I see..

kneel4justice wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

kneel4justice wrote:DUDE, TH!!!! GOOD CALL!

What did TH do?

Two nights? That does suck

Nevermind. My apologies, I only read the role. Whoops......

I understand that.. you thought someone other than MP died.... but what does TH have to do with it?

kneel4justice wrote:DUDE, TH!!!! GOOD CALL!

What did TH do?

Two nights? That does suck

Well.... guess I'll have to find someone else to vote for after all

RIH Shane, see ya MP :P

As much as I can agree that WOG should go because of non-participation. I think you are scumscumscum MP... you could pretty easily swug enough of those votes to me or another of the vote getters but you didn't. Why???? Because no one really cares if WOG turns up civvie or not and me or one of the other players coming up civvie and looking like a save of you would be even worse for you.

I'll be voting for you again tomorrow. You can keep posting your wall of texts to confuse everyone as to what you are really thinking but I am going to keep voting for you until one of us is dead.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Does anyone one else feel like MP is a baddie just throwing stuff around seeing if anyone will bite on it? The reason I think this is because almost everyone he has said something about he goes on to say something else that gives him an out if he is wrong.

Absolutely. It's why I called him flip floppy.

And I really don't think daisys vote was a throw away either. If it's throwaway why not vote for yourself?

I'm voting MP

@MP- actually it's not just the posts about me you are being flip floppy about. It's pretty much the majority of the players you are doing it for. It just reads to me like you're waiting for someone to make a case on anyone so you can jump on it and say "oh yeah- I'm suspicious if them too! Look at this big long post I made about them already!!!"

Ok here is who I am looking at the closest here.

MP- Your original post about how my "I'm civve" post was strange, or wasn't strange. It's kinda hard to tell what you think based on the post because it can go either way.

MovingPictures07 wrote:For the record, K4J, I agree with you regarding Sorsha's post; it seemed unnecessary to me, as if she's trying too hard. BUT I have heard of games where those types of statements were "checkable", so maybe it's possible. Seems rarer to me though and kind of pointless, but I suppose her post could be completely legit. I don't THINK I've ever played one where statements that blatant were checkable by a lie detector role though.

Consequently, I'm not sure her post really means anything at all. I don't think it really tells me anything, especially this early in the game. But, out of curiosity, do others agree here with my assessment and was anyone else wildly pinged by that statement?

When I first read it I thought you agreed that I was suspicious. Then someone called you on it and you backed off saying you meant that I wasn't suspicious for it.
I have played quite a few games with you and can not remember you brining me up like this or agreeing with someone on something like this about me ever. Its possible that you HAVE but it has been so infrequent that I can't think of a time it has ever happened. Your subsequent posts about me have had the same flip floppiness. From the post above to now I feel like you are just waiting for someone to solidly say "I am voting for Sorsha" so that you can be like "Yeah, me too."


SVS- I am 50/50 with you right now. The following posts are something I did not expect from you. On one hand, if you are bad, I think you'd just leave me out to hang. If you are civvie I don't see you sticking your neck out for, what some might consider, a defense.

S~V~S wrote:I will say that Sorsha tends to play a blendy early game whether civ or bad, so of the two, I would lean more towards DP. When he is civ and has no idea whats going on, he will post a vote for someone with no votes before latching onto a bandwagon, especially if it is already decided.

I have to reread from when i went to work ( Christmas party was awesome, got lots of fun stuff from bosses & coworkers and an awesome lunch of linguini with clam sauce from my favorite italian place, so I am happy and ready to mafia )

S~V~S wrote:"Block" was the wrong word, I meant voting together as a group~

I have played Mafia with Sorsha a long time. At the time we played across 4 sites, LP, RM, TP, & HV, we both played all of those sites. Sorsha does not do scummy things in the thread when she is bad in general. She is a very careful player. She starts out slow most games and blossoms later on, good or bad. I think her posts recently seemed like frustration at some thread shenanigans.

k4j- You find me suspicious for various reasons my Vomps vote, my day one "I am a civvie" comment and general laying low quiet behavior but at the simplest explaination from me you say "ok." Like, thats it? All I have to say is "This is how I always am" and its all good? You are another like MP who keeps tossing my name around (from day 1... or day zero even) but aren't really committing to it. Like keeping me on the back burner to bring up as soon as someone gets the Sorsha ball rolling at some point.

And this first following post shows more of MP just keeping is spoon in the pot.

kneel4justice wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

kneel4justice wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Voted Vomps. He voted himself too so I am assuming he wants to be lynched.

This is such an easy vote. You do not have to do any kind of scumhunting at all to vote for Vomps. At least TH provided a bit more reasoning than you did.
If you were truly assuming he wanted to be lynched, which I don't think you are (I think you're just trying to show your disapproval for his gameplay), then you'd consider the fact that scum do not want to be lynched.

Agreed here.

I'm torn because I understand the metagaming reasons to vote Vomps out (if you're not being a helpful civvie, why even play?), BUT, wrathofgod still has not even posted once and no one is even talking about her. Why not vote there either? And then add in the reasons you state above; it just removes all accountability.

Vomps is just as statistically likely to be baddie as anyone else playing, but I just get the feeling he hasn't really invested himself (yet) in this game, so he's making himself an easy target. Whether he's doing it to fuck with all of us because he's baddie or whether he's just doing it because he's a lost civvie who loves being zany, I do not know, and it's always so hard to tell with him. I feel he is being especially more elusive this game for some reason, but maybe it's because he's playing two games at once and there's a bunch of people he doesn't know. Now that I think about it, I do notice he tends to come out of his shell and play a bit more traditionally when he knows the players quite well and when it's a smaller group, but... even then, there's sometimes not at all a method to his madness.

Anyway, rambling done. What are you thinking, K4J; where's your vote going for sure, do you know?

I really want to vote S~V~S... honestly, she's still my #1. But I really hate spread out votes because they open votes up to baddie manipulation and we already have a spread vote here AND I like discussing out suspicions with others to see what they are thinking AND I am just now beginning to consider I may be wrong, so... you going to vote S~V~S or someone else?

I think I still will, but I'm trying to consider all of the options. There are a few others that have acted in ways that have proven very possibly worthy of votes, IMO (Russ comes to mind).

I think that I want to vote for Russ. I'm nervous, I like to be a lot more sure but obviously that is not going to happen this game since I do not know the majority of players. I am not sure how people operate and think on the sidelines here, so I can't really dig as deep as I want to with my suspicion. If that makes any sense...probably not.

Sorsha's post makes me think she might be bad, but I don't think it's enough to vote for her.
SVS is someone I am contemplating but her Lie Detector stuff does make sense. I really just do not know because I wasn't paying a lot of attention to Mongoose because I didn't see anything suspicious jumping out at me while others were just going on and on, I was confused and focused elsewhere. So I have no idea if she really did what SVS is saying.

kneel4justice wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

kneel4justice wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Voted Vomps. He voted himself too so I am assuming he wants to be lynched.

This is such an easy vote. You do not have to do any kind of scumhunting at all to vote for Vomps. At least TH provided a bit more reasoning than you did.
If you were truly assuming he wanted to be lynched, which I don't think you are (I think you're just trying to show your disapproval for his gameplay), then you'd consider the fact that scum do not want to be lynched.

So what... its my vote to do with what I want.

{Quote from MP removed because of the 5 embedded quota}

I have a few that I am keeping an eye on, nothing that I feel like bringing up at this point though.

I am a player that sites back and watches for a while. Its how I have always been and its probably how I wil always be, if you don't like it then vote for me. I don't really care.

And if you explained that, then I would have been more understanding. I have no idea how you play because I have never played with you before. I wasn't telling you how to play, I was just expressing my opinion on your vote.

So I'd say for now MP and k4j are my 1 and 2. SVS I am just watching, I think she can read my civvie game pretty well, she has in the past anyway, so I think after another day or two she will be able to see my civviness.... and if not then I think she'd be more of a concern.

I don't know when I'll be able to have time to go over more of my smaller suspicions, with the holiday and all, but these were the easiest for me to address first.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

kneel4justice wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Voted Vomps. He voted himself too so I am assuming he wants to be lynched.

This is such an easy vote. You do not have to do any kind of scumhunting at all to vote for Vomps. At least TH provided a bit more reasoning than you did.
If you were truly assuming he wanted to be lynched, which I don't think you are (I think you're just trying to show your disapproval for his gameplay), then you'd consider the fact that scum do not want to be lynched.

So what... its my vote to do with what I want.

So do you think Vomps is bad or not?

And do you have thoughts on anyone else, one way or the other, out of curiosity?

I have a few that I am keeping an eye on, nothing that I feel like bringing up at this point though.

I am a player that sites back and watches for a while. Its how I have always been and its probably how I wil always be, if you don't like it then vote for me. I don't really care.

kneel4justice wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Voted Vomps. He voted himself too so I am assuming he wants to be lynched.

This is such an easy vote. You do not have to do any kind of scumhunting at all to vote for Vomps. At least TH provided a bit more reasoning than you did.
If you were truly assuming he wanted to be lynched, which I don't think you are (I think you're just trying to show your disapproval for his gameplay), then you'd consider the fact that scum do not want to be lynched.

So what... its my vote to do with what I want.

Voted Vomps. He voted himself too so I am assuming he wants to be lynched.

Bullzeye wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Has CBK or WoG posted anything this game or have I just missed it ?

From the Who Posted list CBK has posted 6 times but WoG hasn't at all.


I might actually go with a Sorsha vote today. I think she was really blendy on day 2, literally never mentioned anything to do with being suspicious of Mongoose and took no part in the discussion on her then showed up to tack a vote on when the lynch was already pretty much decided. DP is very similar. I could see a vote for either of those two, I think they're both being deliberately blendy, following the crowd to avoid gaining attention.

Do it then.. I really just wanted the cluster fuck of what went on to be over. It was a huge distraction, frustrating and not even worth putting my 2 cents in on.

I'm probably voting for vomps today, for voting for himself.

RIP Mongoose you'll be in my heart, now and forever more

Voted mongoose..

FZ. wrote:I looked at the roles, and I was under the impression that the civ that could do that to K4J could only do it on night 3. Deflect on night 1, silence on night 2, and make someone crazy on night 3. And then all over again. Is that not what the role implies?
If it does, than that would imply it was a baddie who did this, and then, either K4J was very intuitive in his suspicions, and the baddies wanted to shut him up, but it just makes people trust him more, so why? Or K4J is a baddie and his team decided to do it to make him look like a civ. Or, it's one of the Ksiters that thought it would be funny to shut him up. Another option I see is someone wanting to frame one of the Ksiters.....or none of the above.

I'm sorry, I'm having a really hard time keeping up with two games, and no break like we're used to at nights. This is a major overload.

I'm not going to be here for the next 30+ hours, so I'm going to vote now. I'm going with Sorsha, because her game is pure fluff and OT, and I've seen absolutely nothing from her so far. Sorry I'm not coming up with anything more than that, but I can't keep up.

Yeah.... I'm a slow bloomer.

Dom wrote:I think I'll probably vote Epig.

Can you please eloborate?

kneel4justice wrote:Interesting. A unshared of people Tribunal of Judgment Maligna.

*cough*original Tribunal of Judgement member*cough*

Summer wrote:EBWOP

Guru... Have you been drinking and playing Mafia again???? You know that never ends well!!! (Btw, whoever did this to him... You probably just jumped to the top of his sh*t list!! )

On a serious note, I saw people talking about being cursed or whatever? Are his posts even going to be readable??

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You can usualy get the general jist (gist?) of the response if you do read through the response. There are some moments of clarity in the gibberish.


Nice post on bullz, Epi.

Turnip Head wrote:If all the discussion today had been about Phil Collins and not the game that we're playing, then I would understand randomizing, but... oh wait...

I don't really like random voting either but

This game seemed to have quite a bit more than other games I have played lately.

Cool! We get to do this all over again tomorrow!

Well I guess I won't be breaking any tie if I don't make it back in time.. Guess I'll update my time zone then....

To break the tie.... Or to not break the tie...

What about getting it tied between Mongoose and Epi and letting the flip of the coin decide?